DON'T upgrade your old MacBook's RAM.
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- čas přidán 29. 09. 2023
- Was wondering whether my 2012 MacBook Pro really needed the RAM.
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Adding RAM will not increase processor speed, but it will be very useful when we are multitasking. When RAM runs out of space it will take up space from the hard disk, which is what causes the computer to become slow.
Indeed. More ram NEVER improves CPU-speed, but it will allow to be more tasks to remain in memory (less virtualisation on disk = faster)
Thanks for that, answered a question I was pondering recently.
Tomb Raider the ever present MacOS gaming benchmark lol
True that
Thank you! Great video!
I have a 13” mid-2012, where I have gone all out. 16GB 1600Mhz ram, swapped the disk tray for 2x total SSDs, new battery, cleaned cooler and paste, and considering I keep filling the ram when surfing while doing other random things, I don’t think it is bad to have as much. It genuinely helps the 13”. Then again, I’ve had it like this for years, so I’m happy with what I made back then, because it still runs fine today.
Nice work! Yeah it does depend on the use case you have for the machine. My video just applies to *most* cases I think. If you have 16gb often it will cache in that instead of the SSD just because it’s there.
@@montaguebarnabasltd oh yeah, most definitely. I’m a heavy user, so it is highly needed in my case, but for most users I would go with the option that is most cost effective at any given time.
in my case, my 13" 4GB 2012 MBP had one of the ram cards fail.. so was processing on 2GB, miserably. Glad to make the upgrade. Macbook was free, big ssd and new ram were only about $60USD
Glad you got your setup sorted. Miss my 2012 already lol
Yeah you see the most use of having more ram when using web browsers. I can testify to seeing that difference in my 2011 mac minis. One with 8 gigs and one with 16 gigs. And you can really feel the difference if you do OCLP OS upgrades. 4gigs feels sluggish, 8 runs fine, 16 feels smooth. One of those you have to sit down and experience it yourself things. I have never really seen a benefit in gaming, but the 2011s cant really run that much in the way of games.
Definitely true. I suppose BrowserBench might have been a good idea.
I think that you would see a bigger gain going from 4gb to 8gb. A lot of 2012 MacBooks shipped with 4gb. At some point you’re going to be getting diminishing returns with larger ram and I think the 8 to 16 being only 10% demonstrates that.
Definitely agree. I could’ve added a section of the video dedicated to that, but only had 1x4gb sticks, so thought it wouldn’t be the fairest comparison.
It depends on what type of MacBook that you are using..some uses MacBook that is soldered well on their Macs with how many rams included in it and some are based from the size of display, which is how its run like mostly the 15" Macs runs on the 8GB ram while the 13" runs max on the 16GB while some older had 4GB on MacBook Air versions and still gets upgraded with latest updates while the 12" or below only gets 2GB of ram which limities the performance like the 2010/2011 models.
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Are you sure a macbook pro 13" from let's say 2012 would run better with 16gb rather than 8gb?
@@elpiotre8853 It is..running at 16GB max are good.
When I open youtube tabs, my Cpu speed drop down to 50 and so for a few seconds (5-10). The I run the vídeo and everything back to normal. More ram should resolve this issue? When I have to use youtube and do multitasking, it very slow down my mac.
Honestly it might be that your video card is working on the video. If you have an old 13/11inch Mac the GPU will be very weak. Could be worth trying the ram upgrade but I can’t promise it’ll be a great deal of help.
@@montaguebarnabasltd Thanks. It's an early 2015 macbook pro. I just found a store who can sold me a 16gb ram memory for about 200e. Honestly, it works fine, i don't want to buy another mac.
@@D4aniB 2015 MacBook Pros don’t have replaceable memory…
@@montaguebarnabasltd yes, i know, but you can solder it, and i found a store who can do that.
@@D4aniB wow. That’s pretty impressive. I have to say though, 200 Euros is the price of a cheap MacBook these days. Maybe consider just buying M1?
I got the 8gb on my 13in 2011 and that should be good enough and cinbench on Mac OS montray and it crashed I am not to worry
Absolutely enough. 2011 macs didn’t have the most powerful CPUs though. Dual core i5s are a bit of an old breed, really.
@@montaguebarnabasltd ya u notice that pice of garbage dual core but I do only basic tasks so it fine but ya dual core macs suck
@@weelebaseknowles4410 very true. Thankfully they’re all but phased out
@@montaguebarnabasltd never buy a 15in are 17in 2011 because of the failure of graphics but get a 2012 the best 15in of the unbodys
@@weelebaseknowles4410 absolutely agree. Made lots of videos on the 2012 15” lol
Problem im having is buying used 16gb memory is cheaper than buying 8gb memory, it makes no sense lol.
Bit of an odd one…
you sir, you saved me $40. thank you.
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bench mark programs are not reality in over 99% of cases macs i n the real world do benifit from SSD and Ram bench mark programs are more of a base line and a bit of a joke really. how ever more ram does help as you your self say improved test results tho minor in the real world its a huge difference, to many people think that prgrams like geek bench and cinebench are law and show real perofrmace when itfact they dont,. also more ram means less to no chance of swap which for HDD drives is ok as htey can handel is but SSD drives Burn out faster with having swap at them which happens alot with only 8 gigs of ram and gamming suffers as well with less ram to ., so i cant say i agree with your over all opinion on this i believe in fact that your video has shown more of what you dont seem to know or understand here. if you were to do real world testing you would find nothing but benifits to more ram being better ..
Hey, thanks for the comment.
Firstly, I and many others use benchmarking tools as a way of simulating usage of a computer in a reliable, replicable way. Although I’d love to show myself opening lots of different chrome tabs, or editing a project/timeline in Photoshop or FCP, because there would be some ostensible change, doing so makes it hard to quantify change. Using benchmarking tools is easy to laugh at, but so is ‘real world testing’, which in reality has so many variables at play it’s hard to test reliably, as I explained.
Secondly - the reason I chose benchmarking to write this video on.
My main point in the video is this: Buy another set of ram if it’s gonna help you with a few tasks every day, but most actual improvements come about from having a better CPU and GPU which aren’t upgradeable. I’ve edited on machines with 8 to 48GB RAM, and the difference between them is small compared to a 4-5 generational leap in Intel i7, for example.
Edit: interesting point about swap files on SSDs. That's been blown out of proportion online in the last few years, I would say. < reddit.com/r/mac/s/E0g2Ra1ryu > has a good discussion about this, which illustrates just how little most need to worry about that sort of thing.
I don’t normally reply in such scope, but thought it was worth making my ideas behind the video clearer for anyone who has questions!