Don’t WASTE your money on these things for Breville (Sage) Dual Boiler
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- čas přidán 17. 06. 2024
- Whether you just got a Breville Dual Boiler 920XL, about to get one, have had one for a while, this video will be helpful for you. Do you agree or disagree?
(I feel like a good drinking game is, drink every time I say: Breville Dual Boiler. If you try it, let me know how that goes :p)
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00:00 start
00:29 intro
00:40 new system
01:03 3 years ago
03:27 mods & design
07:55 pieces to replace
12:02 pieces to keep
12:56 things to buy
15:30 optional items
16:50 other accessories
17:07 my future upgrades
17:59 future maintenance
18:50 am I changing machines?
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Anything from the video you learned and want to do or buy? What are your must haves?
Just bought a la pavoni manual lever machine. Looking forward to your nerdy review of it
unless a company will gift me one, my Patreon definitely is not going to generate enough revenue for me to review things :\ I'm not one of them big coffee CZcamsrs (at the moment)@@amarfii785
@@GadgetsGearCoffee
See above
Thank you. I really appreciated all the work you put into this video. You're awesome.
You’re awesome. I love your vids keep em’ coming!
thank you for this video. now I have no doubts on buying this! thank YOU!
Thank you Jess!! I’m going with the larger one I think. Appreciate you. Merry Christmas!
You're welcome :) You as well! Happy holidays!
Very nicely presented - well done.
Loving your videos ! Thank you
I just found your channel and love your content. And, a fellow Canadian, I love the references to Canadian dollars.
Glad that's helping! I find it annoying other Canadian creators stop putting the cad, even though most of my viewers are American, I don't want to forget my fellow Canadians! It's extra work but worth it :)
New to this channel! There is a bewildering array of expensive accessories out there and few are useful to the home barista if they have a Breville espresso maker. Thanks for making sense of all this! And thanks for the video! Subbed!
Glad I can help! You have a lot of videos you can catch up on then on my channel 😉
@@GadgetsGearCoffee Thank you!
there definitely are a lot and if you watch my first all espresso gear video budget edition, a few of those I would not suggest to anyone anymore as I learned more along my own journey so I wish to save others that pain (I update the descriptions as I go). That's what I aim to do with my reviews is help others with their decisions and making sense of it all
The WDT tool is a must have for me as I grind into a cup. Putting the coffee into the portafilter sometimes leaves voids that a leveling tool will not fill, resulting in uneven puck extraction if not doing WDT.
Great video. the BDB is on my list and regularly goes on sale for $1800 cdn. on the case, it can be the most expensive single part. having a limited number of cases saves the mfg a lot of money. hopefully it also saves the customer money too.
I remember watching years ago when you got the bdb and I was following along. Everything seemed so interesting… measuring everything, steaming, all the gear etc. I wasn’t able to get a bdb because of space restrictions so instead I got the bambino plus. That one has auto milk steaming and it’s been great. I recently caved and got a super auto and to be brutally honest I can’t taste a difference lol. Super auto was $1400 but it’s simple. Use the touchpad and walk away. My bambino and grinder is in a closet somewhere waiting to goto a landfill or something in a few years. It’s been fun watching your routines tho! Keep up the good work 😝
I have a hard time believing the bambino can't produce better coffee than the super auto but so many factors come into play. Grinder, skillset, coffee you drink, beans. Superauto convenience is amazing though. I definitely did taste a difference which is why I switched after 2 weeks of owning a Superauto and this was before knowing how to make espresso, I just couldn't push the flavor out. Do sell your old gear though, don't throw it out
@@GadgetsGearCoffee it might not come from the machine, it could be the person, it takes time and training to be able to tell the difference between a cup and another, i think that's why many people (including myself I admit) would be happy with a mid tier machine that keeps us happy with a nice routine and a tasty mid tier cup.
Excellent video. I agree with you that an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure, and given that you obviously have the skillset to do so, replace your o-rings. Do not wait for them to leak and cause further damage. I just replaced the leaky o-rings on a friends Oracle Touch. I'll do my Oracle Touch every year or two.
Got a brand you recommend that is foodsafe?
Nice video fun and informative, nicely done
My best upgrade outside of my machine and grinder is a Duomo WDT tool. It’s pricey, I know, but my puck prep is so much better, and with my new Force tamper things are really consistent. I have a new Weber Unibasket but I still don’t have my espresso tasting as good as it was with my VST basket. I’m going to keep trying but I might go back to the VST. I have found Eight Ounce Coffee to be a good place to buy coffee stuff in Canada besides the usual WLL and IDC.
Yes, I recall that Gaggia Cadorna Plus vid. I bought one because of your vid and I’ve used it for a couple of years.
It’s getting replaced today with a Breville Barista Touch Impress (since my wife needs a quick path to her one oak milk flat white a day).
Cheers HB
Glad my videos helped :)! This video (& my other coffee ones) probably applies to the Breville Barista Touch as well, just with a different size portafilter. How exciting, it's going to open up a whole different world! Though with an integrated grinder, you may have a more difficult time getting the best of best shots for lighter roasts if you drink that
I love gadgets and technology, but I couldn't care less about coffee. Yet, I find myself watching your videos and enjoying them. Keep up the good work, aye 👌🏽
That's such a great compliment :) if it's interesting and entertaining either way then why not? and you get some knowledge :) just watch 6 months from now you go actually... I'm into coffee now haha
@GadgetsGearCoffee Haha, that wouldn't surprise me one bit 😉
Thank you soooo much for letting me know you can do vinyl wraps for the BDB. I wanted black but they don’t sell it here in Aus, only brushed stainless steel. Wrapping gives me options
I'm surprised they don't sell the black in Australia as sage is from aus
The 1st most important tool is a good grinder. Mine is a Turin SD40, about $200. I modified it with a 3D printed adapter to be nearly stepless.
The 2nd most important tool is a WDT.
The 3rd most important tool is a bottomless portafilter. Use it to check and improve your extraction.
Hi Jess. Thanks for the video. Nice to see how many gadgets one accumulates in the course of time. Which machine would you go for if you would be upgrading today?
I haven't been keeping up as much with the machines but the Lelit Bianca was on my list for a while because of the flow control. I mean an actual Slayer would.. slay lol For looks alone though, Linea probably the Micra. Though I've read it's consistent, I just want that flow control!
Congratulations on your Force Tamper!
Great video very informative thinking to buy dual boiler upgrading from Delonghi dedica what you think should I buy it or go for bit more expensive ones like Lelit Bianca v3 or ECM heat exchanger?
if you have the budget for it, I don't think you'd regret the Lelit! That's what I'd do
HI! Thank you very much for all the work is done on the channel to help us and to teach us. I have bought my Breville Dual Boiler just a few days later. It is used but working good. I did all the testings, cleaned it and so on.
But I have a question. I just ordered the bottomless portafilter, but I wonder how to setup it? I have a stock things, there are 4 baskets, 2 of them are with 1 wall and 2 of them are with 2. The basket that you use is a 1 wall basket. so It has a lot of holes. When I use such kind of basket the pressure is at 3 - maximum. and I need to do prep on 2atm and release the manual button and then I need my pressure comming to 7-9 atm. and all this things need to happen in 25 seconds from start (I'f I'm correct) and in this time I have to see the 18*2 = 36grams / ml of espresso in my cup.
BUT. I have only 3 atm max on the 1 wall / 2 shot basket. What I'm doing wrong?
IF I use the 2 wall / 2 shot basket - than all fine, It is jumping to 7atm. but how do you got that pressure?
Single walled, bigger basket is what I use (double sized basket). If your pressure is low it's the grind size, likely go finer, work on your tamping technique or go for one of the tempers I reviewed which is self leveling. Your dose is ok if it's darker roast. If lighter, you may need to increase 19-20g
@@GadgetsGearCoffee thank you for the answer. correct me if I'm wrong, I need to tamp so hard to gain the resistance the same as the double wall basket, then I will get my 7-9 bar pressure. It might be very solid)) I will get my tools in a week. thanks one more time!
I would love to get a Dual Boiler, I have a BE Pro and Have been trying different coffee roasters around U.S. and in Washington State where I live and Have found a list of around 130 roasters and I know there are more we have 5 or 6 Roaters in Olympia, WA where I live been having fun and even mix some to see what kind of flavor, Have found some coffee's that work better for me in the drip maker SQ1 Candy Bar makes good espresso but for me it really shines as drip coffee for me :) Great Video's keep it up
The name alone, candy bar sounds so yummy
Great video, thanks. It's always nice to get a longer term perspective from reviewers. And I really like your white vinyl wrap on the sides of the machine - a very tasteful addition.
I've been on the Dual Boiler bandwagon from the very beginning (released 2011 here in Australia). I'm on my second BDB now after my original was in need of some major maintenance at about the 10 year mark. It was going to be about $500 and my repairer suggested I just buy a new one and pointed me to a great sale where they were available at that time for AUD $900. Bargain!
Your view on the tamper is interesting. I love the integrated nature of it and am used to the relatively light weight. But I don't understand the fit problem you're having with yours. On both of my machines the tamper fit the baskets like a glove - absolutely no movement at all when seated. Are they making these machines in different locations for different markets?
Your view on using the filters and not having to descale is spot on. My first generation machine had the smaller (cheaper...) filters and I used them for the whole 10 years I had it. It never needed descaling in the 10 years I had it and the maintenance issues that led to it's demise were not related to scale build up (seals, probes, a tired pump...).
I don't like the larger, more expensive plastic filters of the new generation BDB. Instead I only use two stage filtered water in the new machine. I tested the PH of this water and set it in the new machine and in three years of use it has not alerted me to needing a de-scale and has performed flawlessly (my original BDB didn't have this feature and couldn't be descaled at home anyway).
One last observation: The price you pay in Canada is mad. CAD$2400 is AUD$2600. In Australia BDBs are available in store right now for around AUD$1200.
Ya I got it on a sale before inflation made thr price shoot up more. At this rate I don't see myself getting any new espresso Machine unless a company gifts or I make a crap ton more money lol What's the two stage filter?
@@GadgetsGearCoffee The two stage filtration I have is a plumbed system, with a dedicated tap on my kitchen sink. Our normal plumbed tap water here is perfectly drinkable but this improves the taste, and removes impurities. It also seems to provide a PH level that my Dual Boiler's descale monitor is happy with. Worth the investment if you have a coffee machine. Keeps the kettle free of scale build up too.
I just bought one of these for two main reasons. The Barista Express has lasted me 9 years with no issues (even though I only changed the gasket for the second time this week), and because the Dual Boiler is only $1250 AUD ($1,135CAD) in Australia so there's just no competition at that price over here.
Money saved is going straight into a few of thes other upgrades
hey, i would like to know what is your pump power pressure setting ?and what about pre infusion do you use it , how long ? thank you in advance for your answer!
doing slayer mod so none of that as it's at 100% and playing with flow czcams.com/video/inCyZLB_CQM/video.html
Great stuff as always Jess! I’m interested in that shot mirror you have but link takes me to a different one. Please send me link
this depends what country you're in
USA
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I think one item that is missing on your list is a puck screen. It may not make a noticeable change in coffee taste but it makes the workflow much better.
I have a puck screen but have actually never used it. I don't find my pucks all that messy to deal with, it's messier with darker roasts which I rarely drink. And with slayer mod and flow profiling, not really any extraction issues.
Was also going to mention a puck screen as well. Its main purpose is having a cleaner shower screen. I took my shower screen off for a cleaning after using a puck screen for about 6 months and there was zero gunk. It's just one less thing to clean and maintain. Never have to wipe the shower screen either with the little brush anymore.
@@PowerTaco23 that's nice to know, thanks a lot.
I started years ago with the Breville Infuser and the Breville Smart Grinder, I don't have them anymore but they are still working like a charm. It's been a while since I don't have any machine and the dual boiler is still attractive because it would fit my need but the cheap quality of the plastic is a big con. At that price they could easily make it smaller, all metal (better for sustainability) and with better accessories like a real tamper and better long term repairability.
Repairing isn't much of an issue with all the online resources now. It's just the target consumer for Breville isn't likely to repair it.
@@GadgetsGearCoffee you're totally right, target consumer is totally different for other coffee brands.
@@REMY.C. they're likely to not repair it, not know how and then call it junk when things eventually fail when it could have been a simple O ring replacement or they weren't using soft enough water and it scales up but they blame it on the machine
@@GadgetsGearCoffee so true, it's easier for people to throw away things and buy new ones, industries participated in this culture and repair shops are very rare (I see it here in France), either you know your stuff and you repair by yourself or you just buy new. The gesture of throwing in the trash is made so easy that people do not think about the repair possibilities or the consequences of landfill.
@@REMY.C. unfortunately. I just repaired my oil diffuser that was terribly designed and it only cost 16$ on and aliexpress. I could have bought a new one, had the same problem again, it was just a light that would get wet and stop working. I opened it up, replaced the light, light modding to keep wires dry, soldered. Unfortunately most people don't know how and or are not willing :/ same for a bathroom exhaust fan I recently repaired myself. Or luggage wheel replacements. It's a shame. Most of these things are actually quite simple and can extend the life of your products because they don't all wear at the same rate!
i have the sage dual boiler as well and am trying to get good results. i got the normcore tamper and bottomless pf after watching your video and was wondering if you please could suggest me a good dose volume for the sage stock basket. i assume i shoould use the singlewall doubleshot basket with it? but its splashing when i put around 19-20gr fine ground coffee with a strong tamp. thank you :)
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You'll probably need to adjust the grind size
@@GadgetsGearCoffee Thanks, i increased the dose to 20g with finer grind and got great results now :)
Have you serviced or replaced any parts in 3 yrs?
I feel that after 2 yrs you definitely need some replacement like o-rings.
Mine is about the same age and it started with dripping steam wand then steam leaking from both boilers and eventually killed it (no longer heats up).
I ignored servicing coz it’s still under extended warranty till 5yrs.
:o I haven't yet and I know I have to replace the O rings I just haven't yet... Haven't figured out the exact size or where to get food grade ones
It’s crazy, in Australia you can easily find this machine for $895 CAD
At that price, it’s a no brainer for what you get
Wait, what? Used? New?
@@albiblow Brand New from pretty much any major electrical retailer. For an extra $80 you can get it with a 5 year warranty too
@@thenameiwantedwastaken Damn. I JUST bought one used for 1000 CAD, and it came with some "quirks" that I have to fix. Not gonna lie, I'm jealous. And that's the dual boiler, but the pro or the express?
@@albiblow the pro is about 725 cad and the express is 524 cad in australia.
That's strange. In Australia I observed the BDB is rarely available unless packaged with the Smart Grinder Pro for about AUD$1700.
Ciao,after this vdo i will start researching on blooming espresso! Having the slayer mod means the pump doesn't cut off during pause,is that right?
not sure what you mean, you're just playing with the water FLOW
As she says and according to Lance and the DBD resources out there, the slayer mod allows for you to control the water flow without shutting off the pump. For the blooming technique, it also keeps the water on the puck and there’s no 3 way selinoid removal of your brew water out the drain.👍🏾👍🏾☕️
@@dirkl216 yes exactly!
Loose tampers are ok - not a big impact on extraction, but snug fit makes it easier to keep it in level. Anyway I do not use simple tampers anymore - tamping press is the king.
Pitcher - I was surprised becasue imho it is perfect sized for single milk coffee and I still use it.
PF - yes, I also bought NPF. And baskets are very good.
Coffee scale... I have one but use it only for videos - looks cool ;-) Everyday if you have repeatable grinder then no reason to bother with it. You see how much coffee you get in a cup.
I had to change SDB do other machine (and I miss it) but I "took with me" the double basket and the pitcher.
With a calibrated tamper and WDT, do you see the need for a distributor?
Absolutely not, don't waste your money. Though a good magnetic dosing funnel would help during wdt with fluffy grinds like
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Some people still like using it but a distributor just moves grinds around a little and mostly at the top so it's not even. A wdt IMO is all you'd need. But if you enjoy using a distributor in the routine that's a different thing.
A good/cheap single boiler espresso machine, would u go for Gaggia Classic? ☕
haven't looked into this, there are just too many variables like drinking milk or not, and what you're willing to work with in terms of the limited parameters of a more budget machine, though it is very capable of making good espresso. You're better off researching and figuring out what you're willing to put up with or not
Watch a demo on using including the wand for steaming milk. Also watch the maintenance videos for each model. Then make up your mind.
There is now a Legato in the market that offers GCP features at a lower cost and ease. 👍🏾👍🏾☕️
The shower plate is worth replacing in my opinion. The stock one is plastic. Not sure how I feel about hot water coming out of plastic time after time.
that's fair, I also don't like plastic in general for anything food related and if I can avoid it in general, but I believe you can't just swap out the shower plate without swapping out that entire "Set" and I assume it's a high resistant food-safe plastic (polymer?)
@@GadgetsGearCoffee the set comes with the gasket, lower shower screen, and the upper screen so it’s just a quick replacement but if you do do it make sure you replace the gasket otherwise you might have leaking. The plastic upper screen is known to crack from heat so might as well do it before hand imo. Mitch does coffee has a video on how to do it, although he doesn’t like brevilles that much he thinks it’s a better upgrade for the one he got which I think was an oracle. I bought one for mine on Amazon but haven’t done it yet.
I’ve done it and it’s a great upgrade. 👍🏾👍🏾☕️
@@dirkl216 noticed any differences? Doesn't the bolt stick out
@@GadgetsGearCoffee my bolt has a flat head
Remove the shower screen and check the group head. Very common issue with this machines is that the group head coating is peeling off, bubbling and melting slowly in your cup (probably every machine). I personally sandpapper mine completely.
exposed plastic though? did you reseal it?
Im very very new to this, not sure why not just use distilled water, to avoid the need to descale
If you were to purchase a newer/different machine for a similar budget (inc inflation) what would you pick today?
I haven't researched in depth at this point, I may have still stuck with the BDB given a lot of features I do like with this machine. Being able to refill from the front for example, is really great given I have mine under the cabinet and that really does affect the overall experience for me.
There are other machines though I have from an old list (not sure how relevant it is now, and I don't think they're in the same price category), in no order:
Bellezza Valentina (suggested by a viewer)
Bezzera Matrix/duo
Profitec Pro 700
ECM Synchronika
Rocket R Cinquantotto
Lelit Bianca
tbh I love the look of the La Marzocco machines and the Micra is the perfect size now it's shrunken down, but the lack of flow control is :(
Once per week, I use food safety lube on the rings. Rub a small amount on the rim of your portafilter and lock it into the group head over night. I use Lubri-Whiz by Billy Bucksin Co.
you talking about the group head basket where the protafilter locks in? why do you do that?
Keeps the gasket inside moisturized! Going on 6 years with my Breville and no gasket issues.
I cannot believe how expensive the machine is over there. In Australia, these go on sale 3-4 times a year and come down to $899 AUD ($801 CAD). Crazy to see the price hike outside of Aus.
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The Normcore tamper has a bit of play in it so that you may end up with a flat but not level tamp. Does anyone know if the Force tamper has that play?
I have it and one main reason is it's 58.5mm czcams.com/video/koSpjamFLYw/video.html I also reviewed another tamper on my channel that was 58.5mm search for tamper videos on my channel
AFLAS o- rings are the way to go!
thank you!! food safe? Can a consumer buy just a few (and not a pack of 1000).
The other issue is getting the exact right measurements for the Breville.
do you know what size it is? I see different things and then metric VS imperial and I'm not sure which one it is
I can't believe I never thought of the wrap idea for my BDB. Fuckin brilliant
also sick glasses
What’s the scale at 12:00 exactly, with the large display?
that was my very 1st kitchen scale, I can't find it on the USA amazon page but they have this one now amzn.to/3tNRkVg if not my current scale I just reviewed is this one s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DBsdjMP
@@GadgetsGearCoffee in the UK but will look! Thanks.
Great video 👍 Have you thought about contacting Breville, let them know about your channel? They might sponsor or give you products to review !! Keep on making great videos!! Cheers 😊
I haven't, not really sure what I'd say or what product they'd give me and I'm a small time CZcamsr.
I will think up some ideas (what you could say to Breville). Meanwhile about "small time", yes you don't have 1 million views, but you have excellent selling points. You are enthusiastic about Breville products (companies love that), and you are promoting them (for free really) just out of love of the products, and you really have good content and good info. I think it adds up to something companies like to support (maybe, I haven't researched it, just my guess). Also 1000s of views is not nothing. I've seen CZcamsrs with 20,000 views get a bunch of sample products from companies. Cheers. Great video as usual. Take care @@GadgetsGearCoffee
@@jayaline wouldn't say no to free gear I was eyeing anyway. I do get free gear which I always make clear in one way or another from companies right now as a micro influenced. Some coffee companies have contacted me before but it wasn't things I was interested in so I didn't accept
Absolutely agree! She’s a natural!
"before I didn't like coffee, now I'm crazy"
That's the story of many of us 😂
Oh I've always liked coffee ever since I was a kid. But I had no idea it could go from like to what it is now 😅
@@GadgetsGearCoffee I hated coffee and never drank (I'm "old" 😂) until I saw a random specialty coffee espresso video in 2016 or 17. That was the end of sanity for me, I instantly dived deep in trying to understand. It's a cool subject to be honest.
for people from metric countries or want to find this locally instead of online
Stock OD*ID*CS
#10 o-rings: 9.6x6x1.8mm Fluorine Rubber stock or Silicone
#07 o-rings: 7.15x3.55x1.8mm Red Silicone stock
avoid nitrile o-rings, they're not goodwith high heat
LEGEND! thank you! I've been holding off on getting the rings because all the information I found is from the USA and imperial and as Breville is AUS I'm pretty sure their O rings are metric because I did read of some people mentioning how the IMP O rings they purchased felt loose and they would measure their current O rings but it has loosened so it wasn't necessarily accurate information
I remember in one of your videos (might be this one, not sure) on the BDB that you were looking for a source for food grade O-Rings. Granger has them, I just ordered some 007 and 010 for my BDB. If you don't have Grainger in Canada, I can send you some as I had to buy 25 of each. It was like $10 (USD) all in, so the postage to you will likely cost me more than the O-rings I send you. :)
ohhh that's helpful to know! they're food grade? it seems we do have Grainger in Canada, I'm just unsure if they are in fact 007 and 010 because that info seems mixed online or if there is a 007 metric and 007 imperial? It's more the minute stuff. Did you get it to fit in properly? I'll either check ou Grainger if there is a food safe one or this other store locally someone suggested to me
The ones I bought are Imperial (5/32" ID and 9/32" OD, which translates to just slightly larger than 7mm OD and slightly smaller than 4mm ID).
Grainger does sell metric silicone o-Rings, but they don't seem to have dash numbers (i.e. 007, 010, etc.). They also sell multiple sizes within a given OD size, like a 7mm OD and have both 3mm and 4mm ID's (obviously different cross section sizes).
The metric ones Grainger have look like run of the mill silicone Shore A 70 O-ring material, which is harder than the FDA ones I ordered which is spec'ed as 50 on the durometer, which should seal better.
I have seen a few videos where people have stated that 7mm OD and 3mm ID is what the factory O-rings have. If that is actually the case (will be easy to tell when I get inside the machine as I can measure the plastic tubing they are going to be sealing), the ones I bought will be almost 4mm in the ID (thinner cross section). Being softer, hopefully they will seal fine.
I won't get them for.a few days. Probably be a week before I try them. I am also going to flip my steam valve seals while I wait for the new O-rings. My steam wand dribbles after it is warmed up. When I am flipping those seals, I am going to see if I can find a replacement on Grainger. In the videos I have watched on flipping those seals, they look like rectangular PTFE O rings, which Grainger again carries some sizes of. Some fun.
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Have you descaled it yet? I’m too scared
I've not. Preventing doing it altogether, am looking into how I can test the water hardness even better than those test trips
any service on you Dual Boiler in 3 years?
nope! still kicking strong
It’s insane the varying prices around the world, the BDB is just under $1000aud here in Australia.
it's an Oz brand right so that makes sense. Canadian dollar is weak at the moment :\ especially compared with the States. CAD & AUD used to be like 1:1
Yeah got mine for $850aud at that price it’s amazing value but no way is it worth what they are charging overseas.
@@Greg253d when and where did you get yours, I purchased just last month from good guys
@@Greg253d I'd have a harder time paying 2400, on sale for 1800-1900 cad. Though, money and its value is always different everywhere so a number is just a number in that respect. Though I do think cad and aud is similar value and similar in what it can buy you. I can be wrong though. Wondering if the other machines like lelit, lamarcozzo are much more expensive in Oz? Cuz sage being cheaper in Australia makes sense given its origin
@@trevor53332 years ago from Harvey. A mate got his at the same time from good guys for the same price. This was just for the machine, not the duo bundle that they do with the grinder.
So I’ve ordered this very expensive high end machine and don’t even have it yet and am now already thinking of modifying it although I’m not exactly sure why. Christ.
Resist. Enjoy it stock, don't check videos or anything yet. Make up your own mind before adding things in. Which machine?
Welcome to the Espresso Rabbit Hole, my friend.
@@Geefiasco it's a deep and dark but there are many of us here 🤣 welcome
Why is it so expensive in Canada? I bought it here in Aus for $999, brand new, on special. (that's $899 I'm Canadian dollars)
probably a multitude of reasons including where it was manufactured, import fees, our bad dollar
But the usual price is more like AUD1499, not 999. Maybe not fair to compare special offers.
Wooden tamp holder no longer available :'(
I just checked and it's showing up fine for me! which country are you in? unless you're looking at the smaller sizes try this s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DDHe6mx
I'm guessing you've never tried to clean your milk wand with the pallo tool... Go give it a try and you'll see the problem.
I feel like the only needed mod would be the slayer mod
That's the only mod I did so far. Haven't bothered with the OPV change
should i save money and get this or go full throttle LaMarzocco micra? LM Micra is twice as expensive.
Hard to say they're quite diff. I heard the la marcozzo are very consistent, so is the BDB to be fair but là marcozzo doesn't have flow control though I also saw there is a possible mod. More. Complicated than BDB flow mod. For that price, it'll be brand reputation, quality parts, heritage of the machine and honestly a beautiful machine. For me features for value and overall price were my deciding factors
I got a fancy force tamper thingy, and also a bottomless portafilter after watching too much youtube. Now after a couple of years daily use I just use the tamper that came with the Dual Boiler, and the dual spout portafilter. It's just easier, and there is hardly any difference at all.
you find using the stock tamper easier? I find that peculiar but it's always all a matter of taste! so long as you found something that works for you, bottomless to me is less to clean up because you only have the basket VS basket + spout
I buy my 920 9 years ago, then Oracle not out then.
interesting note! It was a 920XL or it was the previous model that was also a dual boiler? I don't get why there would just be a giant cube of empty space there then, I don't think it would need to be super tight in there but the cube of empty space just seems odd
there could be a reason for that space or that they were working on the Oracle (released in 2017 I think) or were planning on it behind the scenes when they released the BDB 🤷♀
BES920+ was model on Europe
@@GadgetsGearCoffee
Couldn’t one just cut the bottom of the stock Portafilter to make it bottomless?
uh... if you want to go that route.. you could
Just bought mine brand new in Australia for $990
show off :p in all seriousness I hope it's treating you well
@@GadgetsGearCoffee sorry didn’t mean to be a show off haha. I wonder why they are so expensive elsewhere.
We are in the process of moving so I haven’t even unboxed it!!! I can’t wait to try it out. Purchased the Varia VS3 Grinder to go with it as well 😊
It's pretty funny seeing Zs making videos on a espresso machine that's been around for over a decade like they've discovered something new
It was new to me but I wasn't sharing it like wow nobody knows about this treasure I just dug up, more like this is what I'm learning with this and hi internet, here is what I learned. also, I'm honored you think I'm gen Z teehee
@@GadgetsGearCoffeeI found it very helpful! Recently bought a BDB and was looking for thoughts.
glad it helped! @@rellify3
I'm unsubscribing! i brought half the stuff on the list 😆
lollll I only provide the information, I don't click "BUY" do come back and share your experience!
@@GadgetsGearCoffee haha I might as well ask what coffee beans should I get?
@@MyGSunny it's so personal. If you're new to your coffee journey, dialing in will take some time and in that time you try things and see what you like. Pay attention to regions more than variety, I'm sure the variety tastes different when grown in different areas but I haven't noticed a big enough trend with my taste preferences when it comes to that. I noticed region, drying process and roast level the most apparent.
Do not pay for these machines, even at the old prices, please get a good machine for the same money or less. Perfect example is the Belleza Bellona, PID, Dual Boiler, at a a great price in Canada (better) and U.S.A.
never heard of that machine, definitely picked my curiosity
I've been using the Breville Oracle bes980 sense 2015 and haven't looked back