What To Do If You Can't Remember Songs | Brainjo Bite
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The best way to develop an 'ear' for banjo (i.e., sound to motor skills)? Find a patient fiddle player. Weaned me of tab in a hurry. Best way to develop a skill for variations? Explore above the first three frets in every tuning. Find out where else the notes can be found. I really enjoy these talks, Josh. You could offer them for college credit, with your book as the textbook.
I took lessons at the Blueridge Pick'n Parlor back in the 80's for years and my memorization was next to nothing even now that I dug out my 🪕 this is something I really Need...
great content Josh many thanks for this, loving these. Can you do a brainjo bite how to turn a bad practice session into a worthwhile practice session?
Josh, I believe you just answered a question about how do I learn to play an instrument and not be stuck solely to tab or notations. I began my journey with the concepts of taking the visual approach which has actually been crippling to my progress over 12 years. I have learned a lot but it's been limited by what I see on the page. I definitely need to work on the listening skills and transformation of the sounds to physical actions and muscle memory growth. Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
Excellent Josh! 👍
Thank you
Unknown unknowns...are they beyond comprehension? 😁
Thanks for your insights
Great video! I'm definitely in the "learning path problem" camp so I guess the solution is to "develop musical fluency and develop my ear".
HOW do I "modify the learning process to support the development of musical fluency"?
When I learned to play "John Hardy", for example, my teacher played the 1st measure and I copied him. Then he played the 2nd measure, and I copied him again. Then he would correct me, saying "you are fretting the 3rd fret but you should be on the 2nd fret". After repeating him, one measure at a time, and making adjustments when I messed up, I finally learned the song.
It sounds like you're saying that is a bad approach because I'm learning the song note-for-note (by rote). What would be a better approach to learn to play "John Hardy"?
As a dyslexic I find while my melody memory is pretty good I think actually, I do find issues around remembering variation. Or at least remembering to use them even when I do remember them. It can be pretty frustrating. Or with old time music I sometimes have frustrating difficulty around playing the a or the b part too many times.
josh now I'm sad.. I'm an old classical guitar guy that reads treble clef, then I learned Scrugs, built a lute and now read french tab, learning drop thumb clawhammer and you say it"s not for me, maybe I pick or pluck the fast parts!
Of course it’s for you! Anyone can learn - plus continuing to develop your ear at this point is immensely good for your brain! :)
I know a lot of tunes and can play them when a fiddler starts the tune. But I don't remember their names.
This is really helpful. Can you talk a little bit (maybe you already have somewhere?) about a couple related problems:
1. What's going on in my brain when I'm in the middle of a song and can't remember the words to the next verse? It's not that I don't have them memorized--often, if I open my mouth, the words end up coming out, but leading up to that moment, my mind is a total (and panic-inducing!) blank, though often my fingers are playing the song just fine.
2. Why can't I think more than 2-3 of the songs I know when I sit down to practice? I've got a fairly deep repertoire (I've forgotten more song than I know, as they say), but when I have an instrument in my hands, I can rarely think of more than a handful of songs. It's even worse if someone asks me to play something for them!
I think it’s just being lazy. I had the same problem when i was playing guitar, i always practiced from tabs so when someone asks you to play you need your tabs. When i started playing banjo i s
@@waltzingpeter It's not laziness--I've done the work to memorize TONS of songs and lyrics, and I rarely practice with any sort of paper in front of me (usually only for about 10 minutes when I'm either trying to memorize words (and then usually I stop playing and write them down, which helps immensely) or learning a new banjo technique/lick that's so new that muscle memory doesn't help.
What's really going on is that there some sort of block, some sort of forgetfulness, that happens sometimes, where I can't consciously think of what I should do next (a forgetfulness that muscle memory often carries me through), either how the next verse starts or what song I should play next. Once I get started, things flow right along--it's the STARTING that's hard.
Are those times with songs you know through and through or is the whole lick/ part new to your ears?
I didn’t mean to offend you
That's the weird part--it's stuff I know stone cold and have played a million times. If someone said, "play the song where the first three words are, "I was standing..." I could launch right in and crush it. But too often, I end up staring at the wall, thinking "What songs do I know????" Uuuuuuuuuhhhhhhh.
Well i do know somewhat what you mean. I work with playlists so i don’t have that particular problem. I do walk alphabetically in my head through my repertoire. And practice most songs every day at least an hour. We are humans afterall. Not machines