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  • čas přidán 23. 10. 2023
  • Michael Owen debates who’s better Prime Mbappe or Prime Owen! Is Jamie Carragher a tougher opponent than Gary Neville? Gerrard vs Scholes! Welcome back to another edition of This or That on the FIVE YT channel! Today we have Ballon d’or winner and Ex England international player Michael Owen playing This or That with Harry Pinero. They discuss Ronaldo vs Henry! Would you rather win a league title with Liverpool or Man United! all this and much more in this exciting episode of This or That! Make sure you like, comment, subscribe and hit the notification bell to hear more from FIVE!
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    0:10; - Intro
    0:22; - Prime Kylian Mbappe or prime Michael Owen ?
    1:21; - Who’s the better premier league great? Cristiano Ronaldo or Thierry Henry
    2:27; - Who’s the toughest opponent between Gary Neville and Jamie Carragher?
    4:05; - Who would be a more suitable teammate for Michael Owen between Salah and Kane ?
    4:47; - Steven Gerrard or Paul Scholes ?
    7:26; - Winning the premier league with Liverpool or United?
    9:03; - 18 year old Michael Owen or 18 year old Wayne Rooney?
    10:36; - Outro
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  • @willgoodall1529
    @willgoodall1529 Před 6 měsíci +34

    This is probably the best Michael Owen interview I've seen

  • @joshd171294
    @joshd171294 Před 6 měsíci +23

    Respect to Owen. Has every right to be bitter about the injuries but he’s full of praise for the players he grew up playing with who didn’t have the same bad luck

    • @ballsdeep5336
      @ballsdeep5336 Před 4 měsíci +1

      That's the most intelligent thing some has said in this comment section full of crazy bias people, kudos

  • @Whereismyball
    @Whereismyball Před 6 měsíci +3

    Respect. For actually answering the questions.
    With Robbie/Michael… you always knew you had a chance.

  • @tris421
    @tris421 Před 6 měsíci +64

    Lampard to get you a goal, Gerrard to win you a game and Scholes to win you a league. That's it.

    • @thesaintst1851
      @thesaintst1851 Před 6 měsíci +7

      Rubbish 😂😂😂

    • @DonDraper8288
      @DonDraper8288 Před 6 měsíci +5

      Great comment

    • @jaysparrow6631
      @jaysparrow6631 Před 6 měsíci +6

      @tris421 probably the best analogy I’ve seen and I’m a utd fan! 🥹😢

    • @dcarlyle3390
      @dcarlyle3390 Před 6 měsíci +2

      Shite talk 😂😂
      He had Keane beside him holding his hand

    • @mcdelive
      @mcdelive Před 6 měsíci +3

      Which league did Scholes won for Utd? - Was it not likes of Cantona, Ronaldo, Ruud, Van Persie, Van der Sar, Vidic and so on primarily responsible. Scholes was a jouneyman !

  • @bjarkemadsboll
    @bjarkemadsboll Před 6 měsíci +21

    Harry is quickly becoming an absolute gem

  • @user-kg9sj3mz1l
    @user-kg9sj3mz1l Před 6 měsíci +2

    I am a Korean fan of Michael Owen. I've liked you since 2001, and I've been delighted and moved to see you every moment. My football life started with you.
    The only football star to me is you. I hope you always stay healthy and full of passionate.

  • @bieituns
    @bieituns Před 6 měsíci +2

    I think the more nuanced answer with some more context has to be that Owen was the better striker but Rooney was the better player at 18. Also Owen was just a super sub in World cup 1998 were as Rooney was the best player and first name on the team sheet for England in Euro 2004, the country was relying on him to carry the team despite all the other super stars like Gerard, Lampard, Beckham, scholes and Owen.
    Owen was definitely a very dangerous player to any defender in the world at that stage but I would say Owen would be your more likely match winner but Rooney would be your more likely man of the match. Lets not forget Rooney was probably the best player on the pitch in the first game against France with 2 teams full of super stars. It was only when he was subbed off near the end that Zidane was able to steal the show at the death.

  • @MALEXI10
    @MALEXI10 Před 6 měsíci +9

    He gets a load of stick but he's very honest. Any Balon D'or winner deserves eternal respect.

  • @simplyballing1592
    @simplyballing1592 Před 6 měsíci +9

    Lovely interview. I enjoyed this one

  • @Lifewithgoldbridge121
    @Lifewithgoldbridge121 Před 6 měsíci +9

    I hated him at Liverpool, but that's just to know how good he was. I'm happy he won the league with us.

  • @ronaldhenry3493
    @ronaldhenry3493 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Zidane said in his prime Gerrard was the best in the world, over Ronaldo and Messi. End of discussion

  • @Wladislav
    @Wladislav Před 6 měsíci +3

    Very good and thoughtful answers. Thanks, Mr Owen.

  • @Lagz123
    @Lagz123 Před 6 měsíci +4

    People forget that he was the original star boy. Like to win the golden boot at 17 and again at 18. To be that influential to the England team before 20. He has 8 hat tricks as the teenager. EIGHT!

  • @H.Ali_08
    @H.Ali_08 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Owen top interview. To win back to back golden boots at 17 and 18 in an era riddled with top strikers showed the absolute levels of this man - clear of Rooney at that age and i'd even argue clear of Mbappe at 17/18. Injuries ruined Owen. I'm a Liverpool fan and still have respect for Owen despite not agreeing with his move to United - facts are facts was an animal. Respect for the truth about Gerrard but in reality Owen was four years ahead of Gerrard - Gerrard came to the fore in 2001 despite rotating with MacAllister - what was Owen doing then? Winning the Ballon Dor thats what 😅 Liverpool and England overburdening ruined him.

  • @konzaros7482
    @konzaros7482 Před 6 měsíci +9

    Owen confirming what all non united fans know, gerrard is more complete than scholes

    • @civildiscourse7626
      @civildiscourse7626 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Milner is more complete than Benzema… so what? 😂

    • @konzaros7482
      @konzaros7482 Před 6 měsíci

      @@civildiscourse7626 so gerrard is better than scholes you dog, as balon dor winner M.Owen stated, what a stupid comparison also, milner is a midfielder, benzema is a striker where as gerrard and scholes both are central midfielders. cry more

    • @samwize28
      @samwize28 Před 6 měsíci

      You can keep your 'most complete player trophy'.
      If both players are playing in a foreign league (as to remove all tribalism) at the same time - i'm paying more money to watch Scholes play every time.
      Yes, he isn't a cool character, he's ginger, asthmatic, and a butcher of a tackler - but the mans an absolute wizard what he can do with a ball, cant take my eyes off him.

    • @konzaros7482
      @konzaros7482 Před 6 měsíci

      @@samwize28 cool story

    • @ggmm6182
      @ggmm6182 Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@konzaros7482cool story and a true story

  • @StandOutTV_
    @StandOutTV_ Před 6 měsíci +6

    What a fantastic interview. Thank you Michael and Harry.

  • @cfcmoi11
    @cfcmoi11 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Love this show already

  • @danikahn5378
    @danikahn5378 Před 6 měsíci +5

    Michael Owen is a Liverpool boy you can't knock him for that but as united fans we love him for scoring the winner in a Manchester Derby in the last minute to win 4-3 and his celebration showed he loved he did that.

    • @ggmm6182
      @ggmm6182 Před 6 měsíci

      Your not from Manchester are you?

    • @danikahn5378
      @danikahn5378 Před 6 měsíci

      @@ggmm6182 I am yes

    • @ggmm6182
      @ggmm6182 Před 6 měsíci

      @@danikahn5378 Michael Owen is from Chester not Liverpool

    • @danikahn5378
      @danikahn5378 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@ggmm6182 you misunderstood... i wasn't implying he's from Liverpool I said he's a Liverpool boy as in from their academy like he said in the video.

  • @VS-cf8pc
    @VS-cf8pc Před 6 měsíci +39

    United fan - agree Owen at 18 was better. Rooney as he got older was better overall and for his longevity at a top team.

    • @TC8787-yq7og
      @TC8787-yq7og Před 6 měsíci +4

      Na disagree mate, at Everton; Wayne Rooney is the best player I’ve ever seen at Goodison. At 16 he was running games single handed, at 17 he would have won England euro 2004 on his own, and at 18 he was scoring hat tricks in the champions league, I think he’s better than Owen at the same age.

    • @charlielad6124
      @charlielad6124 Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@TC8787-yq7ogDominated against Switzerland haha. Got knocked out when you played against a real team like France.

    • @TC8787-yq7og
      @TC8787-yq7og Před 6 měsíci

      @@charlielad6124 scored 2 against Croatia as well; he scored 4 goals in 3 games. Portugal knocked England out on penalties after Rooney got injured, France was in the group stages mate.

    • @ggmm6182
      @ggmm6182 Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@TC8787-yq7ogabsolute nonsense Michael Owen as a teenager was the best English player in history 2 golden boot awards and ballon d'Or winner before he was 21 years old Rooney at the same age was nowhere near his level

    • @TC8787-yq7og
      @TC8787-yq7og Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@ggmm6182 Owen was an out-and-out striker, so judging them on Golden Boots is misleading.

  • @tolkienfan10
    @tolkienfan10 Před 6 měsíci +4

    Most of Owen's mates are his former LFC team-mates. He's still LFC at heart, really.

  • @Nappyboy_collection
    @Nappyboy_collection Před 6 měsíci +6

    Owen speaks nothing but real truth kudos to him

  • @mosalah5113
    @mosalah5113 Před 6 měsíci +5

    Every single answer he says is correct!

  • @cjay6547
    @cjay6547 Před 6 měsíci +6

    Without being too negative, I don't particularly rate Owen on TV as a pundit, but he seems a sound guy and very likeable.
    .....And let's not forget, on the field in his prime, Owen was an absolute menace. Admiration for this guy has just gone up a notch. 😎❤️

    • @arsenesson8033
      @arsenesson8033 Před 6 měsíci

      Fr a good guy to have a convo with but he just doesn’t suit as a pundit

  • @kneeenaw4
    @kneeenaw4 Před 6 měsíci +1

    There will always be someone that comes along and takes that record, it may take a while but it will be taken

  • @ih8mcfly
    @ih8mcfly Před 5 měsíci +1

    Honestly. Owen was only behind R9 between 97-99.
    He was electric.

  • @samwize28
    @samwize28 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Was born in 1990 so just about remember 18 year old Owen.
    I think Owen was a much better finisher and was absolutely rapid, but Rooney was an all rounder (work rate, free kicks, long shots, volleys, heading, passing)
    Hard to say which was better. I suppose Owen seeing as he has a Ballon Dor.

  • @OurLegacyGaming
    @OurLegacyGaming Před 6 měsíci +2

    He makes very good points

  • @stuboy13
    @stuboy13 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Owen a better striker at 18. Faster and as good a finisher around. Rooney wasn't a centre forward at 18. And as an all round player, Rooney was obviously more talented. Owen was more than just speed, but when he lost his speed he struggled with adapting. Positioning. Shooting when not running at goal. Linking up with other players.

  • @mindfulskillmerchant
    @mindfulskillmerchant Před 6 měsíci +2

    Gerrard is for sure clear, not by a lot, but clearly a level above - like messi and Ronaldo, Messi is better but Ronaldo is unreal and still behind

  • @Fromriver2seaE
    @Fromriver2seaE Před 6 měsíci +3

    Fun fact - Owen was joint top scorer in both those seasons with two other players

  • @MrGonsie
    @MrGonsie Před 6 měsíci +1

    I thought he would have said Salah over Kane, just because of the pace to be honest. Those two bursting forward would be unreal

  • @endlessmotion2255
    @endlessmotion2255 Před 6 měsíci +4

    They're too different compare though really. Owen was a quck and lethal striker, whereas Rooney was an all round street player. Owen was further ahead in his development at 18 but Rooney had so much more to his game than goals. Owen's game was only ever about putting the ball in the net. Rooney playing just off a prime Owen would have been devastating though

    • @ggmm6182
      @ggmm6182 Před 6 měsíci

      Owen had a lot more to his game than just goals his speed and acceleration was frightening and his intelligence on how to beat the last man and when to make the runs was the best I've seen Rooney was never as good as Owen at the same age,
      Owen won the ballon d'Or at 21 years of age

  • @titleinislington
    @titleinislington Před 6 měsíci +1

    You had to mention those two goals in cardiff

  • @FootkerSnookball
    @FootkerSnookball Před 5 měsíci +1

    Sounds like MichaelOwen thinks of StevenGerrard the same way as RoyKeane does with DenisIrwn lol

  • @andrew25613
    @andrew25613 Před 6 měsíci +2

    If weren’t for the injuries it’s scary what player he could of become

  • @thetrappedchatterbox7941
    @thetrappedchatterbox7941 Před 6 měsíci +2

    I'm a bit of a HP fan you know. He's been bringing all the sauce lately.

  • @AJ-nd4nk
    @AJ-nd4nk Před 6 měsíci +46

    More players voted for Gerrard over Scholes in the Ballon d'Or, FIFA team of the year, and the PL team of the year.

    • @benitotommassi5820
      @benitotommassi5820 Před 6 měsíci +22

      Because he was a superstar who stood out in an otherwise 2nd rate team. La Masia wasn't showing videos of Gerrard to students like Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, Fabregas, etc. Scholes, quite literally, taught those young students how to play football.

    • @Woze899
      @Woze899 Před 6 měsíci +1

      ​@@benitotommassi5820am a United fan but Lampard edges for me ahead of Scholes

    • @dondamon4669
      @dondamon4669 Před 6 měsíci +9

      Means nothing, Scholes never even had an agent and he never got involved in the politics. Scholes never even spoke after games.

    • @itsinthetreesitscoming7431
      @itsinthetreesitscoming7431 Před 6 měsíci

      @@dondamon4669 right, well that's relevant...

    • @ggmm6182
      @ggmm6182 Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@dondamon4669he was an old school footballer

  • @Scienterrifical
    @Scienterrifical Před 6 měsíci +15

    Utd fan..and former intermediate footballer. Gerrard is the most complete midfielder the premier league has seen. He carried lfc for a decade. Scholes was an artist no doubt.

    • @samwize28
      @samwize28 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Utd fan too and i agree. If i was building a team from scratch i pick Gerrard ahead of scholes.
      But as a general football fan, im paying more money to watch Scholes play football. I could literally watch him kick a football all day. My favourite player ever alongside Ronaldinho

  • @waynemarshall8836
    @waynemarshall8836 Před 6 měsíci +13

    I’m choosing Owen at 18. He was second only to Ronaldo (the real one) he was phenomenal. Rooney was hard though but just Owen- he really was something scary in world football

    • @3allz
      @3allz Před 6 měsíci +1

      Owen was world class at 18 though. As he said, 2 golden boots before he was 20 and won the Balon'Dor and got Real Madrids interest.

    • @waynerooney8311
      @waynerooney8311 Před 6 měsíci +1

      sorry the "real ronaldo"? nah R9 is world class but lets be serious, the real Ronaldo is and will always be Cristiano Ronaldo

    • @waynerooney8311
      @waynerooney8311 Před 6 měsíci

      would you take Owen at 18 for his 2-3 seasons of being world class or would you take Rooney knowing he would be world class for many more years

    • @DirtyJamesUK
      @DirtyJamesUK Před 6 měsíci

      Both of these guys were world class from 17 but Owen takes it up until at least 19 and I'm a massive Rooney fan. I much prefer Wayne, but Owen was deadly and everyone knew!

    • @waynerooney8311
      @waynerooney8311 Před 6 měsíci

      Owen was deadly no doubt just a shame injuries ruined him, shame peak Owenwas just. for 2-3 years due to his injuries@@DirtyJamesUK

  • @Tashmaster3000
    @Tashmaster3000 Před 6 měsíci +4

    Owen was the better finisher at 18...but Rooney was the better all round team player at 18...

  • @WKingston
    @WKingston Před 6 měsíci +1

    Owen was the reason I started playing football

  • @higgsboson2280
    @higgsboson2280 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Now in England ppl prefer the Rodri/Gundogan type to the all action Jordan Henderson type. With 2023 eyes on, whose the best, Gerrard, Scholes, Carrick, Lampard?

  • @SacristScorn
    @SacristScorn Před 6 měsíci +1

    Does not matter where you start, it only matters where you end.

    • @hughtube5154
      @hughtube5154 Před 6 měsíci

      Depends what you did along the way.

  • @craziewill
    @craziewill Před 6 měsíci

    Agreed with Gerrard VS Scholes.. Liverpool need Steven Gerrard's individual brilliance to win something and shine for the team..
    Man Utd need Paul Scholes to make the entire team shine brighter..
    As Thierry Henry said before, Paul Scholes made Man Utd tick.. Shut down Scholes and Man Utd wont be as good.. shut down Gerrard or not, Liverpool may win or lose..

  • @nmarcus7233
    @nmarcus7233 Před 5 měsíci

    I’d agree agree with Owen all there. He was more lethal against any opponent at 18. Scholes more gifted than Stevie G but Stevie G’s all round game and big game pedigree is something different.

  • @saidhammar5006
    @saidhammar5006 Před 2 měsíci

    At 18 I agree Owen was the best of the two. Rooney reached his peak at 22-23 and then he was the best but he was no longer playing 9 but more like 10

  • @DavidBeckett-xz4lh
    @DavidBeckett-xz4lh Před 6 měsíci +1

    Owen was unreal. World class. Injuries distroyed him. Gerrard was a player, similar to Lampard but better. Scholes was different level. Pep, xavi, inesta would have him in there barca and spanish side. Case settled. Paul Scholes was Englands best ever player. Only problem for Paul was he was born in England

    • @itsinthetreesitscoming7431
      @itsinthetreesitscoming7431 Před 6 měsíci

      who would Scholes have replaced in the Spanish national team or Barcelona?
      Do tell...

    • @ggmm6182
      @ggmm6182 Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@itsinthetreesitscoming7431it's not about replacing a player mate,
      When you had the talent and football intelligence Paul scholes had than you make room for him in any team simple as that

    • @itsinthetreesitscoming7431
      @itsinthetreesitscoming7431 Před 6 měsíci

      @@ggmm6182 hahaha yeah ok.
      Just skirt the fact that you'd have to remove one of Busquets, Xavi or Iniesta to "make room for him" - all three of them all-time greats.
      Not in the same league. Even Ferguson knew it when he didn't "make room for him" for the CL final against them - he knew how that would have went, and so he made room for Park instead...

    • @ggmm6182
      @ggmm6182 Před 6 měsíci

      @@itsinthetreesitscoming7431 how is it a fact when it is your opinion not reality?
      You do realise scholes was over 10 years older than busqeots and iniesta and 6 years older than xavi, different generation to them scholes was wanted by juventus and inter Milan in the late 1990s when people like Zidane and davids were there,
      Ferguson chose park in that final to do a man marking tactical job, scholes was 35 years old at the time get real mate he was to old,
      The fact remains when you were as good as scholes was you make room for him regardless of who else is on the pitch
      Pep guardiola before the 2008 champions league final was interviewed and said scholes was the one player we want at Barcelona,
      Xavi asked scholes for his shirt after the match,
      End of discussion mate

    • @brentmeistergeneral6074
      @brentmeistergeneral6074 Před 6 měsíci

      Scholes was a good attacker, Gerrard did it ALL!!

  • @wild4fp
    @wild4fp Před 6 měsíci

    Owen was excellent first on the scene.

  • @doubledigital_
    @doubledigital_ Před 6 měsíci

    regardless he will always be a liverpool legend

  • @connorbutler5900
    @connorbutler5900 Před 6 měsíci

    I met Owen in an ASDA when I was 12, we asked for a picture and he told us to leave him alone

  • @danielrichardson4868
    @danielrichardson4868 Před 6 měsíci +6

    Rooney is the greatest English player ever, followed by Sir Bobby Charlton

    • @dondamon4669
      @dondamon4669 Před 6 měsíci +1

      He's not even in the top ten footballers of all time. Wasn't even the best in his team

    • @danielrichardson4868
      @danielrichardson4868 Před 6 měsíci

      English i said@@dondamon4669

    • @faendal6615
      @faendal6615 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@dondamon4669that’s a laughable comment

    • @hughtube5154
      @hughtube5154 Před 6 měsíci

      Not if you take into account their records at international tournaments.

    • @brentmeistergeneral6074
      @brentmeistergeneral6074 Před 6 měsíci

      Get a life 😂

  • @neilg6675
    @neilg6675 Před 6 měsíci

    Such different players. Owens prime didn't last long enough. Wayne had far more to his game, but Owen was as good a striker as you'll ever see with pace to burn. I'd take Rooney

    • @VoiceOfThe
      @VoiceOfThe Před 6 měsíci

      Look into Owens stats from 1997-2004. They stand up to anyone. I was shocked myself.

  • @badabing8884
    @badabing8884 Před 6 měsíci

    None of them won any medals playing for England.
    And then Henry went to Barca and saw Messi and thought OMG is that the level?

  • @hughtube5154
    @hughtube5154 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I'm curious who Liverpool fans would pick: Owen at 18, or Fowler at 18?

    • @jamiebrian5445
      @jamiebrian5445 Před 6 měsíci

      Fowler most naturally gifted goalscorer.....GOD

    • @CA213FAN
      @CA213FAN Před 6 měsíci

      Fowler was wild. if i recall he scored more hatricks very early in his liverpool career. he had no fear

  • @James1-9-7-8
    @James1-9-7-8 Před 6 měsíci

    Every question a baller! Remembered his Ballon D’Or, but forgot his two golden boots by nineteen. He’s right when he says nobody will beat the latter record. Not dissimilar to Mike Tyson’s record of being youngest ever heavyweight champion at twenty years old: who can you see besting that?

    • @ggmm6182
      @ggmm6182 Před 6 měsíci

      Mike Tyson haha don't make me laugh mate the most overrated boxer in history all the best boxers of his generation beat Lewis holyfield twice etc
      And Tyson is a convicted rapist don't disrespect a person like Michael Owen comparing his to Mike Tyson

  • @samuelburgess_31
    @samuelburgess_31 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Rooney dominated Euro 2004 at 18. Not many could live with him even at that age. Had so much more to his game which meant he could dictate.

    • @charlielad6124
      @charlielad6124 Před 6 měsíci

      Dominated against Switzerland haha. Got knocked out when you played against a real team like France.

    • @ggmm6182
      @ggmm6182 Před 6 měsíci +2

      Michael Owen won the ballon d'Or at 21 years old end of discussion

    • @ozymandias8346
      @ozymandias8346 Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@charlielad6124he was the best player vs fRANCE. It’s not his fault Becks missed the pen and Gerrard slipped

  • @ajeshnair9915
    @ajeshnair9915 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Why dont you ask who is his GOAT!

  • @spencerlord444
    @spencerlord444 Před 6 měsíci

    God i poved watching him for lfc, we had a good team when hecplayed, just not as good as man utd at the time

  • @CA213FAN
    @CA213FAN Před 6 měsíci

    damn. two golden boots at 18 and 19, just cannot be broken for a long long time. then ballon at 21. need a mercurial genius padowan to emerge. Ronney was not on his level at 18.

  • @ThomasDoubting5
    @ThomasDoubting5 Před 6 měsíci

    Yes Owen was better than Rooney at 18 and Also pretty much any other player you want to draw that comparison .

  • @STILLPHENOM
    @STILLPHENOM Před 6 měsíci +1

    Poor owens gets so much diss from liverpool fans for goin to united but what was he supposed to do? Liverpool didnt come calling? Id be upset too when liverpool didnt want him back. Fair play to the guy and in the end its business.

    • @doubledigital_
      @doubledigital_ Před 6 měsíci

      only idiots do that mate real fans know the score

  • @ogs3721
    @ogs3721 Před 6 měsíci +97

    Some english players chose Gerrad, while greats like Xavi, Pirlo, Pep, Mourinho and many others chose Scholes

    • @swvi9459
      @swvi9459 Před 6 měsíci +4

      This

    • @Joe-rr8ls
      @Joe-rr8ls Před 6 měsíci

      Also Defo, Xavi alonso (the midfield partners of Lampard and Gerrard ffs), Zidanne, Guardiola, Henry

    • @usxnews1834
      @usxnews1834 Před 6 měsíci +8

      While I personally think Scholes is a bit better than Gerrard, every single one of those players / managers you mentioned all have huge admiration for Stevie G - Pirlo said he was probably the most complete midfielder in Europe while Mourinho tried to sign him twice

    • @madam051
      @madam051 Před 6 měsíci +34

      Rubbish. There have been so many players and managers outside of england that have praised gerrard. Scholes couldnt do eveyrthing gerrard could and gerrard could do everything scholes could.

    • @superbam605
      @superbam605 Před 6 měsíci

      english people hyping up their own players with fake quotes

  • @4857i
    @4857i Před 6 měsíci +11

    Michael owen was better than mbappe. I saw mbappe at anfield score two and wheel away in front of the kop and thought “wow” hes a great player but michael owen between 17-20 before the surgery which curtailed his career was absolutely terrifying. The way argentina (argentina not faroe islands) backed off and off and off in that world cup shows they were absolutely terrified of his pace and that shows the world greatest players were terrified of a 17-18 year old.

    • @FlakaFleign
      @FlakaFleign Před 6 měsíci +1

      Oi some RESPECT to Faroe Island mate hahaha. totally agree- with you, the only better 17/18 year old will be Ronaldo (R9).

    • @peterf08
      @peterf08 Před 6 měsíci

      Nostalgia bias there
      No chance Owen was better than Mbappe, better finisher maybe but nothing else

    • @4857i
      @4857i Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@peterf08 mbappe tried to run away from van dijk and he marshalled him one on one and tackled him. You couldnt do that with owen. One on one with michael owen at 17, van dijk would have been dead

    • @CA213FAN
      @CA213FAN Před 6 měsíci

      now you deluded. mbappe is miles better than owen. get real.

  • @samwiseganj
    @samwiseganj Před 6 měsíci

    Epileptic transitions

  • @radef.6177
    @radef.6177 Před 6 měsíci +18

    Ferguson had Scholes but wanted Gerrard,Mourihno had Lampard but wanted Gerrard tells you enough.

    • @Timekeeper1200
      @Timekeeper1200 Před 6 měsíci +3

      Ferguson didn't want him to replace scholes and mourinho didn't want him to replace lampard. He was seen as a player to play alongside them

    • @radef.6177
      @radef.6177 Před 6 měsíci

      I never said to replace but wanted to improve midfield which means Gerrard was better and ofc he was.@@Timekeeper1200

    • @benitotommassi5820
      @benitotommassi5820 Před 6 měsíci +2

      Guardiola had Xavi, Messi, Toure and Iniesta but wanted scholes. For how Gerrard would have fared in a top team, see Veron.

    • @radef.6177
      @radef.6177 Před 6 měsíci

      Thats a lie.@@benitotommassi5820

    • @civildiscourse7626
      @civildiscourse7626 Před 6 měsíci

      Lol if Liverpool could have got scholes you don’t think they would have? 😂

  • @higgsboson2280
    @higgsboson2280 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Alonso whom played with Gerrard thought Carrick was the best English midfielder.

    • @douglasdouga-ji3gn
      @douglasdouga-ji3gn Před 6 měsíci +1

      United fans are really triggered 😂

    • @higgsboson2280
      @higgsboson2280 Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@douglasdouga-ji3gn just stating Alonso's own words. Seems these words triggered you. 😂

  • @gannonmanu09
    @gannonmanu09 Před 6 měsíci +1

    People saying Gérard could carry a team and Scholes didn't but what happened at England Steve never carried longhand

    • @itsinthetreesitscoming7431
      @itsinthetreesitscoming7431 Před 6 měsíci

      he carried Liverpool - Scholes never carried any team.
      Nor would he have been capable of doing so. All he could do do was pass and score a few goals. Could run neither fast nor far, couldn't tackle and couldn't carry a ball more than 5 yards. Good passer surrounded by great players....

    • @gannonmanu09
      @gannonmanu09 Před 6 měsíci

      @@itsinthetreesitscoming7431 how many honors has he won

    • @itsinthetreesitscoming7431
      @itsinthetreesitscoming7431 Před 6 měsíci

      @@gannonmanu09 hahahaha that just proves the point, moron....
      'Good passer surrounded by great players'.
      This isn't golf or tennis - Man Utd won the honours - Scholes was just a cog in a better machine.

    • @pauliyonas3576
      @pauliyonas3576 Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@itsinthetreesitscoming7431 he didn't carrie Liverpool they won as a team.

    • @itsinthetreesitscoming7431
      @itsinthetreesitscoming7431 Před 6 měsíci

      @@pauliyonas3576sorry - what language is that?

  • @MajorGainz01
    @MajorGainz01 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Micheal Owen was an elite striker. He had to do what he had to do. Liverpool fans should take him back.

    • @frankdux5693
      @frankdux5693 Před 6 měsíci +2

      He never scored more than 20 league goals per season in his life.

    • @MajorGainz01
      @MajorGainz01 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@frankdux5693 did you see him play or are you just talking

    • @frankdux5693
      @frankdux5693 Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@MajorGainz01 I was an adult when he came on the scene. Of course I seen him play. His best ever goals tally in the league was 19. Elite strikers can get 30 and above. Owen wasn't capable. And when he lost half a yard of pace he was finished as a player because he didn't have the skill and ability to change his game and still thrive.

    • @MajorGainz01
      @MajorGainz01 Před 6 měsíci

      @@frankdux5693 from 17/18 until he left Liverpool he was a killer and left all defenders for dead. He also won European trophy’s and the balon dor he is Elite.

    • @frankdux5693
      @frankdux5693 Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@MajorGainz01 for me strikers job is putting the ball in the net. Elite strikers achieve 25+ league goals per season. Owen never achieved this.

  • @HXNZ99
    @HXNZ99 Před 6 měsíci +11

    Forget the "golden boots", Rooney was a better player than Owen at 18.
    Rooney was bullying men at 16, Owen was a fast finisher, Rooney was complete at 18.

    • @mashwork6615
      @mashwork6615 Před 6 měsíci +9

      Owen has every right to say he was better can’t ignore winning the golden boot in your first 2 seasons as a teenager that’s a ridiculous achievement

    • @AhmadBukani
      @AhmadBukani Před 6 měsíci +1

      It's so tough. Both were golden kids.
      The next one from Rooney is Bellingham. No one came between wazza and Bellingham.

    • @sponish0
      @sponish0 Před 6 měsíci +3

      Owen when young was a lot more than a finisher he could take players on get crosses in etc. Look at the argentina goal he ran past half the team to score

  • @dannydude007321
    @dannydude007321 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Thanks for the seizure warning guys...
    (Genuinely would advise against those graphics in future!)

  • @sf2explus184
    @sf2explus184 Před 3 měsíci

    how is it even a question 18 year old owen vs 18 year old rooney. i find that an insult to owen. owen was phenominal at 18 even teams like brazil knew who he was

  • @burgerlover237
    @burgerlover237 Před 6 měsíci

    jamie Carragher = 38 international caps & 0 Prem leagues...G Nev = 85 & 8 Premier league titles

  • @benwalton2600
    @benwalton2600 Před 6 měsíci

    Is there a way of watching this without having a brain aneurysm?

  • @englishlad8085
    @englishlad8085 Před 6 měsíci +1

    All Michael Owens record will end up broken but it don’t change the fact that he was a Phenom , definitely the best live performance I have ever seen , I was in Munich in 01 when we beat Z Germans 5-1 and Owen got a Hatric, was unbelievable to see specially in Munich 😂

  • @higgsboson2280
    @higgsboson2280 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Every invincible Arsenal player thought Scholes was the best man utd player. That makes Scholes the best player in England bar some of the invicibles.

    • @douglasdouga-ji3gn
      @douglasdouga-ji3gn Před 6 měsíci +1

      12 draws and losing all cup competitions 😂

    • @higgsboson2280
      @higgsboson2280 Před 6 měsíci

      @@douglasdouga-ji3gn triggered. 😂

    • @kazoh0lic
      @kazoh0lic Před 6 měsíci

      Er said who? Vieira picked Gerrard over himself and Keane as the best ever.

  • @nabeelpatel3
    @nabeelpatel3 Před 6 měsíci

    Owen:1+1=2

  • @stephendwane8166
    @stephendwane8166 Před 6 měsíci

    Prime Owen over Rooney every day, that goal at 18 over Argentina was ridiculous for an 18 yr old on that stage, Rooney at that stage flattered to deceive

  • @miguelrosado6348
    @miguelrosado6348 Před 6 měsíci +2

    I remember when Rooney started to play - he was a phenomenon like Ronaldo R9. Defenders were simply terrified of him. Not even Haaland or Mbappe are comparable today.

    • @DonDraper8288
      @DonDraper8288 Před 6 měsíci +3

      Like R9 ??? Don’t talk wet son. Rooney as great as he is is not and never has been in the same stratosphere.

    • @jaysparrow6631
      @jaysparrow6631 Před 6 měsíci +1

      “Comparison is the thief of joy”! Although Rooney was great R9 was something else. The best striker that’s ever been in a time where the game was tougher to play with Keane like players in every position that were world class as back then there were a lot more notable players than there are today. So no just no as Messi himself has said R9 is the greatest striker he’s ever seen and even on a bad day R9 was better than 99% of strikers that’s out there today! One must l👀k at Brazils World Cup winning team of 2002 where the commentators mocked him for being fat and he outplayed out scored and won the golden boot therefore justifying his nickname the phenomenon! You’re welcome; utd fan here and R9 I believe is the only opposition player that’s received a standing ovation at Old Trafford so knowing what you now know where does Rooney really stand?!

    • @DonDraper8288
      @DonDraper8288 Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@jaysparrow6631 lest we forget he was sidelined for 2 years before that World Cup … with potential career ending injuries. Those injuries completely changed his game and he was still by far the best striker to ever do it. He had 2 careers in one and both were the best to ever do it. For my money, injury free he’s the undisputed goat. Maybe without those injuries his discipline and motivation would of remained. We’ll never know. I do know. I’ve never seen anything like to Ronaldo Nazzario.

    • @jaysparrow6631
      @jaysparrow6631 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@DonDraper8288I’ve not forgotten as I’m a year older than R9 and have fond memories of him and I’m glad you shared your view on him as you know what I know of him and I’m sure there’ll be others that’ll comment about other things that we’ve not mentioned which is great as the original commenter that started this thread will get a more detailed complete view of who/ what R9 was about as that injury still brings tears to my eyes so thank you for your post much appreciated. 🥹😢

  • @gman0155
    @gman0155 Před 6 měsíci

    Rooney and Owen together at both 19 would have been the one ha. Need stop respecting experience and let the kids play

  • @jedsithor
    @jedsithor Před 6 měsíci +8

    Rooney was a far better player than Owen at 18. Owen was quicker but everything about Rooney's game was at a level of players 6 or 7 years older than what he was. Strength, skill, power, first touch, vision...Rooney had it all.

    • @sponish0
      @sponish0 Před 6 měsíci +5

      Owen won 2 goldern boots as a teenager mate could you imagine some 17 year old unkown kid today wining the goldern boot?

    • @richardjones3792
      @richardjones3792 Před 6 měsíci

      It's his opinion soooo stfu

    • @frankdux5693
      @frankdux5693 Před 6 měsíci +1

      ​@@sponish0what golden boots? Owen max goals per season was 19. I don't think he ever topped the premiership scoring charts in any season. Even the year he won the balon Dor he was 5th top scorer, behind the likes of Marcus Stewart at Ipswich town.

    • @sponish0
      @sponish0 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@frankdux5693 he literally topped the scoring charts in his first 2 prem seasons. he won the goldern boot with 19 goals in both

    • @frankdux5693
      @frankdux5693 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@sponish0 incorrect. He scored 18 in 97-98 and shared top scorer with Dion Dublin and Chris Sutton, and they all benefitted from shearer being injured all season.
      In 98-99 Owen got 18 again and shared top scorer with Dwight Yorke and Jimmy Floyd hasslebaink.
      He's never been out and out top scorer in the prem. 19 league goals is his best ever season and he was 5th top scorer that year.

  • @jimclawley9117
    @jimclawley9117 Před 6 měsíci +1

    1000% better than Rooney at 18

  • @billys1389
    @billys1389 Před 6 měsíci +1

    11 prem leagues
    2 champions league
    1 world club cup
    4 fa cups
    2 league cups
    Says it all really!

  • @jakefarronmerlin7963
    @jakefarronmerlin7963 Před 6 měsíci +3

    prime owen made the best in the modern era look average.

  • @user-tu6qi8nr5m
    @user-tu6qi8nr5m Před 6 měsíci +15

    Sholes career at liverpool and gerrard vise versa to man utd .how would they get on ? Dont think scholes would get a metion personaly

    • @broughy23
      @broughy23 Před 6 měsíci +3

      The fact that Scholes was the first name on the team sheet in those United teams says it all.

    • @dozz87
      @dozz87 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@broughy23 course he was

    • @4857i
      @4857i Před 6 měsíci +1

      Yeah if scholes was a scouser and gerrard was a manc, we’d know scholes was a top player but we wouldnt be going round saying hes better than gerrard

    • @dozz87
      @dozz87 Před 6 měsíci

      Scholes literally gets better as each season passes, it’s hilarious

    • @4857i
      @4857i Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@dozz87 id have literally told scholes and lampard to go and play for another country and built the england team round gerrard. Hed also have been the captain of england at about 19.
      “I dont need you i’ll just have gary barry and some other biscan type player and have gerrard maurading forward setting everyone up and scoring goals”
      Scholes is the type of player you appreciate if he plays for you team like firmino. A top top centre forward but you dont go round comparing him to thierry henry which is like what the scholes gerrard comparison is like.

  • @nanha1034
    @nanha1034 Před 6 měsíci

    Apart from Messi and r9 Rooney was top three

  • @alving4
    @alving4 Před 6 měsíci

    The fact he said he if you can't beat them you joined them 😂

  • @OurLegacyGaming
    @OurLegacyGaming Před 6 měsíci +1

    Owen made me reconsider who's the better all round player but if I was to choose as a centre mid it has to be Scholesy

  • @connorlynn9164
    @connorlynn9164 Před 6 měsíci

    Already seen this 😂

  • @philippevie3258
    @philippevie3258 Před 6 měsíci

    Not a chance

  • @brendanbishop3684
    @brendanbishop3684 Před 6 měsíci

    Ryan Giggs would run rings around Henry 😂 some great names mentioned, could argue all night.

  • @dondamon4669
    @dondamon4669 Před 5 měsíci

    Of course he was better than Rooney! Rooney bever done well for England or big games for united like Owen did. Owen always turned up

  • @realrockrolla
    @realrockrolla Před 6 měsíci +2

    Zidan chose Gerrard

  • @G.Singh7
    @G.Singh7 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Rooney lost a bit of his edge when he became captain

  • @itsinthetreesitscoming7431
    @itsinthetreesitscoming7431 Před 6 měsíci

    Ridiculous comparison at any age - Rooney was a vastly superior all-round footballer, Owen a better goalscorer.

  • @Leonmanc
    @Leonmanc Před 6 měsíci +1

    What about Zola cantona

  • @niallireland2940
    @niallireland2940 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Gerrard scored 1 prem goal more than scholes and he took pens , why does people always say that like 😂😂😂 the only way to judge it by asking the best manager in the world right now how they would have an we all know pep would have scholes in

    • @davidvarey5072
      @davidvarey5072 Před 6 měsíci +2

      no scholes had to retire from english team because he knew gerard and lamps was always going to be picked ahead of him

    • @BloodRedLFC
      @BloodRedLFC Před 6 měsíci +2

      Scholes will fit into Pep's playing style more than Gerrard (more technical gifted), while Gerrard will fit into Klopp's playing style than scholes (more atheletic) if you would like. That's why Pep will choose Scholes over Gerrard

    • @niallireland2940
      @niallireland2940 Před 6 měsíci

      @@BloodRedLFC who would you want to play for pep and win everything or kloop and dream of winning? Pep managed the best team to ever be assembled his opinion is better I think! And yes it’s true about England but what did they win ? If Gerrard was that good why did he have to move to accommodate a Paul scholes type player in alonso , was It coincidence that’s the only time he ever won anything worth talking about

    • @BloodRedLFC
      @BloodRedLFC Před 6 měsíci

      @@niallireland2940 Klopp also won everything possible at Liverpool too, with lower $$$. Gerrard best position is no. 10 behind a striker (Torres/Rooney) and I would play Scholes behind him as orchestrator with a no. 6 (like Keane). Too bad no England manager wants to play this way to accommodate lampard

    • @itsinthetreesitscoming7431
      @itsinthetreesitscoming7431 Před 6 měsíci

      and double the assists.
      but of course you didn't mention that....

  • @mr__OK
    @mr__OK Před 6 měsíci +1

    Gerrard best header? How many goals he scored with his head

  • @oLogicalYT
    @oLogicalYT Před 6 měsíci +3

    Okay I love Rooney but prime Owen 1000%

    • @oLogicalYT
      @oLogicalYT Před 6 měsíci

      Plus his daughter is hot!

    • @MechaMeister
      @MechaMeister Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@oLogicalYTayoo

    • @cheesecrackers522
      @cheesecrackers522 Před 6 měsíci

      No chance. Rooney best season scores more goals than Owen best, Rooney far more assists. Bear in mind, Rooney was an all round player, Owen a poor goalscorer, so Rooney having more goals tells you all you needed to know

  • @Imsoconfusedthesedays
    @Imsoconfusedthesedays Před 6 měsíci

    Remember that at club AND international level, mbappe has had LEGENDS around him. Owen didn’t. Not saying who’s better, but Owen had to do a lot more work by himself

  • @AndrewHawkes-uj5ux
    @AndrewHawkes-uj5ux Před 6 měsíci

    Rooney all day long !!