High-Density Fruit Tree Planting Don't Do It
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- čas přidán 10. 08. 2023
- I've seen only a few people successfully plant their fruit trees with high-density spacing and have long-term success. For this reason, I don't recommend people plant their fruit trees high-density. In this video, I talk about the best spacing for fruit trees.
If you have a yard and you are growing fruit trees I'd love to come and film, especially if you are in the South Florida area. You can contact me at paul@rawlife.com please include the area you are in.
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With all due respect to your views, high density techniques have been used for a very long time. It is very manageable no matter the age of the farmer. Not just mango but all kinds of fruit trees have been grown successfully this way. There are many videos on youtube for reference.
This guy's yard is amazing and looks very organized with healthy trees, I don't see the problem.
They look like they have plenty of room to grow.
Leave them, guy.
You're doing great! 👍
Thank you. 10 Feet on both sides of the tree is too close and he is asking for problems in the future.
I think your fruit trees seemed manageable except maybe the longan and mangoes.
@@FruitfulTrees too close only if he has very vigorous varieties of potentially large trees like Mangoes and Longans
@@FruitfulTreesbut these trees are still young. Give them some more time they will produce well. Does not matter if the trees are close together or has space .
@@FruitfulTreesand let the trees grow tall rather than wider. 10 years any tree will require to get matured.
Thanks for the good tips. I live in Israel and we typically have small plots. My plot is approx. 1/8 of an acre in which i grow 30 trees ( mainly citrus, avocado and mango) high density. 6 ft. Apart !!
I have to prune regularly, but it works pretty well. I get less fruit but it is sufficient for self consumption.
Keep on the good work. Thanks for your intresting videos.
This guy is great and mentally strong! So modest! To be honest, me at his age I would have reacted like a total asshole if some anonymous dude popping out of nowhere had approached me to lecture me on how I should plant my trees in my yard!
He is a very humble guy and I was just trying to help him.
My trees 10ft apart with no issues, harvest a ridiculous amount of fruit this year 👍🏼
I didn’t see the spacing problem 8/10 ft apart. I used the chain saw to trim my trees. Very fast . Put all the cuts around the trunks. Keep soil moist. Good fertilizer.
Brother to be honest his yard is fine as long as he prunes aggressively once a year. It will be fine. It's those that let their trees get big and not prune I would worry about.
I have trees planted 3-4 feet apart in many spots to get solid coverage. I love it.
planting any fruit tree that close won't work too long here in Florida in my opinion
I'm doing 5 feet for stonefruit. Have you tried citrus? Someone told me they are tip bearing so it's harder to keep them small.
We can do what ever we want with our property you take care of yours.
I live in a location with strong saline winds from the north during 4-5 months of the year. I planted as close as 2 meters and even 1 meters for some figs. THe idea being that each tree is protecting the other from the saline wind. I tried 3 years ago to plant with space, but nothing makes it. They just drop all leaves and restart in spring. This method along with some protection netting allows me to have my first fruit near the sea
I have high density as long as you prune they create a micro climate my trees are 10 feet apart
10' is plenty and the trees have a lot of room to grow. If he doesn't want to spend much time pruning, the trees will be fine. They may grow into each other a couple of feet but they will automatically stop growing wide into each other when they realize that there is no sunlight there. Trees go toward the sun. What really matters is that if you want to go high-density, there must be plenty of sunlight (and fertilizer) for all trees, which does not seem to be an issue in this orchard.
Hi paul from Australia love your videos, high density orchards have been experimented with quite heavily here with mango and other trees along with Tatura trellis. I have talked to farmers and the truth is it is more productive per acre but the amount of work involved is too high to maintain pruning is too much. I have mango and other trees planted at 15ft apart and I think this is too close personally I will do future plantings at 20ft
there is nothing wrong with high-density farming if you have the energy and most importantly knowledge to do it. Most people do not have the luxury of ample space and want to experience more varieties hence becoming a viable option. The aesthetics are just human perception less to do with the science behind a biosphere. If you have enough space go ahead as per your taste/book.If not either you purchase more land ( not an easy route) or go for high density as possible.
Great collection. Spacing seems ample to me. Mangos need regular pruning anyway for fruit production and disease prevention. Rollinia would love the low part of the yard.
I would hard prune the Philippine Mango and Longans and later move them to more open areas. Most of his other trees shouldn't be that difficult to keep small. 6 months out of the year they barely grow
Great yard Leo. You should be proud. Nice suggestions Paul.
I think his spacing is fine. To be honest it's his yard and he can do what he wants. Thanks for your videos.
Great video
There are some advantages in phoenix where we benefit from nurse trees due to our marginal climate.
The yard looks great, good start. Some of those are good spacing. Just the Longan and some of the vigorous trees. Peaches, guava, sugar apples can be pretty close.
He needs to organize better. You are correct some of those 10 feet is okay but the more vigorous he should move.
Why do you think it works on the West Coast such as with Dave Wilson Nursery to do High-Density spacing? He advocates for, and seems to have success with, 3-in-a-hole plantings. Is it due to the varieties that grow there or the climate/soil conditions?
Most of his work is on deciduous trees. The key for them is to prune in the summer after fruiting to set them back every year. It works on evergreen trees as well but works best on varieties that don’t grow too fast. You have to prune every year.
@@mwnemo Gotcha, that makes sense. Thanks!
You should watch some videos from shamus oleary. He has visisted many super high density backyard "orchards" in the Phoenix area. The forest doesnt grow with large spaces. Every spot with light has a tree and there are many understory plants as well. Plants dont mind being crowded.
I don't know about Phoenix but High-Density can be an issue here in Florida. The trees need sun to develop a good amount of fruit
Paul, raised bed or pollinators (flower) garden with FL native so that it increases fruit production in the drain field area.
Hi Paul, great video, I have a Logan and I plant in a wet area, do I need to plant somewhere else, I have from last year, it’s small grafted one 👍
Best to move them now. He has plenty of room. Good video
exactly the sooner the easier
Good tips Paul,that giant sugar apple he mentioned he wanted it would die here,also he should get rid of peaches and pomegranate,fruit is very low quality compared to the market .
Leave an area for annonas and leave your mangos 20 feet apart ,cool
Guy willing to learn ,not common. 👍🏻
I'll get on those avocado trees right away!
I think your guidance is good but the emperor lychee tree is a dwarf. It’s nice to have extra space and uniform spacing 👍
Hey Paul, I do understand your point of view on too close together when it was coming to your yard and what you were starting to think about it being too close. But you've also visited dr. Campbell's down in homestead where he's putting them eight feet apart, and he's kind of one of the pioneers of the high density planting. He's having great success and getting around 150 mangoes per tree as his goal. The only major difference I see is that he's trying to develop most of his trees as very dwarfed mango trees. So I guess my question is why have you taken such a hard stance in the other direction?
From what Paul says in this video, he has seen ppl who underestimated the amount of time pruning to keep trees small. But as Richard Campbell advises, don’t overthink when you tip or else it’ll slow you down. But I do agree with you and others who are proponents of ultra high density. I’m experimenting with 3’ for my 30 mangoes, 8’ for my 12 citrus, and 2 pairs of avocados 3’ apart.
Long term it is hard to maintain. You have to have the right trees to do it. Richard says some trees won't work in his yard for what he is trying to accomplish. I'll be making move videos about the topic.
@FruitfulTrees Yes, I agree with you and it's all my experiment. I am approaching it like vegetable gardening where I plant a bunch of seeds and pluck out the weak and non-productive plants. I have grafted lots of Zill varieties and don't know which will do well in my microclimate. Half of my young mango trees are low-vigor types and I live in a hot dry part of Hawaii so I think that will have a calming effect, lol. Keep up the good work, Paul. Aloha from Hawaii and pray for my friends on Maui.
I have my fruit trees 8 feet apart there mostly dwarf. Only ones that are not is my avocado and pink guava.
You should check out Tropical Central Valley youtube channel. He does high density fruit tree planting and it looks good. I would love to see you interview him too.
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Looks like a Simmons avo. What city/county is this? Property taxes must be insanely high if he just bought this unless he gets ag exemption. Beautiful place with tons of space
it's a seedling avocado
Can you post the video you have with leaf. Where is Leafs nursery ?
Lief 👍
leaph and yes i already posted several videos from his yard but will make a new one
@@FruitfulTrees I look forward to watching the new video
Can you suggest a good label
Even permant marker washes away
Aluminum tags work great. Also, use pencil instead of permanent marker. Counter intuitive, but you will be able to read the tags much longer.
Aluminum tags, marking with pencil ✏️ - good suggestions
@@greatergood3706 thank you thats a great idea
@@richardr5878thank you
best I seen is cutting a pvc pipe and putting a label from a label maker on it. They work well.
My trees are disgustingly close. Im talking like 2ft apart
“How many feet apart would you say those trees are?”
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Keep up the videos 👍🏼
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10 feet
9:18 mango, fertilizer burn I think..
Nice work! You can consider adding a persimmon or two for some late fruits. This is a good guide on getting started with persimmons: czcams.com/video/2fk1UFWKZME/video.html
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Paul you’re killing me man.
Paul, you're too judgemental. 10' is fine for a small yard. I think the place looks great. He knows he'll have pruning to do.
You can get away with 10 ft on one side but the way he has it they trees wouldn't have had room
Crazy commenters. As if I'm going to plant my mango trees 3 feet apart so they can share diseases and grow into each other and merge into a unitree. I'm giving a tree the space it naturally wants.
Mango trunk is massive