Wordpress vs Teachable/Thinkific - Which one is better to host online courses?
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- čas přidán 30. 07. 2024
- Learn what it takes to sell online courses with Wordpress and how it compares to course hosting platforms like Teachable and Thinkific.
Part 1: How to host and sell courses with Wordpress (00:00:22)
Part 2: Comparing Wordpress vs Teachable/Thinkific (00:07:23)
In this video you will learn:
- The 6 necessary tools to run your own online school using Wordpress
- Why CZcams is not the best tool to host your video lectures
- How Wordpress compares against platforms like Teachable and Thinkific
- A breakdown with all the costs associated to hosting courses on your own server with Wordpress
TOOLS TO HOST COURSES WITH WORDPRESS
Domain name → namecheap.com
Webhost → grumo.com/hostgator
LMS → learndash.com
Email Marketing → grumo.com/convertkit
Video Hosting → wistia.com
Automations → zapier.com
Payments → stripe.com / paypal.com
TOP WORDPRESS ALTERNATIVES
Thinkific → grumo.com/thinkific
Teachable → grumo.com/teachable
Kajabi → kajabi.com/
Podia → www.podia.com/
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Great video. There are many other reasons why you would choose Wordpress. For example, your comparison works if you just want to sell courses and can get rid of a traditional website altogether. If for example you also want to sell merchandise or other services alongside your courses, then you will still need a full website or combine even more plugins and integrations in WordPress. Also, you might live in a place where you CAN'T get paid directly by Teachable or Thinkific. So many escenarios. Or maybe you want custom made gamification. Again, this is a great comparison if you live like in US/Europe AND you don't need more online presence that the one Thinkable/Thinkific will provide AND you don't sell anything else. (One more thing is, if you sell B2B instead of B2C, you might still be better of with Wordpress).
Totally agree. It's a good option for short term but looking at long term business growth, Wordpress is still the most ideal.
Yes, thank you! Great point here and totally reminded me of my intentions behind my work and that I have other offers in addition to courses. Thank you. 🙏🏻💕
Also... you send your website traffic away to a 3rd party which really stunts the long term growth and optimization of your website. People can also find your online course so much easier if it's all on the same domain.
Amazing videos! I just knew Tony Stark has an online course.
Damn, this is insanely valuable! Thank you for this! Definitely going to get to working on my own course! 👍
Wow, so happy I found your video's, after going down the rabbithole for weeks, I finally find some confirmation and more explanation! Thank you for doing this, its from great value!
I'm glad you found this comparison video useful!
This is exactly what I was looking for, thank you so much for breaking this all down on that makes sense. Bravo great job thanks again!!!👏👏👏
Thanks for watching!
I really appreciate your videos - straight forward and very informative. Thank you!
That's great to hear. Thanks Cristen!
Thank you!! This is what I've been searching for! Super helpful.
Glad it helped!
Explained very well Migiel, NICE JOB!
This is the most straight to the point comparison. Gracias Miguel!
Thanks for watching Pierre!
The BEST videos and learning courses by far!! I have learned so much. Straight to the point and no waffle or "Check me, I'm the dog's bollox. I've made millions" ranting on, that so many idiots on here do. Keep up the great work! Thanks again. :)
Thanks so much for your comment Brian. It encourages me to keep making more videos. Cheers!
Excellent content! Thanks for the valuable information delivered in such a no nonsense fashion!
Glad you liked it! José!
Hey Grumo you are simply amazing. Thank for your advices and honesty
Thanks Jaime
Perfect timing, I came across this video, I was planning to manage everything on WordPress by myself, not anymore aa I am at a very initial stage of start-up I cannot effort these many labors hours, thanks GRUMO, you saved a lot of my time and money
Glad you found this!
Miguel you are an exceptional individual. Best video on explaining the difference. Heartily Thank you for this hard work you put in for us. Wishing you all the best in life.
Thanks! All the best to you too.
Great videos! I've learned loads in the last week. Thank you!
Glad you like them Lesley!
I have watched so many video… However your’s explains it all. Thank you for sharing all info.
Thank you!
Excellent video! Very well articulated on something that has been very muddy for me. Thank you!
Thanks for watching!
Thank you SO much. Have been looking for answers to this question for a while !
You're welcome Andrea
This was literally the best video ever! I wish I watched a year ago!
Thanks!
Thanks heaps for such a comprehensive coverage of this subject. Greatly appreciated.
You’re welcome!
This was very well put together. Thanks 😊 Liked, Subscribed and Downloaded 😃
Thanks!
Thank you for all of your knowledge here! VERY helpful. 🙏🏻
My pleasure!
Brilliant review! I just did a comparison before finding this video and ended up with similar costs.
Thanks!
Thank you, such a great and informative video! Very nicely explained and I'm now sure which platform I'll use :))
Glad to hear this video helped you choose a platform!
Just what I needed! Thanks a ton for the info! 🙏
My pleasure! Thanks for watching!
Soooo helpful! Well done and thank you so much for sharing!
My pleasure!
A very clear and well constructed presentation. Thanks.
Thanks Steve!
wow thank you for this very honest and detailed video and the cost comparison!
I also like the books on your background - only the color grading and lighting of your video could be better, you look a bit pale - but that being said I really like the information of your content!
Thanks for the feedback Max. I've changed the background since. Cheers.
Excellent video. Very thorough and helpful!
Glad it was helpful!
I enjoyed learning from your content, AMAZING.
Thanks!
Great content as always Miguel, saludos desde Ontario
Glad you enjoyed it Andy! Saludos desde Vancouver :)
I m searching for this topic for a long time , finally I got to see this video . This is awesome video, u are an amazing teacher . Liked , subscribed ❤️ thank you
Thanks!
Hi Grumo , I ve a question . Is it good to show the course price in dollars or in my currency ( INR ) ? thank u ❤️
Awesome! Really good explanation. Thank you :)
You're very welcome!
Awesome video!! Sadly, I learned that the hard way...😢Great stuff!
Thanks for watching Fran!
Very realistic! Thank you for your efforts!
Thanks!
Amazing and Simple!!!! THANK YOU!
You bet!
Very helpful, thank you very much!
My pleasure!
Wow ! good presentation !!
Thanks so much. Highly valuable.
Thank you for sharing this it gave me clarity 🤗
You’re welcome!
Which option do you prefer? Wordpress or a platform like Teachable or Thinkific? - If you want to see more tutorials on course creation, subscribe to this channel at grumo.com/subscribe
Part 1: How to host and sell courses with Wordpress (00:00:22)
Part 2: Comparing Wordpress vs Teachable/Thinkific (00:07:23)
Thanks Miguel , very useful.
What do you think of Thinkific website builder ? I don’t seem to be able to achieve a beautiful, professional looking landing page as in WIX , for example
@@albertot.8629 I really like Thinkific's website builder. I made an in-depth tutorial on how to use it here → czcams.com/video/BHXUyIZaiL4/video.html
Great video ! Thank you !!
Glad you liked it!
Very informative 👍👍
Superb work !👌
Thanks!
Really well done!
Thanks!
Very nicely done
Thanks!
Well explained - thanks
You're welcome!
Saves me a lot of money thank you
You’re welcome!
Thanks a lot for amazing video !! I really appreciate to watch this video cause I was exacly thinking what to use.!!
But some questions accured to me.
May I ask simple questions?
I want to use thinkific solution to build my homepage. But can I change my web host and video host if I want?
Because I live in Korea and I need to host korean server to affiliate payments with korean company.
And if i don't like thinkific web design, can I add my theme? or change plugin that I like?
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I appreciate again for this great video!
Super helpful! Does thinkific have a built in scheduling/calendar application like Acuity, or integrate with Acuity/other applications to help manage the scheduling of multiple classes with multiple instructors that may take place at the same time? If you have tutorials for specific apps I can watch those...
Hi Tina, as far as I know, Thinkific doesn't have a built in scheduling application. If you are referring to scheduling live classes, now Thinkific integrates directly with Zoom. This means, students could attend a Zoom class directly from Thinkific. The scheduling would have to be handled by a different app like Acuity or Calendly. Then you could integrate Acuity/Calendly with Thinkific using Zapier. I would have to know which exact workflow you are looking for to be able to create a tutorial that solves your specific problem.
With WordPress you have your own website with your own article and content that drives marketing.
You're 100% right, I just posted about this, thanks
Very cool video!
Thank you!
made my mind up thanks
Great!
Great Video, Miguel! How do you hang the books on the wall? Velcro?
Thanks Jeff! First, I tape them so they cannot be open. Then I use picture hanging strips by Command bought on Amazon. They are similar to velcro but to hang stuff from a wall and can be removed without damaging the paint on the wall. Cheers
Nice video. Thanks 😁
My pleasure!
Amazing video thank u
You're welcome!
Amazing!!!
Thanks!!
Thank you!!!
You're welcome!
Nice video, how about the fee that Teachable will take from each course sold?
Hi, Thanks for the video. What solution do you recommend if we would like to have a website that offers both learning and products, and also works as the company's blog website? Does the Teachable/Thinkific supports such a feature to sync and integrate with a Wordpress website?!
Hi Armin, You can create custom pages in Thinkific and a blog with Teachable but neither platform is design to function as a full fledge website/blog/store.
The solution would be to create your base website with Wordpress and then have links to your online school and your e-commerce store. The store could be integrated within Wordpress using Woo commerce, or you could have it in Shopify and link to it from your Wordpress site.
Good video. Can you further explain, how about using lms, such as moodle. What do you think sir? Is that ok?
Moodle is not designed to sell and market online courses so you couldn't use it to monetize your knowledge.
Is it true that when you upload your course to one of those platforms, the content becomes theirs? Meaning that if later decide that I want my own website with my course I cannot do it. Saw that on another channel
It depends on the platform but on Thinkific, Teachable, Udemy, and Skillshare you own the content not them.
@@GRUMO Good to know, that was the only thing stopping me from using them. Thanks!😀
Woww... Subscribed... I am a youtuber + udemy course creator. But now I want to have my own brand name. After hours of research, I found this great CLARITY giver video. Can you suggest me which one is best Thinkific or Teachable?? Thanks a lot again. I changed my mind from wordpress..
Thank you. I still use Thinkific!
How do I find someone to consult about how best to distribute some content I am producing? What do you even call the field of expertise you are speaking on? Ecommerce? I have questions I know you can answer and would gladly pay for your time if available. Great field of knowledge that you have there!
This topic is online teaching, course creation and course hosting. Cheers
Great video!
I have a couple of questions, it would be great if you could help.
1. If I were to use Thinkific to host my course, would it be safe from piracy? That is, is it safe from people being able to download or record my course videos?
2. I came across a life time deal for "Swipe pages" from appsumo and it says they provide hosting for upto 3 domains for lifetime. I am thinking about taking that deal and create a website with it and link to thinkific, my podcast etc. Do you think this would be a good approach?
Thanks in advance!!!
Thanks!
1. Piracy. Nothing uploaded to the web is completely safe from piracy. If some bad hackers really want to get to your data they will find a way regardless of where you put it. Having said that, Thinkific is very safe. The only people that could steal your content are the people that you give access to your school. That is your students. Anyone that has access to your course could possible be able to download your videos and repost them somewhere else. But this is true for any other hosting platform. Now, unless your course is super popular, it is very unlikely anyone will be interested in pirating it. If fact, one way to know you've made it is that people want to pirate your course. For 99% of courses the main problem is not piracy but lack of students.
2. Swipe Pages: I have never used them so I cannot comment. If it's a lifetime deal, you may as well give it a try and see how it works for you (and let me know after you try it!)
Great Video! I have one question regarding the teachable/thinkific option. My students are already login to my app, and I want to build some support videos for users. If I built them on teachable they still need to login to teachable (creating friction), but in wordpress I can directly send them to the course, right? Any idea how can I sort this?
Yes, can also implement OpenID Single Sign On (SSO) on Thinkific but only on the paid plans.
Thank you for this. What are your thoughts on podia?
I've never used Podia so I cannot comment. I've been using Thinkific for many years and I'm very happy with them.
great video
thanks!
What about Wordpress for something other than a course like a simple website to schedule meetings and accept payments and blogging? Would it be a better deal than other platforms like wix or squarespace?
Yes, for that Wordpress would be great. Wordpress is relatively easy to use and you can find thousands of beautiful templates and plugins to accomplish everything you mention.
Great lesson...thanks...Which video camera/web cam you used to record yourself here? It's high quality. I am searching for similar product.
Logitech C920
@@GRUMO Thanks a lot. How do you record the screen with yourself visible in the down right position. How do I do that? Any specific software?
@@drchandril I use ScreenFlow (Mac only). For Windows, you can use Camtasia. If you want cheaper alternatives, you can look at Screencast-O-Matic, Loom , or Recordcast.
what you are saying makes a lot of sense especially about the labor involved, let alone if someone like me is even struggling with Divi theme let alone wordpress without it. but I find Teacheable's rates for example are way too high for a new instructor and the 1st course. Perhaps once I have a few courses it would make more sense. For now writing 2 and decided so far to host one on Udemy (smaller one) and a bigger one maybe on Thinkific - they do allow 1 course for free, right? I don't mind paying a reasonable % per sale to the platform but a monthly fee seems a bit daunting now (since already so many monthly/ yearly apps at in the budget).
Yes. I use Thinkific. You can host one course for free with them. Best.
@@GRUMO yes thank you! You know, after paying for 2 years for a new hosting package and for a visual builder (divi) which I still was struggling how to use properly for non-course websites, WP has a learning curve on it its, I totally second your opinion & points made in this video. Unless you have a tech team/VA or are a tech pro yourself, as well as have a few types of websites, for a course business definately I'd choose a dedicated platform + create a landing page (whether on the platform or separately). Although I studied at a Russian therapy course at a school where they host courses with WP, it seemed ok, but they also have only 6 months access to the course and have a tech manager running it + FB group for some Qs & interractions, extra webinars.
Also wonder if you could make a video comparing pros & cons of Patreon for youtubers vs a membership club of some sort.
@@LifeinGlow Hosting on Wordpress only made sense when platforms like Teachable or Thinkific weren't available. I have the skills to maintain my own WP installation but I rather avoid the pain to do so!
good video
Thanks!
You are God Send to me, he answered my prayers by giving me your video. I am buying thinkific
I'm happy to hear my video helped you. Thinkific is a great option and I've been using them for over 6 years now. Best. Miguel
Does that mean, I don't need to have a website if I sell my course through Teachable
Correct!
Hi Grumo do you recommend learn dash
Yes but only if you want to self-host on your own server using Wordpress.
What's your view on using plugins such as Memberpress, Paid Memberships Pro, Learndash etc?
I think using plugins can help a bit but you're still going to have with maintenance, upgrades, etc.
So I've educational site similar to udemy where instructors upload the videos what i should choose and which hosting site i should go for i'm using currently gogeek of siteground is it enough or please advise
If you plan manage several instructors you could use Thinkific which also allows you to set up revenue sharing.
@@GRUMO is there is another option
I want to have my own site
@@sondosa.9051 I don't know of any solution to manage multiple instructors and video uploads from your own server. Most hosting companies don't allow you to upload video directly plus they don't have the capabilities to stream it either.
Hi Grumo, Im an American running a business and living in Amsterdam Netherlands. Are thinktific and teachable a good option for me as well or is that for North American businesses
Yes, they are both good including for all European countries.
Hello my fellow friend from the West Coast! Do you use LearnDash for any of your courses?
Hello! I don't use LeanDash. When I started teaching online in 2011, I used Wordpress with a plugin called Academy. Then, I migrated all my courses to Thinkific so I don't have to deal with all the tech stuff required to run your own online school on Wordpress + any LMS plugin such as Learndash, Sensei, Learnpress, etc.
Can you add LMS and add loom videos
You think kajabi is a good tool to start from scratch? Seems like a great tool instead of all the seperate parts from WordPress and learndash and active campaign. I'm only worried about the seo...
Yes. Kajabi is a great tool but it is also more complex and more expensive. However, it may be worth since it combines several tools into one. However, I personally don't use Kajabi so I cannot provide much advice.
@@GRUMO ok perfect. I just doubt between thrive suite and kajabi. Thrive suite costs so much more time I think to understand then I probably best start with kajabi... Only seo wise not so good. 😑😒🤔
Can you speak to the percentage that Thinkific and Teachable takes for purchases?
Hi Amanda, Thinkific doesn't take any fees per transaction. The fees are taken by PayPal or Stripe which are 2.9% + 30c per transaction. Teachable takes 5% on their Basic Plan and zero on their higher plans.
@@GRUMO thanks!!
Hi
Do you offer services on helping put together these courses or course set up
Not at the moment but you can find help at Thinkific Experts.
Great video but I go for WordPress any day.
Would you mind sharing, why you will choose WP? I'm still going for WP but just curious as well what others think and what's their resoning behind it.
Dont you loose a lot of good SEO, if you dont have everything on your company-page?
You can use a custom domain so all the SEO juice still goes to you.
Can you use the same courses on multiple different platforms?
Yes, you can.
@@GRUMO 8) Thanks
Thank you for the explanation I can understand. aaaaaaaahaaaaa...
My pleasure!
Can you promote your course in hotmart if you have thinkific?
Yes you can. Cheers.
@@GRUMO do you know what youtalk tv uses ?? They have their course on their website and have a web app that uses the same login as the webpage I think they use WordPress ?? Is wordpress the way to go with this ??
@@allanvelasco7247 I don't know that they used to create their native app.Their app could be simply their Wordpress site embedded inside the app. This could be done with a tool like Glide or Adalo.
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Thanks for sharing this useful info! Have you tried Learnpress, if so, what do you think about it?
My pleasure. I haven’t tried Learnpress so I can’t give an opinion.