iPad Pro vs XP Pen - WHICH ONE IS RIGHT FOR YOU?
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- čas přidán 27. 06. 2024
- Taking a look at the pros and cons of the iPad Pro 12.9 in and the XP Pen Artist 22 (2nd Gen) and seeing which one might be best for you!
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0:00 - intro
1:07 - iPad Pro (PROS)
3:05 - iPad Pro (CONS)
4:33 - XP Pen (PROS)
7:48- XP Pen (CONS)
9:58 - which one is right for you? - Hry
Thank you. I’ve been torn as I want a device I can use with Blender, Fusion360, and Shaper3d. Your overview is the one that truly helped me head in the right direction after trying so hard to figure this out. I want to design 3D stl files for 3D printing and also create digital art. Thanks for your help!
No problem! I'm really glad I could help : )
I have basic storage on my iPad Pro and I do paintings for 2 years now,file sizes for my paintings are huge and storage never was a problem
That's good to hear. I think the iPad Pros start at a higher basic storage than regular iPads or iPad minis, so I'm glad that's enough to handle that many paintings!
Great review, and as a plus, very calming. Thank you
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it!
Great video! I have the XP PEN Innovator 16 and love it! Love the channel!
Yo, thank you!
Glad to see another XP Pen user in the wild ; )
Thank you so much! It’s been a year since I started my research on this. This was very helpful. I believe, since I’m in the market for a new Mac, I may as well get the XP Pen. Thanks so much!
This absolutely helped me make the decision for which one to save up for. I want to illustrate on the go and have no desire for 3D models. Which means I’ll pay more but ultimately the iPad is the best choice. I have a smaller iPad but I want a bigger screen. Once I save up for the bigger one I’ll probably give my smaller one to my grandma for her to do small graphic design stuff in procreate and Canva like she wants to.
I'm glad I could help!
I think that's a great idea.
If you're on the go and are able to save up for a larger iPad, I think that's the way to go, IMO.
Plus it never hurts to gift your grandma an iPad : )
@@studio_fudelio that’s my plan is to save up. I’ll be getting a job soon so that’ll make thing easier lol
I use an XP-PEN 22e Pro on a cheap $35 arm mount which completes the setup. I can set it up as a second monitor when not in use and let it hover at an angle over my mouse when its in use. VESA is one of the most important features to me, and its only available on pen displays larger than 20in. I love using using for more complex projects with many layers. I can actually keep panels/windows open in my creative software while I work thanks to the screen size. Though you do need a decent computer to get a good experience with it, though that is more a fault of the software rather than the tablet itself.
I also have a M1 11in iPad Pro. I love it for its portability. Use it all the time for sketching and brain storming. I also like to use it for less intensive projects. If your a graphic designer, then working with typography is rough and slow on the iPad.
That's great setup.
I also find that some things are just harder to do on the iPad and I think that's why having both to use is such a great combination.
Thank you very much for the sincere review! :)
You're welcome!
I hope it helped. : )
So good thanks Yoo!!
IMO, Apple Pencil 2 is equivalent to the starter version of Wacom. They're great for photo editing but jerking when painting. Apple P2 needs to press unrealistically hard to get my chosen color. XP-Pen with Corel paint experience is surreal. It feels like you dip a brush in oil and run it across the canvas in real life, and the color is like oil on screen. It's the best digital painting experience.
I feel like the apple pencil is really smooth and has less parallax than the XP pen and even most Wacoms.
I do also really enjoy the XP Pen pen, though.
Maybe it depends on what software you're using, too.
Apart from a great review, I can see a vortex keyboard. Good choice as well. 🎉
Appreciate the kind words!
And haha yes >: )
Favorite keyboard I've owned.
funny. i also have an ipad pro and an xp pen 22. i bought both because i was not sure which one i would use. turns out i use the ipad for drawing and painting and the xp pen 22 for animation and 3D work in blender. the ipad does not have a vesa mount so it was difficult for me to get the ipad in the correct position where i could work for hours without neck or back fatigue. this was fixed by attaching a small board to an articulating monitor arm, then i used rubber bands to hold the ipad to the board. now i can get the ipad in the perfect position. at this point i still prefer procreate for drawing and painting over clip studio but maybe that will change eventually
Haha nice. That's basically exactly how I've been using them recently.
that xp pen mount wobbling while drawing would annoy me so much, also no touch features is a no-go, moving the canvas with gestures feels so natural
You can lower the mount onto the table to avoid any wobble, but I know how you feel. The stand it comes with is really good too, I just like being able to have my hand underneath the tablet for shortcuts, and it doesn't bother me that much.
I thought no touch features would be a deal breaker for me since I'm so used to my iPad, but there are actually some things that are faster/easier when using shortcuts with your non-drawing hand.
It's a bit of a give and take situation though.
What would you suggest now that the magic pad is out? It’s like an iPad but can handle all of the stuff the other xp pen could.
Nice! I have a surface go 3, which is like an iPad with windows on it! Ive been thinking about getting a larger monitor to draw on, like the xp pen one you reviewed in this video, but its to expensive for me yet.
Nice. I think the surface go series look cool, but I've never tried one for drawing.
I totally understand about these bigger tablets being expensive.
You can always look online for used ones if you want to try one out. Normally they have 13~16 inch Wacom/XP Pen tablets online for a pretty good deal if you're okay with it being used.
My first tablet was an older Wacom 16 that I got for about $250.
@@studio_fudelio they are a little slow, but if you want to use low power apps, their fine. I will look for some preowned ones! Thanks for the idea! I'll probably go the xppen route as I had a xppen deco mini seven previously.
@@lachlanart No problem! Glad I could help.
I'm really enjoying my XP Pen right now so I think it's a good choice.
Nice video. I’m thinking of getting this one or the Xperia pen artist 24 pro because it has 1140 p. Question for you: I can’t see small fonts, icons. Can you scale the UI on this device to make the menus, toolbars larger? To see the brushes, etc easier?
I'm so sorry I didn't see this comment! I work on an imac and I'm able to scale the UI, but I'm not sure if it's because of mac OS or the XP Pen. It might also depend on what software you're using. I use Clip Studio Paint for almost everything.
I hope that helps and sorry again for the late response!
would've loved to have this video when i bought my ipad pro but it still ended coming in handy for college notes and that kinda thing. btw do you have the links for the ipad accessories you use on any other video?
Thanks for the kind words! Wish I could've made it sooner to help out haha.
I don't have any links for the accessories but I can let you know that they are the Elecom paper-like screen protector and and Elecom ipad pencil grip for 1st generation (I use it on my 2nd gen pencil, it works fine. you just need to take it off to charge it.) And besides that, it's just the folio keyboard case for the iPad Pro.
I bought these here in Japan, so I'm not sure if you'll be able to find them where you live, but if you search for those Elecom products you might find something! Hope that helps : )
Would it be bad to own both?... I've had my I pad for 5 years now... Thinking of getting an upgrade but im still on the fence about it. Ive wanted to see how it would feel to draw on a bigger screen for the longest time now too, but im unsure of how to feel about not having access to a touch screen either.
Im also worried about using one more than the other at the end of the day... Im probably making things more complicated than I should. 😅
to keep in mind about usb-c, if you are running a desktop or laptop that has a gpu you cannot use the usb-c port as an additional display unless if its directly on the graphics card. or you get an extender and converter which does affect color accuracy. It works fine with apple systems due to their computers having only their integrated graphics on the cpu, unless if they specify otherwise in their pro lineup.
Thanks for making that point. I've only used it with Apple computers so far so I wasn't aware of that!
9:50 Another disadvantage, they're far not as portable as Android/Apple Tables. And since the Samsung Tab S8 Ultra, there is also a big option out there. Even though I would maybe have prefered the smaller s8+ one.
Yeah, portability is a huge factor.
I think a lot of people need to be able to travel with it or bring it around with them, so that makes Android or Apple tablets the better choice a lot of the time.
Sadly iPad Pro have great screen and fine hardware and cpu same as macbook, but you can't launch macos app's like blender or autodesk
Yeah, hopefully some day soon we'll be able to use Blender and some of those other apps on an iPad.
Excuse the typos: *xp pen artist 24 pro, *1440p. 😊
What is that software you write on it? Is apple pencil can write on xppen screen? I saw apple pen you use on it i think. And if i want to write on pdf on acrobat or foxit on windows can i use xp screen to write? With pressure sensitive of pen?
I use Clip Studio Paint for all of my drawing and animating. The apple pencil only works on the iPad, but the XP Pen tablet also comes with its own pen that is really good too.
You can use the XP pen to write on PDFs if you're just mirroring your computer screen, but I don't think the pressure sensitivity will work. I'm not 100% sure on that though.
Hope that helps!
Im still torn between them because im a beginner i want portable but at the same time i want the x pen feature like the 3d and other things that ipad doesn't have ? How can i get 2 in 1 ? Is there another brand ?
I feel your struggle.
Unfortunately, it's hard to find other fully portable all-in-one tablets that are capable of doing all that.
I haven't tried any other brands, but if you want the ability to do all those things, it's going to be very expensive no matter what T_T
Great video, I think to have both isn’t a bad idea 😉 if that’s possible?! thank you👍
Can you please tell me which arm did you use for the xp pen? Did you have any problems maneuvering it?
This is the product from Amazon: "Amazon Basics Monitor Arm, Single Display Type, Black."
I got mine from Amazon Japan, but it should be available in most countries!
It's been extremely solid so far and cheaper than some of the other arms/mounts out there!
I haven't had any problems maneuvering it around and I'm still really happy with it.
Hi there. I am looking for a tablet that will be compatible with the Krita I use on my iMac. Would the XP Pen allow me to do that? If not Krita - what drawing software would you say is a better alternative to use with the XP Pen? (Sorry - relative beginner here - was using procreate on my iPad but it got stolen and I'm trying to find second and alternatives - any help would be appreciated)
Hey there : )
You should definitely be able to use Krita on an XP Pen tablet because it would be hooked up to your computer and you'd be using it through that.
So anything that runs on your computer will work fine on an XP Pen tablet, especially if it's a Mac or PC.
I really like Clip Studio Paint as a software to draw/animate with, but there are plenty of other softwares to try out as well.
Tab s8 ultra can use krita , xp pen can use krita if you don't mind parallax,, which you really shouldn't .(I own Wacom 24 4k tablet and iPad pro )
@@PB1up thanks so much!
I will surely go with xp pen on that, but I wonder if 22 is too big, will 16 inches be a better choice?
I think 16 inches is fine for a lot of people, so if you're worried about the 22 in being too big, I'd go with a slightly smaller one. Full HD on a 16 in display will look crisper than a 22, too, so that's another plus side
@@studio_fudelio thanks for the replay! What do you think about the xp pen 16 pro gen2? It has 16:10 ratio and 2k, I couldn’t get it out of my mind even tho the price is out of my budget
Can you please review the huion kamvas pro 19
Where did you get the grip for your Apple Pencil?
I got this one from Bic Camera here in Japan. They also sell them on Amazon JP. Unfortunately, I'm not sure if it's sold overseas : /
Eventually, I would like to afford to have both. I have an iPad ninth generation it’s not great, but it does run some layers in procreate. I’m using my scholarship money for a new MacBook Pro laptop. So a pen tablet might be all right. I just wish there were something smaller.
XP Pen has some really affordable options for a 13 inch or 16 inch tablet if you're looking for something smaller : )
Even the Wacom One 13 in model is fairly affordable.
@@studio_fudelio thank you so much for your speedy response! I will look into those and who knows maybe they have a student discount ;-) I am really getting into 3-D modeling and animation. But I am not at the pro level so it’s really not worth it for me to spend so much.
@@evelynvongizycki1017
No problem! I hope you can find something in your price range, and don't worry, just having fun and getting used to drawing digitally is a great start.
what monitor arm are you using for your drawing tablet?
This is the product from Amazon: "Amazon Basics Monitor Arm, Single Display Type, Black."
I got mine from Amazon Japan, but it should be available in most countries.
It's been extremely solid so far and cheaper than some of the other arms/mounts out there!
have an xp-pen artist 12 with a 200 usd mini pc and a battery pack velcroed to the back, works great for drawing on the go not so much for 3d stuff because of the mini pc but on the upside it has no wifi so i can disconnect from the world and just draw.
dang nice. that seems like a good work around as long as you're not doing 3d or power intensive projects. and if it works for you, more power to ya!
Can you suggest me the mini pc you use, or a better budget mini pc?
I truly love minis, though i haven’t seen any artist with a mini pc...
@@aryanpriyotosh3699 MeLE Fanless Mini PC, Windows 11, Celeron N5105 8GB 128GB and a Baseus Laptop Power Bank, 100W Blade USB C Portable Laptop Charger for power i get about 4.5 hours drawing with clip studio paint with it on battery
I love the IPad
But How did use photoshop on it ?
I don't use Photoshop on my iPad. I use a software called Clip Studio Paint : )
Photoshop does have an iPad app now, but it's not as powerful as the desktop app.
Apparently, Adobe Fresco is a pretty good app to draw in on the iPad, but I haven't really used it.
iPad all the way cus psychologically I feel stiff compared to a portable device the whole time.
Yeah it's weird how different drawing on an iPad is compared to sitting at a desk with a tablet.
I kinda like switching back and forth, but I will say I feel most comfortable with the iPad cus that's more what I'm used to now.
Isn’t FHD(1920x1080) alittle lacking by today’s standard?
If you're used to working on a 4k screen or even QHD then it might be, but I didn't have any issues adjusting and barely notice, tbh.
I don't do work that requires anything higher than FHD, so it may depend on the person.
They also have 24" WQHD (2560*1440) and 16" 4K - so you can get hi-res if you ready to pay for this.
I hope they will add 120hz options too for smooth experience
@@Xenotester Yeah I think in the next coming years we'll see more and more options for QHD and 4K.
@@studio_fudelio they already have some hi-res models, but nothing with high refresh rate
@@Xenotester True. I also meant I just hope we'll see it being distributed to all the lower end and cheaper models.
Actually there is a shortcut to becoming a better digital artist. That is practicing with a piece of paper and an ink pen. For all you over sensitive types who are already triggered and defensive. Did I say never draw on digital? No! I said practice with paper and ink. Make yourself better by challenging yourself. Challenge is actually a good thing.......
This video isn't about becoming a better digital artist, it's about finding a digital tablet that works best for you, specifically between getting an iPad or an XP Pen tablet.
No one here is suggesting replacing traditional practice and fundamentals with only digital drawing...not sure where you're getting that from?
@@studio_fudelio Wow.....no reason to get defensive. I just mentioned that because you stated it "there are no shortcuts" in your video. Chill out......
@@ducksoff7236 I was just responding to your comment, I'm not being defensive. Sorry if you took it that way.
Me saying there are no shortcuts is the same idea as what you're saying about challenging yourself with pen and paper practice.
I think we're more on the same side of this argument than you might think.
Thanks for watching the vid. Not trying to get in an argument, just wanted to respond to your first comment.
@@studio_fudelio I agree we are on the same page. I was just making the point that the short cut is doing it the hard way because once you have that skill set digital is a breeze and you won't be a ctrl+z addict. Which is a huge waste of time and it limits you. For all you know you may actually like that line you put down later in the process.
One is a self enclosed tablet computer, the other needs a computer to plug into. How is this even a comparison?
Agree
That's exaclty why I'm comparing them. This is for anyone who's not sure whether one or the other may be right for them. There are pros and cons to both, so it's nice to know what you can and can't do with both of them before you decide to pull the trigger. I personally struggled with which one to go for, that's why I made this. I also mention all this in the video.
Samsung tab s8 ultra is better
I've never used a Samsung tablet before but that one looks pretty good.
I like the iPad because it's easy to share files and sync across my other apple devices.
Not for the artist, procreate is mindblowing. I shifted from Samsung tab to iPad.
@@studio_fudelio I use one of two Samsung tablets (S6 lite and S7 FE) with Krita across Android and PC if I see a need to draw somewhere a laptop would be...inconvenient (I could use Clip Studio on them in conjunction with the same app on PC but I'm allergic to CSP being subscription-ware on Android :D ).
I don't own any iDevices, and I have no trouble shuttling files via Bluetooth between those tablets, an Android phone, and several PC laptops, so that may be a potential avenue for those unwilling to tangle with the Apple ecosystem.
I grew up with non-screen tablets, and still use one with a Razer keypad (Tartarus 2) for shortcut keys. Before acquiring the two Samsung tablets, I had a Surface Pro 2 to experiment with onscreen drawing, but it died of video-card failure before I acclimated to drawing with it. (at least the SP2 pen works with Samsung S-Pen enabled tablets/phones).
@@RailRide Yeah, whatever works best for you : )
I've gotten so used to drawing on the iPad it might be hard for me to switch to a different fully portable tablet.
I prefer Apple's UI/UX in general for art stuff so that's why I stick with Apple but I know a lot of ppl don't want to be a part of the Apple ecosystem. That's why I think XP pen and some of these other companies are awesome cus they're giving ppl other options at an affordable price.
Thanks for sharing your setups, though!