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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 19. 12. 2019
- Charlie introduces George to an old family heirloom, a 1972 Jaguar XJ12 Series 1.
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This clip should be called "Two gormless dills and an incredible car that they will never understand"
Yes, his mate is the worse one out of the two. Should of been put aside at birth.
Well said.
Could agree more they don't have a clue.
This car is legend and one of the most beautiful saloons ever made - you didn't seem to appreciate it though.
Agreed Frederik. These idiots don't deserve such a car
Pair of dumb 'snowflakes' I'd be ashamed if they were my kids.
My Uncle had one of these, in fact he had three. I love these and think that they are the most pretty saloons ever made....especially the Series III.
I must admit I cringed at watching this. Someone educate them and quickly!
Agreed. Painful to watch.
"no one wants a V12 5.3 litre saloon" ; err, excuse me. I want it. That is totally gorgeous.
But...but...hOw BoUt ThAt VoLVo
The running costs are massive though, 15 mpg if you're lucky for starters. If that's not a problem to you then I agree, but the XJ6 4.2 gives you most of the same performance as the V12 (though maybe slightly noisier) and is cheaper to run.
@@Treviscoe
"The running costs are massive though"
- No they're not. What the depreciation on this ? Zero or negative.
"15 mpg if you're lucky for starters"
- Compare that against the depreciation of a new Focus.
"If that's not a problem to you then I agree"
- It just isn't a problem.
"but the XJ6 4.2 gives you most of the same performance as the V12 (though maybe slightly noisier) and is cheaper to run."
- 4.2 still gives shitty consumption but again, the fuel costs are negligible really.
Me too.
Horrified by the attitudes of these two, but heartened by the comments
The bland generation sadly
Disgrace for these lads to be in proximity of this legend
Yeah...that lovely car deserves to be around more civilized people.
This guy does not realise how lucky he is his grandfathers car and the family still own it and what a car .
At least the dad had class and knew beauty when he saw it, great car I hope it doesnât get left to anyone in this video, someone more deserving should get it.
Jesus, what a dull pair. The Jag however......................purrrfect.
Would love a review of that car with Henry !!
I only clicked this because I thought it was Henry in the thumbnail.
Or HubNut.
Less mockery please chaps, that was the finest saloon car money could buy in its day. So good in fact that they were still building the V12 in Series III form in 1992 and finding buyers. With a little TLC I would be glad to swank around in that, sable brown or no.
trouble is, it wasn't. Sorry if that blurs the Brex-way specs, you myopic british nationalist.
@@cmddelete2169 For 1972 (which was about when this one was made), it didn't have much competition apart from the Rolls-Royce Silver Shadow, the Mercedes-Benz S-class and the Jensen Interceptor and it was considerably cheaper than all of those.
@@cmddelete2169 Trouble (capital at start of sentence) is you weren't even there and saw something that was not Brexit related at all, that still snagged that huge chip on your shoulder!
Seriously get some help and evict Nige from that space he owns in your Cranium.
There was some Scottish geezer in the early 80s Who though he could take a engine-from a road going car from over a decade ago ! And tune it and pop over to Le Mans to race it ! The rest is history ! Think he won 3 times ?
Are the muppets even interested in cars ?
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"Hopefully we'll be able to make more films like this"
- Hopefully you won't.
What a beauty. What an absolute bloody beauty.
I hope this wonderful, rare and incredibly original classic one day finds an owner that cares and understands.
If the grandson is "Charlie," he might be the wrong choice for a family spokesman when it comes to cars. Cranking the starter as long as he did at the end of the video is a great way to fry the windings in the starter motor. Also, regarding the question about a noise when he slammed the door at the end there, there are two air-pressure relief "valves" (flappers) that release the cabin pressure into the trunk (boot) when the doors are closed. You can hear them make a bit of a noise as the door closes.
We had an '86 Series III 4.2 Liter 6 cylinder for about 12 years. It was a beautiful car inside and out, black inside & out with polished alloy wheels. The previous owner had taken excellent care of it and my wife loved her 10th Anniversary present.
They are called quarter lights - not smoking windows - if my old grey cells serve me right. Love the XJ12.
That's in great condition for a 50yr old car...lovely..đđŹđ§
Why all the sarcastic nasty remarks? Sell the car to someone who deserves it....
That guy does not know what choke is
Spot on!!! It was like putting a fine Pearl Necklace on a Pig & watching it roll around in the mud, before the other Swines in the sty rip it off its neck & start chomping away on the Pearls cos they think they look good enough to eat!!! There are so many good videos on these great cars & their fabulous engines & incomparable ride quality on CZcams, but this clearly wasnât one of them!!! Who treats their late grandfatherâs prize possession as if it were a piece of rusty old metal thatâs no use to anybody at the bottom of grandadâs back junkyardâŠ? I had a Series III Daimler Double-Six Vanden Plas with the redesigned High-Efficiency Combustion Chambers that reduced the engineâs fuel consumption by 25% without any drop in its maximum Power & Torque Output, which by the time the Series III succeeded & superseded this Series II model was generating a much higher 300BHP @ 5,200 RPM & 318ft 7:09 -lbs of crankshaft-turning force at 3,000 RPM, & with 75% of that readily available from just 2,000 RPM! And did so with such refinement & panache, in what was officially the worldâs quietest engine until the end of its production run in 1992. These Clowns obviously know nothing about the history & development of Automatic Transmissions, but even by the first Automatic Gearbox in the world didnât come out until the early 1980âs, which in the Mercedes-Benz 500SEL/500SECâs 5.0 Litre V8 engine with a Maximum Power Output 231BHP only made use of the 1st & Lowest of 4 Gears under Full-Throttle Acceleration Kickdown conditions, meaning that it was essentially a 3-Speed Auto Gearbox under most driving conditions. The gearbox this car was the venerable GM400 Auto-Box, which was chosen bcos it was the only Automatic Gearbox that could handle the XJ12 & XJSâ 300 horses & 318 ft-lbs of torque at the time this car came out, & for at least the following 10-15 years. Which is why it was also fitted to the 200MPH Vector W2 Twin Turbo 800BHP producing 7-Litre V8 Twin-Turbocharged Engine!!! And as for their lack of knowledge of what a Choke Button is for, that in the case of this particular car which hadnât been driven for ages, took them 52 seconds to start up, by the time the Series IiI came out fitted with an Automatic Choke (so no need for a Choke Button) would make the engine in my car come alive in a matter of a few seconds even in the coldest & wettest conditions, even after Iâd left iIâd left mine without turning its engine over for a whole year!!! And as for the notion that âsometimes when you floor the throttle nothing happensâ, they should try giving the car its long-overdue service to see what itâs capable of when in itâs not all clogged up with oil thatâs years past its use-by date, bcos when I use to floor the accelerator pedal in my Jag at around 30MPH, there wasnât a car on the road that I ever came across that could outaccelerate it!!! It was more like a Kick in your Back than a kickdown, & could even outperform my much smaller Renault 5 GT Turbo when its Turbocharger finally kicked in & sent the small car flying!!! Finally, as far as the headrests on the front seats that they describe as useless, thatâs the way all Luxury & Sport Cars that even had any looked like, bcos their purpose is to stop you from breaking your neck in a hard crash as you bounce back, as well as stopping the rear seat passengers from flying forward & breaking your neck in the opposite direction with the force of a charging elephant!!! Besides, Iâd be very surprised if their carâs headrests couldnât be quickly & easily adjusted up & down for height. Show me another 4-Door Luxury of Sporty Saloon that could easily exceed 150MPH despite its 3-Gear Auto Gearbox in the 1970âs & 1980âs, & Iâd be Amayonaised, cos as far as I know there simply werenât any around in those halcyon days. The only slightly lighter XJS Coupe could easily reach 155MPH. No BMW or Mercedes-Benz could do much more than 140MPH even long into the 1980âs⊠And neither could they match its acceleration, despite their late 80âs 4-Speed Electronic Auto Boxes with the option to select âSportsâ Driving Mode on them. So WTF are these fools laughing atâŠ???
Starting by judging the cars colour with some level of disgust......while wearing the same colour jackets.
We couldnât find our sable brown jackets.
Bummers. They are used to Brown.
Hypocrites.
Exactly agree with previous comment
Sheâs a beautiful cat and needs to be appreciated for all itâs glory
When this car was released in the summer of 1972, there was a 2 year waiting list, which at the time was slightly longer than that for the XJ6. The idea of introducing the motoring public to the delights of 12 cylinder cars was significant. It is sad that both these presenters are so laughingly dismissive of what is actually an important part of British motoring history and also dismissive what is in reality a very beautiful car.
It was also arguably the best car in the world back in the '70s.
Slating a bit heavy lads...& comparing a 1972 Jag to a 2019 Volvo bhp??? I donât see to many 1972 Volvoâs with anything near over 200 horses...đł
Who are these two clowns? Lovely car, foolish âreviewâ.
Looks better then most modern cars of today, and it will turn heads!
S1 V12 saloon...
Best car in the world back then.
A dream car of mine. I have had a couple of S1 XJ6's. I did find an XJ12 but it was horrible so I didn't buy it.
It looks in pretty decent condition. Why didn't you drive it?
They don't have driving licences!
@@martinmcdonald4207 They deserved that one. Well done!
Got to ride in one of these once, I was really impressed by how wonderful the suspension was and it was whisper quiet even when accelerating to very high speeds. Truly a luxury ride.
One day I'll buy one of those and put it in the middle of my living room just to look at it.
A man after my own heart
Can I come and look too đ€đ
Slow starting and sluggish until warn, because carburetors. When that appeared on the market it was the most amazing car this side of a MB 300SE 6.3. Please let Henry do a full test. Perhaps have the suspension checked out first though. I am envious.
If I may ask, what made you mention checking the suspension? Did you spot something in the video?
@@b_mb4948 Just that it was mentioned that the car rolled a lot. The dampers may be weak or the bushings could be worn due to age. It's no sports car but they did handle quite well. May be worth a look.
A wonderful unrestored example though.
Octane compared the two cars and preferred the XJ12 (well, Daimler Double Six as there's was).
@@varsas10 The Jag is certainly the better luxury saloon. The Merc was more of a hot rod. Both very good in their own way though.
Love these old Jags, the mk 2, the mk x and these xj's. Made when cars were mechanical devices and not electrical appliances.
Entirely gorgeous. Look how well it sits on the road. Still...
I put one of those engines into a Dax Tojeiro Cobra replica many years ago, tuned up to 350 bhp and capable of 500 bhp quite easily. Huge amounts of torque. A disappointing video - I expected something different from the title but instead got two lads giggling and being dismissive about an interesting car that needs some TLC.
Do you know there is a chock lever to the right side of the dash ????.
Stewart Lundy choke was pulled, but happy to admit I ran the starter for too long!
As a kid my dad has a series 2 Daimler Double Six VP. Loved that car.
Dream motor!
@@wilburchubsMy Poppa spent about 10 years doing a light restoration on it. Ever since then my love of all things Jaguar and the series 2 XJ or XJC .
My first jag was xj12. I was 20. Finest production saloon car in its day. Quiet fast and luxurious. Had 4 v12 jags now. Nothing comes close to the superb v12.
That ended nowhere. Bet that Volvo will be around in fifty years, cough.
The circus called, they want their clowns back
Do the decent thing and hand it over to Henry Catchpole to review a drive of it, the car deserves it
thats a proper Jaaaag
This car is a legend when British cars were tops a beautiful x j series 1 never should be forgotten
Old is Gold
You two don't know how to properly appreciate a fine car
So classy beauty!
Incredibly beautiful car.
Lads that car is absolutely beautiful, i'm 34 & i'd buy that any day. Don't ever sell it.
Bracing self for starter motor comments. Bring it on.
Charlie B Rose đđ
This video and presentation is better than a lot of other car videos on CZcams, including this channel!!
I yelled at the TV. Then again, I used the starter on my Volvo 240 to drive it up a trailer ramp, so...
That starter motor is wildly unappreciated for its good work
love it. It is great to see new shiny cars, but it is even better to see older vintage classics. Keep up the good work.
It sounds like it's not firing on all twelve when you start it. I suppose that could be down to flooding because you help the starter for so long. Those 5.3 litre V12s (or at least the ones I've encountered) have been fairly prone to flooding on startup, especially when the operator possess little finesse or when the cars are not used enough. The Stromberg CD (150 or 175 I can't remember) don't respond well to sitting for long periods, especially if the fuel being used has a more than 5 percent ethanol content, at best. If you had any class or taste you would understand that the charm of the car is not in the performance (although it was superior to most cars of it's price bracket when it was new) or the statistics, it's the fact that it is just a fantastic, comfortable, stylish, quiet and ver competent motor car. Besides, the torque delivery from the 5.3 V12s, even the carburetted ones, is something totally unique to the car, it's simply fantastic. You two need to grow up and stop hating on a fantastic car just because it is older than your Jap Crap.
I don't get why they are making fun of the "sable brown" color. That non-metallic color is coming back. It was, and still is, an awesome color.
Jaguar in them daysâ The car was flashy enough for the customers !. customers would not want to be sticking out in the crowd that much ! So customers could pick the colour !
Not so Loud ! Did not need a flashy colour the car was already flashy enough for the customers at the time !
Amazing classic Jaguar.
Lovely car.
These chaps are as dull as the Jagâs colour. Whereâs Henry gone?
The colour is classicly understated, these two are trash.
i was waiting for the drive!
Imagine how they would react to a rotary phone. Sigh. Lol
Your talents lay behind the camera.
The Jaguar is so much cooler than the Volvo.
Beautiful car. But ruined by your dismissive and critical comments. Giggles at lack of central locking?? Not really very good
Yep, appalling, they just did not get it, god knows where Carfection dug these two up from, zero respect for this classic car, comparing the power to a brand new car, well really, how shocking, a modern car with more power than one from the early seventies. giggle, giggle like a dumb teenager girl who has just seen a picture of a penis. Pathetic, especially considering the quality of the other journalists on this channel. Back to making teas and coffee for the proper reviewers for these two. :)
Rob George Do you really think weâd keep an unreliable, difficult to maintain Jag that holds very little value unless we loved it? Itâs brilliant, and weâll continue to enjoy it in our own way. So sorry if that offends you. By the way, weâre not journalists on this channel. We shoot and edit the content day-to-day, but weâre good at making tea too.
@@RobG001 I enjoyed the tone of this video.
The guys were reverential enough but also playfully looking at it through their generations eyes.
It was fun.
Suggest: recalibrate your critical faculty & watch again.
@@charliebrose3000 'unless we loved it'. Could have fooled us!
@@charliebrose3000 To be fair it wasnt so much you but more you were letting the other guy get away with sneering at and criticising the car and went along with him. I dont know why he's involved in a car channel.
I see so much of the 2010-2019 XJ in this one. The lines, tail lights, grille, bonnet, stance.
Beautiful car! đđ
Love it.....needs some love
Never run a starter for that long. 15 seconds max I'd say, then leave 20 seconds, then try again. Interesting classic video other than that bit making me wince with mechanical sympathy
I like Carfection, I like it a lot, the quality of this offering was so below par that I thought I had be redirected to the idiot zone. The XJ might not be perfect but it has class, style and enough performance to still excite today. the coupe even more so. I had a 2.8 swb with a plastic interior {Jaguar called it something else but it was plastic} went on too two more both 4.2s, fitted them with early aftermarket electronic ignition never a problem, did 50000 in one 42000 in the other and felt pretty special on each journey never a complaint from a passenger and the performance always made me smile, lets hope this offering from Carfection is not going to be the stuff of things to come, Petrolicious has also turned out some below par stuff lately so don't bother watching them anymore.
Finally! A Sable-colored Jag! My 1970 Series 2 XK-E was Sable, and it was gorgeous. Not in a flashy way, but quite the opposite. It was the ultimate sleeper, non-descript in appearance until you took a second look, and then, wow!
So cool
I can't believe I fucking watched that to the end, I want my time back
Just bought a S1 XJ6,Sable......Would love to do a review and DRIVE the V12,had a 6ltr Daimler Double-Six a few years ago.awesome car
These are great cars. These guys are nerds.
A couple of 'snowflake gays' '.
Not nerds......DORKS!
No. A proper car nerd would love to have a go in a lovely old XJ12. These two boys are idiots who don't understand what these cars are all about.
Lovely car, I'd love one of these as a weekend car.
Absolutely brutal. Made it through a minute 34 before throwing in the towel. Nice car though.
I love it
Loved the description of the mud flaps as cornering regulators.
Sir William Lyons had an XJ6 in the same colour as his personal car - it's still in the Jaguar collection (I've sat in it!) :-)
Such an elegant car , especially from the front , hard to believe it was the finest car on the road when it was first released back in 1968 and the style stayed much the same for 40 years , there are so few series 1's left , it doesn't help that they are popular for banger racing !.
What a beast. Drive it now!
Education system failed miserably. A masterpiece car.
Was expecting a decent video. One of the cars I'd have in my dream collection and the best car in the world in its day. Please don't do any more videos.
Series 1 XJ12s are tricky to find these days as there so little left on the road but I wouldnât say itâs out of reach. When they do pop up theyâre not too expensive. Itâs the constant maintenance thatâll burn a hole in your pocket. Sorry you didnât like the video.
Charlie B Rose What constant maintenance? If it was a Ferrari would you take it to a back street garage? I bet this beauty hasnât only had V12 specialists working on it. If treated properly the engine will run like a dream. They require no more maintenance than any other car, theyâre just fussy as to who they like working on them..
My dad owned one of those.....DFN 710K.........was a quick car back in the day.
Super cool
Your dad is awesome....!!! that v12 looks very clean... :-)
I Wouldnt be Surprised if the Jag turned out to be faster than the Volvo tho...
Take this car over a modern car anyday.
for your benefit... and my experience of getting a v12 xjs running. Your symptom is what I now understand to be a classic "crap in the fuel tank problem. The tanks on the xj saloons are a bit of a pain to remove ... but they need removing and cleaning of all the old fuel that will have collected in them. I used electrloysis to clean my tank up. Then the fuel lines want blasting and cleaning through, a new filter and probably the carburettors cleaning (I think this will have carbs). The fuel lines in the engine bay will need replacing because when you do get it doing they will likely perish and leak. I would put a tenner that this will solve the running problem and hey presto you will then find the real enthusiasm for this v12... it is super smooth and very very impressive on the road.
These two have not got a clue, that three speed auto was beautiful silky smooth gear change they forget bhp is not speed the torque from this engine was great. That made it move
What about the Georgeous E type in the garage too?
Interesting the pre-HE v12 had a red line approaching 6750rpm. The HE I think redlined before 6000. It's amazing it's still in such good condition 48 years on considering your (lack of) interest in it! Hard to believe but it was at the time the fastest 4 door saloon in the world with people clocking 130-140mph average speeds across europe in it (doing sub 10mpg in the process). This was only 5 years after it was a big deal doing those speeds in a Lamboghini Miura that cost over 5 times as much.
Hi Charlie !!!
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Wasn't the car the fastest 4 door saloon in the world at the time ???
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I am sure that the official top speed was 153 mph !!!!
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Such a fantastic car !!!
If I remember correctly, they took a whole lot of cars to a test track in Italy with banked corners and it still was the fastest standard four door saloon in 1983! The only competitor was the Quatroporte but in true Italian fashion it threw a belt and that was that. The guy that drove the Mk.III HE claimed it was purring along nicely like it could do it all day. No drama at 245 kmph.
@@buggerall Many thanks ... I was right that the rumour was they would hit 153 mph way back in the 70's
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I think the tyres were off an aeroplane lol
At the very end, the noise coming from the boot area/rear windscreen when the door was slammed is called "the cowbell" and it's just something old XJ sedans do -- under the rear parcel shelf is an air extraction box with metal flaps in it that had foam insulation that's probably disintegrated from age allowing metal to metal contact now. When you slam the door the air pressure spike makes the metal flaps pop up and then clatter back into place and make that cowbell noise. It's "fixable" but the amount of disassembly (taking out rear seat, insulation panels, working around the sunroof cables/motor, etc) is not worth it just to avoid a little tinkle-tinkle noise when you shut the door.
Australia's most prized muscle car in the Ford Falcon GTHO Phase 3 of 1971 actually held the title of 'Fastest four door sedan in the world' but only Aussies and Kiwis have heard of them. It would out drag the Jaguar XJ12 down the quarter mile but top speed was a similar 140mph. A Phase 3 can change hands in Australia for A$1,000,000 today, probably 40 times as much as an XJ12 would sell for here. Not at all having a go at the Jaguar XJ12, absolutely love Jaguars, very beautiful machines.
my misses owns a brown astra G... it's, imho, one of the best colors that car came in
No test drive? Well that was a huge anticlimax!
Very nice XJ. The series 1 is my favourite... Same colour as Sir William Lyons' personal XJ6, too! Everyone loves the MGBs and E-Types, but not many people seen quite so enthusiastic about the old XJ, pity.
As someone else in the comments mentioned, I would also love to see Henry's take on it at some point!
_P.S_
There is no need to slam the doors.
race car cold start!đđȘ very nice car hope you guy's still own it.
Get these clowns of the channel - gorgeous car though.
I cry when I remember what I sold my series 1 V12 for. What ide give to still have it today
Anybody just think of Draguar from Roadkill? If you don't know it has a hole cut in the bonnet for a supercharged Chevrolet V8
That was the best ducking jag out there at the time. Is it still running?
nice
Nice idea - but a bit more appreciation for automotive history would have been nice. Maybe stay behind the đ„ Charlie đ đ
I'd take the XJ over that Volvo any day!
One of the most legendary car designes EVER, and with the amazing V12 (not running on all by far though)
This two are so funny
My dad had a xj6 brown 1975 series ll