So...Harman Made A New Color Film.
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- čas přidán 30. 11. 2023
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This is a punchy, colorful stock with a ton of character. There's nothing quite like it. If you're strictly a pro film photographer, this isn't for you. But if you want something a little less conventional (the negatives are purple!), give HARMAN Phoenix a shot.
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This is how a film review should be like.
thank you! this team did a stellar job!
Noelle nailed it with her images! They came out excellent.
The fuck do you mean? They look like absolute dogshit. As does pretty much any other example picture on this page by the way; the findlab has "photographers" who know absolutely nothing about taking a picture.
Whatever they do to update/upgrade it, I hope they keep the reds. 😍
its killer yeah?!
Great video and production to theFINDlab staff -- you've all come such a long way of getting and producing and voicing the message and the content -- this is huge for you all ... a crazy major step for the firm. Great work -- take the rest of the day off... :)
Thanks so much! We're going home early today for sure. lol
Wow, loved Noel's work
I had a lot of fun seeing the shots from my first roll of Harman Phoenix. I'm in the middle of my second (which I'm pulling). And now that I've seen your vid I def want to take your notes and shoot a couple more. Thanks so much for this!
the findlab does it again!
I really love the look this film can give under certain situations - magical! Good on Ilford/Harman for being ballsy I hope they continue to make it ❤
Such a fun review, love it!
Amazing review. The name is very fitting. Color film that’s risen from the ashes. And it has the signature look of highlights on fire and charred shadows. Can’t wait to shoot it!
This channel is so dope. Thanks yall.
Great video! You Guys are amazing
I just saw this video in my feed. Interesting results between all the photographers. I have yet to schoot this film. You mention anamolies. The latest version of Lomochrome purple has these dots on them. I have not schott any of the lomo purple yet but bought 3 rolls of the Turquoise.
I've been looking for films for that cross-processed slide film lomo look. I've used Ektachrome (same purple base!) & Agfa slide. This nails it. I DON'T want them to change this! Shut up & take my money! Order placed. Great video by the way. Do more like this!!
I mean, they explicitly said they're going to change it a lot. So you should probably order like multiple bricks in that case while you can!
@@gavinjenkins899 I did! I ordered 15 rolls! Shot in Sydney around mostly Luna Park. I really want to get it developed soon.
Best Video on this film so far👍
Best results from this film
Lets Go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I heard the iso is closer to 120. That’s pretty interesting
At some point a film manufacturer needs to turn the ISO thinking on its ear. Instead of coming out with a 400 version or 800 version try 50....or 25...or even 15. Go where digital can't! Sound crazy? In 1959 the vaunted Kodak Kodachrome had an ISO (called ASA back then) of something like 12. In the early '60s they had a crazy fast version - ISO 64! I'm confident that if someone serious like Harmon or Kodak comes out with a 25 speed film with the characteristics that value implies there will be an absolute rush to buy it. Wedding/portrait photographers, in particular, will stand in line.
The film reminds me of Agfa in the 1960's. Probably more grain, but the contrast and striking reds is very much like those early Agfa slide films. I much preferred Agfa to Ektachrome or KJodacolor, back then, although I also loved Kodachrome.
I can also see the resemblance to Lomography. I definitely like the grain. Grain gives texture.
Good film for artists.
Super cool, it's very punchy and edgy. Definitely stoked that there's new color coming out that's unique and experimental!
Phoenix is apparently chemically rated at 160 (GainyDays did an interview with their R&D department), I've seen people pulling it one-stop or just shooting at 100. edit: lol sorry, I commented before finishing your review and getting to the part where you reco this exactly!
wtf! Noelle has taken the best photos I've seen on phoenix!!
I have seen so many different looks with this film on youtube so far. It seems that a lot of your final look is in how you scan it. And what scans it. Flat bed scanner to camera or
noritsu scanner .
it has been so many years since we had 135 film. I‘m wondering if there are any ways to making the production of it a lot cheaper. Maybe with different chemicals, but also materials..
I‘d be surprised if those limits for price and quality were already reached with the film thats available now..
Well done, a great review. Im looking forward to trying this film and just ordered 5 rolls. My guess is that this will give wacky results with an LC-A.
I’ve gotten xPro results from just Portra in an LC-A… how much more with Phoenix!
This might be something you say later in the video, but Analogue Wonderland's blog post about scanning Phoenix says they had far better results scanning on a Noritsu instead of Fuji, and that ideally it should be shot at 160 ISO/ASA because Harman only put 200 on the box because not all cameras have a 160 ASA option **Edit**: ah yep you did!!
Question: how did you adjust scanning for the film stock color? Purple isn't what your average scanner is calibrated to.
I wish they made it in 5x7 sheets. The higher contrast looks like it would be fun to print it in salt, which wants higher contrast than silver-gelatin printing.
i think you white balance on the blank negative area
on the frontier when I scanned my roll I maxed out on blue and cyan to compensate for the red and yellow and density was added as well.
Just want to say - great production and editing on this video. Really enjoyable.
Having said that - the results from this film look fairly bad. It's a first shot and they will improve it, which is great, so I commend them for the initiative!
it's about managing expectations. This is a experimental consumer film. And with that title, they did great. If they said, this is a pro color neg film, we'd have problems :)
This is marketed at the ' funky photographer ' end of the market, where young trendy photographers want to get their feet wet in the sea of film. Coming up with new colour film is no small task nor is it cheap, so kudos to Harman whose factory is only a 15 minute drive for me.
Exactly! Kudos Harman, kudos!
try shooting a colorchecker to calibrate... your sets from origin assumed a start 50red .. that is what paper assumed from 1948 --. 90s when your scanners were designed
Am I the only one distracted by his nail colours?
ha that's a you problem :)
It has a cool personality so far. WTGHarmon Thanks for this great video.
don't forget adox is also coming out with their own coated film. color mission 200 was exactly the same idea as Phoenix, selling first rounds of film to finance the R&D. And altho color mission is (or at this time, was) a much better film, Harman has much better resources than adox, so it will probably get better faste
color mission is older film stock. not new
color mission 1 is an old ish (early 2010s from what i can gather) freezer stock with very cryptic origins however my guess is old agfa stock. they are working on a new very low iso (i think like iso 3) film codenamed "helios" that was supposed to come out this summer but it didnt.
I wasn't aware that Adox was a film manufacturer. A look at their back catalogue of discontinued films points to them buying old film stock and respooling them with their brand on it. Once the master stock has gone, so is ther film.
@@lensman5762 Not at all, they have their own coating machines, all the black and white stuff is fresh from their NEW factory, the color stuff is the only thing they are outsourcing.
interesting, from what I understood from their marketing was that it was a roll that came from the research of color film, that they where getting coated by a company that went bust. but who knows, color manufactures are criptic at best
I was gunna say something about the nail polish and start talking shit because i'm a hater and thats what I do on most photography youtube videos (at least i'm self aware). But I wont, because I am blown away by the quality of video you guys produced, this is so good. Holy smokes. This is the first video i'm watching from this channel but if the rest are this good this might be the best photography channel on youtube. So glad I came across this. Thank you.
you can talk shit about my nail polish all day friend :)
haha yeah mostly was a joke just tryna get a laugh out of ya. Good stuff brother. videos are exceptional. @@jonathancanlas
its funny all the info we crammed into this video and some folks all they got out of it was "wHaT iS uP wItH hIs NaIlS?"
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Lots of grain and contrast. Why make a new film that seems worse than the old films?
Why the clear base?
I've heard a whisper its based on tungsten slide film.
they made this film with whatever they had on hand at the factory. This is basically a combination of Ilford XP2 base (which is why it's so grainy) with really basic color dyes in order to produce a primitive color film. it's still missing a lot of layers such as an anti-halation layer, probably other color dyes and additional emulsion layer to help with the contrast.
I won’t buy it
if you want to support the film company, you really should rethink that comment. even if it is just one roll. it's like crowd-sourcing minus the product never arriving as promised.