Colt 1855 10-Gauge Revolving Shotgun
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- čas přidán 11. 07. 2024
- In 1855, Colt introduced a new revolver unlike the others in their lineup - it was a side-hammer design with the cylinder stops built into the axis pin instead of the cylinder. They then proceeded to scale the design up into revolving rifles and shoguns in several calibers. The revolving shotgun model was the least-produced, with only about 1300 made between 1860 and 1863. This example is in 10 gauge, and has five chambers in the cylinder.
Man, revolvers are so cool, why aren't there more revolving shotguns in the world?..."... You're gonna get spray out the cylinder gap-"Oh, that's why.
They look cool...but nowadays, they dont act cool
Welk, not just that, chainfire is a thing for BP revolvers!
Yeah, all chambers firing simultaneously, as I have my left hand forward of the cylinder...no thanks!
Well if they had a good tolerance there like rugers make, think they wouldn't have issue but idk
But a revolving 10 gauge would have been badass for hunting flocks of birds. I think I would have just put a piece of leather on my left arm.
@@ruger51995 1895 Nagant style cylinders are one solution, at the cost of 3000 lb DA trigger pulls
Revolving large caliber long guns have always fascinated me.
Jeffery Liggett Same here.
***** That never stopped movie directors and writers from using e.g. P90 bullpup rifles in 90s action movies, the mare's leg Henry rifle (cut down) for Zoe's sidearm in Firefly, and etc. Aside from historical movies, there's always going to be an artsy director type looking for the next unique never-before-seen thing to lend novelty to his vision, just as there'll be plenty of directors and writers who choose to equip their fictional all-American heroes with easily recognizable 1911s, cops with Glocks (or revolvers in old/gritty movies), etc.
WVgregWV They were probably historical oddities and not easy to find out about, and the movies made at that time were kind of made by people ad hoc, so they didn't realize the cool factor that was out there.
Greg Gallacci
All of that is why CG muzzle flash is becoming more popular.
Jeffery Liggett same
I imagine if an action sort of like a nagant revolver where the cylinder has a lock, thus no spray, would work very well with this type of "revolving longgun"
I was thinking the same thing.
Such a design was used in the pieper revolving carbine
Nagant-like system requires quite a specific cartridge with bullet fully sunk in the brass case, so obviously not suitable for caplock era. As a guy above mentioned this system was used in Pieper revolving carbine, which was neat, I suppose, but it still used that quite rare cartridge configuration. So I guess, that's the answer. Gas-sealing system for revolvers (and other revolving guns) requires specific cartridge which was introduced only in lately 1800-s, 1890-s I guess, a period when revolving systems began being obsolete with introduction of first successfull semi-auto box-mag pistols. Needless to say, that revolving rifles also felt outdated for that moment compared to others, so the idea of gas-sealing system didn't get any development in future
I feel the spray could be mitigated by using a leather cuff or bracer on the forward arm, similar to an archer's slap guard.
That makes sense and might work I do have archery experience so I can see what you mean by that I'm thinking a bracer could work better
True, but what about the splatter from chain firing if it should happen? That damage can't really be mitigated by attire unless you wanted to wear a steel gauntlet.
I feel that's a bit of a null point. If you have a chain fire then you have other problems. I was only suggesting a way to mitigate the problem of getting burned by normal fire. Also, to help mitigate chain firing, smear a little crisco across the face of the cylinder.
exactly. but it would also reduce function of the weapon so much. grabbing it two handed like a retard would be just as good?
The quality of this chat is unmatched on CZcams.
Now I've seen a unicorn. I remember reading about these in Louis L'amour books. For a long time I thought he was making them up.That's a lot of firepower for the day.
Funny, I watched this for the same reason, Louis L'Amour. He is my favorite author of all time.
Same here. Read about in Louis l'amour's Westerns. Damn.
good for taking out those rouge elephants that encountered during cattle drives
Louise L'amour was very careful to keep anachronisms out of his books. If you read about a gun in one of his books, it existed and was available at the time of the story's setting. His terrain was also real. He not only flew over the area but rode it horseback. If one of his characters drank at a stream, lake, or pond, you could go there and drink the water. While writing fiction he kept things as real as he could.
I read the walking drum once
I just found this video, and the design of this weapon is exactly what I needed to design my own for a prop. Thank you GREATLY for explaining how this worked.
That is an ungodly amount of Lugers in the background, holy crap.
Ian could potentially re-arm every dead german officer from world war 1 and 2
Nick Irmen possibly 3?
Looks Legit.
You think THAT is an "ungodly amount of Lugers"? When I was a child, I remember a friend of Daddy's had a true "huge collection" of Lugers- over 300. One guy, who worked on the railroad. No, he wasn't close to being rich. But Lugers were cheap AF for years after the WW's. I remember $99 M1 Garand rifles at the "A&N Surplus Store" in Portsmouth, Va- a big rack of them. That was in the late 60's.
@@Patriotgal1 My uncle had an M1 back in the early 70's. That thing was fun to shoot. And very reliable.
Imagine if they made a revolving Shotgun today with a Webley top break.
I want one.
@@sedme0 shit I'd buy one
I think I like the look of the more beat up shotgun. Maybe I'm strange but I like something that looks like it has a story.
Ieuan Hunt you should see my 1943 m1 garand....ive got a REALLY shitty video on my channel i did when i was about 9 years younger..... but, the only original pieces are the main stock and the reciever.
the trigger group is new, some of the metal stock parts are new, the barrel is a 1952, the bolt some other year, the for grip (the bit on the very end of the stock ) is birch and lighter colored, the upper handguard is different.
it just looks like its seen some shit.
Ieuan Hunt Not strange at all. You'd be in good company around here.
I think about the guy , working his hands to the bone every day , and then . One day , a package arrives , he's waited for three months . Here it is this well made good working accurate gun and instantly falls kin love with it and it's his for 6 life .
The nice thing about an antique firearm that is well worn is , if you wanted to shoot it you could without worrying about ruining any original finish. And the well worn gun exudes a character that a pristine example doesn't. There's a certain satisfaction in taking a vintage firearm hunting or target shooting that's difficult to explain.
Here's the story some dude bought this gun used it occasionally then it sat in someone's attic for 70 years then there great grandkid sold. What would make it intresting is if something was genuinely off about it like all of the wood was gone but the metal was still there
What a remarkable weapon!!! The creativity and ingenuity of our forefathers still astounds me every day.
wearing thick sleeves/long gloves to protect your arm would probably be much better than holding it in that funny way
Infantrymen that were issued with the revolving rifles in the Civil War were drilled to fire it with the loading lever down, using it like an ersatz foregrip. There were very few incidents reported, most likely because of the consistency of factory made ammunition.
Or do it like the russians and seal the drum with a blast shield, like on the MTs255.
Yeah, that would not be fun at all lol
@@ThePandoraGuy That would increase the risk of a chain fire like he said in the video, that only works on cartridge firing revolving rifles, but it's a different story with black powder cap and ball rifles since the shield redirects the sparks and hot lead back into the chambers.
@@Insanabiliter_In_Linea My bad. I forgot about black powders temperament.
Another very cool weapon, and great video. Thank you to everyone involved in production for all your obvious passion and hard work.
So cool Ian. We would never in a lifetime get to see so many of the guns you show us Thanx .
Congratulations. Three jaws just dropped at the same time when you first panned the shotgun. Absolutely Beautiful. Thank you for the look-see.
Your videos are always informative and easy to understand.
I especially like your Volkssturm reviews!
Keep up the good work mate :)
Thanks Ian, lovely to see this unusual piece
There clearly is not a more intelligent, knowledgeable and respectful group of viewers on any other channel on CZcams. I love reading the comments! You guys are amazing!
I've recently become interested in the technology and progression of percussion/black powder firearms. The engineering that went into these were so forward-thinking. Excellent video as usual Ian.
Man what a cool shotgun. Ive watched this video once before but upon rewatch i think im even more fascinated. I think its the patina as much as anything else.
Like to have that hanging over the fireplace mantel if I had a fireplace. Thank you for your time and a bit of history. I Love gun's of the west.
Bravo RIA, love these vids!
Even though I am not really that much of a gun guy, I really enjoy seeing the guns you show on your channel.
The skill of the smiths back then, when they had none of the modern machinery we have today is very impressive.
Each item is a work of art and you can sense the pride that went into the work.
The gun that has had a hard life may not be as pretty to look at, but I bet it has got quite a few stories to tell.
Thank you for a great video! Cool history!
Wins the "coolest old shotgun" award hands down
NOT ENOUGH LUGERS IN THE BACK CABINET!!!!iii!@!
THATS WHY I CANT EVER FUCKING FIND ONE!!! THEY HAVE EM ALL!
*_NEIN_*
*_NINE LUGERS NEIN FOR YOU_*
ARARRARARARARRARA!
Very cool! I read about these years ago in Louis L'Amour books, but had never seen one. Thanks for your very informative and interesting videos!
A revolver shotgun? America is marvelous!
Beautiful piece of Victorian era Engineering. You can imagine one of Verne or Wells' Science-Heroes carrying one.
Quite an ingenious design, as it allows fitting/replacement of the timing mechanism independent of the cylinder.
It was kinda satisfying as you pulled out the access pin
Very informative - thanks!
How did I miss this video. Very nice.
The sound of that hammer cocking sounds amazing!
Last night I watched "Forsaken" on Netflix, a film set in the 1870's, and a character was loaned a 10-gauge revolver (handgun, not a long gun) for a forthcoming spot of trouble. Watching this, I thought "What? A 10-gauge revolver? Nonsense!" So today I went online and, well, here you are. I just watched your video on the 10-gauge revolver, so here I stand, corrected. Always learning something new 🙂.
I feel like I can smell this gun.
I love how this video came up in my news feed because I was looking up 19th century firearms to add to my D&D campaign, including revolving long guns.
Oh my lord i want one...
Have such love for all old revolvers
From one of the Louis La Mour books. "Finally got around to lookin did ya? This here is a Colt Revolving Shotgun. And if i can hit a duck on the wing i believe I can hit a man sittin a saddle...."
Very nice presentation!
there really ought to be something like this in a reproduction, I'm sure many people would appreciate the novelty of a revolving shotgun and many more would appreciate a fun non-NFA SBR
Honestly they could just make the Taurus Judge with an extended barrel and a broom handle back end basically.
WOuld be cheap, easy, and fun.
Zwordsman turns out that such a thing exists - the Taurus/Rossi Circuit Judge, and I want one.
@@Islacrusez the Russians actually produce revolving shotguns ranging from 410 to 12ga.
Curious how it went when Colt realized that the shield would be a problem. I wonder how many people got their arm and/or fingers blown off when one of the other cylinders fired at the same time?
Maybe not that many. If you were careful with your six-gun, you'd be that careful with your rifle.
This is one of those firearms I'd like to see a manufacturer remake, and even modernize. The side spray can't be that bad.
Those are pretty awesome
That is a brilliant design! The hand and so forth being hidden away from all the black powder, and the cylinder not getting additionally worn - just replace the pin.
If they had fixed the handling, so that it won't spit junk if held in the front, it would be a very interesting and practical design, more so in shell-less black powder operation.
That is such a beautiful shotgun.
that's why I really wanted a judge version! totally bad ass!
I like how your definition of "pretty rough shape" is well above what I would consider a passable condition firearm. I look at that thing and thought it looked alright.
This was very educational. I enjoyed it 🙂
When you want a shotgun but revolver is life:
Ok.... now those are absolutely beautiful.... I both want and need one of these in my life....
I had the pleasure of holding a big 10-gauge in a friends collection. Nothing says Big Hurt better than these monsters!
amazing sounds
A very beautiful and innovative gun!
That's a cool weapon, I love older guns
The barrel retaining block is actually a wedge, like the pistols. Theoretically, you use it to snug the barrel back as close to the cylinder as possible, greatly reducing the gap and accompanying gas and lead leak.
Great video! Love guns and be safe people
Very interesting,ppl never would know that there were such cool weapons waaaaaaaaay back when.
COOL!
Thank you fer the share.
was this gun made before or after the colt revolving rifle ?
munkSWE88 It was introduced a couple years after the rifle, but they are the exact same mechanism.
that looks so cool
Thats one cool gun
Great video as always, very informative, and thank you for the recommendations a couple of videos back including British muzzleloaders and crsenal. I have a question about this revolving shotgun though. What is the hole on the top of the frame just above the cylinder gap for? My guess is it's either a drilled and tapped hole for an old scope mount which seems silly considering it's a shotgun. Or could it possibly be a vent hole which directs most of the gasses safely upwards, somewhat efficiently solving both the cylinder gap blast and chain fire problem allowing this to be held at the fore end more safely? Seems like that cylinder gap is pretty darn tight for one, and the breech face seems to have a bit of an underbite as it were which could direct gasses up through that little hole. Very interesting if that's the case, an acceptable sacrifice as well since the sight picture gets obscured for a good hour anyway with most black powder firearms. What do you think?
I saw one of these in a firearms museum in St. Augustine FL. I told several people about it and they swore I was crazy. Nice to see others to prove I'm not crazy.
I'm not a big gun fan but I do love there old guns I find the history rather intersting.
The gun is awesome. First time seeing one.
Ive been watching forgotten weapons for years. with playing the video game hunt showdown I just keep thinking how cool it would be to add new guns based off of weapons like these
This is beautiful
Maxie Karn I know right. gorgeous guns
Freaking awesome. I'd love a 10ga. shotty like that
Mr.Ian; i would pray for the gods, to see you shot these beautifull pices.
nice little beast i must say
That is so cool!
That's real technology at it's finest 💪
Great video ! Ian was a very cool host; whether he said Chamber or Cylinder I knew what he was talking about it was just layman's talk and although that may not be acceptable with the bujwazee i think it makes the guy common enough to have a beer with. As for the shield, why wasn't there a small porthole for exhaust ? seems viable enough and it could've been facing down to avoid detection. I've always liked the double barrel shotguns and then really liked the revolving shotguns that appeared on TV and auctions; I would like to see more modern day attempts at revolving shotguns than just one company. Excellent camera angels and i even like the background gun cases ! Thumbs up. EDIT: maybe wear a Winchester Gauntlet to avoid chamber spray ! prob not 'cause just another thing to pay and then care for; never mind.
I'd love to have one of those a combination of my favorite weapons
very cool gun
Awesome!
Seems like a fun gun
Beautiful old shotgun that would look great in my hands.
Nice gun sir i just learned how to cook myself
Wow, what a wonderful 10ga! I would love a repo of this, but lord knows what I would do with it. :) Thanks for posting!
That thing is SWEET! :D I'd love to see a company make a modern version, even if it's not to conventional.
Очень понравилось видео!! Спасибо!! Thank you!! Very interesting!! =))
this might just be my dream gun
Now that’s an interesting gun how cool
I quite like this design, especially in the Roots pocket revolver. With the centre pin mounting it would even be possibly to carry multiple loaded cylinders for (relatively) quick reloading.
Uberti might just have the "pocket roots" for 2022. They have some stuff being replicated that they haven't done before and some stuff they haven't done in awhile. Be nice to see a .28 caliber baby Patterson replica.
I had no idea there was a 10 (A-10) guage revolving shotgun.. that's nuts.
Grandfather said you shouldn't support it by the barrel sometimes all the cylinders would go off and tear your hand up. I learned that first hand with my colt 44. He was a market hunter 1899 Wapsi x mississippi
Very interesting. I wonder how well a arm guard would work for the cylinder gap problem?
I'd be terrified of using this. I remember seeing R Lee Ermy with one of those revolver style rifles, and freely admitting he was NOT going to fire it due to the risk of the larger black powder charges possibly triggering the others upon firing. I would think this had a similar safety potential.
kewl video. Thanks.
Ace video Ian. I wonder if these guns would have been more successful if they had used a system like the nagant revolver where the cylinder moves forward to close or cover the gap when the gun fires. I think that would improve muzzle energy as well as stop the gas from burning your arm and the possibility of chain firing.
Most beautiful thing I ever seen! 😍
"Notice where my left hand is? This is my left hand. There are many like it, but this my hand" The late R. Lee Ermey on rifles with a revolving drum.
That cylinder was the coolest!
I have heard of soldiers during the civil war using the loading lever folded down as a forward pistol grip in order to get their arm out of the way of the cylinder gap spray.
thanks again
Ian,
I'm about to start a re-bluing project. Can you do a piece on historic or forgotten weapons finishes?
I had a friend who was enamored of the 44 mag handgun ... he unknowingly fired it with his other hand wrapped around the cylinder ... to steady his shot ... he had to make a speed run to the emergency room ... it was a good month til the bandages came off and he could use his left hand again
Where there maybe protective gears for the lower arm offered or recommended? Like e.g. a glove with a long shaft or something just strapped to the lower arm?
If I had owned and used such a rifle back then I had at least considered trying out some kind of protection.
This looks a lot like and may even be a gun that is in a old ps2 civil war game made by history channel, I have some fond memories of playing that game with my older brothers