Joachim Meyer's Longsword: Kronhauw & Cutting Mechanics
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- čas přidán 9. 10. 2021
- In this video we take a deep dive into Meyer's Kronhauw.
There are several interpretations of this cut, though this is the one I prefer for general use as it's effective, fits the text well, and integrates smoothly into Meyer's wider longsword corpus.The main take-aways are ensuring a single counterattacking action, and using the appropriate structure to make it work. However, in getting to this point we can discover some interesting observations about generalised cutting mechanics both in Meyer, and in earlier KdF systems. - Sport
This is very helpful to me... All of yourbbideos have been. Thank you
Thanks! I'm glad you found them useful.
Dude, you’re vids are sooo freaking helpful!! Straight and to the point, I love the illustrations and diagrams, we can really see what is happening and what we should be doing, excellent shit here, man, thanks so much for putting it out there!
Always a pleasure to have this teaching from you! Thank you again!
Another good video, the explanation of the different cutting types/lengths was really interesting and that last diagram talking about the different cutting angles will definately help me interpret plays a bit better, thanks :D
What a fantastic stuff for a beginner like me ! Thanks a lot for your amazing work!
Yes! Some finally talking about big hands exposure during max hands extension when cutting from Vom Tag. I learned that already few years ago, hard way... with my hand being crushed few times when I tried overreach for my big collegues head :) Newbies are especially vulnerable to this as they tend to always go for max reach cause they want to hit the opponent so badly. They usually don't understand the mechanics and differences between full cut and slashing strike and they end up always extending their hands and then they learn that this is not quite good for their thumb.
Absolutely! New fencers immediately go for that extended reach - it makes perfect sense after all... until their hands get hit. Then they either learn or buy a sword with side rings ;-)
This was really well done, nice job.
Another fantastic video Dan, thanks for your insight!
Thanks :)
Oh dang... This is exactly similar to my interpretation for marozzo's first part of the first assault of the two handed sword
Love this video
great video, definitely will check in training - love your videos :D
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Another very good video, I admire the clarity and the work put into the editing !
I don't practice Meyer, but seeing the explanation I have a question.
The initial strike with the flat is supposed to parry or displace an oberhau/Zornhau from the opponent. Is there a risk to lack structure to effectively defend from this ?
I notice that usually with blade on blade actions, the fencer pushing with the flat is usually weaker.
It doesnt look like the flat presses against their edge, the flat faces the opponent so the attack would still come down on the edge
Exactly at Thomas points out :)
The strike isn't actually using the flat to displace, instead it's the long-edge which does the work, which actually forms quite a strong structure, especially when formed with good opposition.
If you do want to use the flat, then a lower hand position can actually still make the technique work, using the thumbing of the schilt and crossing the body to create structure: basically this will result in a Glutzhau, in Meyer's terminology :)
Great video. What model of feder were you using in this video? : )
Thanks! Two types of feder appear in the video. The pronounced schilt with circular brass terminals on the quillon is a Pavel Moc , and the more streamlined feder is a Sigi Lichty
great diagram of ober zorn kron glutz etc, is there an image of that online? it'll be cool to have
I don't think there is 😞
At times I find Meyer's distinctions a little confusing, as the Kronhau just seems like Schielhau, except its from a low guard rather than from Roof or Wrath. Similarly, Windthau being a Wechselhau with the true edge-ish.
Anyhow, I miss this technique; used to do it all the time when I first started sparring but these days it seems like I never get to use it for some reason...
You're right. A lot of Meyer's techniques are situation dependent , with minor variations which provide additional context. A "glutzhauw" for example is another technique that's pretty close to a schielhauw, but with minor variation.
I like to think of Meyer's techniques as belonging to "families" of cuts - Kronhauw and Glutzhauw belong to the Schielhauw family, while Kurtzhau belongs to the Krumphauw Family, and so on :)
Sorry… the radiologist in me just can’t help but notice… 🙈… That looks like either a displaced 1st metacarpal fracture or an MCP joint luxation in the x-ray… both unlikely injuries to the thumb as a result of longsword fencing… I would expect proximal or distal phalangeal injuries😄🙈… awesome video though!
Fortunately that’s not my hand. Just a picture from the internet
Though my thumb is held together with titanium screws from the bad old days of hema when fencing in light gloves was something people stupidly did 😁
That background is terrible.
I know - the background is awful, but I didn't have anywhere else to shoot at the time... it gave me a headache editing it with all those dots! :D