KTM Freeride E-XC Cross Country Race 2021 K-XCR Round 6, Ridge Run
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- Can you ride a KTM Freeride E-XC electric motorcycle in a Hare Scramble / Cross Country race? You can!!!
7/11/2021 K-XCR Round 6, McKee Kentucky, Ed Fessler in the AM race Masters B class (Age 50+), riding a 2021 KTM Freeride E-XC Electric Motorcycle, Swapping the battery one time for an almost 2 hour race.
Final result: 1st place out of 7 racers.
Chapters:
0:00:00 - Ride to the Starting Line
0:00:49 - Staring Line
0:01:34 - Lap 1
0:22:19 - Lap 2
0:44:50 - Lap 3
1:07:15 - Battery Swap
1:09:54 - Lap 3
1:10:15 - Lap 4
1:32:50 - Lap 5
1:55:28 - Finish Line
dude the holeshot...................
you are gone before they even get their bike started that so cool
One thing in electric bike can do is rip around in the woods and no one knows you’re even in there so you can rip around and practice motocross W/o
to piss people off
@Ed Fessler Awesome! Love to see it. The battery swap is the way to do it! 👍
Thank you!
Yeah poop ,when u a true fossil ktm lover u hate this toy sounding things it has nothing for me to make a switch!!!becous u are no true planet saver whit this things!!!its a farge!!!
That was really impressive both for the bike and your riding. Very cool man.
Thanks for sharing, Ed!
Wow, what a start 😳😳😳 awesome 👍👍👍
Congratulations!
Excellent riding!! I had no idea how far E bikes had come WOW!! Loved it !!! excellent hole shot!!!
Thank you Will!
That looks like a hard race, great skills, great bike 👍
Great job! I see you raced in mode 3. Looks super slick. Changed my comment after you fell I could see the mode. Electric power was great on that slick up hill
Thank you. The highest one, mode 3..
Edit: Yes, it was very slick! A few places were good traction, others were like a skating rink. The electric was definitely an advantage on some of the hills. Just the fact I did not have to fool with a clutch or gear shifter was big. I was always in the right gear! :-)
thanks for sharing ! Nice race!
Starke Leistung. Danke für´s zeigen. 😀👍
Bitte schön. Ich bin froh, dass es Dir gefallen hat. (You are welcome. I am glad you enjoyed it)
Ok I had all these thoughts throughout the race. As a MTB rider, these would have been both exhilarating and exhausting. Also, I thought on a bike I would have ripped through all this. But then I saw that you were in the Masters group. Not sure what age, but damn, my respects sir. I watched the whole video and you did absolutely fantastic. Kept going no matter what. Loved it!
Thank you! I am very glad you enjoyed it. It was right after this race that someone in the pit area saw me pull into the pits with my GoPro and asked if I had a channel so he could see my video. I told him I did not have one, but later thought if people would like to see it, I could put it out there. I went to so many races when I was younger and I have trouble remembering them all, so I figured it would be good to have the videos later when I get old. :-). It was a VERY muddy race for sure. Not sure if you could tell how slick it was. :-) The Masters Class is 50 years old and up, I am 56. Many years ago, I went through some back issues and was not able to do this type of thing, so I feel very blessed to be able to do it again.
this was awesome!. Watching this Im wondering if a handlebar switch for the mode selector would be beneficial in terms of pulling mode 1 on downhills for regen to extend the battery life to maybe make the whole 2 hours.
A handlebar switch to go into mode one on down Hills would be great. But it would be even better if KTM had regenerative braking on Level 3 to begin with!
well done!
Interesting how having a silent bike makes it easy to you've got traffic behind. When I race XC in TX, most starts were live engine. Electric is a huge advantage in your starts. I would expect the rest of the class to demand live engine starts to even the playing field before long.
Yes, I always am the first off the line for sure. However, the Freeride is a bit lower power than a lot of motorcycles I am raring against, probably similar to a 4-Stroke 250. So if there is a long straight before the first turn, some riders can catch up to me. Surprisingly, no-one had ever really complained about this advantage, at least not to me anyway. :-) But with a race typically about 2 hours, I think most racers realize that rider skill and time is really going to be the difference in the race.
How does it feel in the woods, weight wise? I rode a YZ 426 and then 450 soon after their introduction. Then I returned to a YZ250 two stroke. In the woods, the lighter weight was more help than the extra power.
Most people I've seen riding these bikes are not doing this kind of tight single track racing. I've wondered how they feel in the trees? I'm sure the power delivery is great for the purpose.
@@yzScott The Electric Freeride feels very light in the woods compared to a gas bike, even though it is probably not lighter. I think it is mostly because of less rotating mass. Keep in mind though if you drop it, you will notice that it is pretty heavy when you pick it up. LOL It feels great in the trees and it has a big advantage that you do not have to shift gears. You are always in the right gear and you can go as slow as you want and never stall the engine. Even though it does not have a ton of power, it is super smooth and very effective. I find myself trying to make up time at the start and end of long straight stretches by carrying more speed out of the turn and into the next turn after the straight. I would like to have a little more power, but I do not consider it a significant disadvantage. It is really more about how fast you can snake through the woods, not how fast you can accelerate. My friend rides a RMZ 250 and he loves to ride my motorcycle just because it is so simple to ride and very smooth.
@@edfessler Interesting. They look pretty fun.
@@yzScott This was first motorcycle I bought in a very long time that I was not able to ride before I bought it. The final thing that tipped move over the edge for the purchase was a comment that someone made on a video reviewing it. They said it was very fun! They were right. :-)
12.2.21 Round 6 was worse than round 9. How long would you estimate the electric motor to last riding like you do? KTM should give you some kind of sponsorship for doing the videos showing their bike. Looks like the bike to have for these kind of races. Will the 2022 model have any improvements over then 2021? Somehow you were able to overtake the 1st place person. You need a pit crew to help change out the battery and save some time.
LOL, Yes, KTM should sponsor me! Or they should at least reprogram the motorcycle for me to give me regen braking on level 3! :-)
A pit crew would help a lot on the battery swap. My very first race with it I had a friend do the swap for me. It was great. I figure I get 17 to 19 miles on a battery depending on race conditions. Maybe a little over an hour of hard riding.
No improvements for 2022 that I know of.
As I later found out, 1st place actually crashed in the really wide and fast slick area just before the end of the last lap. That is how I ended up getting 1st even though there was never a pass.
Congratulations Ed!!!
And thanks for sharing the exciting race.
Keep up the great!!!
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Jeremiah 29:11
Great ride and video, did you do anything to the Freeride? Different tire, or gearing? I'm 62 and just getting back competitively (life distractions and a few injuries took away most of the last 17 years) I'll die before my Varga shows up so might as well get onto something. Congrats by the way.
Thank you. I did not change much other than tires. The tires that come on the motorcycle are junk. Especially for a mud race. I usually run tires good for mud, like a Starcross 5 Soft front tire and an IRC M5B on the rear. I also tried an IRC VE 33s gekkota that I liked pretty well, although I did not care for the front tire of that model. I took off the rear tail-light and plastic piece underneath. I have found that it is very important to plug up the hole that the wire went through to get to the battery area, as this will accumulate a lot of mud and can cause issues with the water pump relay that is in that area.
Well ya didnt stall it once. Well done
Showing them how it’s done 👌
Great race and battery swap! I hope ktm gives us auto aux battery failover + extended ranges in future models.
A bigger battery also makes sense since the free ride weighs significantly less (204lbs) than other 250 (218lbs) and 350 (228.8lbs) bikes anyways!
With a bigger battery it would still beat other gas bikes due to lack of clutch+shifter. Instant electric speed+torque kinda makes it unfair tbh. Thats what allowed you to pass them up from the start and helped you keep the lead.
I also wish they ditched the 220volt socket - such a pain to charge if you dont have that or a generator.
Thanks!
Actually the electric freeride weighs 244 lbs. It feels light riding it, but when you have to pick it up when you fall, you feel it! :-)
Great vid, thanks :) What do you think about using mode 2 when it´s slick mud like that, cause that thing will spin that wheel on any surface, so maybe better traction?
I have never thought of using mode 2 in very slick conditions. That might be a good idea! 😁
@@edfessler Yes, same power in map 2/3 but not so aggressive power/torque curve
I just picked up an e-xc and it’s AMAZING. I’m curious if you’re running the stock Maxxis Trialmaxx tires in these conditions? Or did you switch them out? And to what if yes? Thanks for any info on this and great race Ed!
Those stock tires in this kind of mud are useless. They clog up immediately and are just like slick tires. Many people like Michelin Starcross 5 intermediate tires on the front and rear. Those are great all around tires. For the mud, I like the Michelin Starcross 5 soft in the front and the IRC M5B in the back. Go for the 110 size for the rear if you can find it. If not, the 120 will work.
@@edfessler thank you! Great info and it’s much appreciated :)
Great great video. I saw everthing and was great ride, great pilot (very polite). Damn, how can i convince the wife to get one e-xc!?
LOL! I'm not sure about that one!
But thank you.:-)
@1:07:20 Battery Swap
This probably takes me a minute and a half. Plus another minute to swap the GoPro battery. I think if I had a practiced 3 person pit crew, it could all be done in 30 seconds! :-)
Great riding Ed! I recognize a bunch of that trail from the Renfro Valley Dual Sport last month.
Thanks Jeff!
How much battery was left in the 2nd batt at the end? Congrats on the win.
Thank you. I had just under 50% in the second battery at the finish line. The battery would have easily had enough energy for one more lap. I'm not sure about me. I had lost all my energy! My odometer showed one lap as 4.9 miles. My first battery showed right at 20% left after 3 laps. That also included energy to ride 0.7 miles up the steep hill to the starting line from the truck.
Wow how did you get the second battery? How long did it take and how much did it cost?
I bought 2 motorcycles and used the battery from the other one.
Extra battery costs $4,500 USD including shipping & tax. Iv'e been waiting two months for mine to come in, they're telling me it should get here in August.
If nothing else, it comes off the line fast.
Thank you Kevin for lending me your laptop to do the editing and rendering. My old laptop was just not up to the task!
You pay money for this I know its fast but the world and ready for this yet
That thing sounds like my daughters electric Barbie car
LOL! Yes, it probably does! :-)
A retailer in my country has a model 2022 in stock but its like 130k euro for it..
130,000 Euro is about $153,000.
Something does not sound right.
@@edfessler Must have meant 13k Euro
Watching it at 2x speed haha
Front suspension seems very harsh. Be a lot easier to ride with softer front setting.
Your not doing big jumps so let the bike soak up the bumps..
The front suspension is actually pretty good on the small stuff. The bottoms hard on anything big, but that's okay. The track was definitely a rough ride.
As always, weight dependent. But, IME at 220 lbs the front suspension is quite harsh. Suspension work is a must, but otherwise the bike is freaking phenomenal.
Recently I have softened up the suspension on the compression clickers, and I think it is better. Thanks for the suggestion!
Mister Ed I'm using this video pretty heavily to support you and kmt we're trying to start a farming project in Kansas and I'll have a bird Nursery could you keep in your contacts MyInfo
wow thanks, electric sure seems like the future especially when tracks are getting shut down all over, did you see the new 80 hrsp electric dirt bike from Sweden? that has the same weight as a 450? that seems like the electric ticket for sure.
ktm freeride: Rated output: 9kW (12 hp) @ 4500 rpm Torque: 42 Nm
i can tell its wet and you are not a pro or an A rider and maybe thats why the free ride appears very very slow. never the less it still didnt make it 2 hours? i guess if someone ripped it, it would last an hour and NOT able to do a two hour race worth a crap, not competitive at all and a 125xc would be as fun and wax it off the trail.
Yes, it was very wet and muddy, so it was very difficult to go fast. Some of the areas were complete slop, but I think I kept up my speed fairly well to keep the tires cleaned out. The reason I won the race in the end is because the guy in first slid off the trail in one of the slop sections. I swapped the battery half-way through the race, so you are correct it would not make 2 hours with one battery. The mud can drain the battery even more. I figure it can go an hour on a battery running it pretty hard. A 125 could keep up with it well, but it is of course a lot of shifting and clutching, which is the whole point of what I am trying to avoid. It is a lot of fun just concentrating on riding and not operating the clutch, gear shifter and rear brake on the foot. I do have an order in for the Stark Varg, and I think it will be a big performance step up. Look for a review on it comparing it to this bike when I get it.
What the problem with your bike? You let to many people pass you. It didn't seem you had power when you need it.
I'm not sure when in the race you are talking about, but I can only ride a motorcycle so fast for a 2 hour race. That goes for gas or electric. If someone follows me for a significant amount of time, or if they yell or rev their engine, I typically let them around. It is not good to hold up other riders that are faster. Notice that other riders let me around as well if I beeped at them. If I know they are in my class that may be different, especially if it is the last lap, then they have to earn the pass for sure! That happened in the K-XCR Round 9 which is posted. The rider in my class would not let me around in the last lap, which is fair. I had to make a risky move climbing a slick rock wall out of a creek. But it worked! That being said, my motorcycle is limited to about 45 mph, so there is at least one place on the course that someone behind me could take advantage of that. I do not consider that to be a significant disadvantage. Also, the motorcycle has plenty of power for woods racing. Of course not as much power as my KTM 300! LOL!
Race ! Really I've seen people go faster on a skateboard .
Love your style be lucky out there and stay safe sanki from s Wales pyle
LOL 🙃 Slooow race