Nice! There was one that we would sometimes drive by when I was younger too and it always looked like some sort of futuristic city to me lit up at night
I usually like setting the pop-out at 50% with depth always at max, but I change the pop-out depending on how much ghosting there is. I mostly notice ghosting happening in contrasty areas.
Anything else you would like to see on the Spatial Labs laptop? The 3D version of this video will be up at a later date on my other channel, for now check out this video in full 3D : czcams.com/video/jdoQLeLUAX0/video.html
Thanks for this video, I don't believe there is anything else on YT about this tech in a detailed form like this. I have a big collection of 3d movies blu rays and .iso mkv files... I use power dvd 19 and ps3 ps4 to play them in 3d. Can you use this 3d tech to watch 3d blu rays and or backup files on pc? Also when you do the gaming aspect of this tec... is there a significant hit to performance when playing in 3d? For example the tomb raider games in 3d were much harder on the cpu and ram when playing in 3d on an nvidia 3dvision setup.
I assume that Vudu is also blocked due to DRM - please confirm at your convenience. Is there anyway to save converted videos for playing on other devices, or editing out disparities ? Finally - please give the "this video is avail in 3D on my other channel" announcement at the START, not the END of the video. Thanks again for all you do to review these devices for the community of 3D lovers.
I'll look into Vudu! I didn't think to try it yet. On this laptop there doesn't seem to be any way to save converted videos. It only works in real time as you watch. Noted about the announcement
Thank You Josh, Is it possible to convert CZcams or any other video in 2D into 3D in real time without any distortion and artifaction? If yes, please demonstrate some CZcams videos...
Thanks for watching! There is still some artifact and choppiness that results from the conversion, but it can be done in real time for pretty much any video that doesn't block it, like Netflix or other paid streaming services. Personally I like the results, but I hope to see it improve over time. I do plan to make more videos showing this feature in greater detail and comparing conversion on different devices
You implied that the 2D/3D conversion on the laptop is in some sense "better" than the 2D/3D conversion on the Lume Pad 2. Is there a different level or type of "conversion artifacts" on one device vs the other? I assume that they are using exactly the same conversion software since they have a business relationship. TrueGames isn't much of an incentive for the laptop now that we have UEVR. Also, I think you said on another video that the 3D screen is better on the laptop than the Lume Pad. Besides being bigger, is it higher resolution? I need a really good excuse to buy that expensive laptop. My plan is to just connect the Lume Pad 2 to one of those new 27 inch 4K 3D monitors that you mentioned and skip the laptop.
I think I'll do a direct comparison at some point, but I wouldn't say its better. I think the quality of the actual Lume Pad 2 conversion overall is better and doesn't seem to use the same technology. I think the ACER laptop is tech that was developed on ACER's end or supported by Dimenco, not the same as what Leia has been using. You can see more real proportions and depth overall with Leia's conversion, but the advantage of the Spatial Labs laptops is less cross talk much greater brightness. However there is less stability when things move quickly or the image pans to the side for example. I used to feel that the Lume Pad 2 was much better, but I think that ACER has updated and slightly improved the quality of the conversion and that the update last fall to LeiaTube added auto-reconvergence which actually made the output quality feel less smooth (probably because it is working harder to both convert and adjust convergence in real time) and it also makes the image noticeably move in and out of the screen as you watch which is distracting to me. This change prevents significant pop out from happening to limit crosstalk, but to me it lessens the level of immersion. I actually prefer more pop-out even with mild cross-talk over everything being dragged back to the level of the screen.
Thanks for the comparison. I think the Lume Pad conversion is amazing with a few "edge" artifacts, but all of the conversion softwares have different artifacts. Supposedly the Owl3D software for your PC is the best, but I have trouble seeing the differences. The Owl3D takes many hours to process, but it has a bunch of settings that allow you to more precisely control the results (and they have an active Discord). So the screen is brighter on the laptop, but is it higher resolution in the 3D mode? The Lume Pad 2 resolution is cut in half when it switches from 2D to 3D and much dimmer (but still great), so does the laptop screen do that? I have noticed that the whole Lume Pad gets very hot when it is in the 3D mode but not in the 2D!@@josh_3D
Things are very strange right now with these devices. They get announced, then never actually sell. The ones that did sell were in very limited quantities and are difficult to track down. I would recommend waiting because I think this will start to change next year
Thanks for this video, I don't believe there is anything else on YT about this tech in a detailed form like this. I have a big collection of 3d movies blu rays and .iso mkv files... I use power dvd 19 and ps3 ps4 to play them in 3d. Can you use this 3d tech to watch 3d blu rays and or backup files on pc? Also when you do the gaming aspect of this tec... is there a significant hit to performance when playing in 3d. For example the tomb raider games in 3d were much harder on the cpu and ram when playing in 3d on an nvidia 3dvision setup.
Thanks for saying this. When I first got my Lume Pad 1 two years ago I looked for a channel like this, and it didn't exist. So I made the channel I would have wanted. Any half or full side by side format video file you have can be viewed in 3D on the laptop and the quality of the 3D is very high. I haven't monitored exact performance during gaming, but I can hear the laptop working full throttle when running AAA titles in 3D. But I barely if at all notice any stuttering. Even if there are slight performance drops here and there, it looks and feels absolutely incredible to play, so I think it is more than worth it. But yes, I think it does push the hardware more running in 3D. My Laptop is the ACER Helios 300, which isn't quite as powerful as the Helios 15 Spatial Labs Edition, so I think the newer ones should have even better performance.
@@josh_3D @josh_3D thanks for the reply and I appreciate you starting this channel. In my opinion 3D is more impactful than hdr or 4k. 3d blurays usually use frame packed format, do you know if that works with spatiallabs? Usually SBS 3d isn't as crisp as proper frame packed 3d. Excited to see more content on this tech and can't wait to get the view 27 monitor when available. If you can get it to work, try the trine games in 3d, one of my all time favorite gaming experiences ever.
Wonder if Josh has investigated why Asus has not yet released either of its 2 new 3D ProArt laptops, which have been advertised for about a year now but are still not available to buy. Both seem to have excellent specs. Any comments ?
I've tried to figure this out, but not exactly sure why. In a recent tweet by the head of product at Leia Inc responding to someone asking a question like this basically said "then make sure to let ASUS know that you want it!". Which makes me think ASUS is hesitating to release it because they may be concerned there isn't a large enough audience interested in a product like that yet. I don't know for sure, but this could be a factor. And I suppose people like us reaching out to ASUS and telling them telling them that we want to see the laptop released could help
@@josh_3D Have tried to contact Asus to ask why their 2 new 3D laptops, which their website describes in lavish and impressive detail, have not yet been releaed for sale. I would prefer to buy one of these rather than the Acer - slightly bigger, lighter, 120 hz etc Asus don't seem to want to be contacted. I have tried and failed. Great pity ! Bill Irvine
If you are sitting a few feet away, it doesn't float out all the way to right in front of your eyes, but I'll test this out more and see how close it really gets in different situations.
@@DanielMazz The 2D to 3D conversion pop-out level seems to be limited to a couple inches off the screen at most, it won't come way out. When you watch native 3D videos or look at 3D models and things like that, the 3D can easily come half way between your screen and your eyes, if you really push the limits it can get within 6-7 inches of your eyes, maybe even closer. But just like real life if it starts to get close you need to strain your eyes to focus on something that close, just like holding a finger up 4 inches away from your eyes and looking at it. Maybe in the future 2D to 3D conversion will support more pop-out. The display can definitely handle it, I just think the conversion technology needs to become more advanced to take advantage of the level of pop-out that is actually possible
@@josh_3Dhi thank you for taking the time to look I really appreciate this information what stuff did you test or recommend testing if I saw this in computer shop. Also there is a updated version of this laptop I didn’t really get what had changed do you happen to know what has been improved with it
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I live near an oil refinery and i remember asking my dad to drive me around it as a kid
Nice! There was one that we would sometimes drive by when I was younger too and it always looked like some sort of futuristic city to me lit up at night
As a young adult, I would drive around one at night. Blade Runner definitely took cues from refineries for their city's look.
@@MadsterV same here when I had a Subaru I’d drive there lol
I usually like setting the pop-out at 50% with depth always at max, but I change the pop-out depending on how much ghosting there is. I mostly notice ghosting happening in contrasty areas.
This is the BEST video that I have seen demonstrating the capabilities and features of the 3D simulation.
impressive, but stil so expensive, hope some company release an openxr compatible 3d conversion driver
Anything else you would like to see on the Spatial Labs laptop? The 3D version of this video will be up at a later date on my other channel, for now check out this video in full 3D : czcams.com/video/jdoQLeLUAX0/video.html
Thanks for this video, I don't believe there is anything else on YT about this tech in a detailed form like this.
I have a big collection of 3d movies blu rays and .iso mkv files... I use power dvd 19 and ps3 ps4 to play them in 3d.
Can you use this 3d tech to watch 3d blu rays and or backup files on pc?
Also when you do the gaming aspect of this tec... is there a significant hit to performance when playing in 3d?
For example the tomb raider games in 3d were much harder on the cpu and ram when playing in 3d on an nvidia 3dvision setup.
I assume that Vudu is also blocked due to DRM - please confirm at your convenience. Is there anyway to save converted videos for playing on other devices, or editing out disparities ?
Finally - please give the "this video is avail in 3D on my other channel" announcement at the START, not the END of the video.
Thanks again for all you do to review these devices for the community of 3D lovers.
I'll look into Vudu! I didn't think to try it yet. On this laptop there doesn't seem to be any way to save converted videos. It only works in real time as you watch. Noted about the announcement
What do you think of it vs the Lume pad 2?
Thank You Josh, Is it possible to convert CZcams or any other video in 2D into 3D in real time without any distortion and artifaction? If yes, please demonstrate some CZcams videos...
Thanks for watching! There is still some artifact and choppiness that results from the conversion, but it can be done in real time for pretty much any video that doesn't block it, like Netflix or other paid streaming services. Personally I like the results, but I hope to see it improve over time. I do plan to make more videos showing this feature in greater detail and comparing conversion on different devices
@@josh_3D Great dear Josh, I will wait for new videos.
You implied that the 2D/3D conversion on the laptop is in some sense "better" than the 2D/3D conversion on the Lume Pad 2. Is there a different level or type of "conversion artifacts" on one device vs the other? I assume that they are using exactly the same conversion software since they have a business relationship. TrueGames isn't much of an incentive for the laptop now that we have UEVR. Also, I think you said on another video that the 3D screen is better on the laptop than the Lume Pad. Besides being bigger, is it higher resolution? I need a really good excuse to buy that expensive laptop. My plan is to just connect the Lume Pad 2 to one of those new 27 inch 4K 3D monitors that you mentioned and skip the laptop.
I think I'll do a direct comparison at some point, but I wouldn't say its better. I think the quality of the actual Lume Pad 2 conversion overall is better and doesn't seem to use the same technology. I think the ACER laptop is tech that was developed on ACER's end or supported by Dimenco, not the same as what Leia has been using. You can see more real proportions and depth overall with Leia's conversion, but the advantage of the Spatial Labs laptops is less cross talk much greater brightness. However there is less stability when things move quickly or the image pans to the side for example. I used to feel that the Lume Pad 2 was much better, but I think that ACER has updated and slightly improved the quality of the conversion and that the update last fall to LeiaTube added auto-reconvergence which actually made the output quality feel less smooth (probably because it is working harder to both convert and adjust convergence in real time) and it also makes the image noticeably move in and out of the screen as you watch which is distracting to me. This change prevents significant pop out from happening to limit crosstalk, but to me it lessens the level of immersion. I actually prefer more pop-out even with mild cross-talk over everything being dragged back to the level of the screen.
Thanks for the comparison. I think the Lume Pad conversion is amazing with a few "edge" artifacts, but all of the conversion softwares have different artifacts. Supposedly the Owl3D software for your PC is the best, but I have trouble seeing the differences. The Owl3D takes many hours to process, but it has a bunch of settings that allow you to more precisely control the results (and they have an active Discord). So the screen is brighter on the laptop, but is it higher resolution in the 3D mode? The Lume Pad 2 resolution is cut in half when it switches from 2D to 3D and much dimmer (but still great), so does the laptop screen do that? I have noticed that the whole Lume Pad gets very hot when it is in the 3D mode but not in the 2D!@@josh_3D
I can't find it in stock anywhere, is it discontinued? Are there any new 3D laptops available to buy?
Things are very strange right now with these devices. They get announced, then never actually sell. The ones that did sell were in very limited quantities and are difficult to track down. I would recommend waiting because I think this will start to change next year
@@josh_3D okay ☺️
Thanks for this video, I don't believe there is anything else on YT about this tech in a detailed form like this.
I have a big collection of 3d movies blu rays and .iso mkv files... I use power dvd 19 and ps3 ps4 to play them in 3d.
Can you use this 3d tech to watch 3d blu rays and or backup files on pc?
Also when you do the gaming aspect of this tec... is there a significant hit to performance when playing in 3d.
For example the tomb raider games in 3d were much harder on the cpu and ram when playing in 3d on an nvidia 3dvision setup.
Thanks for saying this. When I first got my Lume Pad 1 two years ago I looked for a channel like this, and it didn't exist. So I made the channel I would have wanted. Any half or full side by side format video file you have can be viewed in 3D on the laptop and the quality of the 3D is very high. I haven't monitored exact performance during gaming, but I can hear the laptop working full throttle when running AAA titles in 3D. But I barely if at all notice any stuttering. Even if there are slight performance drops here and there, it looks and feels absolutely incredible to play, so I think it is more than worth it. But yes, I think it does push the hardware more running in 3D. My Laptop is the ACER Helios 300, which isn't quite as powerful as the Helios 15 Spatial Labs Edition, so I think the newer ones should have even better performance.
@@josh_3D @josh_3D thanks for the reply and I appreciate you starting this channel. In my opinion 3D is more impactful than hdr or 4k. 3d blurays usually use frame packed format, do you know if that works with spatiallabs? Usually SBS 3d isn't as crisp as proper frame packed 3d.
Excited to see more content on this tech and can't wait to get the view 27 monitor when available.
If you can get it to work, try the trine games in 3d, one of my all time favorite gaming experiences ever.
so if you're in full screen, can you convert videos games that are not supported yet?
Yes you actually can, with mixed results. This is one of the coolest things about it and I'm planning to make a video on this feature
@@josh_3D thanks ! :D I'll wait for samsung 3d screen announcement to buy one
What’s the channels name?
Have you tested this with any multiplayer games? Im curious if it would get flagged by anticheat
I tried it with some noncompetitive multiplayer modes in games like Halo Master Chief Collection and it worked
Wonder if Josh has investigated why Asus has not yet released either of its 2 new 3D ProArt laptops, which have been advertised for about a year now but are still not available to buy. Both seem to have excellent specs. Any comments ?
I've tried to figure this out, but not exactly sure why. In a recent tweet by the head of product at Leia Inc responding to someone asking a question like this basically said "then make sure to let ASUS know that you want it!". Which makes me think ASUS is hesitating to release it because they may be concerned there isn't a large enough audience interested in a product like that yet. I don't know for sure, but this could be a factor. And I suppose people like us reaching out to ASUS and telling them telling them that we want to see the laptop released could help
@@josh_3D
Have tried to contact Asus to ask why their 2 new 3D laptops, which their website describes in lavish and impressive detail, have not yet been releaed for sale. I would prefer to buy one of these rather than the Acer - slightly bigger, lighter, 120 hz etc
Asus don't seem to want to be contacted. I have tried and failed. Great pity !
Bill Irvine
@@josh_3Dthat was me
Can you get a pop out that comes right in front of your eyes
If you are sitting a few feet away, it doesn't float out all the way to right in front of your eyes, but I'll test this out more and see how close it really gets in different situations.
@@josh_3D thanks for testing
@@josh_3Dhey how are you do you have any updates
@@DanielMazz The 2D to 3D conversion pop-out level seems to be limited to a couple inches off the screen at most, it won't come way out. When you watch native 3D videos or look at 3D models and things like that, the 3D can easily come half way between your screen and your eyes, if you really push the limits it can get within 6-7 inches of your eyes, maybe even closer. But just like real life if it starts to get close you need to strain your eyes to focus on something that close, just like holding a finger up 4 inches away from your eyes and looking at it. Maybe in the future 2D to 3D conversion will support more pop-out. The display can definitely handle it, I just think the conversion technology needs to become more advanced to take advantage of the level of pop-out that is actually possible
@@josh_3Dhi thank you for taking the time to look I really appreciate this information what stuff did you test or recommend testing if I saw this in computer shop. Also there is a updated version of this laptop I didn’t really get what had changed do you happen to know what has been improved with it