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  • First Take's Stephen A. Smith and Max Kellerman disagree over Floyd Mayweather's undefeated record.
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  • @espn
    @espn  Před 6 lety +135

    If Floyd Mayweather beats Conor McGregor, should it count towards his undefeated record?

    • @raiderscat
      @raiderscat Před 6 lety +15

      ESPN should Browns preseason wins count as regular season wins?

    • @luewhop7562
      @luewhop7562 Před 6 lety +4

      @Espn If Floyd Mayweather wins it shouldn't count. If Conor McGregor wins it counts. Get him out of here coach.

    • @JHOLMES113
      @JHOLMES113 Před 6 lety

      Hell no..if he lost it wouldn't count but celebrated.

    • @ericjohnson3203
      @ericjohnson3203 Před 6 lety +3

      Sas just disagreed for nothing. A amateur is a amateur....Connor is just already famous

    • @nosley25
      @nosley25 Před 6 lety +4

      The fight is a fucking joke

  • @tylerm993
    @tylerm993 Před 6 lety +427

    Max gets that serious face when its a boxing topic lol he knows he knows way more than Steven A on the subject

    • @jamespravong9139
      @jamespravong9139 Před 4 lety +7

      He should just stick with boxing. Not too many analysts can say they know more about the subject.

    • @firellparker7463
      @firellparker7463 Před 3 lety

      Yeah but stephen A has said this

    • @maroccomar2334
      @maroccomar2334 Před 3 lety

      Max also knows that May record is so great because he fought 22 champions and hofers but he dont say that. Now listen to older interviews when May was under Bob Aurim then he was the best ever haha

    • @regginsouth9565
      @regginsouth9565 Před 3 lety +2

      Stephen becomes Stephen B when max is around.

    • @choiceda5920
      @choiceda5920 Před rokem +1

      @@maroccomar2334 TBE as far as the business of boxing and maxing out on earnings and having minimal injuries, but he’s not the GOAT.

  • @DanielOrteez
    @DanielOrteez Před 6 lety +431

    Mayweather is already 50-0. He defeated the Big Show at WrestleMania 24.

    • @KillyJoe
      @KillyJoe Před 5 lety +39

      Daniel Orteez 51-0 didn’t he beat his ole lady ass

    • @godsenddjoker5341
      @godsenddjoker5341 Před 4 lety +8

      fake ass floyd

    • @JDVN7
      @JDVN7 Před 4 lety +1

      @@godsenddjoker5341 Fraud Floyd sounds a bit better

    • @yjofloda9470
      @yjofloda9470 Před 4 lety +1

      Mayweather Your fake champion

    • @izuokoko7345
      @izuokoko7345 Před 3 lety

      That’s scripted dumb as

  • @ToxicKingMad
    @ToxicKingMad Před 6 lety +258

    Cringe anytime Stephen A attempts to argue Boxing with Max.

    • @joseromero81
      @joseromero81 Před 3 lety +11

      It's like a baby arguing with a professor lol.

  • @JayEss2k
    @JayEss2k Před 6 lety +187

    Max Kellerman's boxing knowledge is on point

    • @andpeoplesayineedalife6418
      @andpeoplesayineedalife6418 Před 3 lety +1

      Nelson bolanos never went 50 and 0 he finished 34 and 5 first time I’ve seen him wrong though

  • @marcelpye9826
    @marcelpye9826 Před 6 lety +504

    So if he lose does it count?

    • @RichDoe9
      @RichDoe9 Před 6 lety +16

      if he wins that shit dont count..and im a big Mayweather fan

    • @mneno1218
      @mneno1218 Před 6 lety +73

      Rich Jackson what? So answer bro question if he loses​ will he be 49-1..if so then the win should count too if not then this just a charity fight and we all know that ain't the case.

    • @RichDoe9
      @RichDoe9 Před 6 lety +7

      If he loses give him 49- 1 but if he wins I dont want to see him bragging about being 50- 0

    • @rayrza2
      @rayrza2 Před 6 lety +4

      idk, is the Antonio Inoki fight on Muhammad Ali's record?

    • @sejobotonjic9630
      @sejobotonjic9630 Před 6 lety +2

      rayrza2 they didnt fight in boxing, so the record is not on alis boxing record. It was a kind of free fight

  • @clapttm1903
    @clapttm1903 Před 6 lety +75

    Max kellermans the best hands down

    • @ayoaye2276
      @ayoaye2276 Před 3 lety +1

      my wife lets me watch espn when he's on

  • @frankokunbor4108
    @frankokunbor4108 Před 6 lety +35

    max always looking like he about to spit some bars whenever given the opportunity

  • @jeromeh6254
    @jeromeh6254 Před 6 lety +60

    Why the fuck do they have to speak of it in such a complicated way. It's a boxing match that Mayweather wanted, therefore, whether he wins or loses, it should go on his record. It's that simple

    • @GeeDBradley
      @GeeDBradley Před 6 lety +12

      Jerome H lets not forget the fact that Conor called him out and then fans wanted it before Floyd even entertained it.

    • @andremcfarlane2821
      @andremcfarlane2821 Před 6 lety

      James Jones Very True

    • @themaddogofcrenshaw7367
      @themaddogofcrenshaw7367 Před 6 lety +1

      I was about to say the same thing. Floyd even said in interviews he didn't even know Connor McGregor was until he heard him calling him out in multiple interviews and press conferences

    • @fencefirst2722
      @fencefirst2722 Před 6 lety +1

      Jerome H Randy got the W vs Toney.... Sooo

    • @jeromeh6254
      @jeromeh6254 Před 6 lety +1

      It's true but Mayweather was retired, it's not like he was forced to take the fight. He took it upon himself to accept it

  • @DUB_87
    @DUB_87 Před 6 lety +156

    If McGregor counts, Then The Big Show should count too.

    • @notafaker
      @notafaker Před 6 lety +6

      Robert Wisdom uh Floyd beat Big Show

    • @fencefirst2722
      @fencefirst2722 Před 6 lety +2

      Robert Wisdom lol

    • @fencefirst2722
      @fencefirst2722 Před 6 lety +20

      Yeah.. So he's already 50-0

    • @DUB_87
      @DUB_87 Před 6 lety +2

      Rap Sure-Exactly. Lol.

    • @DUB_87
      @DUB_87 Před 6 lety +3

      Malcolm Little-Exactly. He should already be 50-0

  • @JohnWick-xe2qb
    @JohnWick-xe2qb Před 4 lety +31

    Max won Unanimous here, Stephen A. was out classed by Max lol Stephen A. is in Maywetaher's pay day. hahaha

  • @megumi6499
    @megumi6499 Před 6 lety +33

    Once Conor got his boxing license, he became a professional boxer. He's no different than Canelo or Mosley. He's entering his first professional fight, but it is a sanctioned and professional fight nonetheless. All the stats in this fight should count and should go on the record of both fighters.
    Let's say, instead of Conor, Floyd fought a no name amateur making his pro debut. That would still be counted as a professional fight and it would count as Floyd having a 50-0 record. Just because it's a pro debut doesn't mean it doesn't count.
    People only call this fight an "exhibition" because of how lopsided they feel this fight will be. This isn't Thunderlips vs Rocky. Conor isn't stepping into the ring barefoot wearing 4 oz gloves.

    • @GeeDBradley
      @GeeDBradley Před 6 lety +1

      Megumi I somewhat agree cause all his wins are knockouts and have been done mostly standing up.

    • @4th19th2
      @4th19th2 Před 3 lety

      Just haters.

    • @4th19th2
      @4th19th2 Před 3 lety

      Whacugondowiththeselosers

  • @TheSCIOnce
    @TheSCIOnce Před 6 lety +5

    Max is 1000% correct. 50-0 will be legit but has nothing to do with the heavyweight record. There are fighters below heavyweight that retired undefeated and some that had more than 50 wins.

  • @Reznick
    @Reznick Před 6 lety +12

    Anyone else really happy that boxing is becoming big on First Take?

  • @versastylemusicclub6898
    @versastylemusicclub6898 Před 6 lety +15

    Stephen A. Smith You are a CLOWN!

  • @devindixon699
    @devindixon699 Před 6 lety +2

    I remember as a child you couldn't pay me to sit and watch sport discussions but now I watch it religiously and always find myself intrigued.

  • @Slenderirl
    @Slenderirl Před 6 lety +37

    Dayum, I agree with max on the one.

    • @Drizzydid
      @Drizzydid Před 6 lety +2

      Lol you sound surprised to say that

    • @cortezfernandez7475
      @cortezfernandez7475 Před 5 lety +1

      Max just obliterated SA AGAIN

    • @095mateusg
      @095mateusg Před 4 lety +1

      He's a lot better when it comes to commentating on Boxing.

  • @UglyFatNerd
    @UglyFatNerd Před 6 lety +3

    SAS has that "I think I know everything" voice in this video. He always thinks he knows everything, but he only speaks in this tone sometimes

  • @killerbee691
    @killerbee691 Před 4 lety +76

    Floyd may be an undefeated fighter but clearly he's not the Greatest of all time. 🤭

    • @markydan1232
      @markydan1232 Před 3 lety +1

      Name one fighter who can beat Floyd, other than Sugar Ray Leonard

    • @killerbee691
      @killerbee691 Před 3 lety +8

      @@markydan1232 castillo. Easy

    • @markydan1232
      @markydan1232 Před 3 lety +9

      @@killerbee691 Castillo did not win either of those fights, y’all need to stop

    • @Luckymag-if4dw
      @Luckymag-if4dw Před 3 lety +1

      @@markydan1232 Whitaker in my opinion would be the major favourite against Floyd

    • @amerikwatson6192
      @amerikwatson6192 Před 3 lety +5

      Floyd definitely the greatest of all time. Over Ali over ray Leonard.

  • @giotungul7971
    @giotungul7971 Před 4 lety +1

    Sometimes numbers are just a numbers

  • @JRagMusic
    @JRagMusic Před 6 lety +6

    so then should it be 49-1 if he should lose??? then it shouldn't count either way....

  • @boosiejones9727
    @boosiejones9727 Před 6 lety +27

    max is right

  • @GymHustle
    @GymHustle Před 6 lety +6

    so if Conor somehow ko's Mayweather, everyone would want that loss to be on his professional record.

  • @HayzThaGreat
    @HayzThaGreat Před 6 lety +1

    You ever tried counting how many times Max blinks when he listening to someone else talk......

  • @MrG22333
    @MrG22333 Před 6 lety +5

    I bet if Floyd were to lose, every one will say he should be 49-0

  • @ottoramirez1332
    @ottoramirez1332 Před 6 lety

    Anyone can tell me what's the name of the song at 0:50?

  • @Arnold.Hey85
    @Arnold.Hey85 Před 6 lety

    I've only heard the media count this as #50.

  • @sportsgenius1616
    @sportsgenius1616 Před 6 lety +10

    Finito lopez 51-0 retired as champion in the 90s

  • @bozeeke
    @bozeeke Před 6 lety +2

    Well the point both Max and Steven A. are missing (which surprises me given that they are supposedly boxing experts) is that 50-0 is not really a record. Marciano's 49-0 is the longest undefeated streak only in the heavyweight division. The longest record in all of boxing is 87-0 set by Julio Cesar Chavez Sr. Chavez went 87-0 before having a draw, then went 91-0-1 before finally losing a fight, plus there have been several previous champions with more than 50 wins on their resume prior to losing. As I said, 49-0 is only the heavyweight record. Floyd can't touch that because he's never competed at heavyweight. He doesn't qualify to chase the Marciano record due to not competing in that weight class and at age 40 he will never catch Chavez at 87-0. I can't believe how Max, a supposed boxing expert doesn't get that.

  • @ARMYEXERCISE
    @ARMYEXERCISE Před 3 lety +1

    Pacquiao at 42, is scheduled to fight on August 21, 2021 against the undefeated / unified WBC & IBF 147lbs champion E. Spence Jr an eleven years younger. They're fighting for the "Lineal', Ring plus WBA, WBC, IBF titles. Spence is much taller, has longer reach, way bigger, heavier. And he's the current # 1 in the Welterweight plus the # 5 in the Pound for Pound best as of June 25, 2021.

  • @GoldenB101
    @GoldenB101 Před 6 lety +1

    depends on how good the fight is...

  • @justingaethje8632
    @justingaethje8632 Před 6 lety +3

    Are they fighting for the belt?

  • @meteorhail5021
    @meteorhail5021 Před 6 lety +5

    I don't really get how Mayweather fans do numbers but I guess it's the illiteracy thing since 0 is the only number you're familiar with... birds of a feather do flock together. Ask about Julio César Chávez, Willie Pep, Jimmy Wilde look at the numbers then come back and make that noise!

  • @Bklynstndup
    @Bklynstndup Před 6 lety +10

    Julio Caesar Chavez fought cab drivers

  • @edisonjara900
    @edisonjara900 Před 4 lety +3

    Max definitely earns this paycheck, he's a knowledgeable SOB

  • @NinoBrownBoxing
    @NinoBrownBoxing Před 6 lety +7

    I agree with Max he used facts

  • @mneno1218
    @mneno1218 Před 6 lety +1

    It don't matter if he deserves it or not if he wins he will have it end of conversation.

  • @bizarresportynerd6136
    @bizarresportynerd6136 Před 6 lety

    regardless of the circumstances its a pro fight, win or lose it counts

  • @jaymasterflash9396
    @jaymasterflash9396 Před 4 lety +1

    Stephen A: I respectfully disagree with you .. totally. 😐

  • @shortyraw1983
    @shortyraw1983 Před 6 lety

    Max over there lookin like the undertaker 😂

  • @adrianneal5004
    @adrianneal5004 Před 6 lety

    Alot of those all time greats from back in the day faught guys who were making there 1st pro debut or fighting guys with losing records...Sugar Ray Robinson faught like 31-32 different fighters that were below 500 fighters or making there pro debuts... Thats not even counting guys who had double digit losess...

  • @letsgetsocialinfo
    @letsgetsocialinfo Před 6 lety +3

    Steven a is correct. This event is a disgrace and an insult to all boxers

  • @jordanmitchell632
    @jordanmitchell632 Před 3 lety +1

    1:25 exactly why I believe it counts as a 50th win, 100% agree with max

  • @GeeDBradley
    @GeeDBradley Před 6 lety +2

    This is my whole ordeal with this, Rocky had a real padded record and there's many facts on that. Floyd had come back fights with guys that were tune up fights and would fight the champ the next fight. Rocky would face bums fight after fight and there are stories on some fighters taking dives. Floyd doesn't have that kind of history with questionable losses other than maybe a fight that was very close and he gave him a rematch to just shut him up.

  • @Anfmethodjor
    @Anfmethodjor Před 3 lety

    If your first fight counts, as the beginning of your professional career, your last fight should count as well even if its being against a first timer professional boxer, who by the is the an elite UFC fighter.

  • @holladaze9959
    @holladaze9959 Před 6 lety +2

    MAX STOP BLINKING!!

  • @joshuabradford7690
    @joshuabradford7690 Před 6 lety +10

    Everybody always goes against mayweather ever since he started boxing, and he always prove people wrong. I don't know how people hate greatness. 50-0

  • @bigcamtrill1316
    @bigcamtrill1316 Před 6 lety +1

    Rocky Marciana fought bums and won some of them fights due to the Mafia making them guys "dive". Most people forget Marciano had ties with the Mafia.

  • @fencefirst2722
    @fencefirst2722 Před 6 lety

    Did Randy get a W vs Toney? Yes.. Nuff said

  • @darkrising2501
    @darkrising2501 Před 2 lety

    Beautifully said by both guys 👍

  • @Ghostdog198
    @Ghostdog198 Před 6 lety +4

    Going to 50 for fighting an MMA fighter that's crazy I can't believe this shit Mayweather stealing every casual money.

    • @chevaughnmiller24
      @chevaughnmiller24 Před 6 lety

      Only boxing fans who support domestic violence support floyd and think he is tbe. Theres no way imma respect a man that fought his wife b4 and waited for a ko b4 he finally took a fight with manny

    • @reidos8992
      @reidos8992 Před 6 lety +2

      Chevaughn Miller bro I can guarantee somebody you like in music, TV shows or whatever has done some shit and you still rock with em. I ain't no damn woman beater at all I don't condone it but get tf over it bruh be went to jail time served. Plus that shit was fishy anyway that lady ain't have no scars or nothing on her but whatever

  • @druniversex7223
    @druniversex7223 Před 6 lety

    All yall responding we gone see what yall really made of when the time right we all see how crazy shit really getting

  • @clayg1288
    @clayg1288 Před 6 lety +2

    It should count! Anytime Floyd Steps in the ring AND FIGHTS IN A Professional Licensed Contest It Should count. Because on any give day he can lose... So, if you count the loses, you most definitely have to count the wins....

  • @druniversex7223
    @druniversex7223 Před 6 lety

    Bil cosby- r kelly- bobbi valentino- usher raymond- magic -johnson- zach Randolph- including there has been about 3 rappers being shot in the last 3 weeks

  • @kimstuart7989
    @kimstuart7989 Před 6 lety

    i don't think this one is how you feel if it should count or not, it just is what it is. correct me if im wrong but its a sanctioned event with signed contracts so it is a real fight and it should count. Is this being promoted as an exhibition?

  • @andrewkupkee
    @andrewkupkee Před 6 lety

    Whether it should or shouldn't it does. It's on the books. Its a sanctioned boxing match.

  • @euphorik5152
    @euphorik5152 Před 6 lety

    why does kellerman blink 3 times a second lol

  • @bingjeffrey93
    @bingjeffrey93 Před 6 lety +3

    Max, we love you.

  • @armandoochoa9287
    @armandoochoa9287 Před 6 lety

    There's no way it should count. Like Stephen A. Smith said Connor is not even a boxer, so to me I don't think it should count.

  • @sportshighlights996
    @sportshighlights996 Před 6 lety

    What song is that

  • @alexanderenopia2585
    @alexanderenopia2585 Před 4 lety

    Rocky jr just wants the rematch to happen, he wanted floyd to hit the bait

  • @alanwest1067
    @alanwest1067 Před 3 lety

    The comparisons that Max used to rationalize this are both ridiculous and disgraceful.

  • @anthonygibson5559
    @anthonygibson5559 Před 6 lety

    Based on what was said is it accurate to say if he loses it doesn't count?

  • @blahblah-mh3nw
    @blahblah-mh3nw Před 3 lety

    Mayweather’s fight against the Big Show on WWE should count.

  • @smokebone6294
    @smokebone6294 Před 6 lety

    Why wouldn't this fight count tf

  • @jnmaher
    @jnmaher Před 6 lety

    Stephen (and Marciano jr.) are correct in saying that this outcome should not effect either of their records because of the obvious.

  • @dionesiolagas3185
    @dionesiolagas3185 Před 3 lety +2

    Floyd he lost five times but the judges something wrong

  • @dannythegreat1406
    @dannythegreat1406 Před 6 lety +1

    chavez sr fought 45 bums in mexcio

  • @djdarrenbarnes
    @djdarrenbarnes Před 6 lety +6

    He cannot compare himself to rocky Marciano anyway, Rocky had 43 wins by knockout, therefore a better record !!

    • @mauricewillims1656
      @mauricewillims1656 Před 6 lety +4

      darren barnes stupid..stupid. George foreman a.c. more ko.than ali...is he better ..stay out of way u Do not no about

    • @djdarrenbarnes
      @djdarrenbarnes Před 6 lety +1

      Maurice Willims 49-0 26 knockouts, 49-0 43 knockouts ..... there it is right there, so tell me who has the better record moron ....... doesn't matter anyway, it'll be 49-1 soon enough !!

    • @jplatnuim
      @jplatnuim Před 6 lety +1

      darren barnes a ko does not equate to a better win. Floyd goes out and wins 80% of the rounds in just about every fight. In several of Marciano's fights he was knocked down and had to struggle to a win.

    • @djdarrenbarnes
      @djdarrenbarnes Před 6 lety

      jamal bethune whether he struggled or not he still knocked out all but 6 of em. You keep living up mayweathers arse and throw your comments elsewhere

    • @tyroniussupapookiemcleroy1403
      @tyroniussupapookiemcleroy1403 Před 6 lety

      darren barnes stfu idiot. 50-0

  • @tredavidson717
    @tredavidson717 Před 6 lety

    Randy couture fought James toney

  • @zerocool1344
    @zerocool1344 Před 6 lety

    49 - 1, it's just what's going to happen... The world will see Saturday...

  • @dadame2423
    @dadame2423 Před 4 lety

    How do you disagree with max kellerman when it comes to boxing

  • @christenbuggs1819
    @christenbuggs1819 Před 6 lety +3

    people talk all this shit about floyds record but he fought his fights in america every other so called undefeated fighter like chavez,duran,canelo majority of their fights was not in america so im not sayin they wouldnt be undefeated i just kno they wouldnt have that many fights on their record

  • @SafeHaven-qh7qo
    @SafeHaven-qh7qo Před 6 lety +1

    If you count a loss then you have to count a win as well. If Floyd wins he should be recognised as 50-0

  • @yuvanath
    @yuvanath Před 6 lety

    It's gonna count as a 1 in the defeat section...

  • @SugarRay2
    @SugarRay2 Před 5 lety

    Should have been counted as an exhibition fight

  • @talkischeap90sbaby83
    @talkischeap90sbaby83 Před 6 lety +2

    Floyd changed the game to where if you have a loss on your record your a scrub lol

    • @donniet348
      @donniet348 Před 4 lety +1

      That wasnt a good change. Fighter are now being "safe" picking matches bc 1 loss could end them. Those are ppl fans, not boxing fans.

  • @stevenmonash6284
    @stevenmonash6284 Před 6 lety

    Marciona fought at heavy weight.. much harder to do.. than the light weight or feather weight or batam weight divisions..

    • @AWesker99
      @AWesker99 Před 3 lety +1

      No it's not. The lighter weight classes have much more technically superior boxers. Most heavyweights are slow, basic, and uncoordinated, which is why Ali and Tyson's speed, movement, and technical ability was so revered. That's commonplace for anybody below 160.

  • @breakaway2x
    @breakaway2x Před 6 lety +1

    If you are undefeated, it only means that you didn't have the balls to fight better opponents. There is no such thing as an undefeated or perfect fighter. Greatness doesn't come from being undefeated, it comes from facing adversity and overcoming it. Floyd hasn't bothered to take on the best at their best (ie. Pacquiao, Mosely, Marquez, etc)....were all out of their primes or certain conditions they had to meet that diminished their levels (ie see Marquez and how much weight he had to put on in such a short time...he looked fat...then look at him later vs pacquiao how he was ripped and on roids).
    Floyd ducked a lot of great fights out there....he should have taken on a prime Sergio Martinez and GGG.

  • @wilfredodominicregalado4913

    They don't wanna count it because it may be used as an argument in case Floyd loses the fight, which I don't think he will. (50-0 or 49-1 a fight is a fight.)

  • @thegr8one572
    @thegr8one572 Před 6 lety

    Flip side of that is If ( big if) F.M. losses ...will the haters count it as a loss? 🤔

  • @lxkn0745
    @lxkn0745 Před 6 lety

    This is a professional boxing match sanctioned by real boxing rules in the T-Mobile Arena. Both teams have signed their contacts into having their fighters compete in professional boxing matches, and both teams agreed to have a boxing match with a certified referee. This is a REAL boxing match, it doesn't fucking matter if Floyd is fighting Helen Keller. It's a real fight, it counts towards his record win or lose.

  • @whatever9042
    @whatever9042 Před 4 lety

    I love how people think the past was this glorious integrity. Boxing was always corrupt even from the beginning.

  • @LloydAlmighty
    @LloydAlmighty Před 6 lety +1

    But if he loses the fight then yall gonna wanna count it on his record 😒😒😒

  • @handfulofragtags9530
    @handfulofragtags9530 Před 6 lety

    Compare any of the tomato cans Marciano beat compared to Conor. It should count.

  • @connor5773
    @connor5773 Před 6 lety +201

    Mayweather fought anybody who was thought of better than him and beat them easily he deserves this record more than anyone, so what it's gonna be non competitive but he has done over 10 years of world championship fights

    • @raiderscat
      @raiderscat Před 6 lety +3

      Connor I bet you would be okay with Serena Williams vs Roger Federer.

    • @shawnnyc100able
      @shawnnyc100able Před 6 lety +17

      Terrible comparison...

    • @kqvinhd1998
      @kqvinhd1998 Před 6 lety +13

      He fought everyone out of their prime or when they were being hyped up and too young

    • @dafcorleone
      @dafcorleone Před 6 lety +13

      Mayweather always cherry picked his opponents, everyone knows that. He fought Pacman past his prime.

    • @enriquecarrizoza3000
      @enriquecarrizoza3000 Před 6 lety +7

      he fought Pacquiao out of his prime he waited too long, enough time when he knew he would win he lost to maidana he lost to castillo he lost to de la hoya he didn't fight GGG i think that says enough of Mayweather

  • @WoolfJ35
    @WoolfJ35 Před 2 lety

    Max brought facts and historical context and SAS brought his feelings smh

  • @camcamchannel273
    @camcamchannel273 Před 3 lety

    I shouldn't have counted.

  • @jeffreydandridge1956
    @jeffreydandridge1956 Před 6 lety +1

    If that's the case then if Floyd lose should it count. This should go both ways

  • @8countsports
    @8countsports Před 6 lety +2

    Thank you Max!!!!!! 100%

  • @antoniotuck4216
    @antoniotuck4216 Před 6 lety

    Exhibition Fight for alot of money n 2 ppl who don't like each other. Remind me of Rocky vs Thunderlips lol

  • @donaldlandon7594
    @donaldlandon7594 Před 6 lety

    He's applauding his unbeaten wrecked

  • @leseanwalston7916
    @leseanwalston7916 Před 6 lety

    I don't think people should put these records in one box. Max is right because majority boxing rankings don't put Marciano in top 5 and sometimes not even top ten all-time because of his mediocre competition compared to others. It should just be about top Middleweight boxers and top Heavyweight boxers, regardless of record beacuse alot of fights are questionable

  • @smallgoon
    @smallgoon Před 6 lety

    I agree it counts but max completely missed on comparing a pro-debut of a guy who won an Olympic in boxing to a guy making his pro-debut and is an MMA... Totally missed it there

  • @animeslayer24
    @animeslayer24 Před 4 lety

    Molly looks so different now

  • @vict0ree
    @vict0ree Před 6 lety

    Without money these matches would never happen . So I'm not interested in the money issue unless it's directly tied to some sort of 'fix' or cheating . Obviously millions of people beg for these dream matchups for years and it's the money that breaks the dismissive party's wall every time. So if you go after the money aspect then you're arguing in favor of never seeing another dream matchup like this or others that are sometimes legendary historical events in sports. As far as the record is concerned, I see really good arguments on both sides of this , I'd hate to be the one who ultimately signs off either way, I'd probably flip a coin in private 😁 But this is a good opportunity to establish the policy for future similar circumstances surrounding a crossover fight .

  • @kiray99
    @kiray99 Před 6 lety

    Ok if it doesn't count to 50-0, then it shouldn't count as 49-1 if he loses

  • @jmelanin2885
    @jmelanin2885 Před 6 lety +1

    If Floyd loses to Conor, I bet they gonna say it counts.

  • @KeanuPitt
    @KeanuPitt Před 6 lety

    Quick question, aren't they in the same building? Why tf they doing this split screen crap?

  • @kallmetae5819
    @kallmetae5819 Před 6 lety

    His w against big show at wrestlemania should count 😂