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United's ability to make anyone look prime xavi, iniesta is astounding 😂😂😂
Still glad that we got 3 points, a more clinical tesm would've put 4-5 against us
This is so true. We make every midfield look amazing.
Watch wolves get pummeled in the EPL by a team that can actually put them under pressure.
@@MrJayManUtd08 nunes nd nato r really good ball carries bro the deff mid behind dem r shxt tho
@@MrJayManUtd08 Wolves will be a relegation contender, been obvious since the pre season. I was expecting a fought, yet combfortable win. United needs a big improvement
That's the catch though , a better team would press us and hence ten hags plan would end up working , we lost because wolves managed to be compact without the ball. Whereas city , Liverpool , Arsenal, newcastle, Chelsea, all tend to press higher up the pitch bringing onanas natural skill into play and we can overload the midfield, that's why we struggle against bottom half teams, we need to learn to break down the low block and the this modern lowblock- midblock hybrid.
Maguire still around. Have hope
Onana's work became quite difficult because Ten Hag was late in playing Pelistri. From the first minute, he should be very diligent in guarding the defense and helping the attack as well.
Manutd were on the backfoot throughout the game and we barely scraped through with that Varane header. Inexperience was evident in Garnacho's game while Antony was similarly poor on the right. Hard to believe how static our forwards were in the ETH era. Props to Wolves for playing a much better game with their midfield Matheus Nunes executing those beautiful runs, only to be dissapointed by their impotent strikers. Let's hope we train hard and get back in the next fixture!
People wonder why a semi competent striker is worth circa 50+ million. Wolves finishing is an example of that.
Still kept Mount and Garnacho after half time 🤦
Sancho was a big positive. Changed the game when he came on. I don't think Garnacho is ready to start games yet. He looks best as an impact sub against tiring fullbacks. Ten Hag needs to put Rashford back on the left (from where he scored 30 goals last season) and play Sancho as the false 9 which worked so brilliantly against Arsenal during pre-season.
yes the team's attacks became more fluid when he came on true. But if u look at wolves chances after he was subbed in, the left flank kept getting exposed bc he didn't track back. Shaw was completely outnumbered and overwhelmed at the end bc sancho neglected his defensive duties (and also bc of eriksen's poor man marking)
@@aqilakramghazali3980 True. That’s because Rashford continued to play as a striker (which he isn’t good at and hates). Rashford and Shaw have developed an excellent understanding last season. Ten Hag really shouldn’t mess with it.
True garnacho is a super sub
Bro thank you, I posted a similar comment on another video, play Sancho as a false 9 or on the right, Rashford on the left and garnacho as an impact sub. Tell Casemiro to be conservative and not just slide all the time. There is work to be done
I think United should consider a box midfield 4 the way Barcelona do it. Barcelona start Gavi or Pedri wide left on paper but in the game, Balde provides the width & Pedri/Gavi tucks in. Ten Hag should consider starting Sancho on that left side instead of Garnacho so when Shaw overlaps & provides width, Sancho tucks in the central areas where he usually is more comfortable anyway. That also allows AWB to stay back in a defensive 3 where he won’t have much ball playing responsibilities & can focus on transition defense & 1v1s like Walker at City. This setup should be good until they find a striker & Rashford can go back on the left to provide the width & 1v1s strength & switch system. Shaw is a great crosser as well. Inverting him wastes his talent. Lisandro at the LCB is good for dictating play from deep but also carry the ball to create even more overloads & midfield superiority. It also keeps that Diamond play out the back shape they tried against wolves with Onana. Can play out from the back or go long & have bodies around for the second ball. Box midfield of Bruno & Casemiro as the pivots & Mount & Sancho as free 8s. Antony stays wide right.
Wolves looked good on and off the ball. They just didn’t convert their chances in the box. I could see Lepetegui’s print on the club, hopefully O’Neill will gradually inject his philosophy and game model to avoid shocking the club.
Wolves were robbed of a point last night.
@@rob5249exactly idk how that wasn’t a pen. Onana was literally flapping his hands like a baby bird learning to fly. Shocking decision. Ik they weren’t gonna give when they were taking long to make the decision
@@chris.48 what’s worse is ten hags lack of honesty. Be honest and say your keeper phucked up again. Between mount, onana and buying an injured player! Ten hag is gonna tank this year
@@rob5249 he’s such a dishonest person I don’t even trust that guy after what he did to Ronaldo lol saying “he’s part of my plans” just to leave him on the sidelines. So your telling me as a coach coming into a team you don’t look at how your players play and if they’ll suit ur system or not?
@@chris.48 I’m worried about this guy! He was born into wealth has never wanted for anything in his life. A manager for United should come from nothing and be a leader. Like fergie. He’ll never be a fergie
Gary O'Neil is an underrated coach, he had such a smart gameplan to nullify united, if only he had clinical forwards at his disposal...
lets be clear Ten Hag also didn't know what to expect of Gary
@@perennialminddid he not play his Bournemouth team last year?
@@perennialmind but thats not an excuse , look at uniteds squad , worth 10 times morw
@@user-ty7nz4gi6w give credit where credit is due mate
If Gary o Neil can figure United out in their first game. What do you wanna say when United faces teams like Liverpool, city or arsenal after watching this game
United's structure was so poor.
Last season saw us primarily use a 3-2-5 in possession with Eriksen along Casemiro in a 2, pushing Shaw up alongside our front 4. This was very effective because we had Rashford in his favoured left half space and Shaw on the overlap. We have now shifted to a 3-1-6 which in theory works but not with Casemiro as the lone pivot, our right hand side was not press resistant enough with Varane and Wan-Bissaka to resist Wolves' strong wide pressure, forcing us to play regressive balls constantly and killing our tempo. Either Ten Hag needs to drop Bruno/Mount alongside Casemiro to form a 3-2-5 or we need to sign Pavard and Amrabat as rumored to play Pavard RB, allowing us to have Martinez, Varane and Pavard as a three in possession with Amrabat and Casemiro ahead.
Out of possession our high press was mostly functional but once bypassed our defense dropped too quickly leaving the already outnumbered Casemiro in no man's land. We have to either push the fullbacks and defensive line up to back the press or go back to a mid block, this is chaos and will be exploited by better teams.
Our game management was also poor, once 1-0 we should have retained much more of the ball instead of looking to counter every attack and killing our momentum. Our box defence also dropped too deep allowing Wolves settled possession on the edge of the box which is crazy, very lucky not to have conceded.
All around I am very worried and unlike last year this is purely a tactical issue, not a personnel issue. We have the players to thrive. Ten Hag needs to seriously work on our offensive and defensive structures for us to make top 4, nevermind think about a title.
I think United should consider a box midfield 4 the way varcelona do it. Barcelona start Gavi or Pedri wide left on paper but in the game, Balde provides the width & Pedri/Gavi tucks in. Ten Hag should consider starting Sancho on that left side instead of Garnacho so when Shaw overlaps & provides width, Sancho tucks in the central areas where he usually is more comfortable anyway. That also allows AWB to stay back in a defensive 3 where he won’t have much ball playing responsibilities & can focus on transitions defense & 1v1s like Walker at City. This setup should be good until they find a striker & Rashford can go back on the left to provided the width & 1v1s strength. Shaw is a great crosser as well. Inverting him wastes his strength. Lisandro at the LCB position where he can dictate play from deep but also carry the ball to create even more overload & midfield superiority. It also keeps that Diamond play out the shape back they tried against wolves with onana. Can still play out from the back or go long and have bodies around for the second ball. Box midfield of Bruno & Casemiro as the pivots & Mount & Sancho as free 8s. And Antony stays wide right.
United have the uncanny ability of making every team look world class
OK LESSONS:
we must understand that we need to use rashford as a LW. he wants to dribble towards the target like a modern LW. and his link with shaw. in other hand garnacho played like a little teenager today. no vision, panics and didn't execute his runs. so that means we can't use rashford and garnacho at the same time except if rashford plays on the right which is not his og position again...
for mount. godness me he was terrible. first half he did well against holding wolves players and cutting through passes but he went into ghost mode on second half. i didn't even see him on the pitch. casse had fitness problems and he can't do it with his own if mount performs like this... can't wait for kobbie mainoo's return actually. if he still good as before. mason will be on the bench this season and idc... we have seen this movie before. and the name of that movie is ah boy doony... he need to learn how to play with bruno or ended up as a new van de beek... and i love donny. just wrong place at the wrong time thingy...
anyway.... we must step our bars up... train well and please ETH put rashford on the LEFT. i am okay with a 'not ready' martial all day. come on YANITED!!!
Bruno can't play without a false 9...
Rashford and Ronaldos won't work there
mount wasn’t even bad what😭
Mount played his first game in 6 months. He needs some time… Rashford and Garnacho were horrible today.
Apt explanation
@@sp3949first game in 6 months? are we just going to ignore pre season games
It’s easy to point the finger at Mount, he’s the new blood but our creative front four were off it all game. Garnacho was outmuscled and reduced to shooting through numbers, Rashford played too deep to threaten the goal and I lost count of how many times Antony made the wrong choice with a pass. Bruno roamed ineffectually. The ball was slow getting to the forwards but then they wasted every scrap they got.
Rashford selfish again you know exactly don’t pass mount
These are the games you yearn for a number 10. Especially when there's no striker on the pitch to take charge.
I actually thought Mount did well with what he was given, I put the bad performance down to Casemiro, Bruno, and Garnacho tho most of the 11 was either kinda lazy or was just not on the same wavelength as others
@@Coach-rq6jx Bruno set up the goal. Any player that gets 10 plus assists gives the ball away, it's in the nature of trying killer passes.
I do get that the teams was as a whole poor and the fitness lvls were appalling but if u look at mount he was supposed to be the no.8 like eriksen who gets the ball off our backline,carries it frwrd to bruno or himself,help out case def and not leaving spaces by pushing too far up in bruno's posns and not isolating case. But what he did was just drift off to brunos posns,cause huge holes in midfield and leaving utd vulnerable to counters and 1v2s or 1v3s for case to handle once wolves got past him and bruno. I think mount needs to learn the eriksen role and until that he needs to be benched for eriksen cause we can't play 2 10s with case being the one man mdfld in any case. So all in all mount was the strt of chaos,confusion and vulnerability to utds ideas and attaks.
As a united fan would never be confident of us winning the league unless we figure out how win games against low block defense we look clue less against these teams unless we have someone like bruno rashford or even garnacho last year with individual masterclass
The only positive is pellistri got a game
Big facts
@FootballMadeSimple great video, summary and telestration of the game. Thanks
Glad you enjoyed it!
we don't have the required fullbacks to invert into midfield to support casemiro and allow mount and bruno to play high. Also that box system by pep requires wingers to hold width so wouldn't suit rashford. We have to find a system which suits the players we have. I believe a 352 in possession would be ideal, RB making a back 3. Shaw pushing providing width allowing rashford inside and casemiro with a more supportive midfield partner.bruno and mount can rotate for #10.
Wouldn't be surprised to see Bissouma next match carry the ball through our two advanced 8's press with Casemiro looking isolated with Maddison running off him
There were too many back passes making United appear more passive unlike Wolves
Wolves had to be on steroids, they played like their lives depended on it, wow, their midfield were wonderful
Ten Hag’s players must have still had jet lag! 😂
Nah, it's bad tactics from eth another season. It's nonsense for the wingers to alway keeps the wide and be a threat to goal. The more they are allowed to mixed it up is the stronger the midfield will be and more goals from crossing fro. The fullbacks 0:25
I was pretty alarmed in pre season with how cavalier our 3-1-6 buildup system is. Its like long ball football and once it breaks down the opposition drived trucks through our midfield. I just thought that was pre season teething but Ten Haag has actually not changed that at all.
Thusfar the chemistry of Mount and Bruno as flying 8's and Casemerio holding is not working. We need a tempo controller like Erikksen and then a 10 like Bruno or Mount.
Its only one game but it was shocking how we conceded counter attacks with a coach who values rest defence so highly. We alsl couldnt string any passes together.
I have faith in Ten Haag but that was like watching Ole in his final days.
He needs to solidify the team
I think the Wolves counter was mainly due to Casemiro being caught in no man’s land for most of the game, and he didn’t get help from the supposedly inverted fullback who should’ve been more central. Tho it doesn’t help that even tho United did press they tend to crumble against a good ball carrier
I’ll never understand why we didn’t buy a “younger Eriksen” in the summer. I don’t think we need Mason and Bruno on the pitch together…
Excellent analysis 👍👍
Excellent video!!!
Ten Hag’s gameplan was solid, players were just crap today. The fact that Onana and Wan-Bissaka were our best players says it all
Mount, Antony and Garnacho simply disappointed.
Bruno was Awful
@@Duffman_Reigns antony is alright for me.
Apart from the fact Onana nearly took someone’s head off, I agree he had a very solid debut.
@@Duffman_ReignsGarnacho was playing very good actually but Mickey Mouse mount was crowding up his spot and Garna know to push down that wing but Mickey Mouse just in his spot! Viva Garnacho definitely was doing his work!
Rasford on the left, Sancho up top, and pellistri out right is our best front 3 in my mind.
Garnacho shouldn't start. I wanna see Pellistri play more.
@@sunglee3935 facts man should strictly be an impact sub. Pellistri is way more composed.
Pellestri did not have much of an impact in the game today
@@sunglee3935Garnacho should not be anywhere near the first team. Terrible player!
@@quicksilver5413 he wasn’t given enough time
Your last line sums up all, it's just beginning, seems we need amrabat deal asap. Rash is born as a winger.
Wolves didn't commit to the high press and the lack of movement from the midfield players when trying to pass out from the back, additionally both mount and bruno were playing way too high to help with playing out from the back. Our attackers also didn't seem interested in helping with build up play, Eriksen and Sancho coming on helped change this but it still could have been better.
But ten hag tells mount and bruno to play that high. How is it possible that wolves consistently broke our 'press' (if you can even call it that) so easily yet we could barely make it past the first line of defence all game
Mount was brought in to do Eriksens job to sit along with casemiro and dictate the game. Just as eriksen was in for mount we played much better. If Utd bring amrabat soon if will be better for midfield. Mount will get better as the season continues but Amrabat is must🔰
Mount was actually bought to be an upgrade of Fred than a replacement of Eriksen
Very well coverd you have a new subscriber 👍👏
Onana poses a sharp learning curve for UTD in possession playing out; such an able keeper presents options they are not used to but opponents have been seeing from better teams in recent years, esp the the MAIN adversaries, City and Lpool, so clever opponents are already schooled. Disciplined Wolves taught a lesson, that should not be forgotten.
There is much that can be said, but keeping it short: REALLY knowing and loving your tika and your taka, rather than depending on killer passes from the keeper and also accepting, if not loving, high press to regain possession fast by the forwards AND pitch-length recovery runs by full backs and DMs several times every game bc there will be overturns high up if playing in possession. In other words, the example is right across the city - been there for a while
For me a big issue wasn't even tactical it was the fact that the team couldn't keep the ball but kept giving it away. The best teams can keep possession for prolonged periods if you can't you won't challenge for the league.
Watched this game live only just got home , wish I never went to the match . United deserved to lose that match it was so underwhelming no control in midfield , couldn’t keep the ball for more than 2 seconds . I have huge doubts in Casemiro he looked like he was wearing weights around his feet looked so slow and missed so many tackles and was so slow. After watching wolves who seemed to have 5 press resistant and ball carrying midfielders they united should sign mattheus nunes and amrabat. United need at least 2 more midfielders . I’m so confused at mount didn’t do anything last night just other than pressing . Worrying times are ahead of they don’t sign anyone else in midfield.
No more new signings. The ones on the pitch are rubbish. Antony, mount, casemiro are all eth signings. Don't tell me eth didn't get fdj, that wolves side lost key players and their manager... yet United was worse than a 2nd division team. Eth needs to get tough and start playing Pellistri, Antony is a one trick pony and retrograding, I can't believe eth wanted him, and his price makes it more irksome
@@norman5340no more new signings? Mate the weakness was the midfield, how is playing pellestri going to change the midfield dynamic?
@@norman5340Ten Hag and his scouting team thus far have not been good at recruiting top tier players if we are being honest. He needs to do better if he wants to challenge City.
Splendid video. 😮
I thought we got our pressing wrong today, it’s early and disjointed with some players not fully fit, so OK. New tactics deserve patience. That said the fact that ETH didn’t seem to correct it as the game went on kind of concerned me. But better to keep trying against wolves than a top 6 side anyway.
whether the tactics would even work is one thing but we clearly dont have the players to execute it
Fernandes as an 8 is definitely an experiment, mason as an 8 less so, but also will need work. But the idea of having a sensational presser and probably the best aggressive / direct creator in Europe playing together in a high press system is promising. The issue is how to make it work.@@gerardike415
I wish you had done a longer video showing what Wolve did right before United switch to route 1 football before they scored I've analysed it but I often do comparison with yours to see what I didn't cover in my analysis....
Wolves packed the centre and left AWB completely free because they know he's poor in possession. If the opposition is going to leave you in huge amounts of space you have to use it and all AWB did was slow down our play and pass backwards.
TLDR: United tried to deploy Ten Hag Ajax ball and it did not really work
Ten hag tried to implement guardiola style not ajax ball ahahah like others managers in the pl are doing but he is just not that good
I'll give1 year max to united discharge him
@@BrunoSilva-fv3omu couldn't be more wrong
@@BrunoSilva-fv3om 😂😂😂omg this guy has zero ball knowledge
@@BrunoSilva-fv3omlast season people like you talking shit about ETH when manutd lose 2 game in row but he proved wrong.
@@BrunoSilva-fv3omexactly they tried making them press the keeper but they didn’t press so they jus got impatient and instantly lost possession😭
Good show, thanks. Tactics don't matter when you don't pass the ball to your own team mate.
They are not comfortable with this playstyle yet, and Rashy not being good in tight spaces surely didn't help. But even more worrying is that the tactic was so easily countered. Maybe it would work better when Hojlund can play but he's new to the PL, so can't expect him to be a game changer. I think the tactics need some adjustments. Maybe with Mount as a box-to-box mid, so he can help Casemiro.
Hey FMS i just wanted to ask if u can make a video about barca vs getafe today. It was a very controversial and interesting tactical match. Love ur vid btw❤
So is a new midfielder needed that can help defensively like amrabat? Would that mean mount gets benched
realistically there’s no chance mount gets benched, ten hag got him for 60M he wouldn’t bench him
Maybe he plays wide then ganarcho gets benched
amrabat if signed will probably be a backup to casemiro when injured/suspended or if ten hag wants to go a bit defensive with two dms against teams like man city/arsenal. We got to remember this is just the first game of the season we got to give them a few games before they get used to the patterns of play.
why would u play two dms lmao, mount should just play alongside casemiro as a pivot
@@alexsayshi6782Mount simply isn't good enough. I predicted this problem 2 months ago.
Nice analysis but I think everyone who's played football could tell what was wrong just by watching the game. It's a disaster waiting to happen if you look at the creative process there really wasnt enough and when united were gifted the ball they couldnt make anything out of it it's the same for wolves it just seemed like neither side wanted to commit and lose the ball at the 0 -0 stage yet both gifted balls repeatedly in there own half and somehow both teams managed to screw up the build up almost like they didn't know what to do with the ball
For as long as ETH plays with both Bruno and Mount in the midfield United will continue to get overrun. ETH wants a high press, but he isn't going to get it and Casemiro will be totally exposed without much support from the players ahead of him on the park. If Wolves can make United look pathetic, imagine what good clubs will do. We'll regret letting Fred go for practically nothing because he added a bit of bite to the midfield when playing with Casemiro in his back. ETH needs a rethink and will hopefully soon realise that he made a mistake paying too much for Mount who we didn't need in the first place. Unfortunately it'll most likely be the same as with Antony and he'll stick with Mount because he insisted on buying him.
I agree completely!! Mount is dog shit!! He really is! The fact ten hag wanted him above better midfielders worries me!!
Did you even watch the analysis at all??? It has nothing to do with Mount, he did his job perfectly with Bruno, jf Shaw hadn't picked up a card earlier in the game, casemiro would have had more cover, I think we should blame our wingers and tentage for using rashford in this game, sancho would have been better
@@spaceTrade01 This my analysis. I have eyes and brain. Mount and Bruno didn't work and won't work. We'll be back to the Ole days when the midfield kept on getting overrun and the defence was constantly exposed. I thought pursuing Mount wasn't a good thing, but I didn't fully realise how bad it could turn out to be. There is no balance in the side if both he and Bruno start games.
Do Ange postecoglou vs Brentfrod pleaase
That initial press should be done in a 4-4-2. It would keep everyone man-to-man in the initial opponent buildup.
Onana was worth every penny
That pen was quite worth
No he isnt... trust me this guy will be making sill mistakes and has a short temper.
@@_trust9994 lol no reason to trust you when its clear how good he is and what he did last season.
Just wait for a slight arguement with Ten Hag and he wud show his angriness during the game..stay tuned
@@zulkifliabbas2414you're talking of Raya here tbh. :3
Hopefully we drop this box midfield we got no width with it. Drop Casemiro between the CBs push the FBs wide on the halfway line, McTominay and Bruno holding the centre then the front 3 pinning their backline
The extra Utd bodies up top contributed to the congestion and actually assisted Wolves.
Cunha waa class in that game
I still trust the ETH philosophy and Manchester United are getting better!
Garnacho should have been chucked off at half time. And the team looked so static and there was literally no movements to get the ball from the defenders. And casemiro has lost a considerable amount of pace, his pocket was picked off quite easily by wolves. If there was cover for him he would have been taken off first. Sancho looked sharp when he came on. This is a lucky win if ever there was one.
There is cover for him, your Agentinian defender wearing no 6 would excel in Casimero's position
I think United should consider a box midfield 4 the way varcelona do it. Barcelona start Gavi or Pedri wide left on paper but in the game, Balde provides the width & Pedri/Gavi tucks in. Ten Hag should consider starting Sancho on that left side instead of Garnacho so when Shaw overlaps & provides width, Sancho tucks in the central areas where he usually is more comfortable anyway. That also allows AWB to stay back in a defensive 3 where he won’t have much ball playing responsibilities & can focus on transitions defense & 1v1s like Walker at City. This setup should be good until they find a striker & Rashford can go back on the left to provided the width & 1v1s strength. Shaw is a great crosser as well. Inverting him wastes his strength. Lisandro at the LCB position where he can dictate play from deep but also carry the ball to create even more overload & midfield superiority. It also keeps that Diamond play out the shape back they tried against wolves with onana. Can still play out from the back or go long and have bodies around for the second ball. Box midfield of Bruno & Casemiro as the pivots & Mount & Sancho as free 8s. And Antony stays wide right.
The facts are we are not improving under EtH. The team just is not improving and our midfield was shocking last night. If we have another bad season EtH will be gone.
what do you mean "another" bad season. He finished 3rd and won us a trophy last season.
Spurs game will be interesting.
If we play with Bruno and Mount in the midfield again, we'll be overrun in the midfield, but unlike Wolves, Spurs will make us pay even without Kane.
Mount and Fernandes need more time to gel.
I’m praying mount picks up a season long injury! That’s our only chance of doing welll. He’s dog shit
Hey can you cover the Newcastle matches ?
Newcastle are playing better football than MU
Newcastle are the best midfield itw for me. City fan here and still, how fking good are they. Tonali, Bruno G and Joelinton are brilliant I love them
@@jasontran8056 haha yes we sure seem to have hit the ground running
@@nananou1687 Yes, exciting times at the tyne
Newcastle may have the best midfield but their defense is average
I don't know whats happening with the tactics, but either the team doesn't know what their doing or it's Ten Hag. Personally they need to: 1. reduce their width to close down play in the middle 2. Simplify their build up play 3. Buy more experienced players.(Mount, Onana, Rasmus will not bring success.) Should've bought a proper CF like J David, get Goretzka, and Wojciech Szczesny. J. David suits their play more than Rasmus, especially if you are going to have Bruno and Mason in there at the same time. Goretzka would be an excellent parter for Casemiro to tidy up midfield, and Wojciech is so solid. Onana is like the goalkeeper version of Maguire. His blooper reel is ridiculous(hes already got scored on from halfway and shouldve cost them the 3 points against wolves. There is more to come
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it’s down to having a striker who can hold the ball up as the passing lanes to advanced 8 were cut by wolves the wingers found themselves 1 v 1 situations which united did not make the most of it mostly due to lack of movement or run in behind
United, City and Palace were the only teams to keep clean sheets this weekend.
Please do a Spurs v Brentford....would love to see the new era of spurs under Ange
Why are so many people not giving wolves their due credit? Honestly speaking they were the most prepared team for their first game bar,I even put them above Newcastle in terms of them being prepared to face their opponent. Aston Villa after Mings went off lost all their structure so Newcastle just played it simple.
But Wolves we’re brilliant, they matched everything United wanted to do and inturn set the tempo of the game. That is one of the hardest things to do in football these days. For me rather than United being so poor I will give Wolves their flowers for their very structured and disciplined approach.
As a United fan...
We are still yet to see a class performance from Mason!!
I like the new system. If you want to compete against big teams like manCity, Real Madrid, then we have to play with that mindset. Unlocking Mount would be pivotal to ManUtd's season success. Moreover, we need Shaw to step up in his role as central midfield. up to level of ManCity's Cancelo played in previous seasons.
New system is crap we lack solidity.
@@shabasm7 Solidity comes with 2 holding midfielders, which was lacking because Shaw had to pay attention to left flank when Garnacho played horrible last night. It takes time to work out. But if Mount gone bad, then new plan will fail.
Ten Hag looked obviously without ideas by present this starting 11 for the first game of the league. The 11 didn't look a bit like the starters for the rest of the season and the same mistakes were made. Rashford can't be the reference up there, Garnacho needs minutes off the bench and Antony needs to find his form.
As such, the full backs are way to linear for what Ten Hag wants them to do in his system, while the midfield is too slow and aged for anything related to agility.
Onana needs time, he's a good keeper, although I think he's a bit small for the Prem.
Then we have the biggest fault that wasn't addressed in this transfer window: the striker. We desperately needed a striker that can bag United 20 goals per season at least and be a strong powerhouse in the middle. Instead, went with an unproven 20 year old expensive guy because he has a similar name to the top scorer.
United is badly ran and it's showing. I don't see them making it far in the Champions League and being a contender for the Premier League this season again
The issue was the 2 strikers of wolves pressing excellently. A double pivot and a back four could have helped the buildup. I think ten Hag was trying something and it didn’t workout as he wanted. I am confident ten Hag has learned from this game.
The great weakness of Manchester United's midfield was openly exposed by the numerous threatening runs by Matheus Nunes straight down the middle virtually unstoppable. For obvious reasons Manu seriously need to address this problem.
The Heatmap of players in the game explains everything Wolves had 5 in midfield vs our 3, This is where Rashy needs to drop in to help the midfield to help equal the numbers and fullbacks might need to alternate and come inside more often.
We all know that Rashford doesn't track back
I think shaws early card even destroyed the midfield totally cos he was even joining casemiro at first. I also would have loved sancho as a false 9 better than rashford upfront, Antony and Garnacho were not it today at all
@@spaceTrade01 yeah even false 9 sancho would have helped but issue was there they had such good presence centrally. We could have done more wide possibly
so basically: uniteds downfall was not knowing how to prepare for us. they guessed and got it wrong, so were hurt by that.
I'll never understand buying a injured player
Dawson played Right centre back
Kilman Left centre back.
Utd do need a controller in that DM or CM position. They will suffer against mid blocks this season.
I’m not sure about east teams but rashford always shows up for big games. That’s why as an arsenal fan I strictly say mark him or we will regret it again
Mount was hype signing cuz I can’t find its relevance. Amrabat would be a better CDM supporting casemiro and pavard just like yesterday when licha was sub off, although lindelof was quite impressive
Just wondering if there is a channel "refereeing made simple" if so they could do refreshers.
Utd need a much higher tempo for the start of games. Even start of with a simple 4-2-3-1 and stick with it until going 1-0 up then switch it up and invite the press. Teams will never press high at Old Trafford at the beginning of games.
I think if he had played sancho as a false 9 and with rashford and a better winger on the flanks, the formation would have worked better
Tenhag needs to fix this kind of pressing issues our press has been almost bypassed the same way occasionally the whole of last season the fullbacks rarely back up the press
I want to see the wolves side of this.
Didn't watch the game last night due to time zone difference, but the feedback from our fans were not good. It's easy to see United needs to play more mature, otherwise it's going to be another 0-6 against city or liverpool.
Ten Hags mistake was not assigning a supporting mid for both sides During offence Shaw should have been the second option and Mount was also supposed to support Casemiro....He can't hold the middle of the park in premiere league.....that's not possible
Room for improvement is a bit of an understatement. Many people had Wolves as relegation candidates before the game started and they absolutely battered United. They were only saved by diabolical refereeing decisions
I am more worrried about the fact that ETH didnt correct all these mistakes in game. He just stood there and looked angry like all of us.
23 shots against us should have been a reason enough for ETH to tell one of Mount or Shaw or AWB to stay back. Go 2-3-5 in their box or 3-2-5. Seems an easy problem to fix in game.
We were very lucky that Wolves are toothless infront of goal. Against better opposition like with Liverpool or ManCity or Arsenal, we will get smashed.
This had nothing to do with Wolves being more fit then us. We played more games in preseason than Wolves did. We were at home. Just poor.
Lastly, i think ETH got the game plan wrong in some ways. We started with a counter attacking team in Garnacho, Rashford, Bruno etc. We needed to be more calm in posession in the first half. Make them run around. Tire them. Then hit them on the break in the second half. Instead we brought on Eriksen & Sancho in the 2nd half (which is what brought us the goal btw). We should have started them.
Away at Spurs, I would like us to start with the counter attacking team straight away. Guve Spurs the ball. See what they can do with it. They seemed to be very vulnerable in transition in the chanels against Brentford.
Why aren't you analyzing the epl matches of late eve if is at least one per weekend like now game between Brighton and Newcastle yesterday, Manchester united and arsenal today 2 ND September or even last week's Newcastle -liverpool?
We were awful.
1) Mount and Bruno cancelled each other out
2) Rashford is not a CF
3) Our wingers needs more consistency (Rashford & Antony, Garnacho is still young so it is fine)
4) We need more movement and keep the ball better even though we are playing transition football
5) We can't rely just on the defense if we want to get top 4 this season.
Unfortunately Ten Hag will probably stick to the Mount-Bruno midfield because he insisted on buying Mount. Doesn’t wanna make it look like he made a stupid mistake buying him
Still don't understand why ten hag played shaw in a double pivot. He's a threat in FB doing overlapping and underlapping.
To be fair for ten hag, united would have easily won this game if the wingers were effective. I think ten hag expects antony and Garnacho to pierce past the defenders. However, Garnacho is still young and sometimes is not effective in dribbling and making the correct decision. He had so many chances to make that good pass in this game but he didnt show intelligence. while Antony/pelestri are both always a hit and miss. And every defender knows that Antony just likes to cut and shoot. The wingers are gonna be a problem for ten hag this season. We either need a better ball playing midfielder or just a drastic improvement in the wingers.
That’s why rashford could be United’s best player this season tbh
Mount and Bruno need to be more aware of what's going on in the midfield.
No wonder Casemiro was completely empty at the end, having to do everything himself.
And if Bruno and Mount decide play as advanced again, then they better make damn sure they're effective, which neither of them were throughout the entire match, imo.
Very little balance, sloppy passes and too many people wanting to score or run forward. Having Sancho, who's a natural team and link-up player, created so much more for the forwards.
So what about overlapping fullback instead of the wingers always keeping the with? The more the wingers roaming is the stronger the middle will be and the more goals will be score especially through the middle instead of always trying to curl the ball. Eth tactics is dumb
Exactly
Sancho should start games as false 9.
i didnt know we were tactical in this match more like lost disoriented
I think one thing he failed to mention is, Rashford’s lackadaisical press. The whole system hinged on wolves hurrying up their play and misplacing a pass which will lead a transitional. But by Rashford being slow, it allowed wolves enough time on the ball to pass through.
i would like us to play more defensive formation - accept who we are and where we are today in terms of capacity. we will not be able to withstand newcastle, liverpool , arsenal and city which are quick teams
Exactly! We need to stop with the obsession of pressing. Just accept we can't do it and drop into a low block when we loose the ball.
bro,wolf vs city analysis please.
martial could have started on striker role and rashford on LW role.
So, were the tactics good but just performed badly in this game or are the tactics not good enough?
The tactics were good, but naive. You can't play when you don't have a technically astute DM. Casemiro isn't. So this system will not work
Need to fix Ten Hag out!!He is not the Mr Fix ManU!!!First Anthony now Mount!OMG!!!
Ten Hag gets a 3/10 and that’s being generous. Same problem under OLE. yet here we are again
Already
The guy doesn't play, i thought the same ahah
Wolves limited united the entire game. United and liverpool need to wach out on how they are playing this season. Wolves yesterday lacked goals,others they were a far better side.
#tenhag, you need a world class striker, said it many seasons ago. wingers are not natural scorers.
Bruno is not a David Silva or Bernardo Silva who can unlock defences. He's good with countrr attacks only. High time United find a player who can pass against tight defences
If you want to shut down United, just close off space in center and don't commit to high press, if we have possession we can barely create anything despite having two attacking midfielders. Anothy is totally worthless unless he can cut inside . The formation has to change, Amrobat is not enough, we need to replace Mount with a deep playmaker, this type of suicide formation just is not going to work in the Prem
I don’t get why we play a 6 and two 10s instead of a 6 and two 8s our players are just so stagnant not looking to create/find space to receive the ball forcing us to pass along the back and go for the useless long ball there is also still no fight to win second balls or ability to put good crosses in the box to the people saying we just need to make signings it’s not that it’s a problem Utd have had for years it’s something Erik and the coaches have to fix in training
I think the two 10s are supposed to be 8s but it just didn’t work in this particular game cause both Bruno and Mount have the capacity to play as 8s. Also supposedly with two free 8s the fullback is supposed to invert and help the 6 which just didn’t happen at all