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The French Election's coming round fast, and while Macron looks likely to hold onto his position, it's possible that another candidate could snatch it at the last moment. It could be Le Pen, it could be Zemmour, but one thing's for sure... it'll be a right winger. So in this video, we explain why France has no real left-wing candidates and what's lead to the collapse of the left in the country.
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CORRECTION:
The Northern League are, of course, Italian, not French as claimed at 2:00
Melenchon left the Socialists in 2008, not 2018 as claimed at 8:35.
Apologies for that; we thought it was worth mentioning that these were both mistakes in production, not by our writers/researchers, so don’t worry, our French writers know what they’re talking about. Anyway, apologies again, and we’ll try our best to make sure this sort of thing doesn’t happen again.
PS: some people have suggested we probably should’ve focused more on Hollande’s policy failures than his personal life. In retrospect, you guys were probably correct, but hopefully the wider point - that Hollande’s presidency has had long lasting consequences for the socialists and the French left more generally - still came through.
And as a final final thing, thanks for calling us out on it - constructive feedback always welcomed, and as an audience you guys are great at it (and remarkably well-informed)!
Also at 2:39 you wrote Migrats instead of Migrants
I think that it would be best to allow for your writers to watch the video, and check that all the information is correct, before uploading.
Also stop with the left-right absurd reductionism or at least difference the social issues and economic issues in each party.
As I said multiple times here: Le Pen is the most economically anti-capitalist or anti-liberalism party in French (that's why, apart from the massive inmigration that cause too many problems to working class citizens, workers vote for her) and all media put her like "far-right" because she is conservative (although she destroyed the communist party because she adopts the same economically ideology).
Other right-wing parties are not like here, are pro-capitalist. And in he left-wing happens the same. The Socialist Party in New Zeland or in Portugal is totally pro-capitalism too, p.e.
Let's not forget that Macron's wife is a child rapist who raped him when he was 15, she was 40-something, and she was his teacher.
May I respectfully encourage the readers/presenters of the TLDR videos to double-check on the pronunciation of names? That would re-enforce the reliability of the excellent research made by the team. The problem is not caused by any English accent. It is simply caused by mispronunciation of some syllables, which could easily be avoided with very little guidance, since the correct sounds do exist in some English words. It would not be costly. It might even be free, as I expect there will be sympathetic viewers of your channels who would gladly help. It would not take five minutes to help you, for instance, to correctly pronounce the name of Mélanchon.
Hollande's private life had little to no influence on his approval rating. French don't care about politicians personal life. One point that you didn't talk about however about Hollande is how the party basically split and part of it rebelled against him, especially around questions like integration, immigration, securities and especially the "way" to exerce power, as he, more than once, forced the hand of the parliament. This split the left even more than it already was. Then Macron gave the coup de grâce, by taking part of the more centrist or moderate left with him. So what was left of the left was only the galaxy of small more radical parties that you mention in the next part of the video.
What destroyed Hollande réputation is his politics, neoliberalism.
Le Pen is the most economically anti-capitalist or anti-liberalism party in French (that's why, apart from the massive inmigration that cause a lot of problems, workers vote for her) and all media put her like "far-right" because she is conservative (although she destroyed the communist party because she adopts the same economically ideology) LMAO
@@poltergeist7621 she is protectionnist, not communist.
@@pierren___ Aslo, she is pretty much ultra-liberal in economics, but not at all in social questions
@@Victor-el3ul example ?
All the comments from French viewers really make the topic more interesting and detailed. Merci guys I appreciate it.
Well, speaking as the whole french viewership, we're quite happy to be featured here, so we might as well bump CZcams engagement
Kuergestan fan
Few mistakes I’ve noticed in the video:
- Northern League is Italian
- Melenchon left the socialist party in 2008, this is quite important because he left the socialist party when they began to accept cuts in the public sector or less “socialist” measures. You could find videos of him explaining his decision to the public. For example, he often mentions the fact that the socialists still accept a form of endless growth to redistribute wealth that he believes is old fashioned and reckless when you consider that the world’s resources are not endless.
Besides, I am not sure that Hollande’s private affairs made such a big difference in the polls. I do believe it is mostly due to his neoliberal approach to the economy: he accepted cuts in the public sector. He was also elected on a famous slogan to put an end to the finance sector bubble that was blighting the economy from within, which he didn’t do at all. Now, you often hear left-wing voters say that the Socialists are not a left-wing party anymore, even though rich-wing voters would still consider it as a left-wing party.
Lastly, about the coalition of the left parties, I think you could have mentioned attempts of the public to make a “PRIMAIRE POPULAIRE” in order to have one left candidate running for the elections. Also, I believe that one or two of the candidates are going to withdraw before the beginning of the elections, it always happens between January and February.
I might be mistaken but if you think so feel free to tell me what you think, I am up for discussions. By the way, I’d be happy to help the TLDR team on French news.
Agreed on all of that.
Merci, yen avait besoin
*right-wing voters
*I might be (not I am might)
Sorry for typos
@@napoleonche9716 Totally Agree😉
As an outsider I think it has a lot to do with appeasement politics that left did for illegal Immigrant's especially after the charlie hebdo incident
Socialist Party is not historically the largest left wing party, that’s only been the case since Mitterand. Historically the PCF was the largest until the 80s.
I mean, given The short duration of the fourth republic and the rights stranglehold on politics during the 60s and 70s, the PCF have just kinda been inconsequential in modern French political history. Pre 80s, in the second round, it was still either the socialist or some other type of non communist left that always reached the second round.
so something like 37 year out of the 62 of the V republic.
So what, 40 years are definitely enough history to make their claim.
Who asked?
Yes but actually no, the PCF was never in power, the socialist party on the over end was in power several time in the 3, 4 and 5 republic
There is a general misconception that fulls this video of technical mistakes. France has been since the founding of the 5th Republic a more or less conservative country. Out of all of his Presidents since 1958 only two: Mitterrand and Hollande were from the Socialist Party the rest coming from the Right and the Left has traditionally not held the majority in the National Assembly (with exceptions in 1981 to 1986, 1988 to 1993, 1997 to 2002 and 2012 to 2017) neither has been the biggest party. France adopted a lot of left-wing ideas in the core of its identity after WW2 but that ironically killed the left since once their objectives where achieved a lot of people in France turned to the right
Before Mitterrand's presidency, France had an excellent economic growth, and her GDP was significantly higher than that of Great Britain. In long run, Mitterrand's policies devastated the economic dynamism of France; some of the French enterpreneurs left the country for the Anglosphere, while Britain was witnessing a growth under Thatcher. I will not even bother to speak of Hollande. No wonder why the French are done with leftism.
Thats, you have a good point, but political spectrum is not that simples, a center right in France is propably seem as a center left in right leening countrys like Poland or even GB
Also, the 5th republic was created by De Gaulle for himself and similar people, so it structurally advantages the right, with the idea of the "homme providentiel".
Le Pen is the most economically anti-capitalist or anti-liberalism party in French (that's why, apart from the massive inmigration that cause a lot of problems, workers vote for her) and all media put her like "far-right" because she is conservative (although she destroyed the communist party because she adopts the same economically ideology) LMAO
@@edsiles4297 the phrase "homme providentiel" reeks of fascism.
For the French, I think it’s because of the terror attacks, yes, Hollande’s political (not personal) unpopularity, and the split amongst themselves.
Maybe they need a temporary First Consul to sort things out...
@@mangonel The Bonapartiste parti
I think that was an anglo-saxon bias, personal life is very important in American and British politics, not so much in French
@@ElOchentero yes, we couldnt care less, it's his own personnal business
It's almost like when a country get's filled with immigrants that don't assimilate the natives get angry, What a crazy concept...
If anything, Hollande's private affairs made him more popular than unpopular so this has nothing to do with his failure
Yeah, we're French, a President *must* have a crazy romantic life, it's in our constitution.
I like this channel but every time there's a video about France there are just waaaayyyy too many mistakes it's extremely frustrating to watch
not just France but pretty much about anything 😂
That may be because you're french and you notice them more. We can't really expect that many videos and also zero mistakes given the pace at which they come out. I still prefer that to watching the tele and not being able to pick what I'm curious about.
Ways too many mistakes and UK centric in all the videos I have watched. But he doesn't seem to care. Any reaction on CZcams is good. Kerching.
"France had 2 socialist president, Mitterrand and Hollande"
Me as a French : Wut ?! Hollande was a socialist ?
"Self-proclaimed."
@@meneither3834 he self identifies as a lump of jello
Politics is full of misnomers, you'll get used to it eventually.
Yes he was, that's why its presidency is crap, but the left as alway deny it was them, you voted for hollande, you voted for macron, take your responsability.
Bah il était membre du Parti socialiste.
The problem is when we define things as "Left" or "Right", we ignore the nuances of politics. Much of the rise of the populist Right in Europe has come with very little changes in welfare or public service provisions. The populist Right in France is no exception. Perhaps one of the reasons why the Left in France is so unpopular is their policies are already adopted by the Right, so the main issues are dominated by Right-wing populists.
The reason that "the rise of the populist right" hasn't come with much change in welfare or public service provisions is because in most countries these parties cap out at around 20% of the vote and then nobody wants coalitions with them; or, when they do get into government, they are monumentally incompetent and can't actually pass much of their agenda through parliament.
I agree. we put too much weight on the words 'left' and 'right.' politics are way too complicated to boil down to a single spectrum.
Is this another "Left wing policies are actually very popular" comment?
Can't you just accept that some people don't like paying taxes for freeloaders in their country? And by some I mean far more than your bubble?
@@Astropeleki Unless you're super rich, everyone wants strong social safety nets that don't allow people to go homeless or drown in medical debt or student debt.
Maybe left should drop the cosmopolitan, pro immigration stance then.
And that's when Jean Luc Mélenchon enters the game
Truuuuue
Einheitsfront
And he fell 😂
@@luckyFrenchy Sadly mdrrrrr
There's a massive difference in mindset between the members of Left-leaning parties and their traditional voters. Been growing for a long time, you could see it at Labour Party conferences, where the members waved the Palestinian flag around with abandon, whilst most Labour voters couldn't point to it on a map, and didn't care to either, or a heavy focus on trans issues. They have very niche priorities, and they've lost the ability to communicate with actual people, not their own people who think the same and act the same. The Right seem to have a better grasp of what actually matters to the public, even if they don't go along with it.
So what is it that actually matters to the public, which the right have tapped into?
I mostly agree with that analysis:
The right's identity politics are mostly inclusive to the electorate - nationality, culture and established western political values - whereas the left's identity is often primarily concerned with minorities - which still are a smaller part of the electorate - and based on a global world view which is further away from people's daily lives and not as established as the west's.
@@peteradaniel taxes, migration, the eus inconsistent policies
Le Pen is the most economically anti-capitalist or anti-liberalism party in French (that's why, apart from the massive inmigration that cause a lot of problems, workers vote for her) and all media put her like "far-right" because she is conservative (although she destroyed the communist party because she adopts the same economically ideology) LMAO
@@peteradaniel People in the UK will care more about what's going on in Preston than Palestine and always will. The Right have cottoned on to the public not being internationalist and concerned almost exclusively with matters at home. So if you discuss anti-social behaviour, immigration, failing schools, you'll resonate with the public far more than if you discuss the two-state solution, LGBT rights in Poland, and educating girls in Afghanistan. The latter three are not unworthy things to discuss, but if you put them as a priority the general public simply will not care, especially if you seemingly have no opinion on the subjects that the public DO care about.
The AfD and UKIP have lost so many seats though. I mean Europe going to the right is true, but those parties are not good examples.
Sweden democrats and Vox were better examples
However the recent general election in Germany was a clear victory of the center, staling the AfDs approval rating. The coalition to come is center-left progressive.
@Jhon Doe UKIP is a one issue party for all the relevance it had, it was one issue
UKIP Had Seats in the EU And Two IN The UK After 2010
AfD will more after immigration crisis from Poland.
Conservatives co-opted some of UKIPs policies. Plus UKIP's support for parliamentary elections didn't translate into many seats due to their support not being concentrated enough to win under FPTP. Had we used PR they'd still decline but would cling on to some more seats perhaps.
I wish political commentators/information channels would start at least defining 4 different groups, based on social and economic issues, rather than simply saying 'left' and 'right'. Very broad and I believe useless labels. What is right? Low taxes and free trade, or anti-immigration and nationalist? The 'left' also - there's socialists and economic-left, and then there's social 'progressives' and such, which people tend to refer also as 'left'.
I know, right? Socialists in my country are nationalist, anti-immigration and broadly religious. Does that make them left or right? If you ask me, they are left, if you ask other people they will say right, it's made specifically to muddy the waters...
I agree. though we should add a fifth group, the center.
@@SirBlade666 I would rather call them uncommited, as in not leaning towards any particular policy or the other.
Le Pen is the most economically anti-capitalist or anti-liberalism party in French (that's why, apart from the massive inmigration that cause a lot of problems, workers vote for her) and all media put her like "far-right" because she is conservative (although she destroyed the communist party because she adopts the same economically ideology) LMAO
@@tesoulx You spelled "totalitarianism" wrong. But I agree that fascism and communism are about the same.
As I’ve been saying time and time again, the raise of the right has been an achievement of the left.
Very much so. Can't learn anything from history when you erase and ignore all the "problematic" bits that don't align with your narrative.
@@HiddenEvilStudios yeah I see your point but the right has done that for centuries and been successful in it so I don’t really see that being the big problem.
The big issue IMO is that the left regard some truths as being self evident, to quote the US constitution, and that is never the case for 100% of people. By not acknowledging the centuries long indoctrination of the general people and now being willing to debate every single issue, coupled with an unwillingness to “play the game” they have been opening space for those who present easy solutions for oversimplified problems, the far right.
The left seems to have aligned itself with the elites rather than the workers, exactly the opposite of what people want from them.
@@CarlosKTCosta ...You seem to misunderstand. I was talking about the left here, the ones actively misrepresenting and re-writing history to fit their narrative, like how Britain has always been a nation of immigrants and other such nonsense.
The slant towards the "far right" is a logical and predictable response when you're not a dishonest corporate bootlicker. If you exclude people from the conversation and prohibit them from speaking their mind, all you do is create extremism. In this case, on the right side. This could be easily avoided if you treated those who hold opposing ideas as thinking, feeling people instead of unthinking braying beasts howling for foreigner blood.
@@Broniath It definitely has. It's this dishonesty and empty rhetoric about changing the world for the better yet not bothering to personally lift a finger to do it that has me despising them so. "Raising awareness" is a cop-out for lazy people trying to show off how virtuous they are.
The French far right party is the national front (Front Nationale) not the Northern League which is Italian
*Rassemblement national
@@poliorcetix979 it's funny because rassemblement national was the name one of the biggest collaborationist movement that killed and denounced a lot of Jews and helped nazis chase resistant. Moreover the party was before called "front populaire" the name of one of the most common communist resistance movement in France during WW2. They are really bad at choosing name .
@@squirrel287 c'est vrai, ils ont de mauvais conseillers publicitaires ;)
@@poliorcetix979 après du moment que personne s'en rend compte lol.
Move to the right? Well not really..
What do left-right even mean? Economically speaking Europe has gone more social-democratic/left, but the anti-Islam/-Immigration parties have grown and the moderate conservatives remained stable.
Now what are the current fiscal views in France or the rest of Europe right now? Do they want to save money to pay off their debts do they want to spend more money?
Because your outlook on society and economics have absolutely nothing to do with one another. They never have in Europe: we've had Christian democracy around here (so basically pro-religious social democracy) since directly after the war.
@@yarpen26 Rather broad claim, the postwar French right would never ever call themselves Christian democrats even if they may share some policies, largely due to France's particular relationship with religion.
@@charlesmadre5568 Christian democrats basically called themselves Gaullists in France. And de Gaulle himself was very much overt about his Catholicism.
@@yarpen26 Sure, but Gaullism marked a clear break from the prewar French right which was openly anti-semitic and importantly Catholic fundamentalist with factions believing in the Bourbons' divine right to rule.
Video ignores a big factor that parts of left wing policies have been adopted by other parties in the French political landscape. Namely, National Front with left wing economics and Macron with social policy and foreign policy. So while the pure left wing has collapsed their issues find themselves in a new political landscape
Is national front kinda strasserist/national bolshevik? Like a calm Right wing socialism?
@@foxpickaxe The National Rally (previously National Front) aren't strasserist since even though they talk about workers a lot they don't do much organising since unions in France are still left-wing. Also, they don't intend to be a party that crosses the aisle, they are firmly on the right and assume it, so their economic policies are not left wing. They may contain several left wing elements to maintain a populist image, but it's kind of ridiculous to suggest that just because a party described as "far-right" aren't neoliberal extremists means they must be communist.
@@charlesmadre5568 le pen is a communist confirmed.
@@foxpickaxe Strasserism is a kind of nazism, so as much as I and many other people dislike the national rally (importantly not taking about the national FRONT), its not an actual neonazi party, by most standards
"The far right" Usually lean to the left economically, Like third position...
You and a lot of people have said that Europe has shifted to the right in recent years (which is fair enough) but here in Ireland if anything theres been a shift to the left with it looking increasingly unlikely that there won’t be some variety of left wing party in government (or maybe leading government) in a country which has been traditionally dominated by center right parties, just strange that Ireland seems to be going along a different trend to the rest of Europe and was wondering your opinion
It makes more sense in context. Firstly, the three oldest parties have been in decline for a long time. Labour collapsed first, and the same is now happening with Fianna Fail and Fine Gael, not least because (a) civil war politics are pretty irrelevant these days and (b) both parties are ideologically practically identical though FF has a more populist streak, and FG tend to be a bit more christian democratic and Tory in their outlook. They've been consistently behind the times as far as the electorate's wishes are concerned as far as liberal reforms go (they had to be dragged kicking and screaming towards having the marriage equality and abortion referendums), and they've screwed up by the numbers as far as health and housing are concerned, with Sinn Fein mopping up people who might otherwise have voted for FF/FG. In fact, had SF not underestimated their chances in the last election, they may be in power now.
Fundamentally though, the rise of SF has a lot in common with that of the European right: traditional parties increasing became out of touch with the desires of the electorate, and a group of populists (SF are more a populist party than a socialist one) took advantage.
I'm happy to see FF and FG finally collapse, but I would've preferred SF not to have been the ones to benefit from it.
ireland isnt the only one, in portugal the socialists, communists and social democrats have the majority
Ireland is a small tax haven country, so not really relevant.
@@Jonas_M_M to be entirely honest I find that description very accurate. I’m personally maybe not the best person to ask because I’m somewhat biased against Sinn Féin (I’d much rather labour or some other left wing party) they’re quite open with their objectives. As a friend of mine once jokingly said. They stand for reunification first, socialist paradise second. There’s concern generally about their ira past and if they’re just left wing populists promising impossible things. So yeah far left and Irish republican fit the bill quite well
@@talideon oh certainly agree. Wish labour or some other socialist party could get their shit together but I’m quitely optimistic that in the event Sinn Féin do end up in government they’ll at least try to get a socialist manifesto through and make good some of their promises (though not by any means a guarantee)
Melenchon reading the Title of the Video : Are you sure about that?
Thoses days… yes we are sure, he is the one who killed left so yes
It's almost like abandoning the entire working class in order to spend all your time clarifying your gender pronouns isn't a viable electoral strategy. Who could have known? (Not TLDR, apparently.)
Does anybody who makes these allegations actually know anything about the French socialists?
Not mutually exclusive. Class liberation and gender and race liberation have always gone hand in hand
@@evelinak177 Maybe a white worker that has 3 kids, low wage, credit debt, 50h / week to keep things afloat doesn't want a young rich Parisian socialist come at him saying "YoU'rE wHite PrIvIlEdGed mAn"...just maybe.
@@evelinak177 That is pretty romantic, probably from the early contemporary France, but today, there is a trend of revisionism who is bring by the new French Left who only screw the idea of revolution and progressivism, thus alienating themselves from what once was the "mainstream left" who dominated French politics before
Seems the main reason is that many left-wing policies were adopted and ingrained into French society post World War II by both left and right wing governments (generous social services, high taxes on the rich, decolonization of overseas territories, social liberalism, etc).
So your saying providing basic public services and helping the citizenry is ingrain the French society unlike the us
Consider how much influence Gen. Charles de Gaulle still possesses over the Fifth Republic, I will say that most French will tend to lean to the right. General De Gaulle was the founding father of the Union of the New Republic, which was later transformed or merged again and again and finally became modern day Les Republicans.
There might be a second reason why many French turned away from the left. Macron’s former Prime Minister Edouard Philippe (somehow he had a higher approval rating than Macron) said that when he was young he believed in the socialist movement, but later he turned away from that. Before LREM, Philippe was a member of les republicans.
You could also say that adoption of social ideas as part of French national identity after WW2 effectively killed left parties as there mission was done.
Le Pen is the most economically anti-capitalist or anti-liberalism party in French (that's why, apart from the massive inmigration that cause a lot of problems, workers vote for her) and all media put her like "far-right" because she is conservative (although she destroyed the communist party because she adopts the same economically ideology) LMAO
@@poltergeist7621 maybe if you post this comment fifty more times people are going to believe that le pen isn't fascist
Les républicains (LR) are technocrats nowadays
They share more ideas with La république en marche (LREM, Macron’s party ) than other right wing party…
Historically it’s the same party but they’re not same politically nowadays
@@STDVH Thanks for providing more info. Merci.
2:24 "Le Pen beat Hamon" ? Actually he made 6% so there is a long list of candidates that beated him 😅
Rohhh, ça va ! Eh ! 😅
The lack of research in this video is quite astounding, especially regarding Mélenchon. To be clear, he did not "intimidate" police officers, he got angry at what was very clearly a disproportionate and arguably illegal seizing operation to "prove" non-existent irregularities that were very easy to check. He did say some stupid things in the campaign though, but the occasional controversies never stuck for very long. It’s also worth noting that the method that was used by polling institutes during this campaign was such that Mélenchon, and the left in general, were grossly underestimated in the polls. So much so that there was a _5 point gap_ between the final polls and Mélenchon’s actual score in the election.
The video also fails to mention that the current president was the economy minister of François Hollande, which is very important − François Hollande was _not_ a socialist in any shape or form, his policies were in the direct continuity of Sarkozy’s. The El Khomry law that spurred those protests was largely written by Macron himself. It’s not so much that the leftwing electorate disappeared, but rather that the centrist, free-market friendly electorate that voted for Hollande in 2012 joined Macron instead (many journalists actually tried to paint Macron as a progressive, center-left candidate at the time).
Also, there was a fourth candidate, Fabien Roussel from the Communist Party, which actually scored higher than Anne Hidalgo.
The fact about Hollande is that he was never intended to be the candidate for the left in 2012. He was the Prime Secretary of the PS and was a man able to find agreements between the various wings of the party to make them work together. Thanks to his work, the French left won an humongous majority in the various territorial assembly, from Régions to municipality. But the initial candidate was Dominique Strauss-Kahn, an economist seen as a good financial gestionnaire able to bring the country back from the 2009 crisis, but he was also the man caught in the Sofitel Scandal, and thus his candidacy was void.
Hollande was chosen not by default, but because in this small span of time, he was the only able to prepare a serious campaign. He was a lucky candidate but his presidency would not be the same. On the first day during his trip to Germany, his plane was struck by lightning; in the Syrian Civil war, he had agreed a "red line" with the US and UK, for intervening if the Assad regime used Gaz attack against its population, and when it was done, Cameron and Obama backed-down. His tenure saw the terror attacks first in Charlie Hebdo, then the Bataclan. He was championed when he intervened in Mali to defend the government against djihadists, but not by the French people.
And during all this five years, he has not clear majority. He won the initial legislative elections with ease, but the party was internally split along lines that he could no longer bridge, and for the first years, there was the "Frondeurs" (reference to the Fronde that was a revolt of the French nobility and parliaments against the king in the Ancient Regime) that disagreed with his social-democrat/social-liberal orientation as not being Good ol' Mitterand or even Jospin socialism. In the end, he was only followed by center-left and ecologists loyalist (Fabius, Cazeneuve, Le Fol) on one hand and the more conservative and liberal wing of the PS (Valls the first of them).
@@night6724 no
@@night6724 France should restore the Merovingian dynasty!
@@night6724 Because the Bourbon monarchy's old system of government is incompatible with France's current democratic system.
France is doing fine as a republic, there is no need to change that.
@@night6724 As I see it, the modern French Republic is as French if not more so than the old Kingdom was as the Republic better represents the French people than an absolute monarchy can.
And while Liberal Democracy as a system indeed merits criticism and is in my view one that should be phased out soon in favor of a different type of democracy, the points you brought up against it are not faults exclusive to it and in many cases originated in countries ruled by monarchs.
Liberal democracy despite all of it's faults is in comparison with absolute monarchy still a preferable system in my opinion as it still puts some power in the hands of a country's people. Monarchies ( even constitutional ones ) inherently take power away and gives it to a small group of people based not on their merits but on their 'birthright'.
If there is no true France in this world anymore due to the loss of the monarchy, than that's a sacrifice well worth it in my view.
@@night6724 Liberté, égalité, fraternité, that's what is French. By definition a monarchy fails on the second.
You don't need to be a conspiracy theorist to know in your gut that something in the world has gone horribly wrong.
You should have mentioned Manuel Valls, Hollande's PM, to explain why his term was a disaster. He completely overshadowed him and was quite authoritarian.
The French Socialists, Greens and other left wing groupings manage to cooperate at the local and regional levels, which is why most of the big cities have left wing or green mayors. It's only at the national level that the big egos make it impossible.
I really hate how the failure of neoliberal politics in Europe is driving some people further right... Like, do you honestly expect a more extreme version of the same is going to help out?
A lot of these far right movement are protectionist anti big business and pro social walfare like Pis and Fidesz. You really need to pay more attention to each country, left and right is not the same as in America in other countries.
France a neoliberal country it's the second highest taxed in the oced it's a socialist country.
Left: introduced as left
Right: Introduced as 'far' right
This chap is already brainwashed..🙄 repeats like 🐑
But these particular parties ARE far right. AfD's leader Bellatrix von Storch is literally the granddaughter of Hitler's finance minister. Front National's former leader was a holocaust denier and nazi apologist. UKIP is undeniably a far-right nationalist party. These were the extreme examples illustrating the right-wing shift in Europe. The moderate right in France is represented by the Republican Party.
Well that video didn't age well...
The French citizenry maybe moving towards the right on issues like immigration, but if you propose to increase the work week by one hour the whole country hits the streets in protest.
Because France was always at the vanguard of the left wing, for the people, both in economics and social issues, but the new left is so "self-hating" France, who they rock their own boat by doing it
only the left wing does that lol. i can tell you that it's the right-wing that's hard working
Very useful and relevant synopsis.
Wow. This is very interesting!
When you drill down into the details it gets rather confusing. I also feel that using the term left and right without providing some type of metric to prove it may not be very helpful.
You can say any party which represents a union movement is a traditional working class left wing party. Any party which represents labour deregulation or reduction in taxation could be classed as right wing, thus the increased ability to fire people could be classed as right of the current position, but then increased taxation on fuel would be classed as left wing policy. An example of the difficult of determine any move to the left or right can be seen with Macron.
Macron was a civil servant and then moved into corporate finance. He was then appointed by Hollande, who was a socialist, but proposed business friendly legislation. The first indicates left leaning and the second right leaning. He became president on a centralist platform, but as his main opposition was a right wing party he would have occupied at least a centre-left position.
In government he proposed taxation and labour reforms, which indicate a right leaning, but then proposed a fuel tax, which could be implied as left leaning.
For immigration he opposed new camps, but made it easier to become a citizen. Later he started policies to restrict the number of immigrants reaching France, but at the same time saying Europe was not experiencing an immigration crisis. I can’t tell if the trend was left or right from this.
He wanted military spending to be reduced, but also reduced taxation and he wanted a balanced budget, so I assume he cut public spending. He proposed strict anti-terrorism laws. Once again this is a mixed bag.
I could go on, what I see here is a very much centralist government. Perhaps he is further right than the previous socialists, but I would not class his government as a traditional right wing government.
If you wish a simple metric then government spending as a percentage of the country’s GDP may be a good starting point. If it increasing it’s probably left wing, if it’s decreasing right wing and if stable then this is probably a centralist government. If you look at the numbers you can see it was decreasing from 2014 to 2019 and then went up a lot in 2020/21, which over Macrons terms indicates he is centre-left.
There may be better metrics to provide any trend to the left or right, but i personally do not see any strong trends. Its other factors, corruption and non-left/right factors.
On the last years many countries got left-wing governments across the EU: Spain, Portugal, Italy, several Scandinavian countries and most recently Germany. Saying that there’s a shift to the right in Europe seems to miss a part of the story
yeah I think that is more correct to say that a sector in the right in Europe has radicalised.
But in a lot of countries the social-democrats and Christian-Democrat/people's Parties have moved closer to one another to the point that there are very few differences left. I think this is true for Germany and Sweden for example. New parties have become more popular because of the traditional parties movies closer together.
Bro, my country (Spain) is a f*cking joke, the worst government in decades, only supported by independentists. It won't win the next election at all.
@@poltergeist7621 We are at half the legislature, when they lose we will have to make an analysis on the colapse of the left in Spain, but for now they are in govern, they won the elections and they are stable(-ish). With this premature analysis, there was a time when it was obvious that podemos was going to win the national elections or another where it was going to surpass the socialists. We can talk about the polls and analyse them (which arent good at all for the left, of course). but we shouldnt talk about polls so far from elections as predictions, because they are not.
I wouldnn't count the new German government as left. They are falling in the same neoliberal trap the last SPD-lead government fell. I mean, yeah, 12 € min wage is good but that is the only left wing policy left in the coalition agreement. It's not even a month ago when the FDP wanted to break up the German train company (DB) in a stateowned rail operator and private train operators. But Britain is the perfect example that this model doesn't work.
I don't think Europe has "moved to the right".
It has moved to the "populist right".
That is: socially conservative and economically incomprehensible. Meaning, they talk as left-wing economists, but govern like fiscal conservatives (or support right-wing economic policy). Most people who vote for those right wing populist parties either do so for social conservative reasons, or the left-wing economic blablabla. Not because they are overall ring-wing, even if that is (or would be) the outcome.
The usage of the world populist is wildly incorrect to describe the modern right-wing parties.
They appeal to populist rhetoric, sure, but it has absolutely nothing to do with populist movements, The actual origin of the word, or how the parties typically described as “right-wing populist” govern.
We don't wanna become minorities in our own native lands. It's really quite simple.
@@MattOlsen294 I use the term the way it is commonly used, namely that they appeal to a popular sentiment and make use of populist sentiment.
@@shantyclips6358 Did you copy-paste that from google translate after feeding it a speech of Hitler? I mean, it really doesn't become more explicit than that.
@@shantyclips6358 100%
I was generally a center-left leaning person myself but since the early 2010's I started becoming more right-wing as well. The main reason for me is the bias and incompetence of left-wing politics in Europe or the Western countries. Also for Europe the factor of illegal migrants coming from the Middle East and North Africa who are refusing to integrate and causing problems because of cultural differences.
Do you know why they came you Europe
Yeah but this is how the right wing is duped as well. The reason so many migrants are coming into Europe is because their homelands were destabilised by NATO countries. The War on Terror, for example which was started by US president George W Bush. You had Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Yemen, etc the natural consequences of these interventions was that migrants and refugees were going to flee to countries with higher living standards, such as those in the EU. And so it’s pretty hypocritical for many right wingers to call migrants "invaders" when it was NATO that actually invaded the Middle East and started this chaos.
@@Vivian-fq8yf as if the average right winger has control of what corrupt nato governments do.
@@andrewjennings7306 I mean I guess that depends on what you mean. Their leaders certainly support all of those interventions. Donald Trump and Boris Johnson are very hawkish on foreign policy, just like all of the liberals. It’s also common for right wingers to want to join the military. And most Conservatives I have met in real life and online have awful views towards these countries that NATO has invaded. They basically treat Muslims as if they are all Al Qaeda. Similarly anti Asian hate crimes have risen dramatically in the US due to all of the propaganda towards China.
I mean it’s a vicious cycle basically they don’t just hate immigrants they hate those people in the developing world, which is why they invade their countries, plunder the resources, commit what is basically genocide, and once the wars are finished they get mad because they didn’t think that as a result migrants were going to come to Western countries. And most of the wealth that is plundered from these countries only go to the top 1% in the West. So they then they fight each other like wolves over the scraps. And after that happens the elite comes up with a "solution", which is basically to find a new target country to invade and the cycle starts over again.
@@Vivian-fq8yf wtf. You have a caracaturish view of right wingers that is clearly based on left wing propaganda
5:49 It's pronounced "Mel en shon". The way you said it translates to "Melen dumb" which did give me a good chuckle
"Con" translates literally to "cunt" in fact.
Shame on TDLR, normally well-informed - for mispronouncing Melechon so outrageously! Please issue an apology immediately! 'Me Neither' below is right to point out that the mistake is not just a little detail!
@@meneither3834 it can also translate to "idiot", regardless, these are details that a non-french speaking person wouldn't know, and tbh, with his accent, it s very clear he didn't mean any offense.
Historically, forming coalitions in France is a very difficult task, because the parties don't have a consensual approach to politics. It won't be possible for them to form an alliance, in my opinion. It would be seen as an act of desperation which wouldn't go well with the voters. On top of that, I think that the largest problem of the traditional left, as well as the right, is that the french people are frustrated with the way the politicians are willing to give up their values to grab a few votes left and right and it's just become a strategic game at this point, very far from the real concerns of the people.
In Finland 20 years ago all kind of coalitions were possible. Left wing alliance would have had enough common ground to go in coalition with the right wing corporatist party.
These days major left wing parties say how our Social democrats are too "right wing"
So stable coalitions are simply impossible.
Two people have made this comment word for word, bots?
@@Philiptanzer Seems like it was copied by someone. This is the original comment.
Amazing content!
Everytime i watch these videos i check out the comments. And people always catch mistakes. I can only think of 2 reasons: lack of experts on certain countries to contact and sloppynes.
They need an editor that is not involved in production.
You can only fit so many information in a video, and the actual mistakes weren't too terrible or changing the story in the scope of the video...
@@ferrum7625 exactly this. It was obvious he meant italian for that one picture with the euro parties, just misspoke. I also saw a typo for migrants. Rapid fire releases will lead to this type of stuff when you have limited man hours. I understand this isn't CNN and doesn't have their budget, and it's better for not being CNN. At least these guys pin a comment if they majorly butcher something.
It’s pronounced « Me-len-SHON »
eh bah comment tu sais? t'as demandé Mélanchon en personne?
Ch in French is “sh”, not “k”. I usually love your videos but maybe for this one you could have done a bit more research.
@@uzochiokeke4328 C'est comme ça qu'il le prononce.
I'm sure you guys have perfect English pronounciation, as French people usually have... Lmao
@@pidu4588 damn. Talked abt the same subject wth my dad the morning. He told me abt how americans were so cool abt pronunciation not being perfect and french losing their shit over it (they're our 3rd and 2nd languages respectively).
Thanks for the hilarious reminder. Idk why they be losing shit tbh.
The 3 left wing families (centre-left, greens and far-left) had in 2017 3 major presidential candidates representing them.
The communists ran no candidate and supported Jean-Luc Mélenchon as the far-left candidate. The centre-left was split between Benoit Hamon who had the green candidate retiring and supporting him and Emmanuel Macron.
So far there’s 3 green candidates, 6 centre-left candidates and 6 far-left candidates, and the President who still enjoys support from part of the left. Many won’t be on the ballot in April but if they remain they might be spoiler candidates.
In 2017 there were also Jean Lasalle with 1.2% (sort of green conservative), Philippe Poutou's New Anticapitalist Party (sort of Bolivarian socialist) with 1.1%, and Trotskyist Nathalie Arthaud's Worker's Struggle Party with 0.6%.
@@charlesmadre5568
Yep ! But I only mentioned the « major » candidates
Ok we all know phoenix rises from the ashes... (More true now)
I think a video focusing on Europe’s general shift to the right would be quite interesting.
0:26 "socialism is when taxes" - Carl Max
French left candidates indeed fail to mobilize their voters, but the voters do not swing to the right as a reaction, many simply chose to not play the game anymore. The french left-wing newspaper Libération published this year an article on left-leaning voters saying that, in case of a Macron-Le Pen duel in 2022, they would not Bother to go and vote Macron to keep Le Pen out of the presidency, what is called in France "Le barrage républicain", the republican levee.
In Finland that "right wing shift" only happens in center-left and in Center.
Big left wingers will only vote for "real left wing" or they will not vote at all.
While center-left wingers might vote for right wing if there is bad left wing candidate.
Ton théâtre antifasciste
Got a tip for you! There’s currently being filed a lawsuit against the Prime Minister of Denmark for breaking the constitutional laws during her restrictions against COVID, not only that, the Danish PM has also supposedly deleted evidence. Denmark and New Zealand are both considered to have the least amount of corruption in the world, so this situation is pretty much unheard of. To put it into perspective; a head candidate for a different party, felt it was necessary to resign, because she didn’t attend meetings as a minister during holiday, which none of her predecessors did before her, but her case came to the public attention. Her political career got ruined after that, and she was actually a really competent one. That’s the usually level of scandals we’re dealing with. A PM breaking the laws of the constitution and deleting evidence.. that’s wild, to put it mildly.
Imagine screwing up so badly that you completely and utterly cripple an entire political party….
To say that the electorate has moved to the right is an absurd oversimplification on two fronts:
1) There is more than one left-right axis. Or in other words, the left-right axis doesn't cut through all issues in the same way, meaning, people won't fall consistently on one side between all issues. Economic left-right is way different from social left-right, which is different from foreign policy left-right, etc.
2) The measure to consider isn't the strongest party, but the voter share among all parties. The strongest party can be further to the right, yet a majority of people often still vote for other parties. Plurality & majority are not the same things.
Everytime I hear that the wages are low therefore people shifted to the right (2:50) I laugh, and cry, and laugh, and cry.
Not once in human history has a cut in taxes led to an increase in wages.
@@Scarletraven87 that's absolutely dead wrong. At least 4 times, supply side economics have been implemented and the result was an increase in growth rate.
@@suserman7775 True, but it also led to problems down the line. Supply side economics leads to booms which inevitably leads to busts and growing economic inequality.
@@stephenjenkins7971 busts are caused for other reasons, like for example the intensely stupid idea of giving home loans to people who can't afford it, which caused a housing price bubble that popped.
@@suserman7775 Supply side economics often come with a loosening of restrictions on companies and banks which allow for such shenanigans in the first place; Trump did so during his administration for example. There's also the issue of the lower class rarely feeling that enrichment; it usually only affects the middle class and up and doesn't guarantee economic mobility while quickly raising government debt.
There's more, but suffice it to say that Supply side economics is a VERY big double edged sword.
Imagine making Paris more walkable and pedestrian friendly and people hate you for it
imagine ripping up city roads for the benefit and convenience of tourists
European countries: "let's look at the government."
France: "Let's look at the President."
Moving right usually sounds innocuously like becoming more conservative. Is it possible that European voters have moved more populist rather than more right? These two should not be confused as historically the outcomes have been much more nefarious...
Independent of oneselves political views, it is sad to see that the french electorate's leftists do not really have anyone competitive to support and/or vote. It is a huge problem when representative democracies lose political plurality; it is the breeding ground for political apathy or even distrust.
America has for example a comparable problem with its unbreakable two-party system where a lot of people do not feel themselves left with a real choice.
(Clarification: France and America do not share the same causes/problems, but the outcome is similiar.)
Le Pen is the most economically anti-capitalist or anti-liberalism party in French (that's why, apart from the massive inmigration that cause a lot of problems, workers vote for her) and all media put her like "far-right" because she is conservative (although she destroyed the communist party because she adopts the same economically ideology) LMAO
Luckily it's only the end of the presidential elections that use plurality vote, not for the other election systems (to my understanding this is what creates bipartisan systems).
The left has stopped defending workers' rights but those of minorities which pissed off a lot of people.
People who voted communist in the 1980s now vote on the far right. Who votes for the far right? It's simple all workers who are immigrants or in the countryside, people who are fed up with insecurity, the police and the army, vote mostly far right too.
Who vote on the left or for Macron? It's simple, it's all the privileged people who live in the city center. So there is a problem.
Also left is very much drawn to the American left. The French do not want to become like the Anglo-Saxon countries where you have to live in communities especially like the US or South Africa.
@@achillezins6548 First line on your comment sums it up quite well.
In Finland major workers party celebrated recently, when a papermill went out of business... "this is great victory for climate"
So you can guess twice if those who lost their jobs will vote for those left wing parties in future.
Don't get me wrong, Climate work is important, but I rather saw polluting factories from Asia moving back to Finland under strict climate rules.
@@jarskil8862 yeah I totally agree with you.
The gilet jaune were created because of a carbon taxes on cars. Green parties don’t thing on the short term for hardworking workers who can barely make it pass the end of the month.
Also like you said I prefer to relocate our industry back to Europe. It’s so hypocritical from our part to say that we are doing something against climate change but we emit indirect carbon emissions.
An another point why green parties in France are getting less and less popular because they are not pro nuclear at all. And us french are starting to become again very pro nuclear for climate because we don’t want to end up like Germany.
Good. This trend must be continued everywhere!
Hey can I have one of those fab checked lumberjack jackets? Takes me back to the 70s.
Well, I would go back to 2017 when both the left and the traditional right (LR) organized primaries (not a traditional way to choose candidates in France) which resulted in choosing inept candidates, in alienating the center-leaning electorate and resulted in opening the center for Macron. The situation has not evolved much ever since : both the left and LR still being pretty divided and enable to get any sort of credible leader and Macron occupying the center.
Macron recent push to the right is just a tactic to leave as little space as possible to Le pen and Zemmour as he does not really have to worry about any candidate on his left.
Salvini’s party is just “League”not “Northern League”. They have changed this a few years ago as they now have national ambitions not just regional (unfortunately)
very concise analysis. excellent. but that handsome set of moustaches deserve to be in sharp focus! lol
You guys should make a TLDR News for South America
"Migrats"? "Sentance"?
Sorry, I just have to point out.
Nice topic and discussion though, thanks for the information as always.
It wouldn’t be a tldr video if it wasn’t full of stupid mistakes
Marine La Pen is not that bad.
will you make a video about the Quirinale treaty?
It all started with Gaius Julius Caesar, leader of the Populares, conquering Gaul in 50 bc
Mélenchon left the socialist party in 2008 not 2018 guys
Let’s not forget that many former socialists became part of Macrons En Marche. They knew the socialist ‘brand’ was damaged so they helped set up the new party (which some people still laughingly call populist) with other Centre leftists and centrists. Although Macron has moved to the right publicly on some issues this is to prevent further hemorrhaging of his vote. In reality he is a Centre/Centre left president
I honestly don't know where to place Macron. So for example, he cut corporation tax from 33% to 25%. Does that make him right-wing, or is 33% pretty high by western standards and is he just moving the country from a left-wing stance to a more centrist one?
Many other such instances. He's really hard to place - which was part of his initial appeal, I suppose, there was something in his platform to appeal to just about everyone except the FN core vote.
@@alexpotts6520You make a good point about France being quite left wing in economic terms. I consider macron to be a neoliberal on economic issues and centre left of most social issues, except recently where he’s trying to dampen Le Pen/Zemmour’s chances by saying socially conservative things
I guess we could call him left based on inclusiveness but he's economically right by a long shot, nobody in their right mind would call someone trying to cut budget on every single safety net a leftist or even center-left tbh
More videos on France please!
Finally talking about it then
I myself have shifted a bit to the right over the years. And you are spot on, the reasons for that are migrants and the so called "woke" culture or whatever. I just disagree with both.
Amazing how you were totally wrong 😊😂🤣
Power is a drug. Those in power are usually the last to realise the game is up.
the politics is like a battle royale
The left is like a phoenix
The trauma of the migrant crisis and the massacres is why the French and Europeans in general have moved to the right after being leftists for over 40 years (IMO). It was the handling of this crisis and not the migrants that disillusioned Europeans from left wing politics. It also led to Brexit. I'd like to see what the EU looks like with a few right wing governments in tow.
2:40 "Migrats" (notice the misspelling). Lol.
Another technical mistake is that Macron is a centrist and he's not right wing
what you said about the EU's shift to the right isn't really true. 2 of your'e examples were poland and hungary and both countries were right wing for years. the real shift was people who were previously centre right to right wing that shifted to the far right
The same goes for the left. It's not a shift to the right (though it wouldn't surprise me if there was a net shift to the right); it's called "polarisation"; a shift to the extremes.
You ignored the fact that France doesn't use proportional representation & the Socialist, Green & Liberal voters are more fractured. Which is a pattern across Europe. The difference is the UK & France lack Proportional Representation to compensate for this.
France & the UK still can't really be thought of in the same way though, as France uses a two-round system for both legislative & presidential elections, allowing third forces to compete as long as they're popular enough, unlike British-style FPTP which by design enforces a two-party system.
Liberal is not left, Liberals promote freedom be it social or economical.
Even if you put all those "lefts" together, they will be behind the right and the other right
Maybe dividing people into Left & Right isn’t the best way of understanding political identity
its extremely important. do you think humans are basically good? or basically evil? its a major distinction
@@007kingifrit
Please explain ...
@@frederic4844 if you think humans are basically good. you agree with tabula rosa and are thus left wing, if you think humans are mostly bad, you agree with the leviathan and are thus right wing
those are the books that started the distinction
@@007kingifrit
Ok, that is assuming there is anything reliable to be found in those books … what, now if I think that human being are capable of both the best and the worst ?
@@frederic4844 the books are the basis of all left and right thinking
if you think humans are capable of the best and worst you have to ask yourself. what would a batch of humans left on an island do as children? what kind of adults would they be with no societal upbringing?
at 2:40 it says "MIGRATS" lol
Very interesting video, but I can't agree with one detail. Polish ruling party - Law and Justice (PiS) isn't exactly "right wing". It's very religious and conservative but at the same time it has a very socialist economic approach. I see this misconception all the time made by other countries and I think that Fidesz has a similar situation. So I wouldn't really compare those parties to the right-wing in France or England.
Nobody gives a shit about the economics. When they call them far right, they don't mean that they lower taxes, they just mean that they are authoritarian lunatics who detest everyone who isn't 100% like them. You don't get off being a Hitler apologist by saying you disapprove of the Winterhilfe.
That's no "misconception", stop manipulating.
@@yarpen26 so when we said far left its just mean the same thing like stalin did right?
There are two parties much further to the right compared to Fidesz (used to be one party, the second largest party a few years ago, but they split into two due to some internal bickering). So yeah, it could be even worse.
@@yarpen26 dude, you ok?
@@yarpen26 Write less, read more. Unbelievable ignorance.
Zemmour: “I believe that at least northern Italy should have been French”
TLDR NEWS EU: Ok,monsieur
He can come and take it. If anything, Nitza and Savoia are ours and the French stole it from *us.*
@@HighFlyingOwlOfMinerva there was an agreement between France and the Savoy dynasty. Without Napoleon III and France, Italy would never be an United country
I’ll take a drink every time I hear it pronounced Melencón lol
Would love to see an actualised version, from 2022 to 2024, something like that
Next video: Why America Has No Left Wing (with any hope of winning)
They sort of made a pair of videos like that before the last election. They explained the polling predictions and likely strategies the parties were using. They explained how Bernie was too far left to gain enough enough moderate support to have a chance, which is probably why they picked Biden, who is anything but straight left. Also, how Trump had a strong chance of winning, especially because of the incumbant advantage, and how he actually kept most of his campaign promises.
@@sirdeadlock The funny thing is that Bernie is not really a left wing candidate either.
The US has the problem that its not a working democracy in the first place.
Thats why the positions of the population are wide spread from far left to far right, while the establishment of both parties is centered around the far right alone. The majority of the US population want medicare for all. Nobody gives a shit. Most voters don't matter.
@@AliothAncalagon 2/3 of the usa population is on private healthcare. How did you decide the majority wants goverment healthcare?
Simple, the wealth controls the media. The DNC is not 'left', they are 'liberal' (neo or otherwise), making them center to center right, and they are essentially the 'gate keepers'. Liberals agree in a few social issues along the lines of the progressive, but are completely align with the right about economic issues which to them supersede every other concerns. It not that they fear Bernie to be "too left" to win, the progressive are the enemy they needed votes from. They may not like the idea of Trump, but they positively hated the idea of progressives getting anywhere near any seat of power. Because as long as it's a GOP or centrist DNC in the seat of power, the economic policies doesn't change by anything other then cosmetic. The DNC fear the left as much as the GOP, they just needed to pretend they want the same things. While the GOP don't really need to court the votes of the left.
@@s.m.a8182 Based on polls
I guess France had amnesia after 1871, lol.
Love your outfit and jacket!
The French are determined to outdo us Americans when it comes to political craziness. But they will never achieve our level of craziness.
We are working at it but still a long way to go before we get a Trump as president ...
My takeout from this clip is that the reason why France has no left with any hope of winning is that their alleged "left-wing" candidates behave like neo-feudalists, which would obviously not go down well with neither left-wing nor independent voters.
If you can't appeal to the left, the right already have a party.
Not really, the two largest left wing parties, Mélanchon and the Greens both hold real left-wing anti-capitalist policies (the greens a bit less.)
Le Pen is the most economically anti-capitalist or anti-liberalism party in French (that's why, apart from the massive inmigration that cause a lot of problems, workers vote for her) and all media put her like "far-right" because she is conservative (although she destroyed the communist party because she adopts the same economically ideology) LMAO
As a left-wing french, this title saddens me a lot
Imagine supporting the people that's policies will make you a minority
@@lucv2234 Yes. For now. However in 2050, half population of France will be muslim if France continues with this insane immigration.
@@lucv2234 True about legal immigration illegal immigration is still very active.
What is happening to the sound quality?
The heck! Why didn't you warn us this was a now video in the thumbnail? What are you playing at here?
1:06 while the situation is not good, iw ouldnt call it an oligopoly, its even the other way aroaund, if you have more parties that represent the same way of thinking, then there will be competition on the level of competence, instead of just political direction, so only having one party for each major political direction is more oligopolic
This video is so inaccurate...
Explain why?
@@zouzouglouglou9738 there's errors scattered all over. Didn't really talk about the possibility of a left wing union which has happened in the past with candidates with even more different views. Just I dont think it's well done tbh.
@@zouzouglouglou9738 the Ligue is an Italian party mainly...
@@Nlapin Didn't the video end with asking us if we think they'll make a coalition?
Its from a lefty pro-EU trash, what did you expect?
My dumb football brain looked and this and thought “Nah they got Mbappe what you on about no left wing?” 😂
Not the end but a long term blip, not a short temporary one