2254 Copper, Urea And Sunlight Equals Fuel - A New Way
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If you can reproduce the experiment that would be awesome. 😊
Yeah, that would be great! ❤
Yes, I'd love to see it, too.
As a farmer I can tell you urea prices have gone up a lot. As an engineer we know copper is expensive too. :) A couple of years ago I did a few experiments to make ethanol and I found that the price difference is not very different than petrol, because when petrol gets expensive so does everything else.
But these are used to make the catalyst, they are not elements of the final fuel, made from just sunlight, CO2 and water to make methanol. The catalyst should last a very long time. So the cost is not a big part of the final fuel.
I'm also a farmer... C O2 is plant food.
Where is your farm?
One of those weird places where water freezes?
If so, you can make ethanol pretty darn cheap
In a warm shed, you will mix up your mash with whatever fruit or vegetable you have available with a high carbohydrate content
I'm just going to assume you can look up how to make ethanol
Now here's where you save money
Instead of distilling the whole thing, put your mash outside in the freezing weather and just the water will freeze, not the liquor
You can keep on doing this and removing the ice chunks until you have some pretty potent alcohol left over and you can't get anything to freeze out of it any longer
Then and only then you can run it through your still. But now you've gotten all that pesky water out of there so it should distill pretty darn quick and use as little heat as possible
@@Bozemanjustin in the mountains of Az, own a vacuum still and build my own wind generators. Been living off grid for 10 years now and in the process of building a 60 by 20 foot walipini. Uploaded a few wind generator videos
Plant see-O2?
ha ha
The "savings" will NEVER be passed down to the consumer
Presently, production costs of methanol are 7.9p per litre. The UK government will not accept synthetic fuels over EVs. Methanol can be transported in the existing gas grid, can supply heat and light using direct methanol fuel cell technology, which is a mature technology, Methanol can be used in most ICE vehicles, older oned with modification. Newer ones require a black box conversion, which is relatively cheap. Existing fuel tankers can transport it with changes to the sealing materials. As time passes, ICE vehicles would naturally be replaced by methanol fuel cells. CO2, could be utilised again and again. That would just leave Nox as the Green cult villain. Of course there are many routes to produce alcohols, most of them using waste materials. I would very much like to see your experiment.
Prohibition had a lot more to do with fuel, than drink, IMO.
Not without competition for sure.
Definitely interested to see an updated version of your older vid. Clearer audio, graphs, & chemical & molecular depictions are always a plus.
Hey Rob, I would love to see you utilize your processes to fabricate methanol. I am familiar with your older videos, but to consolidate the effort and processes would be very interesting and rewarding. Besides, I love seeing you in your lab wiping up some really cool stuff. Leo
Robert, are you worried about the climate? If so, why?
Desperately trying to show how you don't understand climate change is actually a good look for you. 🤗
Are you referring to me or Robert?@@jvlbme
I don't get excited about any of this stuff until I see you or Nighthawk talk about it. This is incredible
Yes - A Eureka Alert, ... Moment - and an earth shattering gamechanger it surely is, !! Such rare moments are always a great Big WOW !! not least for their novelty of their new ground breaking factors. Well done Nottingham. Hope you can roll it out. Thank you for presenting it to us all. Yes please to update the video''s and reproducing the experiment. Great stuff!!
the plants aren't worried.
So you don't have any arguments, huh? Glad you commented.
I'm not worried about it.
I remember when plants ate Co2. Too bad those good ole days are gone
Yeah back when plants ate, those were the days.
Well, they still do, but there's more CO2 production nowadays, and less CO2 consumption after decades of deforestation. And it's causing an imbalance.
Yes, please do more videos along these lines! It's been a while since I reviewed your carbon nitride videos but I do recall the audio being so terrible I could barely concentrate on what you were saying. I've had it to the gills with 3D printer stuff so it's been refreshing to see more of your hard science and real tools and materials videos again lately. I miss all the gentle persuading. Teaching us how to make rivets and bellows and copper diodes were some of my favorite videos. As simple as a lot of it is, you presented things I hadn't seen taught before, things that are incredibly useful and resourceful. Hope you do some new content soon about fusing science and shop tools; a series about implementing the idea in this video would be a great place to start. As always, thanks for everything you do!
Yes please, I agree.
BRILLIANT Rob.
The Most Overlooked Thing About Transport Is Not The Deadly Gasses But The Amount Of HEAT Produced From Each Unit 😢
Bless Up Fella ❤
Don't worry about that. The Sun is a 113 TW space heater constantly running on the planet. Nothing man made will ever compare to that. The concern is the ability to radiate that heat back into space.
@@DFPercush exactly. You nailed it. 👋 Applied physics
@@DFPercush And even if it did become a problem, we could make big old space radiators with microsphere paint and beam it all out the nightside.
A side note on urea. I was stationed in the RAF in Germany in the mid ‘70s on a squadron operating Phantom jet aircraft. We used crystallised urea instead of rock salt to de-ice the ground everywhere the aircraft and vehicles went because, unlike salt, it wasn’t corrosive.
Making copper particles is very easy with electrolysis of copper in brine. The nacient reaction is taking place on the atomic level so the particles are extremely small. Of course making copper sulphate is possible the same way with just copper and dilute sulphuric acid. I use both processes in gold recovery from electronic waste.
I've used these processes to avoid the problems associated with dealing with tin, and the problems that arise from metastannic acid and/or gold stannate production. Avoiding the tin problems should be easier than dealing with them afterwards.
Thank you for sharing Robert
not everyone is concerned.
many of us are bemused.
at best..
Could you demonstrate how we can reproduce the breakthrough, preferably with the kind of common, cheap ingredients that are widely available.
An updated video would be great, especially if it includes a pioneering practical application.
good job, thanks
Sounds exciting,please update the previous videos in light of this development. Thanks.
Great video Robert.
wow ! mixed into the equation.
thx for the info
Sorry all I could think of was a carbon lined copper piss pot😂. Amazing the things they discover with a bit of support finally. Thanks for this channel 👍
always fun and informative
Could this be combined with those solar farms where they use mirrors to direct the light to a central point..?
Ugh, I remember a paper from my undergrad days, like in 2017-2019, where copper nanoparticles were sitting on top of carbon "hairs" and also reduced CO2 to methanol, maybe not by light though. I remember, that the idea behind copper spheres was something tied to them achieving high over potential to successfully catalyze the conversion.... Maybe...
Can't really find that same picture I'm thinking of by googling though
Sometimes i look at the sea and think a lot....
this video satisfied me and calmed me down
If I am not mistaken, heating co2 at 2000F will break the molecular bonds and give you CO and molecular oxygen. Both of those burn quite well, also reforming into co2.
Sounds great 👍🏼
Definitely interesting and all needed materials have been synthesized on this channel before. Would be REALLY interesting to see if the hobbyist setup can rival the efficiencies of the process in the paper.
Never mind rivalling. Just let me have something smaller than a bathtub to make even a liter a day.
Thank you Robert that is very interesting I hope you will " join the dots " of your previous good works to see how close you can get.
Great video Rob! One of the nice things about methanol is that it can be used in fuel cells to produce electricity.
True, too bad theyre only 30% efficient. Comparable to an engine but not a battery.
i am a huge fan of methanol as a fuel mate
This is really interesting. Is it possible in your workshop.
Would love to see a video on how to apply the copper nanoparticles to the graphitic carbon nitride
i have done it mate
No the co2 isn't causing clim ate change... 🙄
Indeed...it is only .035 % of air...just plant tree farms..
@@alhart6126 0.044 but it's the same thing
Politicians, media, corporatuon are causing it. Not our tiny cars.
@@hgvtechuk4929Not your tiny car, billions of tiny cars do contribute. Every ocean is made of raindrops.
@@dirkvornholt2507 big corporate are polluting 3 times more than the whole vehicles on the planet, and we get the blame of it because we buy from them, look at the data not at the news.
Now this...
This is an interesting video.
Make a video of both and the experiment. That would be very interesting how it works out
Awesome news.
So, you propose: powdered ,copper , powdered carbon , in a copper kettle , with a glass top, water or steam, and a carbon rod with a charge. will make lots of methane fuel.
Man, this could lead to a whole new life for photochemistry. Now if we could just come up with something general like this for electrochemistry (electron transport), maybe we’d have a chain for manufacturing almost anything!
that would be great if it could be scaled up very interested. even interested in destructive distillation production of Methanol, have vast quantities of fast growing scrub timber.
Very interesting... in my lab we were synthesizing graphitic carbon nitride (g-CN) films on copper and then etching the copper to lift the g-CN off. The trouble was that the g-CN was contaminated by copper. Wish I had thought to try testing it's catalytic behavior. Incidentally, the way we made the g-CN was pretty unusual; we heated melamine plastic in a furnace without oxygen and it would partially break down and vapor deposit on copper.
Nature sure does like to provide.
Robbing plant food from the atmosphere is a f....g stupid idea.
Hundreds of millions tones of carbon were sequestered on the ground naturally millions of years ago and yet plants lived on but you think taking out the CO2 we added is a bad idea?
@Tasmantor Yes, but co2 levels were getting dangerously low. Fortunately, we came along and avoided joining the Fermi Paradox.
@@Tasmantor We are not adding any that wasn't already there in the first place.
The sequestered carbon has been removed from the carbon life cycle over millions of years. There is not an unlimited supply of carbon, which is the basis of all life on earth.
When terrestrial life first took a foothold on the land surfaces millions of years ago, atmospheric CO2 was estimated to be between 7- 8,000 ppm.
As recently as the last ice age, atmospheric CO2 was as low as 180 ppm. Anything lower is approaching starvation levels for land plants and everything that eats them. The last ice age, with its near starvation levels of CO2 was also the last great extinction era that wiped out the remaining megafauna.
Commercial greenhouse growers deliberately pump CO2 into their greenhouses because of the increased health and yield of their crops.
Releasing much of the sequestered carbon back into the atmosphere as CO2, returns that carbon to the carbon life cycle with beneficial effects for plants and the rest of the food chain and life cycle.
@hoptoads. Well said
Well said, some people cannot get past the old 'the telly tells me carbon's bad' bit. 😁
I have long thought we need to be using urea as a fuel source. Mostly though I have thought about it in terms of low voltage electrolysis, but this is even better. Every septic tank should be equipped with a recovery unit converting waste into useable gas.
Nice music !!
What other materials are produced in this process?
Please do the experiment!
I already have - just ages ago
Is there anyway (or has it been done) of capturing the exhaust gases of a motor vehicle and using the engine its self to compress those gases into a bottle. Wouldn’t it be interesting to “empty the exhaust gases” into a petrol station whilst also filling up the car. Then possibly this Urea and Copper could be used to convert those gases back into fuel?
You can't "capture" the exhaust because it is super hot gas. And it's a lot of it compared to the volume of the fuel.
Where are you gonna leave it? In a giant pressure vessel? How are you pumping it in there against so much pressure?
Eventually it will need to vent, preferably not with a catastrophic explosion.
Even if you find a way to cool the gas or precipitate it inside a contraption, you're then dealing with solids/liquids.
@@Yezpahr It may be do-able. Just not quite as simple as anthony put it. We already reuse exhaust in turbos. Maybe running it through a scrubber of some sort, and then recovering the saturated medium rather than collecting it in a pressure vessel, I don't know, but it's worth looking into rather than immediately dismissing it I think. I love outside of the box ideas.
@@skampp Sure, it's interesting to think about applying all the science we could throw at it, but it will need to vent **something** or it won't drive 100 yards if you rely on squeezing all exhaust into a vessel.
In the end it's not technologically unfeasible to scrub it though, but we need a cleaner supply, even if it's a hundred times more expensive.
Cody from Cody's Lab once came with a sun-based algae producing contraption that had pure (well, raw) oil as end-product. Molecular identical.
If we want longevity, that's the way to go. Make what you use, and don't overproduce. That will make more difference.
Supposedly there was an inventor who made something that "bubbled" the exhaust gases and returned them back up the exhaust pipe, it ran mainly on water with a small amount of oil to start it off and it was claimed to be 300% more efficient
Yes I wish to see tour old CO2 to urea video and converting it to carbon nitride
Thanks Rob. I'm in.
😮😢😂😅😊
I would love to see this taken further Robert. Or at least the testing of catalytic properties the Copper in Carbon Nitride. That will help consume the beautiful blue contents of a jar I have sitting around! Off to read the paper now.
me too mate - keep me in touch with what you get up to
Love to see you redo your old video on Urea but add converting human urine into urea.
DIC is not considered for fuel production. It is supposed to acquire the gigatons of pure carbon, the chemical industry is in dire need of.
To facilitate a fuel production on top of this, would require an epic upstep of production, from the already epic production goal🤗
But good to hear, that at least the first epic goal, may not cost us a fortune.
Could be awesome in the future.
At the moment though the photocurrent of silicon is 100x higher. So electrolysis of water and FT-synthesis to Methanol seems more direct.
That “game changer” is old and called a plant.
I run my car on vegetable oil and create CO2 and then the plant uses the CO2 and I take its oil.
Is it carbon negative?
Methanol fuel cells are already available in the market.
I wonder if collecting CO2 directly near the producer (e.g. city centre or industrial plant would give significantly better yields).
UNOT showing they do, rebels!
Not sure if this method is similar but I copper coated Woven Carbon Fiber Tape by doing electrolysis in a water/copper sulfate solution.
Please Update
Hmmm cant that catalyst be put on cars and power plants to reduce CO2 production. Use waste heat to drive the reaction or put uv lights in the catalyst chamber?
There are platinum catalyst for no2 and there are also titanium dioxide catalyst for pollution. Why not a car co2 catalyst.
Completely different topic has anyone tired building a pendulum to rotary generator thinking of building one but don't know if its that effective and efficient?
Let the plants use the CO2 and green the planet.
Wow.
Could be great so long as production can overcome the reduced energy density of methanol. Would be exactly the kind of thing that would get all the performance car geeks on board. Only reason they don't run methanol for daily driving is price and availability.
where does Urea fit in
making the graphitic carbon nitride from it. its an earlier video.
COOl!
All fair and good but currently there is only 0.3% of CO2 in our atmosphere and if we were to suck CO2 out of the atmosphere you should remember too that plants need CO2 and they die if there is less than 0.2 % CO2 .
So a very fine line before you either die of heat or starvation .
Rather not mess with something that we will regret later .
Plant more forest and convert the wood to fuel .
Best not mess with anything, like by adding a heap of a trace element into a system.
I'm no chemist but urea + cu = eureka sounds plausible XD
They pump greenhouses full of Co2.. plants love it. 🐰
yes which means plants can use alot more co2 than we have , which means that co2 wont be an issue to the climate until there is as much in the atmosphere as farmers pump into greenhouses ....... climate co2 hoax !!!!!"
Yeast carbonates beer and people love it, yet NOT ONE person promotes the reduction of beer consumption. 🤔
where did my comment go?
And we are in a CO2 drought. Plants would be MUCH happier with higher levels of C02 -- and that would mean much more food for animals (including humans). If we reduce the levels of CO2 plants, which are already struggling, will die -- taking the animal life with them. But the "climate change" zealots either cannot or will not understand that CO2 is plant food.
@@CCoburn3However plants don’t like too much heat. See many in hot deserts?
Tractor pulllers use Methanol, the shear torque!!
Can you mix Methanol and liquid Hydrogen??
It would solidify.
@@DavidPaulNewtonScott Oh right :/ well that ideas dissolved.
But is it efficient? We know 'fracking' methane requires lots of energy which would be more efficiently used to charge BEV's.
Better than hydrogen which is nuts however carbon would be much better and safer.
They already do this with zinc.
No matter how good this turns out to be, it will be stopped. The politicians and money people will see to it that we don't stop using petrol / diesel etc.
Why do you think that the alternative being pushed above all others is battery power? The reason is; when it is finally realized that EV's are not fit for purpose, hydrocarbon fuels will remain the only practical fuel for propulsion!
And they'll ban you from using it
Is this similar to how they powered spotlights at the 1933 World’s Fair?
Peace.
“Thus at 9:15pm on 27 May 1933, four telescopes located in different observatories captured light from Arcturus and focused it onto photoelectric cells. These cells then transformed the light into an electrical current that was amplified and sent to the Expo site on the shores of Lake Michigan. The current lit up the floodlights before a crowd of 30,000 people gathered outside the Hall of Science.”
The philosophers stone has joined the chat...
😂 so in the apocalypse, collect all the pee, get some copper, and fire up the engines! I love it. Probably more worth it in an apocalyptic scenario where oil based fuels just aren't so readily available.
I take it this means that my Pee Powered Car patent will finally increase in market value
Just attach it to the tailpipe.
I keep hearing that we need technology to eliminate CO2 from our atmosphere.
We have that technology already: Plants. Not to mention no CO2 = no plants.
Seems like an unachievable goal to have zero CO2 production.
No one wants to remove all the CO2. Just what we added. Don't panic plants existed and thrived at the pre industrial levels and will continue to of we can get back there. They'll also survive and possibly thrive if we don't but we might not.
Metal 3D printers use metal powders. Might have to fo look at that old Copper video.
Make methanol from methane , methane will heat the planet 80x faster than anything else.
Thankyou ripper video as always Rob
Looking forward to cheaper fuel cell technology.
No profit or control in making it cheaper.
Plants die car exhaust pipe smoke u can test it ur self in closed area
BBC Earth This car runs on liquid air - Trailblazers I think you will find this interesting
Be safe, be careful!! - industrial strength methanol can be inhaled, ingested or absorbed and will then cause blindness etc.
philosopher's stone?
The video looked like amplified sunlight. I'm unable to find figures for input watts-to-output liter. To be a true cirular system, energy input must be carbon-free. While methane is frowned upon, it is really the most practical and cheap fuel available, and once oxidized, the exhaust is 1 CO2 to 2 H2O, and methods already exist to convert methane into methanol, hydrogen, or even gasolene. Sunlight-to-methanol is great, but sunlight-to-methane-to electricity, with a fuel cell, might be even better.
Τι μας κάνει να πιστεύουμε ότι έχουμε φύγει από την εποχή του χαλκού;
Θα βρούμε μια άλλες εφαρμογές του...
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What part of the ozone layer is CO2, anyone know? Its 00.004% Look it up.
Give me the plans for peeing in a bottle and running my car from it?
Ad blue is basically piss.
I thought that what comes out of the back of a car is carbon-MONoxide (CO) not carbon DIoxide (CO2), which is plant food ?
Google it. The monoxide is what kills you quick if pump it into the car but a bunch of gases (including the dioxide) come out.
There's another guy, Casey Handmer, I've just seen recently with a new methane production system.
It uses solar arrays to power electrolysis for hydrogen production from water, and a direct air capture system to collect CO2 from the air.
The CO2 and Hydrogen are mixed in a flow through system under temperature and pressure to produces methane + H20.
It's here if you're interested: /watch?v=NngCHTImH1g
So I can put a bottle of pee with a copper wire in it in the sun for a while and then put it in my car? Good to know.
You can, but it'll just make your car smell funny. Try not to eat asparagus first.
You watch it! Next they'll say there's not enough co2 because we use it for power! Rofl....
I'm not worried about CO2 in the slightest. The earth can easily buffer it. People should be more concerned with helping the earth do it's job than stopping CO2 sources.
Yeah, who cares if there are alligators in the great lakes.
@@justtinkering6713 lol Alligators would never be interested in the Great lakes. Too funny how ignorant people can be.
Climate change won't destroy life on the planet, it's survived heaps of cataclysms. We however, won't survive if we keep going adding more greenhouse glasses to the atmosphere.
@@monsaka7827Why is there always some dumb troll attacking people?
@@fionahite170 I dunno. I like trolling other trolls and stupid people on occasion. 😁
If only Co2 was a problem.