Hi, thank you for this video. I'll echo what others have said about showing your mistakes being helpful. I have a summerhouse that had a leaking roof, initially I tried to use a repair system, involving using acrylic & fiber glass, rather than just doing it properly and it completely failed which really frustrated me given how long I took doing it and the fact I now needed to strip it all off and re-do it properly, so I, like you, lost heart. Watching this video, seeing someone else make a mistake and feeling the same way, then getting back on their feet and showing their mistake, gave me the motivation and inspiration to get back on my feet and get the job done properly, not to mention the clear and concise instructions to give me the know how to do it! It's all sorted now and a tidy job too thanks to your video. So to anyone thinking of using any other method than just re-felting it properly - don't! Watch this video instead and do it properly - it'll save you much time, effort & money! Thanks again, really appreciate the video!
What wonderful feedback my friend. Very much appreciated. Hope fully it will inspire others to be more resilient and improve their skills by gaining more experience and knowledge. Stay safe and well, Des
Thanks for showing up your mistake with the measuring. It was reassuring to see how to put it right, and that mistakes don't really matter, it's what you do about them that counts. Have now roofed a tiny shed and mended a wendy house, now off to reroof a 20 foot by 12 outbuilding, having watched you do it. Thanks again for video.
You are most welcome! The fact is that even the most experienced DIY'er makes mistakes (and I've made some really stupid ones) and I think it's important to declare it and be completely honest and open about it. I like to think that my vids will inspire and motivate people to have a go and it's important to acknowledge that mistakes are inevitable but can be rectified. Best wishes, Des
I think you did a fantastic job des I am DIY person like you and the best way to learn is when you little mistake looking good looking forward to the next video.
Just want to say thanks for making this video. I found it hugely informative and thanks to it I was willing and able to put felt on a sloped leaky shed roof. I had zero experience and never would have attempted it before, but you really covered everything required to get me from the hardware shop to having a beer and admiring my nice dry shed. Thank you!
Ive watched a lot of your vids, some really good hints and tips, and I must say, I always respect anybody who is willing to hold up their hands and say . . ."Hey, I foooofed up", no such things as perfect, we do the best we can, sometimes we are happy with the end result, and sometimes we make little mistakes, fair play to you sir! And by the way, your voice is deffo the Bob Ross of DIY, lol. 👍👍👍👍👍👍
Appreciate your honesty in this vid Des. I recently did some felt roofing and found CT1 sealant/adhesive to be brilliant stuff instead of the bituminous gunk. Applied with a gun rather than brush, it goes off quickly, grabs and seals really well and goes a long way (and can be used for other jobs). Not saying that to rub it in (don’t you just hate the “you should have-ers”?) just to let folk know there’s an alternative the casual DIY-er might find easier. Thanks for posting this helpful series.
Believe me Des, the fact that you show experienced DIYers making mistakes is actually helpful to new folks like me, and makes me more confident to have a go.
I hope so Marcus. There's so much BS on Y-T and it does not portray real life at all. If I can show folks what mistakes I make then hopefully they won't make the same ones. Best wishes my friend, Des
Thanks for the updates on your project Des, been thoroughly enjoying them. We're all human when it comes to slight mistakes, that's what learning is all about. Good work matey, keep it up and all the best :-)
Giving this a go for the first time myself tomorrow, I’m 24 and have very little DIY experience, been putting off getting a new roof done on my old shed for a while now but with the current circumstances I’ve decided to man up and have a go at it myself wish me luck :)
May the force be with you my friend. Just take your time, try not to put yourself under too much pressure. Make sure you have decent overlaps on the felt and cut slightly more than you think you need so you can trim back. Let me know how you get on my friend. Stay safe and well, Des
Ignore the comments from the 'professionals'. It's a great DIYer video. Not all of us have got a professional blow torch in our garages, but we do have old brushes / scrapers and a hammer. We'll done, I'm off to Wickes to re do my garage roof
This is brilliant! About the messy bit, I saw another video where they rubbed the faces of an offcut over the bitumen and the little stones stick to it
Brilliant honest video . planning to do my first flat roof on my 4X2 chicken coop. have a 10 mtr roll of polyester reinforced felt ( cost about 50£ ) . here is what i have done before doing the roof. done a paper cutout of the roof area and a strip of paper ( ofcourse with a small scale like 2cm = 1 mtr ) figured out the roll would not have been big enough with the overlaps and overhangs on the edges. so reduced the size of the chicken run to 2.75 mtr X 2 mtr and coop will be 1.5 mtr X 1 mtr . I will get a single joint and the top most 40 cm area of the roof.
Making a scaled down template is another really good way of doing this and a great idea for sure. Sounds like it worked out well for you and shows how a little thought and preparation can solve a lot of frustration. Thanks very much for sharing. I'm sure others will find it useful. Best wishes, Des
Hi again mate that looks ok still and we all make mistakes at least you have showed your mistakes and not just cut it out the video like i said we all make mistakes mate and we learn from them I'm enjoying watching your videos and I have subscribed aswell keep up the great work mate you are a very skilled man
Hiya Mick. Glad you've decided to move on mate. Just been to your channel and seen one of your vids sticking someone's tube of toothpaste down a toilet. Council worker? 😂😂😂
Nice video thanks, but I'm wondering if I can just copy your idea on my kitchen extension flat roof, it's not leaking yet, but does have holes in the sides over the ridges, it's got tar and stone chippings on it, have they stopped using blow torches and tar and chippings now?
Hi there buddy. First of all I'm not a professional roofer. However, in my opinion, athough it's not ideal you could simply put this on your kitchen roof just to get you by for a year or two for sure. However, it won't be any good long term. Alternatively, you could always buy rubber sheet instead which will be a much more durable alternative although much more expensive. If it's something you want to do yourself then you could try this. Just start researching roofing materials - you'll be surprised at the options available. Another alternative would be to consider buying a can of brush on bitumen repair for felt roofs. Some of the guarantees are 10-15yrs and you can actually brush on whilst it's wet. Yes, the torch on stuff is still available. The chippings are to protect against the elements, e.g. uv rays from the sun and to give extra longevity. ATB, Des
Have you done a cost comparison between OSB and feather edge for the walls? Forgeting the framework, was just wondering which is the cheapest method. 👍🇬🇧
Thanks for the video, compared to the other ones I've watched I'd say you went overboard, but it should definitely last. I've only got a small shed 6 ft x 3ft so will only have one overlap of felt, wasn't aware I'd need adhesive, is it essential, some other videos show them just nailing the top layer to the layer below?
If it's a really good overlap (e.g. 12" or so) and you've got a decent fall / slope on the roof I think you'd be fine without the adhesive. Adhesive does give the guarantee that no rain water will blow back underneath the felt but I personally think you'd be fine without it subject to above points. Hope this helps, Des
Hi, Thanks for the video I'm looking at different options to finish a shed roof. I'm just wondering why you didn't fold the corners under? it seems this way to make a sort of a cup to capture rain and funnel it toward the shed itself?
All looks good, we all makes silly little mistakes, its easy done, I do lots of jobs then afterwards think that would have worked better if only I had thought to do **** as long as the end result is a decent job that's the main thing :-)
This is very helpful Des. I have the same heavy duty Wickes roofing felt and similar roofing felt adhesive. Plus my roof is an angled flat roof also and I need to felt in the coming days. How far did the 5l tin go? I've got an 11mm OSB roof so will use 13mm clout nails for the roof and 20mm for the sides.
Hi there Darren and thanks for dropping by mate. The 5L can was just right for this job. In essence, it covered the following; 4 strips 100mm wide x 3600mm long (applied thickly) Hope this helps mate. Stay safe and well, Des
Have you got a part to for the edges? Quick question do you have to use nails with the adhesive? For example if I was just wanting to put a peace half on my roof and a half on neighbours could I just put adhesive on there side ?
Hi there. Definitely not. Wait until the chipboard has dried out as the edges will swell when damp and you'll get loads of gaps where the boards butt together. Best wishes, Des
I need to run one strip over a long joint of previous felt. I was going to do the same as you but was a bit concerned that using the tacks might introduce a leak path straight through.
Not at all. The felt will self seal. Nothing to worry about at all. Also, the manufacturers instructions on the felt advise you use tacks. Ultimately it's your choice but nowt to worry about. Best wishes, Des
Hiya Spider. I'm sure you could mate but that would be less effective, considerably more expensive and I can't see the point tbh. The felt is self-sealing and will close up around the nails - that's the nature of this bitumen type product and this using clout nails is the time proven method of fixing felt. A mechanical fixing like this will also be far more secure. That's the reason clout nails AND felt adhesive are both used on the overlaps. Don't risk it buddy - not worth it. ATB, Des
21st Century Caveman He’s got enough adhesive there to cover the whole roof and disregard the nails. I know from experience, I’ve had a garden shed for over 40 years once the wind gets under a nailed roof the whole lot goes. This never happens once it’s stuck I know from bitter experience trying to felt a roof in a storm
I was quoted £1.5k to repair a leaky roof in my garden "house" (more like a shed). It is quite large though at 6x6m, I am going to attempt doing as you described this week, thank you for this video! - also getting my stuff from wicks as they have free delivery while everyone else charges £30-40.
Sounds great! You'll save hundreds of pounds. Just take your time, think about what you're doing, use adhesive and clout nails (nowhere near as many as me though), decent overlaps, etc. Get the beers in and enjoy. Good luck, Des
Evening des...I was going to felt my garden room roof but I noticed the felt you used said for a pitched roof of 20% so not sure which felt to go for...any thoughts...? Had any problems with yours yet...? All the best... Justin
THINK THRICE, measure twice, cut once Don't forget the first step .... that is where most mistakes are made. Learned this at my Grandfather's knee 60 years ago .... and I still manage to cock up every now and then ;
Funny you should say that mate. I was wondering today whether I'd have enough left over to do just that. Cover up all those damn clout nails lol. Stay safe and well my friend. Des
Tried to fix a ripped part of my felt roof on my shed...there has been a huge bee hive under the shed for a few years and they went crazy as soon as i opened the tar/chemical water filler....any ideas on best way to either get rid of them or work around bees?
Hiya buddy. What a bummer mate. Please try and avoid harming them if possible. I would use smoke to make them drowsy like the bee keepers do. Perhaps you can work around them that way? Alternatively, look on YT to see if anyone has any good ideas. Best wishes and good luck, Des
bees are usually calmest early hours of the morning , alternatively you could ask a bee keeper to try and move them . depending on how easy they are to access it can be a tricky process if they are hard to reach .
I have a question for you, i have shingled small flat roof even i have done many roofing before, anyway leaks now, wrong thing to do, what can i do now to fix the problem with minimum co$t and time !?
Cheapest, quickest fix is probably a thick tarp or plastic sheet covering entire area and secured appropriately. Will need a good UV resistance though to resist deterioration under the sun. That's what I would do. Hope this helps, Des
Looks like you used an Uzi Nailgun, lol. You should always put any mistakes into a vid, or no one will learn anything, like how to put things right. I dislike roofing felt, I feel it would last longer if it had a hessian core to it. It can be quite brittle if put on in winter ( use a hot air gun to warm up the folds ), as I have learnt to my cost. Is it time to put the kettle in now???
Hi there Ade. Hope you and your family are well mate. I think it's fair to say I was over zealous with the nails lol. Still, at least there's no chance of Screwfix calling in the administrators with all the hardware I've bought frm them recently. Have a great weekend mate, Des
How is this holding up years later? I am going to do my roof its 5mx5m with a less that 20% pitch would one layer of felt be enough or multiple underneath.Cheers
Hi there. The roof is doing great thank you. No issues whatsoever (touch wood!). Due to the slight pitch I think I would consider using a rubber membrane instead. Check the comments section. I seem to recall someone else mentioning this. I'm sure you can get them without having to use a torch to fit these. Even with a greater pitch you do still tend to get a little moss build up. Yu could try a couple of layers but then the cost starts to rise and I think you should consider another alternative like a rubber membrane instead. That's defo what I would do. Hope this helps my friend. Sounds like an excellent size build. I'm very jealous. Wish you the very best with your project. ATB, Des
If the adhesive squelches out a bit I’d say that’s quite a good thing if, like me, you are bothered by birds pecking at and ripping up the edge of the felt.
The backing of the felt is a bitumen type product which self seals around the shaft of the nails. Completely waterproof buddy. People have need using this method for decades and it is the one recommended by the manufacturers. Fear not my friend, Des
Hi there and thanks for watching. You're missing the point big time. It's actually a bitumen adhesive used for sticking the felt down. It doesn't matter how waterproof the felt is if it doesn't stay on the roof my friend. ATB, Des
Hi there. I wouldn't say there;'s and ideal angle as such, just one that leaves you in no doubt that the water is going to drain off. I've seen so many flat roofs with magnificent swimming pools in the middle just collecting gallons upon gallons of water which have been installed by 'professionals'. Obviously it's just sitting there for weeks and months on end waiting for the sun to evaporate it and simply causing quicker deterioration of the roofing materiala. ATB, Des
In the vid i state that they are 20mm. However, you will need something shorter than this as your roof boards are thinner than mine. Hope this helps, Des
This is this is similar to my shed but it’s been there a while I believe, it’s about 5.5m by 3.5m but and I’m scared if I walk on the top I’ll go through it :/ any suggestions?
Hi there. You could always put a stiff board underneath your feet to spread your weight or something like a ladder across the shortest span with a board on top? You can also try and suss it our by pushing the rafters from below to see how much they give? It might also be an idea to clear anything from the shed which could cause injury if you should fall through. Best of luck buddy. Des
Done a good job until I saw the roof bit,,dont nails put holes into wood so potential leaks and there was many nails. Have seen the roofs been built before nails were only used on the finishing tucked under ends on the overlaps ?
Hi there. The felt is self healing so it closes around the nails to keep water out. It's a time proven method which has been done zillions of times and also what the felt manufacturers recommend. Yup, there were far too many nails. Can't argue with that. However, absolutely no water ingress whatsoever buddy. Best, Des
@@21stcenturycaveman33 Cool I have a garage roof thats got box profile tin on it and it looks like the water is running back under the tin at the gutter end so I was thinking of taking the tin off and doing a felt roof
@@maryellis3661 Mary, before you go to all this trouble, have you considered whether some external expanding foam might block any gaps where water is getting in? Just a thought. Des
Hi there. Because it's not necessary and the felt is made of a bitumen mixture anyway. The felt is sufficient protection. However, there's nothing to stop someone doing this if they wanted to I suppose. ATB, Des
@@21stcenturycaveman33 I found your videos informative & made me aware of the possible snags I may encounter certainly gave me some ideas of how to build a shed from the ground up. 👍
Whenever my dad felted a roof he'd put a layer of felt down first, similar to yours, but nowhere near as many clout nails, then the second thicker felt would be applied to the base layer using a torch to heat the tar and adhere it. He wouldn't tack it down in anyway as this would defeat the object and puncture the surface. Surely there's a chance water will eventually penetrate where the nails go through. 😕
Hiya buddy. Yes, far too many clout nails. Guilty as charged m'lud. However. the felt is self-sealing and designed to be fitted using clout nails. Plus, where it's been poverlapped there are obviously 2 layers of felt. It'll be fine mate. ATB, Des
Personally i wouldn't leave exposed nails on the weather/water exposed side. With the time water will leak through them directly into the wood. I would have use glue only and if needed nail only under the edges facing down.
What a bummer! I bet neither of us will make that mistake again mate? It's called being human buddy. I hope everything turned out OK my friend. ATB, Des
Adhesive will do the job all those nails water will find a way through my shed needs re -felting without all the nails which the guys did who erected shed
Why glue the roof felt down and clout nail it too?? You only need decent glue without the need for nailing. All felt roofs I've done I never bail on the top only on the sides and I always use roof gutter seal on the roof to glue the felt down. If you nail it as well it looks unsightly from above.
Hi and thanks for your comments. I simply followed the manufacturers instructions. Surely they know best as they actually made and tested the product?? Plus, realistically how many people are actually going to be looking down on a shed roof? Sorry but this seems very pedantic. Also, you use a roof gutter seal rather than a dedicated felt adhesive as recommended by the felt manufacturers? Obviously, its up to you what you do and if it works for you thats great. There are clearly several ways of doing the same job. ATB, Des
Great job. Has given me the confidence To have a go on my replacing the felt on my own flat roof, Without going to blow torch route. Cheers
Glad I could help. ATB, Des
Hi, thank you for this video.
I'll echo what others have said about showing your mistakes being helpful. I have a summerhouse that had a leaking roof, initially I tried to use a repair system, involving using acrylic & fiber glass, rather than just doing it properly and it completely failed which really frustrated me given how long I took doing it and the fact I now needed to strip it all off and re-do it properly, so I, like you, lost heart. Watching this video, seeing someone else make a mistake and feeling the same way, then getting back on their feet and showing their mistake, gave me the motivation and inspiration to get back on my feet and get the job done properly, not to mention the clear and concise instructions to give me the know how to do it! It's all sorted now and a tidy job too thanks to your video.
So to anyone thinking of using any other method than just re-felting it properly - don't! Watch this video instead and do it properly - it'll save you much time, effort & money!
Thanks again, really appreciate the video!
What wonderful feedback my friend. Very much appreciated. Hope fully it will inspire others to be more resilient and improve their skills by gaining more experience and knowledge. Stay safe and well, Des
Everyday is a school day! Chin up and on you go....takes nothing away from the quality of the project and effort put in.....you should be very proud 👍
You're very charitable! Lol. Thanksfor your kind support. ATB, Des
Thanks for sharing this journey. I'm going to be felting my flat-roofed shed today so this was really helpful!
You are most welcome! ATB, Des
Thank you for being honest and open - really appreciate your video. Many thanks.
My pleasure! ATB, Des
Nothing less than fantastic, you are very skilled to build that. From Colorado.
Wow, thank you for your very generous words. Thanks, Des
Thanks for showing up your mistake with the measuring. It was reassuring to see how to put it right, and that mistakes don't really matter, it's what you do about them that counts. Have now roofed a tiny shed and mended a wendy house, now off to reroof a 20 foot by 12 outbuilding, having watched you do it. Thanks again for video.
You are most welcome! The fact is that even the most experienced DIY'er makes mistakes (and I've made some really stupid ones) and I think it's important to declare it and be completely honest and open about it. I like to think that my vids will inspire and motivate people to have a go and it's important to acknowledge that mistakes are inevitable but can be rectified. Best wishes, Des
I think you did a fantastic job des I am DIY person like you and the best way to learn is when you little mistake looking good looking forward to the next video.
Thank you my friend. Always good to hear from you. ATB, Des
Just want to say thanks for making this video. I found it hugely informative and thanks to it I was willing and able to put felt on a sloped leaky shed roof.
I had zero experience and never would have attempted it before, but you really covered everything required to get me from the hardware shop to having a beer and admiring my nice dry shed. Thank you!
What wonderful feedback. You're very welcome! Best wishes, Des
Ive watched a lot of your vids, some really good hints and tips, and I must say, I always respect anybody who is willing to hold up their hands and say . . ."Hey, I foooofed up", no such things as perfect, we do the best we can, sometimes we are happy with the end result, and sometimes we make little mistakes, fair play to you sir! And by the way, your voice is deffo the Bob Ross of DIY, lol. 👍👍👍👍👍👍
Appreciate your honesty in this vid Des. I recently did some felt roofing and found CT1 sealant/adhesive to be brilliant stuff instead of the bituminous gunk. Applied with a gun rather than brush, it goes off quickly, grabs and seals really well and goes a long way (and can be used for other jobs). Not saying that to rub it in (don’t you just hate the “you should have-ers”?) just to let folk know there’s an alternative the casual DIY-er might find easier. Thanks for posting this helpful series.
Well, that's interesting to know. I'll check it out for future reference. Thanks for the heads up. Appreciated. Des
This is one of the funniest CZcams videos I’ve seen 😃😃 had to have a cup of tea to calm down 😃😃😃
Glad you enjoyed it. Des
What a idiot...have some respect
Believe me Des, the fact that you show experienced DIYers making mistakes is actually helpful to new folks like me, and makes me more confident to have a go.
I hope so Marcus. There's so much BS on Y-T and it does not portray real life at all. If I can show folks what mistakes I make then hopefully they won't make the same ones. Best wishes my friend, Des
Good video. It will help me organise my project and to learn from some of the mistakes made here. Thank you
You are welcome!Best wishes, Des
mate well done and at that height. beer well deserved you cracked me up when it started going side ways with short cut. nice patch job
Glad you enjoyed it buddy. ATB, Des
Looks good , its important to know how to overcome mistakes and turn out a great job ....thanks
Thanks for watching! ATB, Des
Thanks for showing that, so important for the rest of us to see that 1 it happens and 2 how to get around it.
Thanks. Hope it helps. Des
Thanks for the updates on your project Des, been thoroughly enjoying them. We're all human when it comes to slight mistakes, that's what learning is all about. Good work matey, keep it up and all the best :-)
I really appreciate you watching and for your kind words. ATB, Des
Making mistakes is a good thing, shows you what to do. Im goinf to tackle my shed soon, thanks!
Agee entirely Shelly. Good luck and best wishes, Des
Giving this a go for the first time myself tomorrow, I’m 24 and have very little DIY experience, been putting off getting a new roof done on my old shed for a while now but with the current circumstances I’ve decided to man up and have a go at it myself wish me luck :)
May the force be with you my friend. Just take your time, try not to put yourself under too much pressure. Make sure you have decent overlaps on the felt and cut slightly more than you think you need so you can trim back. Let me know how you get on my friend. Stay safe and well, Des
Ignore the comments from the 'professionals'. It's a great DIYer video. Not all of us have got a professional blow torch in our garages, but we do have old brushes / scrapers and a hammer. We'll done, I'm off to Wickes to re do my garage roof
I wish you every success in your project my friend. Best wishes, Des
This is brilliant! About the messy bit, I saw another video where they rubbed the faces of an offcut over the bitumen and the little stones stick to it
What a brilliant idea. Thanks for that. Des
Well done, and thanks for showing us the slight errors as well. Turned out ok in the end though
Thanks Eddie. ATB mate, Des
At 10:40, I'm a plumber and my motto is, "measure 3 times, check twice, cut once" 😅 good job tho look forward to the end product!
Thanks very much for tuning in. Best wishes, Des
Thank you sir. I'm doing my flat shed roof tomorrow and wednesday weather permitting.
Hiya buddy. I hope your project went well my friend. Best wishes, Des
Brilliant honest video .
planning to do my first flat roof on my 4X2 chicken coop. have a 10 mtr roll of polyester reinforced felt ( cost about 50£ ) . here is what i have done before doing the roof. done a paper cutout of the roof area and a strip of paper ( ofcourse with a small scale like 2cm = 1 mtr ) figured out the roll would not have been big enough with the overlaps and overhangs on the edges. so reduced the size of the chicken run to 2.75 mtr X 2 mtr and coop will be 1.5 mtr X 1 mtr . I will get a single joint and the top most 40 cm area of the roof.
Making a scaled down template is another really good way of doing this and a great idea for sure. Sounds like it worked out well for you and shows how a little thought and preparation can solve a lot of frustration. Thanks very much for sharing. I'm sure others will find it useful. Best wishes, Des
Tidy job!! Nice one.
Thank you! Cheers!
Like it because so honest and truthful
Thank you. No BS on this channel. Des
Now that is a serious amount of nails! That felt isn't going anywhere
Hurricane proof for sure! Lol. Take care, Des
Nice job 👌👍
Thank you! Cheers! Des
Love the mistakes ..a real man makes mistakes ...great original vid i . i will subscribe , and thumbs up for vid.
Thanks very much for your kind support. Best wishes, Des
Good to see mistakes as it makes us feel better when we make them.
Missing footage... intrigue. Love it
Lol. Suspense or what ......? Best wishes, Des
Hi again mate that looks ok still and we all make mistakes at least you have showed your mistakes and not just cut it out the video like i said we all make mistakes mate and we learn from them I'm enjoying watching your videos and I have subscribed aswell keep up the great work mate you are a very skilled man
I really appreciate your kind words of support and for subscribing. Thank you so much. ATB, Des
Your more than welcome des
You did your best...Thank you for showing your mistake....we all make them.
You bet! Stay safe and well, Des
Hahah came on here for tips how to felt a shed roof. Think I'll watch another video 😂😂😂😂
Hiya Mick. Glad you've decided to move on mate. Just been to your channel and seen one of your vids sticking someone's tube of toothpaste down a toilet. Council worker? 😂😂😂
@@21stcenturycaveman33 hahah that was a long time ago
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Just finished my felting on the shed. Your vid did help thanks
Lol. No worries matey. Still won't be asking you to decorate my bathroom though ;?)
Nice video thanks, but I'm wondering if I can just copy your idea on my kitchen extension flat roof, it's not leaking yet, but does have holes in the sides over the ridges, it's got tar and stone chippings on it, have they stopped using blow torches and tar and chippings now?
Hi there buddy. First of all I'm not a professional roofer. However, in my opinion, athough it's not ideal you could simply put this on your kitchen roof just to get you by for a year or two for sure. However, it won't be any good long term. Alternatively, you could always buy rubber sheet instead which will be a much more durable alternative although much more expensive. If it's something you want to do yourself then you could try this. Just start researching roofing materials - you'll be surprised at the options available. Another alternative would be to consider buying a can of brush on bitumen repair for felt roofs. Some of the guarantees are 10-15yrs and you can actually brush on whilst it's wet. Yes, the torch on stuff is still available. The chippings are to protect against the elements, e.g. uv rays from the sun and to give extra longevity. ATB, Des
Have you done a cost comparison between OSB and feather edge for the walls? Forgeting the framework, was just wondering which is the cheapest method. 👍🇬🇧
I'm planning same job thanks for some great advice 👍
Cheers mate. My project is now complete and it's turned out great (and completely watertight!). ATB, Des
Thanks for the video, compared to the other ones I've watched I'd say you went overboard, but it should definitely last. I've only got a small shed 6 ft x 3ft so will only have one overlap of felt, wasn't aware I'd need adhesive, is it essential, some other videos show them just nailing the top layer to the layer below?
If it's a really good overlap (e.g. 12" or so) and you've got a decent fall / slope on the roof I think you'd be fine without the adhesive. Adhesive does give the guarantee that no rain water will blow back underneath the felt but I personally think you'd be fine without it subject to above points. Hope this helps, Des
Hi, Thanks for the video
I'm looking at different options to finish a shed roof. I'm just wondering why you didn't fold the corners under? it seems this way to make a sort of a cup to capture rain and funnel it toward the shed itself?
Hi there and thanks for watching. I'm sorry but not sure what you mean? Best wishes, Des
All looks good, we all makes silly little mistakes, its easy done, I do lots of jobs then afterwards think that would have worked better if only I had thought to do **** as long as the end result is a decent job that's the main thing :-)
Thanks G. Words of wisdom indeed mate. ATB, Des
This is very helpful Des. I have the same heavy duty Wickes roofing felt and similar roofing felt adhesive. Plus my roof is an angled flat roof also and I need to felt in the coming days. How far did the 5l tin go? I've got an 11mm OSB roof so will use 13mm clout nails for the roof and 20mm for the sides.
Hi there Darren and thanks for dropping by mate. The 5L can was just right for this job. In essence, it covered the following;
4 strips 100mm wide x 3600mm long (applied thickly)
Hope this helps mate. Stay safe and well, Des
Use EPDM, lasts for fifety years. Felt lasts for three years, never ever use felt !!!
Wow you wanted to use all your nails haha is it a sound idea to puncture that felt so much!?!
@frankklein4872 crap...my loft conversion was felted 20 years ago and still ok
Have you got a part to for the edges? Quick question do you have to use nails with the adhesive? For example if I was just wanting to put a peace half on my roof and a half on neighbours could I just put adhesive on there side ?
Hi there. To ensure the felt stays put you need the adhesive AND clout nails. ATB, DEs
Thank you 👍🏻
Brilliant, thanks for this - it has given me the confidence to do it for myself.
Is it OK to do this when the chipboard is wet though? Thanks again.
Hi there. Definitely not. Wait until the chipboard has dried out as the edges will swell when damp and you'll get loads of gaps where the boards butt together. Best wishes, Des
@@21stcenturycaveman33 Cheers. I'll take your advice.
Nice job lad
Thanks very much indeed. Appreciated. Des
I need to run one strip over a long joint of previous felt. I was going to do the same as you but was a bit concerned that using the tacks might introduce a leak path straight through.
Not at all. The felt will self seal. Nothing to worry about at all. Also, the manufacturers instructions on the felt advise you use tacks. Ultimately it's your choice but nowt to worry about. Best wishes, Des
An honest video will help more people than not. Good effort. Hope you get the 15 years out of it
Thank you. Fingers crossed mate. Des
Good informative video. Needed a good video to help me do mine. However like you said, maybe use much less tacks!
Absolutely. Thanks for watching! Des
Would it be poss to use evostik or adhesive for EDPM roofs all over instead of clout nails to avoid puncturing the felt?
Hiya Spider. I'm sure you could mate but that would be less effective, considerably more expensive and I can't see the point tbh. The felt is self-sealing and will close up around the nails - that's the nature of this bitumen type product and this using clout nails is the time proven method of fixing felt. A mechanical fixing like this will also be far more secure. That's the reason clout nails AND felt adhesive are both used on the overlaps. Don't risk it buddy - not worth it. ATB, Des
21st Century Caveman
He’s got enough adhesive there to cover the whole roof and disregard the nails. I know from experience, I’ve had a garden shed for over 40 years once the wind gets under a nailed roof the whole lot goes. This never happens once it’s stuck I know from bitter experience trying to felt a roof in a storm
I was quoted £1.5k to repair a leaky roof in my garden "house" (more like a shed). It is quite large though at 6x6m, I am going to attempt doing as you described this week, thank you for this video! - also getting my stuff from wicks as they have free delivery while everyone else charges £30-40.
Sounds great! You'll save hundreds of pounds. Just take your time, think about what you're doing, use adhesive and clout nails (nowhere near as many as me though), decent overlaps, etc. Get the beers in and enjoy. Good luck, Des
You get what you pay for don’t get shit felt from wicks
Evening des...I was going to felt my garden room roof but I noticed the felt you used said for a pitched roof of 20% so not sure which felt to go for...any thoughts...? Had any problems with yours yet...?
All the best...
Justin
No probs at all Justin. Absolutely watertight mate. ATB, Des
Question:as the water runs down will it not leak threw the nail holes?
Nope, it won't. The felt is self sealing and will close around the nails. No worries there my friend. Stay safe and well, Des
THINK THRICE, measure twice, cut once Don't forget the first step .... that is where most mistakes are made. Learned this at my Grandfather's knee 60 years ago .... and I still manage to cock up every now and then ;
Hi mate look really good. I would put a facer board along the edge.?
Funny you should say that mate. I was wondering today whether I'd have enough left over to do just that. Cover up all those damn clout nails lol. Stay safe and well my friend. Des
Roof looks good, far exceeds building code in canada. but dont you guys have shingles in UK ? ive never seen such a roofing material
Hi there. Yes we do have shingles made of bitumen and other materials. Best wishes, Des
Generally we use torch on felt which is like this but will actually last 😂
Tried to fix a ripped part of my felt roof on my shed...there has been a huge bee hive under the shed for a few years and they went crazy as soon as i opened the tar/chemical water filler....any ideas on best way to either get rid of them or work around bees?
Hiya buddy. What a bummer mate. Please try and avoid harming them if possible. I would use smoke to make them drowsy like the bee keepers do. Perhaps you can work around them that way? Alternatively, look on YT to see if anyone has any good ideas. Best wishes and good luck, Des
bees are usually calmest early hours of the morning , alternatively you could ask a bee keeper to try and move them . depending on how easy they are to access it can be a tricky process if they are hard to reach .
I have a question for you, i have shingled small flat roof even i have done many roofing before, anyway leaks now, wrong thing to do, what can i do now to fix the problem with minimum co$t and time !?
Cheapest, quickest fix is probably a thick tarp or plastic sheet covering entire area and secured appropriately. Will need a good UV resistance though to resist deterioration under the sun. That's what I would do. Hope this helps, Des
Looks like you used an Uzi Nailgun, lol. You should always put any mistakes into a vid, or no one will learn anything, like how to put things right. I dislike roofing felt, I feel it would last longer if it had a hessian core to it. It can be quite brittle if put on in winter ( use a hot air gun to warm up the folds ), as I have learnt to my cost. Is it time to put the kettle in now???
Hi there Ade. Hope you and your family are well mate. I think it's fair to say I was over zealous with the nails lol. Still, at least there's no chance of Screwfix calling in the administrators with all the hardware I've bought frm them recently. Have a great weekend mate, Des
Hi mate is it essential to use an adhesive when felting a roof
Absolutely!
How is this holding up years later? I am going to do my roof its 5mx5m with a less that 20% pitch would one layer of felt be enough or multiple underneath.Cheers
Hi there. The roof is doing great thank you. No issues whatsoever (touch wood!). Due to the slight pitch I think I would consider using a rubber membrane instead. Check the comments section. I seem to recall someone else mentioning this. I'm sure you can get them without having to use a torch to fit these. Even with a greater pitch you do still tend to get a little moss build up. Yu could try a couple of layers but then the cost starts to rise and I think you should consider another alternative like a rubber membrane instead. That's defo what I would do. Hope this helps my friend. Sounds like an excellent size build. I'm very jealous. Wish you the very best with your project. ATB, Des
@@21stcenturycaveman33 Thanks for the reply Des, fair play
If the adhesive squelches out a bit I’d say that’s quite a good thing if, like me, you are bothered by birds pecking at and ripping up the edge of the felt.
why doesn't it leak through the nails that you've put across the join or overlap on the top of the roof ??
The backing of the felt is a bitumen type product which self seals around the shaft of the nails. Completely waterproof buddy. People have need using this method for decades and it is the one recommended by the manufacturers. Fear not my friend, Des
Measure twice. Cut once. And you don't actually need to slather that bitumen all over the place. The roofing felt is waterproof!
Hi there and thanks for watching. You're missing the point big time. It's actually a bitumen adhesive used for sticking the felt down. It doesn't matter how waterproof the felt is if it doesn't stay on the roof my friend. ATB, Des
Can,t tell if you have treated that felt like over layed tiles .but seemed heat gun down felt is a better product .
What is the ideal angle from front to back to have the right drainage into the gutter?
Hi there. I wouldn't say there;'s and ideal angle as such, just one that leaves you in no doubt that the water is going to drain off. I've seen so many flat roofs with magnificent swimming pools in the middle just collecting gallons upon gallons of water which have been installed by 'professionals'. Obviously it's just sitting there for weeks and months on end waiting for the sun to evaporate it and simply causing quicker deterioration of the roofing materiala. ATB, Des
Thanks!! how long of the nail ? my roof thickness is 12mm
In the vid i state that they are 20mm. However, you will need something shorter than this as your roof boards are thinner than mine. Hope this helps, Des
Im blind. Looks great.
Ha, ha. Thanks for watching buddy. ATB, Des
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This is this is similar to my shed but it’s been there a while I believe, it’s about 5.5m by 3.5m but and I’m scared if I walk on the top I’ll go through it :/ any suggestions?
Hi there. You could always put a stiff board underneath your feet to spread your weight or something like a ladder across the shortest span with a board on top? You can also try and suss it our by pushing the rafters from below to see how much they give? It might also be an idea to clear anything from the shed which could cause injury if you should fall through. Best of luck buddy. Des
Where the adhesive has spilt out I saw someone "rub" together two pieces of felt above it and it covered it up.
So you're the reason for the national shortage of clout pins?!! Only pulling your leg mate! Great video !!
Guilty as charged and no mitigating circumstances ;?)
Best wishes, des
How is this roof holding up after all this time?
Absolutely 100% spot on. Solid, watertight, secure. Delighted with it. My only regret is not making it bigger to be honest. Enjoy your weekend. Des
Comedy gold, thanks 😂
Good honest video complete with mistakes 😟
Thank you. Slick editing won't benefit anyone. ATB, Des
Done a good job until I saw the roof bit,,dont nails put holes into wood so potential leaks and there was many nails. Have seen the roofs been built before nails were only used on the finishing tucked under ends on the overlaps ?
Hi there. The felt is self healing so it closes around the nails to keep water out. It's a time proven method which has been done zillions of times and also what the felt manufacturers recommend. Yup, there were far too many nails. Can't argue with that. However, absolutely no water ingress whatsoever buddy. Best, Des
Good effort but That will fail and leak in the future, should've used a single ply membrane like firestone epdm or even a torch on system
Hiya buddy. All roofing membrane will eventually leak and hopefully I'll get a few years out of it yet. Stay safe, Des
@@21stcenturycaveman33 im a roofer to trade and can guarantee you any membrane I fit will last minimum 20 years
No it wont, get at least 10 years out of it
Osb 18mm ?
Yes it is. ATB, Des
does the felt its self not need to be stuck down ?
No it doesn't. Just the edges and nail the perimeter using the clout nails as I have done. Best wishes, Des
@@21stcenturycaveman33 Cool I have a garage roof thats got box profile tin on it and it looks like the water is running back under the tin at the gutter end so I was thinking of taking the tin off and doing a felt roof
@@maryellis3661 Mary, before you go to all this trouble, have you considered whether some external expanding foam might block any gaps where water is getting in? Just a thought. Des
@@21stcenturycaveman33 thats been done its still getting in up under the ends of the sheets
Why didn’t you fully cover the usb with bitumen to give extra layer of weatherproofing as well as sticking down mineral felt ?
Hi there. Because it's not necessary and the felt is made of a bitumen mixture anyway. The felt is sufficient protection. However, there's nothing to stop someone doing this if they wanted to I suppose. ATB, Des
@@21stcenturycaveman33 I found your videos informative & made me aware of the possible snags I may encounter certainly gave me some ideas of how to build a shed from the ground up. 👍
Everybody makes mistakes it's not the end of the world
True! Main thing is to !earn from mistakes, brush yourself down and keep going. Take care, Des
god you merked it with nails but atleast you know it wont be buggering off anytime soon
Yep, it's there until someone attacks ot with a crowbar. ATB, Des
@@21stcenturycaveman33 love it and your work
Can you come and do mine you done a great job Tx
Thank you Tina. ATB, Des
Measure twice cut once. It's easy to assume you are experienced.
Very true that. ATB, Des
That felt used to be 10m and double the thickness and £18 a roll now £34. such piss poor quality from all the uk stores.
Whenever my dad felted a roof he'd put a layer of felt down first, similar to yours, but nowhere near as many clout nails, then the second thicker felt would be applied to the base layer using a torch to heat the tar and adhere it. He wouldn't tack it down in anyway as this would defeat the object and puncture the surface. Surely there's a chance water will eventually penetrate where the nails go through. 😕
Hiya buddy. Yes, far too many clout nails. Guilty as charged m'lud. However. the felt is self-sealing and designed to be fitted using clout nails. Plus, where it's been poverlapped there are obviously 2 layers of felt. It'll be fine mate. ATB, Des
21st Century Caveman I'm sure it'll be fine. I really enjoyed watching your video.
over done with the clout nails i would have used s wooden are plastic trim to hold your sheets in place
They cave ?
Nope. Solid as a rock matey and completely water tight. ATB, Des
Save your crumbs from the felt rolls, then sprinkle those crumbs on the ooze out spots after removing the excess.
Good idea that Chris. ATB, Des
Er, have you thought about taking up knitting?
That would make a good yarn wouldn't it? Thanks for watching, ATB, Des
Personally i wouldn't leave exposed nails on the weather/water exposed side. With the time water will leak through them directly into the wood. I would have use glue only and if needed nail only under the edges facing down.
It's a mess!
C'mon, throw me a bone. It ain't that bad buddy. ATB, Des
Seems a little over kill with the nails....
I shit you not I made exactly the same mistake today 😡🙄
What a bummer! I bet neither of us will make that mistake again mate? It's called being human buddy. I hope everything turned out OK my friend. ATB, Des
Adhesive will do the job all those nails water will find a way through my shed needs re -felting without all the nails which the guys did who erected shed
If you use only adhesive it cant move and could crack,
Why glue the roof felt down and clout nail it too?? You only need decent glue without the need for nailing. All felt roofs I've done I never bail on the top only on the sides and I always use roof gutter seal on the roof to glue the felt down. If you nail it as well it looks unsightly from above.
Hi and thanks for your comments. I simply followed the manufacturers instructions. Surely they know best as they actually made and tested the product?? Plus, realistically how many people are actually going to be looking down on a shed roof? Sorry but this seems very pedantic. Also, you use a roof gutter seal rather than a dedicated felt adhesive as recommended by the felt manufacturers? Obviously, its up to you what you do and if it works for you thats great. There are clearly several ways of doing the same job. ATB, Des
What a mess
That’s looked a shocking job I have to say
She shed lol how about lady lair.
Sounds too daunting. Des lol
Try holding the hammer correctly
20 minute video to put a roof felt on.