One Trick To Master Counter Steering On A Motorcycle
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- čas přidán 13. 08. 2022
- Counter steering is a must know if you ride a motorcycle. In this video I talk about an example to help you understand how counter steering works and then demonstrate some exercises to practice in a parking lot.
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After reading some of the comments, it looks like a couple of things should have been made clear. Regardless if you understand it or not, counter steering is not optional. Its not some technique you have to learn to go fast. When you turn a motorcycle, you always counter steer. Most people don't realize they're doing it, and it becomes a safety concern. If something isn't going right and the rider panics, they end up turning right into what they're trying to avoid.
The only time you don't counter steer is when you are going very slow. You turn the handlebars in the direction you want to go. As you build speed, you get to a point where friction will force you to counter steer. I don't think he mentions this in the video.
thats cuz its not counter steering.. push right go right push left go left lol.. they explain it as counter steering because your left hand pulls left as you go right .. thats because your right hand pushes right to go right.. the term is so dumb
@@lewisbb04 You're actually just tilting the bike. ie. you push on the left handlebar, the bike will tilt to the left and, as a result, turn left
@@lewisbb04i think its called that because if you want to go right. Push right which makes the wheel go LEFT while the bike leans to the RIGHT.
It’s called countersteering because to initiate the lean you turn the front wheel the opposite direction of your desired direction. Because of gyroscopic procession, once the rider has chosen his appropriate lean angle the wheel turns into the turn on its own. The bike is self balancing the entire time. When you push the bar left, the bike falls to the left until you stop pushing the bar, the bike knows in order to stay upright it must balance it self by countering what you did to get it to lean & turns the wheel in the direction of travel to stay upright & not completely fall to the ground. Every input to the handle bars upsets the balance of the bike & it corrects it self. This is why it’s so imperative to keep light on your bars & not put unnecessary pressure on them. If you hear a biker talk about pain in their wrist, they ride in the “push up” position & that is not good for any type of riding…
I just came back from my very first 3 hours on a course, and i gotta say, when the instructor told us to come at him with 50km/h, lift our left hand up in the air and push the handle bar forward with the right hand, i sorta shat myself thinking about it. It was such a scary thought, because with how the inertia law works here, you don't really understand what Counter Steering is until you try it out on the bike itself. It just doesn't click right in the brain. I for one thought that i'd push the handle bar, the wheel would get twisted and i'd fly off and break my neck. It was a real weird feeling when the bike just started going off to the right on it's own lol.
I'm a new rider and this was very helpful. I've heard of counter-steering but didn't understand it until now. It's a really weird thing to comprehend but watching you, it seems to make sense...although on the surface it seems counter-intuitive actually. Thanks!
Actually you learned this as a kid learning to ride a pedal bike. Do not make so much theory out of it, just get mounted and start practising.
I think what gets people is the name '"counter steerin" makes it sound more difficult than it really is.
Exactly ^^ it make it sound like some rocket science while it's pretty simple
Push left grip forward - turn left. When the angle of desired lean is achieved maintain a neutral pressure on the grip (push no more and don’t ease off) for the duration of the bend. Bend taken, ease the pressure off, bike will stand up and carry on ahead. Same for right. Nothing complicated here.
Yes
@@softailfun you are not leaning the bike, you are STEERING it by pushing the grips
what matters is where your bike is tracking its path in your lane, if you need to TURN harder push harder
@@kenwittlief255
Well I’m so pleased we agree. Why are you directing this comment at me? If you ain’t leaning, you sure ain’t steering.
You’re the first person to make this make sense for me. Oh my god THANK YOU.
Thanks Andrew, in line with many other previous comments, this is a very helpful tutorial. Thanks for taking the time to produce this.🙏
I have spent hours looking for videos on this subject and this is by far the only one people should watch. Thank you for posting.
ive been lookng on tons of videos about counter stearing and yours gave me that click to really understand how to start practicing ; great man you rock!!
The lifting of the bike in the begining did it for me, thanks
He returns 🙏🏼
Thank you for making this easy to understand!
Thank you so much for this brilliant video - I FINALLY got the hang of this now!! ❤❤❤
It is so useful! I watched a lot of videos and i could not understand anything but then i found this one and i can finally understand what counter steering is
I can't believe it! Thanks, Andrew for this great video. I didn't get it on Learner's course. And although MotoJitsu has a great video with slow mo to show what havens to bike lean when you countersteer, I still didn't fully get it or feel comfortable doing it, thinking bike would tip. After your video, I went straight out and tried. I have made a huge leap forward Thals to you!!.
So helpful! Thanks a bunch
most helpful video I've watched thank you
This is more clear explanation I've watched. thanks!
Happy to help
Great stuff! Never stop learning, never stop practicing! Now you made me wanna go outside and ride. Haha
Happy to help!
I must say you made it look so simple unlike a lot of other videos thank you very much and i have subscribed
The video is shit and it’s a cartoon ffs.
cool, you explained very clear
the slow mo really helped thanks dude
Great video...thank you
I"m getting my first bike next week, and only 4:25 in, I now truly understand HOW you counter-steer. I kept watching other vids talking about it, but it was so hard to figure out were they pushing the handlebar "down" with pressure going towards the ground, or forward. The slow mo finally spelled it out for me. This will make practicing the slow speed maneuvers much easier
Glad to hear it! Make sure to go practice and get a feel for it once you get your bike. Ride safe!
Push left grip forward - go left.
Push right grip forward - go right
Lean with the bike, the bike will not lean with you. Simples. Good luck on the bike. Ride safe.
Oh so push dowwn not push straight lol
@@16CasualGamer No. You push straight.
@@16CasualGamer no. Push straight. (some bikes, respond better on pulling the opposite side of the handlebars. that would be pulling on the right side to go left)
The reason why all this is due to "Gyroscopic Precession" and " spinn angular momentum", or in laymans terms wheel momentum. If we oversimplyfy it a bit you can pretend that an applied force on the wheel, or in this case, the axel, gets "delayed" 90 degrees with the rotation of a fast spinning wheel. And this effect gets stronger the faster the wheel spins.
Here is a good vid on the matter czcams.com/video/NeXIV-wMVUk/video.htmlfeature=shared
Nice one thank for advice
This guy explains it clearly!
Love it!
Thanks for sharing Andrew, found this incredibly helpful
Bee riding for about 8 months and still freaking confused with this counter steering God Damn thing. This video got me more confursed but encouraged me to go out and practice. Thanks a bunch!.
Do not think, just go out riding so it gets into your spine. It is no theory, it must be intutive.
Very helpful
Great explanation
Shite explanation. It should be removed.
We see it better in slow motion. Thanks for the great advice!
well explained
Thank you
Best video on counter steering on the net. Thanks!
Great video on counter steering. I usually prefer to lean instead but this seems more precise and accurate! 👏 Can't wait to try it this weekend 💯
You prefer to lean instead of counter steering??? 😂😂😂. Speechless!
thank you so much for making this teachable, i understand a lot more after watching ur video. Sick bike!
Shite video. Dangerous and should be removed!
I think the most confusing part of counter steering is the fact that it happens so quickly, and most will learn it without knowing the name of it.
It's the fraction of a second where the wheel is going away from the turn, making you lean, thereafter, you bring it back neutral and coast into it.
Very thought provoking video man. 👍🏻
Agreed. Most people learn this being a kid learning to ride a pedaled bike.
The rider doesn’t steer the front wheel into the bend the bikes own steering geometry manages that. If a rider did try this he’d stand the bike up and fail to make the bend at all.
You nudge away from the turn, and the bike falls into the turn, for a handle bar turn. You could also just lean, and you're gonna go that way.
So this is my normal steering since beginning at the school. Thats what they told me, just push a go 😅
The way it clicked for me was not necessarily pushing or pulling the bars, even though that's relavent.
To lean right, for instance, don't think about getting your body or top half of the bike leaning to the right but just think you need to get your wheels/tyres to the left instead. That way you will steer left and both the bike and you will lean right.
Use a bit of restraint at first but pretty soon you will learn how much input you need to tip the bike in and stand it up too. It's pretty useful in gusty side winds too.
Finally found a video where it sunk in my thick skull. Hallelujah!
This is great thank you
Push right to turn right.push left to turn left , it gets confusing when they say left to turn right and right to turn left
Pretty sure when I heal up I'm gonna have to make a proper explanation video of counter steering. Was looking for something to send to a new rider that explains it and... Only been posting on TT but back to YT for a minute I guess
What bike is that it looks beautiful
fucking amazing and simple, great vid
So, is counter steering ' The ' best option to steer a bike? Or as some say 'Leaning' is the way to go.....it's confusing. But this video is by far the best tutorial I have come across, so simply explained. Thanks !!
so is turning the steering wheel in a car the best option to steer a car, or say something like shifting your weight to one side of the car seat.... ?!
counter steering is the ONLY WAY TO STEER A MOTORCYCLE - dont think about it, dont google it, dont watch videos just GO RIDE YOUR BIKE AND PUSH THE GRIPS AND VOLIA!
It’s the ONLY way to steer a bike. Countersteering causes the bike to lean, it’s the only way to make the bike lean.
Hi now i understand how it work and also i want question one thing, you talking about push and pressure do you mean like you pushing down your handlebar while you're pushing it to the left or you just give it pressure like only push it down and it will automatically goes left? I don't have bike yet so i cant try it yet
Push forward aka turn the handlebars opposite direction.
Pushing down will do nothing, no matter how hard you push. You have to push forward. Think of it like steering: if you want to go left, steer right (push left forward); if you want to go right, push right forward.
if your handle bars move up and down they are FALLING OFF
they are only suppose to move forward and back
Most worrying about this is he cannot remember which side of the handlebars is the starter button😊😊
their horn sounds like grinding starter gear teeth!
if u are so good to counter steering, remove ur hand that are not pushing ;)
If u push right to go right - do u lean left or right then?
That's was awesome ! A minute and I got it! Thank you!
Good video but - if you push all the way around the corner the turning arc will tighten, you will lean more and more until you fall over. It should be an initial push (as you said) to overcome the gyroscopic effect then relax the pressure and the bike will naturally go left.
Release the pressure an the bike will stand up. Forward pressure should be maintained on the inside grip throughout the bend.
You’re not explaining what’s happening when the bike is leaning, I get you initiate the push left turn left, but when in the turn the handlebars are facing left. So does the bike correct it and turn left because it’s leaning in or are you now pulling left? It doesn’t make sense how he says he’s still pushing left in the turn and the handlebars are facing left (as if he is pushing right). Hopefully my question makes sense
If you stop at a light and want to turn left does counter steering still apply
No.
No, this guy is confusing you. At slower speeds up to say 40mph like he’s demonstrating, you are actually steering in the direction you are going but you are ‘holding back’ the front wheel from tucking and, that’s not counter steering and definitely taking off from a stop there is no counter steering whatsoever. Likewise, beginning at slow moving there is a momentary initial push on the inside and pull on the outside but you are mostly steering in the direction you are going after that…even watch his demonstration you’ll see the wheel is turned in not out as he’s describing. Things change when you go faster than 30-40 mph, then counter-steering is the name of the game for smooth wide turns. But, at the same time I would add over-steering has some huge advantages in finishing very tight turns on the street but especially on dirt-biking. That is another set of skills that includes braking, throttle and clutching and squaring your shoulders with the bars to execute them…you shouldn’t have to worry about them yet to just go have fun.
if you want to turn the bike right from a stop, keep both feet down, turn the handlebars in the direction you want to go, and friction zone the clutch to get the bike moving. As it moves you will have to lean into the curve and pick up your feet when you feet stable
Yepp, but it takes only a second or two. If you start from a complete standstill you may tilt the bike a fraction with your toes without noticing it.
I have 3 motorcycle riding
1.) Rev matching.
2.) Trail braking.
3.) Counter steering.
These are the ones I have to get a "grip" on, to be able to free of "newb" status!😱🏍️🥺😵 Doug
Don't even think about trail braking until you know what you are doing. Its not something you need to know as a beginner. Trail braking is done to keep your suspension compressed as you enter a turn, so you can go faster. Its optional and it takes skill to do it effectively. Counter steering isn't optional. Most people don't realize they're doing it.
so if i will be going to the right ill push the right and i dont do any left push even a little?
Yes
bro what model is your bike??
I was always able to do this bc I went from bicycles to motorcycles but I never understood what I was even doing, thanks!
Do you have to counter steer the whole corner or to just start the corner I got my cbt in 5 days
on a corner its very touchy (at low speeds)
but on slow corners or fast curves you steer all the way thru the turn
I learnt countersteering in the 70's from a book written in the 30's!
And I learned counter steering in mid 50-ies when I had my first bicycle. Nothing fancy about this, its the only way to control a bike, with petrol motor or just leg-motor.
Basically you push it downawards not foraward?
Forward.
downward of course
Sorry newbie question, are you pushing down or forward?
If your handlebars move up and down take your bike to a professional shop on a trailer and get it FIXED!
Forward.
man Counter steering seems like it would feel counter intuitve :)
i wonder if countersteering can be practiced on a pushbike?
Of course
there is nothing to practice
you just DO IT
On any bike.
so that's why Im having trouble. im countering my counter steering
how can anyone "struggle" with counter steering?
Get on your bike
get up to 30mph
put forward pressure on the left grip, bike drifts left
put more pressure on left grip, bike leans left more and turns left harder
stop putting pressure on left grip, bike stands up and goes straight
it could not be any simpler
It's confusing because he says you're not turning the wheel to that desired direction, yet here he is. Turning his wheel to that direction 😂
@@SickDayFishing262
The rider isn’t turning the wheel in the desired direction, the bike is.
@@softailfun I understand how it works. I was answering the question “how can anyone struggle counter steering”.
Am I pushing out, our pushing down?
Out
Push the grip forward.
Beeeeep oops
Opps
I drove motorcycles in India for about 5 years since i was 13 or so without a license. Fell a couple times not big accidents but i learned it by myself. No courses or anything. Came to canada and went to take my knowledge test for motorcycle, I don't even know half of the concepts they asked me about. Really weird how west does stuff.
wierd, yeah. Instead of learning from our own fuckups and risking killing ourselves we perfer to learn by mistakes already made by others..... wierd this.
@@PampersNorwayroasted
Deep down inside people have a fear of riding
people who are afraid of riding do not know how to control a motorcycle
The MSF beginners course should be required in the US
You can’t just lean and turn??
And how do you get onto that lean? For a split second you coutersteer. In the turn your front wheel follow the turn, but you are in an unstable equilibrium, you constantly correct your lean with tiny tiny movements of the handlebar. You ride too fast with too little lean, then you steer outwarsa for a half second and cet more lean - you countersteer in the turn to keep the turn.
Says push right.. pulls right..
So riding a motorcycle is harder than thought.
Why counter steering? Don't you go in the same direction you go with the handle bar
No, you go in the direction the bike is leaning,
NO
at riding speeds the bike is self balancing and it goes straight all by itself
to make it turn you have to hold it OFF its self balancing, and you do that by pushing a grip forward
when you push the right grip forward the bike leans and turns to the right - its the opposite of what you do going around a corner at 3mph
@@kenwittlief255 You do exactly the same going in 4,8 km/h. The first moment you get into a tiny lean by counter steering, then you contol that lean with the handelbar. As in any turn.
@@kjellg6532
Just a question. Do you actually ride a motorcycle. I only ask because you give shit advise throughout these comments.
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The confusion about this is confusing to me.
Have you ever ridden a bicycle faster than walking speed? You’ve already done this, then.
The virst part totally confuses people .use the kis principle. ( keep it simple ) sitting on the bike and showing how its do is it .the rest is just background noise . practice! Practice, practice!
Credit to you for attempting to explain counter-steering but your video is misleading and contains some incorrect information.
You gave the impression early on with you "Push, push, push" comment that the counter-steering pressure must be continually applied throughout the turn. This is entirely incorrect, the brief push on the handlebar only serves to lean the bike over, after which the bars/front wheel will (and absolutely need to) turn in the direction of travel for the bike to continue through the turn.
At 5:30 you said "I'm keeping constant pressure on my right hand", yet the bars were clearly turned to the right, so you were not keeping constant pressure on your right hand, nor should you be.
I've never watched any of your other videos and I'm not suggesting that your followers abandon your channel, however, this is an important subject and a fundamental part of being in good control of a motorcycle, so in the interests of improving everyone's riding skills I strongly recommend both you and your viewers watch the counter-steering videos by Moto Control.
Good luck, happy riding and stay safe out there.
I fully agree in your comment. I fully know the theory behind counter steering and had som problems with this video. Your explanation is fully correct. One counter steer to get a lean, then hold the lean using normal steering and throttle.
@@kjellg6532 When someone uses the term "normal steering" you know they don't have a clue.
In order to turn right you push the right grip forward. The bike will immediately lean and steer right. Forward pressure is maintained on the right grip throughout the bend. If you need to tighten the turn push a little more, if you need to widen the turn, ease the pressure off a little. The front wheel obviously steers into the bend but this is accomplished by the bikes own steering geometry and not rider input. Simple. This works the same on sports, cruisers, customs, tourers and any bike in between.
@@softailfun Your third and fifth sentences are contradictory. There's no need to maintain forward pressure on the right grip throughout the bend and doing so would fight against the bike's geometry-driven desire to turn into the bend, this is why a bike can continue to go round in circles without holding onto the handlebars. Making micro-adjustments throughout the turn, to account for surface conditions altering the steering and/or changing radius, does require rider input, but continual pressure on the inside grip is definitely not needed.
@@GoneToHelenBach
Question, do you ride a bike or are we book bashing here? My 40+ years of riding bikes says that my description above is accurate and non contradictory. Judging from your last comment I don’t see how you can ride because you’ve probably be preaching this bs from a hospital bed, because you’re not going around any bend soon if that’s your plan on steering a motorcycle.
Dont think just do. If you think too much youll be in trouble. Just ride it like a bike
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There are hundreds of youtube videos that show riders panicking and steer directly into what they are trying to avoid.
you cannot manhandle a motorcycle like a bicycle
the front WHEEL on a motorcycle alone weighs more than an entire bicycle
A motorcycle weighs 2 to 4 times more than the rider
a lot of young people think they know how to ride a motorcycle because they can ride a bike, and they end up DEAD!
I seriously about to get mad all these videos show the handle bars go in the direction of the turn he says push right but the right handle bar is going towards him so that would be a pull not a push hoe tf does this make sense
try it
when you PUSH the right grip forward at speed, the bike leans to the right and it pushes BACK against your hand
and yes IT turns slightly to the right to maintain balance - when you stop pushing the bike stands up and goes straight
The motorcycle is self balancing at speed
to make it turn you push and hold it off balance, as described
Agreed. Confusing. One starts pushing to get a lean, the control the turn and lean with normal steering and throttle.
@@kjellg6532
Wrong! The rider never steers into the turn/bend, if he did he’d stand the bike up. Why? COUNTER STEERING doh!
@@softailfun You find some interesting details in this article with references to further reading: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicycle_and_motorcycle_dynamics
@@kjellg6532
So let me ask…. Do you actually ride a motorcycle?
Just to let everyone know this is not counter steering.... counter steering is literally what it sounds like..... Steering the opposite direction of the turn your taking.... it allows the front tire to have more of a contact patch with the pavement... also allows for tighter cornering without ending up going really wide..... anyone can look up any GP race and look at the direction of the front wheel while in a turn you'll see what I'm talking about
It’s called countersteering because to initiate the lean you turn the front wheel the opposite direction of your desired direction. Because of gyroscopic procession, once the rider has chosen his appropriate lean angle the wheel turns into the turn on its own. The bike is self balancing the entire time. When you push the bar left, the bike falls to the left until you stop pushing the bar, the bike knows in order to stay upright it must balance it self by countering what you did to get it to lean & turns the wheel in the direction of travel to stay upright & not completely fall to the ground. Every input to the handle bars upsets the balance of the bike & it corrects it self. This is why it’s so imperative to keep light on your bars & not put unnecessary pressure on them. If you hear a biker talk about pain in their wrist, they ride in the “push up” position & that is not good for any type of riding…
This driving skill is for people who do not now how to really lean the bike like Pro moto GP riders. I was learning how to drive the bike from Eddie Lawson and Freddie Spencer from racing track in that time. There is nothing better to feel the asphalt with your knee in the middle of the corner. This is motorcycle philosophy! Also push the horn button instead starter show me lot's of your driving experience.....any how good video for lazy people who do not like lean the bike.....good for harley fat boys...and japanese police officers with big fat heavy 300 kg bikes....for us in EU street racers with 200 HP sounded by Akrapovic and 200 kg bike... ????? forget it...
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Cool story, brah. Got any more drivel that you want to share??
poser rides motorcycles on his GameBoy
Never have I read such drivel. What’s this twat talking about????😂😂
This is nonsense
Care to place a bet? Make a video proving otherwise. For every $100 you put up, I'll put up a thousand.
Before you get too excited, this is a bet you will lose. You can get this information right out of a textbook.
😂😂
@@AT-wl9yq
Right 👍🏻
Non sense display .... sorry
It's the wording that is confusing. It's like riding a bicycle with no hands and making turns. If you can't do that then you shouldn't be riding motorcycles.
if you think you can ride a motorcycle because you can ride a bicycle you will die at the first 45mph curve you come to
when you cross the centerline and hit the opposite side guardrail
The push on one side of the handle bars is about creating instability, which is then immediately corrected by the normal lean and steering.
so essential when coming out of a lean or slower speed? just got my first bike today! getting my helmet tomorrow and gonna start learning to ride. feel free to drop some tips.
But not by the rider. The rider maintains a pressure on the inside bar.
You can’t just lean and turn??
Nope.