Breaking the Silence: Israeli Army Veterans Tour U.S. & Canada to Speak Out Against Occupation
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Democracy Now! speaks with two former Israeli soldiers who are members of Breaking the Silence, an anti-occupation group of Israeli army veterans. The group’s education director, Tal Sagi, describes growing up in a settlement and joining the military without understanding what occupation was. “We’ve been told that this is security and we have to control millions of lives and we don’t have other options,” says Sagi, who says Israeli society is not open to ending the occupation. “We’re trying to say that there are other options.” We also speak with Breaking the Silence deputy director Nadav Weiman about why the group is touring U.S. colleges and calling for a ceasefire in Gaza. “We stood in checkpoints. We raided homes. We attacked Gaza from the air. We fought from the ground,” says Weiman. “So, when you bring reality, you bring real conversation about the occupation, and you bring real conversation about Gaza.”
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How is it possible that this 18 year old keeps returning to jail because he refuses to serve while Benjamin Nethanyahu’s son is sent to Miami?
In fairness if your son serves he's not going to be targeted. If bibis son serves they will identify the regiment he's in and his capture would become a primary goal.
@@SnowsStorm1 😄You just keep telling yourself that Snowy.
"In fairness.."
@@SnowsStorm1 There are plenty of non-frontline jobs he could do. He wouldn't even need to be in The Gaza Strip. It would just be inconvenient for him.
@@SnowsStorm1 smell that? That gaslighting smell?
Netanyahu's son is evading a lawsuit in Israel. Go figure.
Let's agree that Israelis need a different education system like what happened in Germany after WW2.
Absolutely
❤
And kind of education would that be: that Jews are inherently evil?
They should be paying reparations from now until the second coming (which will never come lol)
Except the Jews were involved in Germany, and Germans are not involved in Israel, but the Jews are still involved.
Democracy Now! History will never forget the effort you put to show the reality
Neither will Shaitaan . . .he's very grateful 😅
What is democracy?
Hypocrisy now!
History should never forget that Amy Goodman and Democracy Now promoted false narratives about Syria during the US sponsored intervention in the Syrian civil war.
@@marinaconnors2571what hypocrisy , mainstream media won't even cover these stories
Well done to these two for speaking up about the disgraceful goings on in Israeli society.
Why doesn't any Israeli ever ask WHY did Oct 7 happen in the first place?????
Because they trust the story the authorities are telling. It is a HUGE change in our thinking when we begin to question our rulers. Mind blowing ideas are not easy to receive.
@@nancyanderson5310True. Probably Israeli history books are also twisted.
Because that would reveal truths thatbwould forever change Israelis' perception of everything?
@@JozsefLakatos-vh5rlexactly
What was Israel's role in killing Israeli civilians on Oct 7th . Why was the border left unguarded on that day?
Breaking the silence is for Humanity
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Liberal Zionists, no different than the right wingers
Why y’all keep saying about October 7th this occupation was going on for 40 years and Christian Zionist can’t wait until Israel fully controls Palestine they believe the second coming of Jesus is dependent upon that.
there is also te peacenow organisation
Very thankful for these courageous individuals advocating for peace, human rights and an end to the occupation, even when it is against the status quo in their country
We're fortunate to have people of virtue speaking out.
Don't forget to go to Germany, another country blindly funding this genocide.
Funding and supplying weapons. Rumor has it the Germans are planning to send ovens for baking.
It never really un nazified arfter WWII. They just shiped them around the world instead of deal with it. The UN was literally created with some Nazi's. Only 6k mostly lower ranikkng Nazis and SS were ever tried. Out of millions. In fact the reason Isreal exists ( one of many) is becuase even after the holocost, ppl in Europe stull did not want Jewish ppl living with them. So hey started to look for a place to ship them all to.
@@himo3973Die deutsche Regierung!
Die Bevölkerung hat Mitgefühl und Empathie, aber wir werden hier mundtot gemacht! 🤐🤐🤐🤐🤐🤐🤐🤐🤐
Germany has been actively emasculated by its own kind of [Occupation] dont let yourselves be Fooled !
There is NO genocide. My God, people are so bullheaded!
Aye. VERY important for ex-IDF to speak out. BRAVO!
Agree. Crucial
Aprés qu'ils ont tuer des centaines d'enfants en prison les nazis idiots
Amen!
Critical. Those are the voices we need tiene hear, the voices cron the people who went There and luces there.
Yet they had zero to say about why Palestinian leaders have rejected all attempts at peace. I suggest you go watch some videos under the ask project. Nearly every arab he has interviewed going back years has said the only outcome they will accept is one where they are no Jews remaining in the Middle East. What do you see as the solution then
God bless the honest people who stand up for truth and justice!
Thanks Democracy Now. So good to see some Israelis seeing the truth. May the education be spread thru USA and Israel x
What's also crazy to me, is how indoctrinated Nadav is, even though he's speaking out against what the IDF is doing.
He's still believing a lot of the IDF propaganda. He's still blaming hamas, and not seeing Israel's fault in this. The war was not just, an occupier has no right to launch an all out offensive against the people it's occupying.
Yes especially when they can access or could access most tv channels and also a lot have dual passports so you would have thought someone would have commented on what they have seen / heard elsewhere ? I know someone who lives in UK then goes there when she wants.
Yes totally
What were recent stats guys regarding Is-Not-Real citizens (mandatory service), settlers support for the genocide? 80, 90% currently ? I think they realize that world wide protest, boycotts will continue. And countries willing to punish their citizens on behalf of Is-Hell, proxy wars expansion ultimately will not be tolerated. Who in their right mind what's these dual citizenship sociopaths as a neighbor.
“We don’t want to harm israels security.” There it is. Liberal zionists are the enemy too 🔻🔻🔻
So true. And he also believes that the Americans can play a decive role in stopping the killing. Mentioning Joe as someone who is getting tougher on Israel?? Pure oportunistic calculation for re-election purposes.
ANTI-OCCUPATION ❤ GROUP OF
ISRAELI ARMY VETERANS
THANK YOU VERY
VERY MUCH !
yes! paliwood did convince some dumb ppl - great success
You forgot to place the X before the word Israeli.. veteran is the wrong word to use because it doesn’t mean EX as in no longer affiliated. Veterans means a retired fighter that is still connected, still committed to the military service they were serving.
@@miriamschiro8585 loser.
@@jakebanza6055 loser
@@miriamschiro8585 They had served their obligatory conscription and are clearly not committed at all.
Incredible piece of journalism! Thank you all for telling the truth!
As Tal Sagi says, when you grow up in an apartheid state and it is all you know, you don't question it. I grew up in South Africa and was a teen in the early 90's before the national elections. I remember the side walks. Whites walked on one side and non-whites on the other. I didn't question it because it was normal. As a child, I couldn't understand why our maid wasn't allowed to come to the beach with us but I didn't question it. When you grow up in the sort of environment and it is normal, you don't see anything wrong with it. It is only in retrospect that you realise the horrors of what happened and how we dehumanised the majority of the South African population.
Thank you for sharing your experience growing up in South Africa.
"That is people with no soul, or remorse! "Hell I had sense enough to know wrong when I saw it even at a young age in my life!! "I knew when things were not normal or wrong?" That is no excuse, but stupidity on your part, or just so called privilege!!
@@HindiOliver Not everyone is that perceptive. The Insult was unnecessary.
And now South Africa is a failed state. Under apartheid the country was developed stable safe and people had proper jobs.
For who? @@NationalYouth677
Thousands of ISRAELI for PEACE need to show their solidarity
Their version of peace is Palestine laying down and accepting their fate of oppression.
100
Aprés qu'ils ont tuer des centaines d'enfants en prison les nazis idiots
Yes.. all the Israeli citizens that were opposing the occupation come, speak up,. Where are you? Invisible and silent before October 7th.
I doubt it’s “thousands”.
Normalization of oppression, impoverishment, apartheid, occupation and dehumanization.
Apartheid is based on race NOT citizenship. Palestinians are not citizens of Israel. Do you know how many times they have been offered a path to statehood and refused. What they do you want.
@@SnowsStorm1
Palestinians are indigenous to the land you steel. You are from Europe and the U.S.
@SnowsStorm1 you can literally read the 21 page amnesty international report detailing how israel is absolutely apartheid. You don't know better than Nelson Mandela.
And Palestinians have never been offered statehood in any fair sense of the word. If they don't get a border and their own right to self govern, defense forces or right to return for their relatives then it's not really a state. And israel would need to stop their illegal settlements
@@SnowsStorm1 Yeah yeah, what does a guy like Nelson Mandela know about apartheid anyway, right? After all he was just a terrorist, like hamas....
@@SnowsStorm1 Search for this article to find out the truth behind that myth. "All the Times Israel Has Rejected Peace With Palestinians By Jon Schwarz".
This guys and this organization(breaking the silence) definitely needs more support rather than be criticized by us.
Breaking the silence is a gift to this cruel world order ruled by hypocracy. Thank you all, Nadav and Sagi ❤
It's not called "pressure arrests", it's called terrorism.
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Most people of the world have descended from heavens
Here to await the Creator
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Evolutionary theory cannot stand when exposed to sunlight
Atheism is harming humanity
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Pressure arrests is called Nazism!
Exactly.
what he meant its they call it pressure arrests.
Israeli Hasbara 101:
1. We haven't heard reports of deaths, will check into it.
2. Palestinians were killed, but by a faulty Hamas rocket.
3. Okay, we killed them, but they were terrorists.
4. Okay, they were civilians, but they were being used as human shields.
5. Okay, there were no fighters in the area, it was our mistake, but we don’t target civilians, like Hamas.
6. Okay, we've killed far more civilians than Hamas, but look at how terrible other countries are!
7. Why are you still talking about Israel? Are you some kind of anti-semite?
Accurate
and really we want the beach front property end to end hotels golf couses .We are tired of only owning the hill side .
the evil occupation of zionism
" *HAMAS = RESISTANCE ARTICLE 51 DE LA CHARTE DES NATIONS UNIS ne pas oublier que vous etes les envahisseurs sionistes* "
SPOT ON! ( I will steal that one)
Incredible interview. So good to hear people who are willing to stand for what they believe.
39:54 POWERFUL testimony from Nadav and from Tal. SO very grateful to you both for your bravery in breaking the silence. Thank you, Democracy Now, for this coverage.🙏🏾💛🕊
Listening to the sniper telling his tales of the “store windows” operations is making me nauseous. My god who could live like that without revolting before Oct. 7?
Do you know what preceded this? I keep hearing everyone in this comment section demanding to know why they didn't speak out about Jewish violence before now, but when should that have happened?
When should they have spoke out against "Jewish acts of violence? "
Should they have spoken out. between 1920 and 1938 when 100% of the violence was coming from the Arabs?
Should they have spoken out when the Arabs staged a violent revolt from 1936-1939, committing attack after attack until the British agreed to appease them by shutting off all Jewish immigration in to what was slated to become their homeland.
Should they have spoken out when an entire boat full of Jewish war refugees were left to drown rather than breaking that agreement and allow them to reach the holy land?
Should they have spoken out when the Palestinian mufti violentlu r*aped and otherwise brutalized Jews in Baghdad, driving 150,000 of them from their homes in what was referred to as the 1941 Farhud-a campaign that was the first of what was to be a million Jews who were dispossessed of their homes in the Middle East
Should they have spoken out when the laid siege to Jerusalem and tried to starve the Jews out of leaving their homes?
Should they have spoken out when the Arabs declared war in 1948?
Should they have spoken out when the Arabs repeatedly attacked civilians along the border and kept trying to destroy every attempt the Israelis made at building water infrastructure
Should they have spoken out when the Arabs moved their armies in to position and sent the un peacekeepers out of the region, effectively starting the war in 1967.
Should they have spoken out when the Arabs acquired missiles from the Soviets and violated their ceasefire agreement during the war of attrition in 1970?
Should they have spoken out when the Arabs once again declared war in 1973?
Should they have spoken out when the Israelis turned over all of Gaza in the hopes of moving the peace process forward, facilitated the arrival of billions in infrastructure materials needed to improve their water pipe lines and even left a booming floral industry, told them jumpstart the economy only for the military to instead use those pipe and the fertilizer for the construction of missiles
It should they have spoken out on the Arabs began the first intifada, and started killing thousands of Jews, in their marketplace, in their restaurants, and there public transportation?
Should they have spoken out when Yasser Arafat walked away from what many believe was the best chance the two groups ever had at peace and a second intifada was begun?
You would be correct and pointing out that this conflict didn't begin on October 7 but I'd like to know when in that history you believe we all should've been speaking out against all of the Israeli violence because I don't see when in that history you had in mind!
Exactly. Thank you for understanding
He doesn’t seem to have any remorse for what he did. He should never get tired of saying how sorry he is for the crimes he committed.
He thought he was serving his country.
@@paxetgratia He doesn't seem to express any pride in it either as far as I can tell. Ultimately the world needs a lot more Israelis like him.
The more I listen to them, the more my anger solidify. They don't hear themselves?? How many Palestinians have they killed?
Exactly my point
What hit me was the lady saying “they don’t see how much this affects the Palestinians and Israelis” right after she said she spent her whole life living as a settler and giving fun tours to other soldiers fully not knowing what’s happening to the Palestinians. Like please tell me, how was it affecting her life?
And then the guy continues to say “being pro israel is being pro peace” after describing in detailes how he terrorized civilians, helped unalive civilians while talking literally about them in mathematical terms as collateral damage, and justifying the destruction of homes as being in their way while they targeted more civilians.
I don't know what the rationale is for attacking when they're on with their families because that is some thing I would like to hear the other perspective on, but you'll notice that she didn't say that they were dropping missiles on civilians where there wasn't a terrorist residing there.
And for all your hand ringing, what about all of the Arab violence. The anti-israeli crowd keep saying that these people should have been speaking out about is really violence long before now, but when would you think that they should have been doing this ?
When should they have spoke out against "Jewish acts of violence? "
Should they have spoken out between 1920 and 1938 when 100% of the violence was coming from the Arabs?
Should they have spoken out when the Arabs staged a violent revolt from 1936-1939, committing attack after attack until the British agreed to appease them by shutting off all Jewish immigration in to what was slated to become their homeland.
Should they have spoken out when an entire boat full of Jewish war refugees were left to drown rather than breaking that agreement and allow them to reach the holy land?
Should they have spoken out when the Palestinian mufti violentlu r*aped and otherwise brutalized Jews in Baghdad, driving 150,000 of them from their homes in what was referred to as the 1941 Farhud-a campaign that was the first of what was to be a million Jews who were dispossessed of their homes in the Middle East
Should they have spoken out when the laid siege to Jerusalem and tried to starve the Jews out of leaving their homes?
Should they have spoken out when the Arabs declared war in 1948?
Should they have spoken out when the Arabs repeatedly attacked civilians along the border and kept trying to destroy every attempt the Israelis made at building water infrastructure
Should they have spoken out when the Arabs moved their armies in to position and sent the un peacekeepers out of the region, effectively starting the war in 1967.
Should they have spoken out when the Arabs acquired missiles from the Soviets and violated their ceasefire agreement during the war of attrition in 1970?
Should they have spoken out when the Arabs once again declared war in 1973?
Should they have spoken out when the Israelis turned over all of Gaza in the hopes of moving the peace process forward, facilitated the arrival of billions in infrastructure materials needed to improve their water pipe lines and even left a booming floral industry, told them jumpstart the economy only for the military to instead use those pipe and the fertilizer for the construction of missiles
It should they have spoken out on the Arabs began the first intifada, and started killing thousands of Jews, in their marketplace, in their restaurants, and there public transportation?
Should they have spoken out when Yasser Arafat walked away from what many believe was the best chance the two groups ever had at peace and a second intifada was begun?
You would be correct and pointing out that this conflict didn't begin on October 7 but I'd like to know when in that history you believe we all should've been speaking out against all of the Israeli violence because I don't see when in that history you had in mind!
@@Batool_Mso true, every point.
They are still partly in denial of reality. But must be supported and credited for their braveness of going to International media, it is impressive.
Lady has a symbol on her right shoulder promoting the false claim (israeli propaganda-lie) israeli women was systematic all raped. No evidence ever provided. Investigation show this is a deliberate Lie by israeli propaganda-apparatur..
@@SnowsStorm1 Let me sum that up for you - "what about..."
Your hasbara bs is old and nauseating.
Complete lack of humanity. "We don't care about anyone else's suffering". How sad.
as an aussie , i just salute these people who really are hero's in my book and also the trail blazers for a sustainable solution to this mess. in my book these people are the real patriots . look after yourself guys ,stay strong and as we say here "don't let the bastards get you down "i hope you're getting some support from people like miko peled.and other like minded patriots .and thanks amy and your crew for doing your bit and giving them a voice .
I’m so sick 🤢 listening to these testimonies. 😱
Same here 💔 and they show no emotions 😢
Excellent interview and discussion. Thanks so much for Democracy Now. Only the Truth about these issues can set us free. High time it comes to the light. End Apartheid Now.
Thank you guys for speaking for JUSTICE...this was truly A CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY 😞😞😞🤲🤲🤲❤️🖤🤍💚🇵🇸
this is unforgivable...
What these IDF soldiers is good but what they’re doing doesn’t go far enough. Also, my empathy for the safety of Israelis is non existent. They talk about their own safety too much & not enough about the safety of Palestinians. WAKE UP!!!
So in your world view they have to allow the Palestinians to wipe them off the map. Wow.
Totally agree.
This is lesson for humanity. They had ancestors that were persecuted from generational trauma and the govt is using that for these purposes. The propaganda of fear is constant.
Not just safety either, they are dying in the most horrific ways and any that survive have lost their whole family and probably a limb. It’s OBSCENE.
Agree 💯
This video should go viral.Peace nobel prize should go to these two brave humans
i can't bare to listen to these soldiers telling what they've been doing without emotion
The university I am teaching in NY warned me not to talk about Palestinian Israel conflict whrn I brought out a discussion on what worldviews the students think making us hate and not understand each other. A bias report was filed against me when I simply had this question added . Its unbelievable how SUNY system is also forcing us teachers to not even mention Gaza. Where is the academic freedom and why such Hypocrisy when America can criticize others and we cannot address this
I think USA is not a democracy … it’s just a mirage to placate the people and make them think they have control and rights but essentially haven’t . Uk is literally the same. This in Gaza has opened a lot of people’s eyes. I think when George Orwell wrote the book “1984 “ things were being put into place to delude and control us.
Have a discussion about the purpose of the constitution
Follow the money
The government can't limit your speech. The University you teach at, I'm assuming is not State run and is a for profit, not public school. That's the difference. And the comment is right, follow the money. Bet you'll find who is wanting to keep that topic quiet.
Is there a paper trail of this warning? If so, I’m sure any of these big media would be glad to disseminate this story. Obviously not traditional media but “TYT” “Rogan” etc. Get all the evidence you can, in fact try and draw some out on purpose and then go talk to someone. This could even be a lucrative opportunity for you.
The fact that he keeps saying “we” he knows he is guilty of these acts. Glad he’s taking action to correct these atrocities.
Shouldn't he still be put on trial for murder though?
@@s_shaleh yes, i think so too.
Tal Sagi and Nadav Weiman - Please accept my respect and admiration for the work you are doing for the betterment of humanity - the world is in desperate need of it.
You know there are always some people whose humanity is above all else. Know that there are always those whose hearts reject evil. Bravo Ex-IDF
By "settlers" they mean "thieves".
The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat.
So you must be careful to do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach.
EXACTLY!!! I’d love to praise these two but I feel like they’re STILL defending the IDF far too much!!! The guy wouldn’t admit that Hamas is no different than IDF!!! The difference is IsraeHELLi’s are an occupying force and has NO right to self defense!! Hamas is fighting to free their people from IsraeHELLI ZioNAZI occupation & the concentration camp IsraeHELL has locked them in for over 17yrs!! I wonder if he would have called J*ws terrorists if they’d freed themselves from concentration camps & killed Nazis???
"The same thing happened in the Americas, is how so many Europeans have taken over and why and how they ended up in America since the 1600's?? Yet "The POTUS saying one thing and stile begging for billions of more money to give to this monster to continue to kill off the Palestinis and take over their occupied land!! I'm tired of hearing American President double talk while trying to get more money and weapons to the Isra'elis when they know what they are doing is wrong?'
They need to stop sending all this money to them and Ukraine they keep pretending too, to get American money, when they haven't been good to others!! This world is a trip and they are going to pay dearly and take innocent people along with them!! Americans need to wake up and fight and stand up against the wrong going on, hell Isr'eal is occupation stolen lands too, the PM is lying and pretending to get Americans money to keep coming in since 1948, when they fool the world of their status!! Americans can't continue to believe they are the holy people? When we all know that is a made up lie!!
"All these wars need to stop, if governments and other countries disagree then they should be the one's fighting each other not the citizens, they should not be harm in their evil, they should go out into the desert and fight one on one? Not be pretending to find the enemy by blowing up innocent people homes and the people like scared un-train military that is shooting anything on purpose!!
@@Uriel-Septim. They fake and children of darkness, I am glad to see decent people learning the truth and is speaking out, letting people know they are not down with those de'mons!
Any Goodman is truly an unsung hero in our society. Serious and steadfast in her relentless pursuit of peace. Thank you Amy.
God bless her and anyone who speaks out
NPR is just like CNN, always leaning left. No open mindedness there.
Exposing Jewish psychopathy, day after day!
Be Quiet. 😜 You're annoying.
And her team.
God bless you, all , for telling the truth 🙏
Amazing courage these veterans have-true courage, where they will stand for the truth even when they face criticism or rejection from the people who mean the most to them. May HaShem bless their bravery and efforts.
To the young woman, we are all being jolted out of our comfort zones of not realizing the truth of our lives and our county’s policies. As an American I am angry because this whole operation is against what we as a country are supposed to be. How is this living up to our values for human rights? It’s beyond my worst nightmares. My blood curdles when you talk of the AI program, “Where’s daddy?”. I’m so frightened for all of my loved ones who are “daddy” in Gaza. Oh it’s too far gone.
Agreed. And considering that Is-Not-Real is U.S. weapons testing ground how soon before Lavender is used on U.S. protesters, dissidents? Peaceful justified protesters were murdered over Cop City.
America is a colonial state, a warmongering country that massively discriminated against blacks until the end of the 60s and had slaves 200 years ago. What exactly does America stand for?😂😂😂😂😂😂
Ah so you are a Gazan? When did you speak out against the violence coming from the Palestinians or do you think a century of trying to slaughter the Jewish people for wanting to live on their indigenous lands is somehow justified?
@@SnowsStorm1 Wow, hasbara troll has some gall. Learn some history kid and don't be an hasbara tool.
@@SnowsStorm1 who is actively killing whom TODAY? Not youuuu.
Sad thing is ! whatever anyone says will not change the narrative . A psychopath is a psychopath . When you have a room of psychopaths making decisions you have no hope .
This is so courageous of you to speak out
Thank-you both of you for standing up for humanity , I pray and hope you both have greater strength and courage to continue this great work
Special Forces against civilians wow 👀🙄🤔
I have to ask, what other way could have Palestinians, even Hamas, could have been listened to, to register their hopelessness and outrage at the occupation and treatment given them for decades - to be taken seriously - BESIDES a surprise attack of violence? They tried for so long to oppose the apartheid and control that Israel continued to justify and ignore. I don't condone the violence against Israel - but really - what would have convinced the Israeli's that these inequalities and injustice were morally, politically, and militarily - unsustainable to achieve peace and safety for Israel or Palestinians?
Unfortunately the problem has never been to educate or inform the Israelis, the problem has been and is still to inform the American public about the corruption of theirs politicians and theirs médias. Israel has no means whatsoever to dominate the palestinians without the imprecedented political, financial and military support of the United States and theirs allies hiding theirs crimes behind lies and willful misinformation served to theirs populations. Even the churches leaders has been bought by the Israelis lobbies. The same lobbies that control the banks who borrow the needed money to buy the needed weapons from the factories owned by the same lobbies the whole paid off by American tax payer's money.
Yes if everyone sits and really thinks about if that was them what would they do. In America and most countries 'if some comes to attack you ,YOU HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO DEFEND YOURSELF IN ANY MEANS ' why is it ok for some and not others
Exactly
You don't condone the violence against Israel!! What would you do if you can imagine yourself in the position of the Palestinian?
There is NO occupation of Palestine by anyone other than Hamas - why don't you go to Israel - it's the only democratic nation in the middle East
Thank you for speaking out! It's extremely courageous of you to stand up against your own kind in this difficult time!
nadav speaks very good, and thank you btw. that you talk like this infront of such a forum! bless you, god safe the holy land, give the whole wider region a rest from all the violence, and bring peace into the hearts of every living soul!
It is so amazing for me as a longtime watcher of democracy now to see the subscriber count continue to increase every single week I think since the war has started hundreds of thousands of subscribers have been added it is amazing to see a whole new generation find out about democracy now and the wonderful work that Amy and Juan and Nurmeen do
Yes D.N. is a staple for me as well & with Al Jeezara being shut down so important that people have trusted credible news sources
Im from Hungary and I watch it every day!
One of the better political youtube channel is also using democracy now videos for explaining what is going on.
Here in Hungary in the news media they show nothing, one newspaper reported that Gazans are on a diet thats why they are skinny.
The city is full of Israelis on holiday 😢
Interesting, the importance of speaking out while also admitting you're a war criminal
You are so right. They should have spoken out about jewish violence in the region before now.
I wonder when you think they should have started?
When should they have spoke out against "Jewish acts of violence? "
Should they have spoken out. between 1920 and 1938 when 100% of the violence was coming from the Arabs?
Should they have spoken out when the Arabs staged a violent revolt from 1936-1939, committing attack after attack until the British agreed to appease them by shutting off all Jewish immigration in to what was slated to become their homeland.
Should they have spoken out when an entire boat full of Jewish war refugees were left to drown rather than breaking that agreement and allow them to reach the holy land?
Should they have spoken out when the Palestinian mufti violentlu r*aped and otherwise brutalized Jews in Baghdad, driving 150,000 of them from their homes in what was referred to as the 1941 Farhud-a campaign that was the first of what was to be a million Jews who were dispossessed of their homes in the Middle East
Should they have spoken out when the laid siege to Jerusalem and tried to starve the Jews out of leaving their homes?
Should they have spoken out when the Arabs declared war in 1948?
Should they have spoken out when the Arabs repeatedly attacked civilians along the border and kept trying to destroy every attempt the Israelis made at building water infrastructure
Should they have spoken out when the Arabs moved their armies in to position and sent the un peacekeepers out of the region, effectively starting the war in 1967.
Should they have spoken out when the Arabs acquired missiles from the Soviets and violated their ceasefire agreement during the war of attrition in 1970?
Should they have spoken out when the Arabs once again declared war in 1973?
Should they have spoken out when the Israelis turned over all of Gaza in the hopes of moving the peace process forward, facilitated the arrival of billions in infrastructure materials needed to improve their water pipe lines and even left a booming floral industry, told them jumpstart the economy only for the military to instead use those pipe and the fertilizer for the construction of missiles
It should they have spoken out on the Arabs began the first intifada, and started killing thousands of Jews, in their marketplace, in their restaurants, and there public transportation?
Should they have spoken out when Yasser Arafat walked away from what many believe was the best chance the two groups ever had at peace and a second intifada was begun?
You would be correct in pointing out that this conflict didn't begin on October 7 but I'd like to know when in that history you believe we all should've been speaking out against all of the Israeli violence because I don't see when in that history you had in mind!
Tech all who serve in a military could be war criminals under many laws.
And continuing to justify it under a liberal narrative, the liberal Zionists like these guests are the worse
How calmly he spoke about his cowardly atrocious acts. Bone-chilling, just a regular isra helli.
At least he's admitting what he has done we have been blind by all the lies that been spread about Palestine people now we know the truth and we can see Israel government is the criminal here and All the politicians that only care about how much money they can take from our pockets to kill innocent people at least I can share the truth sharing this video and more people are aware I know what he has done is unforgivable but he also opened his eyes and realized everything he has done was not right at the end he was another puppet the president of Israel use to kill Palestinians that is extremely sad that we have been used by then to do the dirty work their using our taxes for this genocide unforgivable!!!
Found it bizarre when he said the first 2 weeks responding to Oct 7th was justified. It wasn't.
There's nothing "bizarre" about it.
90% of Israelis think the genocide is justified up until today.
Believe me. He's miles better than most Israelis.
I hope and pray these people are doing some good. I cannot understand many of their words - the accent and the speed at which he talks - bless them!
AMY you are GREAT. Your question about Palestinian resistance was awesome!
Imagine the world would be asking for cease fire and security guarantee for germany in 1938 when id it what it did in the concentration camps. It's totally insane. The only thing the world should be discussing are sanctions, prosecution, and military responses to this Genocide.
Are you kidding? Germany killed 6 million Jews who never once picked up a gun. They were forced in to labor camps until they died. By comparison israel is fighting back after Gaza's elected government invaded their country and in trying to kill Hamas they are incidentally killing 1 civilian for every fighter in the process. You think that is the same? And since you are the one drawing the comparison please show me all the acts of violence the Jews commuter against the Germans that precipitated the Holocaust, because I absolutely can show you a lengthy list of all the violence the Arabs committed against the Jews.
It is so nuts.
I have the highest possible regard for anyone with the courage to speak out against the crimes of their own people. You ARE making a difference. Thank you so, so much.
That was a superb interview. Thanks so much for the information, which has certainly widened my understanding.
“There are levels to not knowing”. It is the exact same thing as is happening here in the USA. I know people who rather than protest this, just choose to stop tuning in and pretending that life goes on. We are forever going to be changed by this. Regardless of which side you take or which side you ignore, there will be a response by karma. I am looking forward for the pendulum to swing back …
Greatest respect for these two members of Breaking the Silence, as well as for the organization generally, and also for the conscientious objector. Their testimonies are invaluable. Their stand for decency and peace and against genocide deserves the highest praise, as does their courage in speaking out.
Thank you for standing for humanity. Thank you
To Democracy Now, thank you for airing these eye opening stories. This has been very insightful.
Couple of words to support the channel! Free Palestine! 🇵🇸
So grateful for the work that Breaking the Silence does...thank you Tal and Nadav for sharing your insights with us. Also, for pointing out our (US) complicity in these war crimes. May a shared peace come soon to this land.
Thank you for standing speaking the truth.
Thank you to these brave and decent ex military men and women for speaking out on the inhumanity of the settler state!
Not a settler state. The Jews are indigenous to judea. Experts have specific criteria for determining indigeneity when was changed to add that they have to be living off their land, a criteria that just so happened to be added right after the jews regained their ancestral lands. No indigenous rights group accepts that they would lose their indigenous status should they ever reclaim a portion of theory land and based on all the remaining standards the Jews are the indigenous people of judea.
@@SnowsStorm1 "The Jews are indigenous to judea" But not really though. Learn some history!
@@SnowsStorm1 You are ridiculous! Of course it is a settler state.
@@jhegre The worst in the history of the Arab land that has always attracted colonies.
@@SnowsStorm1 Israel killed more civilians in Gaza the last month than the number of Israeli civilian killed in total in the LAST 75 YEARS!
Now hurry to get this comment removed. You don't want that truth to come out....
He neglected to mention the release of Palestinian hostages.
Breaking the Silence, thank you.
Thank you for sharing this ❤️🕊️
Guilt mentality! They feel remorse of what they did , But still defend the ockupation!
And why now talking about Why not serval years ago Don’t trust them don’t trust now’s
Real talk, every zio is an enemy not just the right wing ones.
No they don't feel remorse. Sociopaths are always 3 steps ahead of everyone. Their higher ups have calculated this P.R. b.s.
I'm at the 15 minute mark, what makes you say they support the occupation?
They don't support the occupation
Thanks guys, really appreciate it .
Amen
She was a tour guide for the army and yet she didn’t know? I don’t believe a word she says !
Shameless and heartless
The sniper operations Nadav described starting at around 12:40 is called using human shields. Using human shields is an Israeli practice.
I call it cowardice.
Yes exactly.
-, always blaming the other for what you do yourself is a trend.
No it is NOT - Israel values ALL life - who do you think is providing safe passage, medical aid, humanitarian aid to Gaza - ISRAEL since when is a nation at war required to provide it's enemy with anything - they aren"t!
@@gracelatour3441 How this soldier explains it sounds horrible. Listen to what he says.
What a vicious use of AI. My ears are burning
This is a most important interview for all the world to know. It broadens the mind, bolsters the spirit, and promises a great future and, within the gloom of death and destruction, proves the necessity of great and empathetic journalism.
Happy birthday Amy. Thank you Dr. Feroze and Dr. Mark for reporting about the atrocities being committed and for volunteering to help the civilians. Thanks for sharing the ways in which people could take action to make the politicians stop and put an end to this genocide. Praying for the release of hostages, and the pressure should increase on politicians to stop war and stop sending weapons for destruction. Its so heartbreaking that politicians are so cruel to let this madness continue.
To dehumanise a people, the oppressors have to be dehumanised themselves. That’s how it works. Even given that these people have ‘broken the silence’ it’s still tough to unlearn, use the right words, and come out of that haze they are in. It’s stunning how conditioned the Israhelli society is!
I am slowly realizing how conditioned I am to horrors. The series THE CROWN warned its audience of traumatic scenes of Diana throwing up. But the episode of the death of the Romanoffs began with graphic footage of the slaughter - no cautionary intro. This hit me between the eyes, blew my mind. I am 86 and grew up watching WWII movies. No TV. But those movies inserted and fed ideas I am now seeing. AI began long before the tech mechanism. Manufacturing reality became possible when we were driven off the land, into cities, away from nature, our fathers no longer home, able to guide and protect. Rape became the most unreported epidemic ever to devastate the human race. To this day. As I said, wake up time
That’s called capitalism. A destructive system on society and families. Relationships are merely financial. How many families I know that their children are much worse off than their parents. It takes a strong parent to raise a child right in this decadent society.
Your thinking is wrong.
Well said!
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That 18 year old Tom such a personality! It brought back my belief in humanity, his speech was so powerful. Hope he will be one of the great young voices for peace
Thank you all for spreading the truth. Thank you Democracy Now. I love this network.
Thank you once again Democracy now. Also the Nadav and Tal. God Bless you and I ask God let your voices ring out far and wide.
Too little, too late, GenJo.
I admire the young woman’s honesty and insights of her compatriots , “ years of not knowing or wanting to know . They don’t see or care about the Palestinians or their rights or suffering “.
Chilling but correct .
Well spoken from the lady & gentleman. ☮️
Salute to this guy. 101% respect
I wonder what the conditions were for former IDF in prison verses the illegally held Palestinians in prison.
Definitely not the same. They don't use torture on Israeli prisoners obviously.
Until october most Palestinian prisoners had a relatively nice time in Israeli prisons, even those proud of deliberately killing civilians, that girl who only stabbed her Jewish neighbor, and so on. it was like a hotel compared to your typical muslim country or far east country.
@@matan9577 your out of your mind.
God Bless these courageous and good Israelis.
Please world, stop Israel’s ethnic cleansing.
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Well said
Aprés qu'ils ont tuer des centaines d'enfants en prison les nazis idiots
Hardly a shred of courage. They inflicted so much pain, humiliation, and suffering on 🍉 🍉 🍉! I don't believe they didn't know
@@hayfaa.8955 they have to speak out or this catastrophe will continue. Good sign for Palestine freedom. bB needs to be go
Thank you for sharing this.
Thank you for speaking up!
Most People know about AIPAC but some do not know ADL ( Anti-defamation league) . please make a video about it
and radical churches provoking end times
@@lorascelsi8102absolutely correct!
@@AZtea4UnME Praying For Armageddon, a Al Jazeera film. Very enlightening about u$ involvement in this conflict.
@@lorascelsi8102 I'll look into that. Ty
@@AZtea4UnME you welcome
Respect for breaking the silence
We the people will always suffer as long as we are fighting one another…. This situation is just so too much!
I think humanity is died out from society
But these two beautiful gentle man and woman have proved that humanity is still exist. There is water even in hard stone.
And we hear our politicians say “move on, assimilate, accept, stop resisting…” why should the occupation continue?! Why?
It is striking that even this brave, truthseekers man and woman still...don´t seem to understand how wrong israeli mindset is. How "we didn´t know" or "we have to take care of our pain, I cannot think about the palestinians" is not a reasonable thing to say...Is not something you shoud be understanding about...
Exactly. They aren't being continuously bombed, starved, tortured, having limbs amputated & C-sections with no anaesthetic, entire land flattened & poisoned. But hey "we have to take care of our pain" wtf!?
I was able to sense some degree of remorse and guilt in the woman's voice. Her mannerisms kinda showed that she felt uncomfortable answering some of the questions put to her. The guy on the hand, just seems nonchalant. His blow-by-blow account of how the sniping operations worked was essentially a confession to the crimes he had committed and yet here he is, still walking free.
Hats off to both of you, Nadav and Tal!! They represent a beacon of humanity with their actions and speaking out!!
Thank you Tal and Nadav for speaking the truth, we appreciate your work. God bless you.
Thank you Amy Goodman for speaking out for the Palestinians. You have a heart of Gold! 💛🇮🇪❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
HEY you, whoever's reading, this is your sign. everything's gonna be okay you did not come this far to give up. I believe in you!
Nothing should supersede ones loyalty to humanity, compassion, justice and equality. Not country, nor politics, nor religion.