Dodge Hornet Completely Dead At Dealer For Weeks, No Answers, So Many Issues Documented đ±
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 28. 07. 2024
- In today's video I talk about another Dodge hornet down at a dealer for weeks with no answers. Dodge aka Stellantis refuses to buy this hornet back, and it's approaching almost a month of down time. These little cross overs are a disaster for Dodge and are going to cost Stellantis so much money in warranty work.
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A lot has happened since we first posted about our similar issue. They re-flashed the computer. Replaced the cluster. And, more...czcams.com/video/8fNorcxSQEU/video.htmlsi=Y_RhYznsYNDYhEUr
We were informed last Tuesday by the dealership that our '24 GC Jeep's cluster had successfully been replaced and our vehicle was ready for pickup. They said they test drove it and it checked out. We drove it for approximately two and a half miles in a square right back to the dealership because the issue was not fixed. So, it appears the second cluster was defective, as well. We purchased our brand new vehicle on 5/2/24. Stellantis would not offer a refund buy back at the 40, 50 or 60 day marks. We took it back immediately for the third time after having it for approximately 11 minutes. On July 2nd we will hit the 60 day mark as Jeep Grand Cherokee Lemon owners.
Even more frightening, we are not alone.Since we check multiple lemon law boxes at this point (not functioning for 30 business days & in service 3 times for the same issue) , the IL Attorney General & NHTSA have been notified and now we have to pay even more out of pocket to get out of this nightmare. I cannot believe they really do this to people. We could have gotten killed or killed someone else. I really liked that vehicle. We'll most likely never buy a Stellantis product again.
If you guys ever feel like coming on the channel we can set up a podcast video format and you can talk about the issue from start to present. I think if more customers knew about this they'd avoid them
Stellantis= Pure Garbage. Anyone contemplating buying a Stellantis product might consider getting their head examined.
The Hornets owners forums are jam packed with people and their broken down junk. Crazy
Link?
Dodge Hornet - a bigger joke than Mary Barra's electric fiascos - and that is saying something!!!
Fix it again Tony
you're thinking of a fiat dale
-hank hill
It is a FIAT engineered. I heard someone who tried to pick up a NEW Meserati SUV from a dealership and the Meserati manager said the vehicle is not ready and it was DOA...later revealed crippled by faulty reverse camera. This reminds me of F-150 getting crippled by a faulty tail light. Amazing these modern cars are disabled by something mundane!.
The ONE car they have plenty of sitting around, and they can't swap it out?
They already have that customers money, they need to sell more junk.
I'm no fan of Stellantis but I have to ask the question...
The Hornet is an Alfa, so I assume it was designed offshore...
The other models having these ridiculous issues were designed in the US?
Is this related to the US engineering team that was let go with-in this last year?
If so, WTF happened? Incompetence? Is it just the electrical connectors that don't lock together?
Sorry if I'm behind on the details, but I hate watching the death throws of a brand I really love... at the same time, either through incompetence or worse, people are going to get hurt in these vehicles.
Good questions!
They should bring back the Neon.
The Dart was supposed to be the next SRT4 Neon at least some thought that.
It's dead, Jim. McCoy to Kirk.
Stellantis US more and more seems like a box of misfit toys. No loaner is outrageous.
this is why i'd never trust a low mileage used car it probably was broke for months
When the financial institutions won't finance them, there's a problem. They want their money back.
depending on jurisdictions, many weeks would qualify it for the lemon laws...
Is this a lot rot problem? I wonder how long this alfa romeo was sitting on the lot before being purchased DOA.
it is a fiat. what do u expect?
i can fix the problem...as my mechanic told me once...just lift up the radiator cap......and drive a brand new car under it....replace cap
@@bill9845 ?
Imagine spending $40k on a Dodge Hornet đđđ
You know hornets are a beast when they get mad and will sting the daylights out of you. Sounds like the hornets are mad and stinging the customer. Poor customers.
Lmfao hornet
Tk, with the Hornet I have heard of coolant leaks due to plastic type fittings attached to the coolant lines that run from the front to the back & to the front again.
they use way too much plastic in the engine compartment
wire harnesses are all way way way too short
Their third world country engineer couldn't figure it out. Not shocked.
this Sounds like Many that i know they can not find there Ass with both hands
Should have bought an AMC Hornet instead of a Dodge Hornet.
I actually owned an AMC Hornet a long time ago ...and it was GREEN!
Oh my God another hell for customer. âWe need a chance to fix itâ - those horrid words I heard for my notorious Challenger 392.
and people wonder why i like driving my ordinary basic little car without all the do dads
Dodge is junk. My nephew bought a used 2016 Durango 4 years ago. Now it has a flashing check engine light. At 72,000 miles, the engine is carbonized, has a misfire, and needs major repairs. I knew it would not end well., but he bought it without telling me anything. I told him to dump that junk on carvana and get a good vehicle like a Toyota or Honda. They are now in the process of doing just that and selected a 2025 Honda Pilot. They will be in much better shape with that quality sport utility vehicle. My message is if it's STELLANTIS, run away as far and fast as you can.
it's a re-badged alfa romeo. they started designing it years ago based on old fiat 500/ jeep renegade. the engine 1.5 comes from fiat brasil but they added on it direct injection maybe making less durable. don't know how interested they are in this platform or being replaced by peugeot ones
Bruh nobody wanted these Italian cars idk why they keep trying to push them on the American market.
The reason the Hornet is not selling is that it is as ugly as sin, look at the mustang mach E this is it ugly cousin , buy the way the E in mach E stands for Edsel
The only times I see a new Hornet on the road is during a test drive.
I'm assuming that if this is in the US then whatever state this is happening in has a lemon law to some degree. That will likely be their only recourse. And of course never buy a Stellantis vehicle ever again.
I sure wish that intro was a little bit longer with the old style music and then with the remix coming inâŠ. Itâs bada$$ but way too short. I appreciate all the information you share on the MoparsâŠ. I have 2 Chargers (2010 SRT8/2019 Scatpack). I was trying to get the 2023 Super Bee but the dealership that Iâve been doing business with for over 20 years wanted 10k above MSRP. Ainât no way Iâm dumb enough to have done that.
$80,000 for garbage ... $50 a month for a bus pass ?? .... THEY WANT YOU TO STOP BUYING CARS !!
Absolutely JUNK !
the stealership in Hartford CT is offering a lease on them for $179 a month
A monthđ that's cute. Jeep had my rig for 14 weeks and couldn't fix or diagnose. Garbage technicians and refusing to disclose what they found because they didn't want to pay for lifetime warranty repairs.
I had a manula transmission Dodge Shadow for a while. It wasnt fancy, but it ran good and was fun to drive. It will be a miracle if they can ever make a good small car again. The 2024 Trax is the way to gpnon a cheap small car. GM fixed some of the earlier reliability issues for this new design, and it seems like a good car overall.
Worse than a Yugo at 20 times the price.
Those guys that go around to the dealers to âfixâ the cars are not engineers. I worked for Dodge dealers for 23 years and never once saw an âengineerâ.
They are called âfield tech specialistsâ.
Here in the Boston area we had some good ones but theyâre not engineers.
Maybe a disgruntled QC worker with malice in his heart downloaded a nasty rogue ransomware program in one of the on-board computers somewhere. Maybe the rogue program keeps moving around and hi-jacking different parts of the car at different times. with all these many drive by wire systems deployed throughout the car (no mechanical linkage is connected to controls anymore) everything is moved and driven by transducers and computers. Imagine you are on the highway with your family when suddenly your car decides to go full throttle and the ABS computer closes all the valves which permit brake fluid to flow to each wheel. And the start-stop button doesnt respond, nor the transmission range selector buttons. The window buttons and door lock buttons are all turned off and you have now accelerated to over 100mph.
paying 42k for any car is a mistake!
i heard banks wont even finance the hornet LOL. (im not sure if it was you or another tuber i heard it from)
i remember one YT reviewer had issues with their test car and it kept breaking down too.
What a pile of schitt.
I heard they have 220 days of inventory on hand and can't sell them. The car buyers of America are learning.
Iâve read they have a 500 day inventory. Who knows who is telling the truth.
I'll stick with my 30 year old jeep thank you very much. Starts runs and stop everyday for the last 300,000 miles and still going. It may be a classic but it is dependable in all types of weather day in and day out. And no payments for junk.
Read your lemon law. In my state, if the car is at the dealer for 30 days total, issue solved. The manufacturer MUST buy the car back for the original selling price minus some cents per mile. That would be the best thing to do now, even if you love the car because you can buy a new 2025 for $10k less.
RESCISSION OF CONTRACT there is a DEFINITE PROBLEM OF DRIVE-ABILITY the if the Customer dose not act on this they are FOOLS any LAW DOG can Dig this one up
the next Question is the Car road worthy Now they need a letter of demand
and go from there
Hornet power!
The sale manager told they can't sale the hornets evc they keep dying.
I have only saw one Hornet and it was on a flat bed.
I wonder if there are actually any good ones and whatâs different about them.
A long while down the road there'll be a class action.. and all the consumers will get screwed.. no jusutice.
From what I was told people were purchasing these cars in transit to the dealers.. đ€·
they had a choice not to buy junk........
Take it to a Alfa Romeo dealer
The âcrown jewelâ of Stellantis.
I would not buy a Dodge product with a 10 foot pole. Been there, done that.
Apparently the dealer is crap,I've been a chrysler tech for 40 years,only at 2 dealers in all that time and both would have swapped that customer out by day 3 of that vehicle becoming unusable, so I'd rip on the dealer,that car can be repaired but should not be customers problem
not for nothing, but the dodge brand tends to attract food stamp customers too. hence why they wrap government cheese in a caviar wrapper.
SAD !!!!!!!!!!đ
Quick @autobeef gotta throw this stuff in XD
Ohhh Ford just had recall on mustang steering wheel on fire who next air force one đ
They are absolute! Dog shi! I work for dodge and the hornets that come in donât even run and when they doâŠ.. they sound horrible and electrical problems
You of all people should know o % financing is only for people with credit scores over 800
It's an Italian car. Nothing more need be said.
Everybody here in the comments who are confused about why Americans would even consider buying one of these is missing one point. Most folks arenât car enthusiasts and they donât actually know Hornets are reskinned Tonales. They see a dodge badge and they think itâs a domestic. Iâm not denying the huuuuuuge dip in quality from Stellantis as thatâs obvious, Iâm just pointing out the way many folks think about their vehicles.
Dodge Neon was a piece of crap but at least it didn't cost 45K , should be called murder hornets đ
The Neon may have had some issues, but they were inexpensive, easy and cheap to repair. Outside of the early head gasket issues, they were fairly reliable. But any good mechanic could easily and cheaply fix the gasket.
The SRT4 was a fun one. For a piece of junk Dodge/Plymouth sold a lot of them.
Yeesh. I've built and sent spaceships to Venus, Earth orbit, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn and I'm thinking, "c'mon, guys, this isn't rocket science."
Then again, maybe it is, or a portion of it is.
I just finished a youtube video with Ivan at Pine Hollow Diagnostics where a dealer spent 3 years on an intermittent charging problem on a Lincoln Corsair and couldn't fix it, then wouldn't buy the car back because the customer had waited too long to invoke lemon buyback. So Ivan looks at it, then the wiring diagram, and traces the problem to a single wire from the ECU to the alternator. Long story short, there was one bad contact in a connector socket because the internal spring was missing in the contact, thus it would not make hard contact with the pin, so the entire charging system would fail at random intervals because this wire was used as a digital data interface between the alternator and the ECU.
In other words, the car was so complex that one bad contact in one connector killed the whole car.
Looking at the Hornet's failure code in TK's video, there may have been no communication between the ECU and the water pump, hence the car wouldn't start. So it could have been from one bad wire.
Hmm, where have we seen this before?
Don't blame the Hurricane motor for the issues with the Hurricane RAM, it may have improperly designed harnesses that may not have used years corporate knowledge that knows that any wire loom from the firewall to the engine needs a service loop to accommodate the motion of the engine as it rocks in the engine mount as engine torque is generated.
The CAD tool that determined the harness length may not have been programmed to allow extra slack for relative motion between motor and chassis, so the connectors came unplugged after a few miles.
Oops. That's what you get for firing your knowledge base.
The cardinal rule in any spaceship or rocket is that you don't take wire harnesses lightly. Entire careers are made in cable harness world because of all the incredible minutiae that has to be known to make the harness work properly, from the mile long part numbers for each contact, to the backshells, wires themselves (when do you use twisted pairs, when single conductor, shielded or non-shielded, how to terminate shields, wire gauge to safely conduct the intended current, etc. ad nauseum)
Every manager thinks cabling is no big deal and wants to cut costs by eliminating cabling engineers and techs as the first to go to save money. They are warned not to do this, but they do it anyway. Once one manager decided to change wire gauge on a major 1000+ wire harness from 28 gauge to 30 gauge and told the contract vendor to use the smaller gauge wire. The engineers had been fired at that point and weren't around to tell the vendor to swap out the contacts from the thicker 28 gauge to the thinner 30 gauge. The vendor tried to tell the manager that there was a problem, but the manager told the vendor to build the harness to the design drawing, which they did. So after the harness was built and installed on the gear, lo and behold, there were multiple failures because the thinner wires pulled out from the contacts because the crimp tool wasn't able to provide sufficient grip strength on the wire in the contact. So the wires just came out. Everywhere. They had to redo the entire harness. Cost them over $1M and 9 months of schedule slip.
Just from one itty bitty contact that wasn't changed when the wire was changed form 28 AWG to 30 AWG on some manager's whim.
So if electricity is the lifeblood of a modern car, the veins and arteries are the wire harnesses and contacts. And anyone who doesn't treat their cable harness engineers like gods deserves the clusterf**k they get as a result.
So, nah, I'm. Not. Buying. ANY. Stellantis. Product. ICE or EV.
They need to PROVE to me they know how to build a car to last first, then back it up with a 10 year unlimited mileage pwertrain warranty
This just isn't cutting it.
Why not take most of the elec./ computer crap off the car, and let the thing run like it's supposed to.
Dodge were rubbish before Stellantis
Not really. There was a time when Dodge was pretty decent, but now-- ALL of Stellantis is complete shit.
its an electric issue i just bet
You love Dodges so you buy a new Hornet--imagine your surprise when you find out it's just a POS Alfa Romeo.
What else did you expect from something made by Alfa Romeo/ Fiat?
Fiat makes the worst vehicles on earth.
Yugo is worse, but they're not around anymore.
Alfa romeo Guillia.quaddrafolio
Is a nice car..Ferrari 500 hp..very well built.sounds like you are confused .lol
Just think what Chrysler could be today if they never had been bailed out in 1979... or 2008.
It'd still be better than what Stellantis is doing to them!
Chrysler wasnât bailed out in â80. The Gov backed loans were from private institutions. There was no taxpayer money spent on the â80 crisis. Yes, the taxpayer could have been on the hook if Chrysler defaulted on the loans, but they didnât. The loans were payed back way ahead of their due date.
I would never buy a dodge Hornet name was stolen from Amc Hornet which with a v8 was a cool car ,this pos i wouldnt pay 4000 grand for it ,alfa roemao are all junk.
The Hornet name was first used by Hudson, which became part of AMC, and it was a 308 ci straight six.
18% APR for a Charger..... #FOH not only is that piss poor financial advice, there's not a charger on the planet worth 18% APR .... Be an enthusiast, just don't be a dumb one