Monica Seles vs Martina Hingis 1998 US Open quarterfinals

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  • @LOrTnoK
    @LOrTnoK Před rokem +8

    Martina was my favorite player 20 years ago... But my heart was secretely in love with Monica. Now I definitely love Monica for all she's representing.
    Hingis will stay THE MAGICIAN of this time.
    And Seles will always be the GOAT. Very unique and special player. With a big scar in her back and in her heart. ❤️

  • @criotermic
    @criotermic Před 3 lety +12

    Monica..the greatest!!the only player with those angles, and that power!

  • @ipiap
    @ipiap Před 4 lety +7

    Hingis knows everything about tennis and exploits every little weakness of her opponent. But this match is really worth watching because of Seles. She has all the ideas.

  • @andrewmoores7166
    @andrewmoores7166 Před 9 lety +34

    Makes me realise how far backward women's tennis has gone when I watch a match like this. Great tennis.

    • @anthonymos185
      @anthonymos185 Před 6 lety +1

      It has? I only see improvement. The women are hitting deeper, harder, and more consistently than ever.

    • @aycaramba6225
      @aycaramba6225 Před 6 lety +5

      really ? where have you seen that? right now we only have erratic ball bashers and pushers but you might be watching some different wta.. pls share

    • @ralphbourgeois5875
      @ralphbourgeois5875 Před 5 lety +5

      @@aycaramba6225 The WTA continued to improve until 2007, hitting perhaps its all time height in the early 2000s. It has declined currently though. The current field is dire.

    • @fundhund62
      @fundhund62 Před 4 měsíci

      Same with men's tennis 🙈

  • @user-pp9uh8lx9f
    @user-pp9uh8lx9f Před 4 lety +8

    Monika should won this match,however angles aces accuracy fast returnes hard hits and mentally strenght are only hers

  • @shuraowen
    @shuraowen Před 8 lety +16

    This is crazy tennis. I feel so bad Monica retired at the age of 29. She could have played a lot longer, at least I wished...

    • @capitacaldera02
      @capitacaldera02 Před 4 lety

      Nadal could have retired because of a foot injury at the very beginning after the first Roland Garros. He found a solution

  • @shihlin1
    @shihlin1 Před 2 lety +3

    Dang, look how far inside the baseline Hingis is standing.
    Monica ain't playing patty-cake tennis yet Hingis is taking the ball so early.
    Hingis's mother strategy was to take time away from Monica by exploiting her slowed mobility. And it worked.

  • @Ricky-mo6mv
    @Ricky-mo6mv Před 3 měsíci +1

    2:19 This point is masterful by Monica. That drop shot hit on the rise to win the point is insane. I don’t how Monica did that on the regular 🤷‍♂

  • @bennettvideo1
    @bennettvideo1 Před 4 lety +4

    I remember being surprised how well Monica hit the ball in this match, given how much she struggled in her first 4 rounds. The weight gain since the French Open run was very evident. And yet a step slower she still gave the #1 a tough match.

    • @grantgoffin4774
      @grantgoffin4774 Před 2 lety +1

      I don't get how she gained so much weight. I heard Gavin lost interest in her by then and was more focused on forever overrated Philippoussis. Probably due to both being Australian.

    • @jujumusique1305
      @jujumusique1305 Před rokem

      @@grantgoffin4774that’s a pity. The level of fitness she had at the French that year was what she would have needed to stay injury free and sustain the level of play she displayed during the FO.

  • @diegogabri7316
    @diegogabri7316 Před 2 lety +1

    monica❤

  • @3883melange
    @3883melange Před 3 lety +2

    So good!!

  • @gregorymaiuri
    @gregorymaiuri Před 4 lety +3

    That point at 13:20 was nuts! 😳

  • @Ricky-mo6mv
    @Ricky-mo6mv Před rokem +1

    Seems Monica should have pulled this one out. She was surely hitting the ball well enough to do so. Alas, it still wasn’t the fearless and ruthless Monica of the early 90’s, so she came up short on this day.

  • @nnavaltaqc
    @nnavaltaqc Před 8 lety +4

    Seles' grunting makes her so exhausted

  • @ianwilliamson2980
    @ianwilliamson2980 Před 3 lety +2

    I thought Monica would win this but Martina is very smart on returns

  • @derhinko2359
    @derhinko2359 Před 7 lety +7

    Another great victory from the beautiful legend Martina Hingis

  • @lovemonicaseles
    @lovemonicaseles Před 7 lety +13

    Seles' hitting is just outstanding. Even with the extra weight. Gawd if she was fit back then

    • @markuse3472
      @markuse3472 Před 5 lety +1

      If-if-if-if-if-if-if...Did I miss an if? If Davenport didn't have extra weight, if Steffi hadn't had many knee/leg problems/operations, if Serena's breasts' weren't big, if-if-if-if-if-if: There, that should be all the if's.

    • @bear-ms3ms
      @bear-ms3ms Před 5 lety +2

      @@markuse3472 yeah, IF your darling hadn't had gunter...she hadn't had 5 slam less

    • @markuse3472
      @markuse3472 Před 5 lety

      @@bear-ms3ms"...she hadn't had 5 slams less"? Is English known to you? Regardless, history wont change: 22 Steffi GS, including 1 Golden Slam Year (no one else has done this), many touring titles. Seles less than half that. It wont change. I love Seles, but ever since last summer, I started noticing too much hate on Steffi and it made no sense. This is why I now make factual statements on these careers, and you sour grapes are mindless.

    • @arionassis-niarchos2895
      @arionassis-niarchos2895 Před 5 lety +1

      "IF your darling hadn't had gunter...she hadn't had 5 slam less">> LOL..how many slams simi- finals and finals did seles make upon her return to the game...and other wta events..
      she made 2 us open finals 95-96..99 semi-finals of the french..and I believe a semi-final or qtr-final of the aussie open not sure of the year.. ..she lost to graf both times in the us open..and the 99 french semi-final and beat graf in the aussie..stop making excuses for seles..she was able to play and win after her return to the game... given her height/weight at her peak ..I believe she's at least 2 inches taller than graf and weighed 10 pounds more during her peak years even then it was graf 3-2 over seles ..at seles's peak... it was clear seles would be a big woman...which would eventually affect her game... . as she became older...I believe they met 5 times after seles returned to the game..it's graf 4-1..it was graf 3-2 during seles peak..it's 10-5 graf over all...
      as for if..if..if..what about graf's family issues..and the german govt....considering filing tax evasion charges against her..as they did her father..sending him to jail..and the break up of her parent's marriage.....all this played out during seles's peak era...and beyond...not to mention..after the stabbing... graf getting death threats..some accusing her of knowing about the attack...etc.. this all played out in the public... the sele fans need to wake u from the seles if/if/if dream. .

    • @markuse3472
      @markuse3472 Před 5 lety

      @@arionassis-niarchos2895 Also, Sfeffi went through injuries. Seles fans are not tennis fans but fans of pop culture stupidity.

  • @aaron1983
    @aaron1983 Před 4 lety +6

    Two legends in the game. When mindless ball bashing wasn't yet a thing.

  • @ianwilliamson2980
    @ianwilliamson2980 Před 3 lety +1

    That was great match .I never realized Monica was five feet ten I thought she was quite small.

  • @zeddeka
    @zeddeka Před 4 lety +5

    To those commenting on Monica's weight - this was an issue that raised its head before the stabbing. I remember back in 1991, many in the press were pretty ungracious and commented on how Monica had put on weight. Monica herself at the time said she was "addicted to butter". We don't often understand just how stressful playing at the top of the sport it, and how it affects different players. With Monica, it seems she turned to comfort eating from a relatively young age.

    • @grantgoffin4774
      @grantgoffin4774 Před 2 lety +1

      Yes and when you combine her turning into an adult which she wasn't yet pre stabbing and growing into her body with the factors you said, and perhaps even more importantly that from 94-98 her dad being ill with cancer and having a long drown out, illness, and death, and I would say the chances of her not gaining a lot of weight are next to nil. Maybe without the stabbing she would be a bit less big, I don't know, but the delusions she would still be a stick figure are quite fantastic.

    • @whfan007
      @whfan007 Před rokem +1

      Please stop saying nonsense. By the time of the 1993 stabbing, Monica looked as thin as ever. She was not having problems with her weight.

    • @jamesyu5212
      @jamesyu5212 Před rokem

      @@whfan007 you're the one who is lying. By 1993 Australian open she was clearly gaining weight. Those loose shirts weren't giving you a clue? She wasn't overweight yet but she was heading there.

    • @jujumusique1305
      @jujumusique1305 Před rokem +1

      @@jamesyu5212she definitely looked much thinner in early 1993 than throughout 1991.

    • @jamesyu5212
      @jamesyu5212 Před rokem

      @@jujumusique1305 tf you on about. She's at least pudgy at the Australian open.

  • @user-pp9uh8lx9f
    @user-pp9uh8lx9f Před 4 lety +2

    In any case only Monica!

  • @johnfogelgren3190
    @johnfogelgren3190 Před 4 lety +3

    WHY would Seles be seeded #6 after making it to the finals of the French, the quarters at Wimbledon, and then winning the Canadian Open??

  • @shihlin1
    @shihlin1 Před 8 lety +15

    I miss these USA Network coverage of the U.S. Open evening matches, esp Ted Robinson and Tracy Austin as commentators, esp Ted's relaxed style complementing nicely with Tracy's informative analysis. ESPN just doesn't have the same quality or good commentators. Nowadays Pam Shriver should be thrown out of the booth, full of bias and BS----she's the worst.

    • @fjosephgonzales6870
      @fjosephgonzales6870 Před 8 lety

      I also loved Tracy and Ted as commentators. Virginia Wade is also very underrated because she's very tennis savvy, of course, and the same for Martina Navratilova. Even though Chris Evert was very likable on court, I think she is overrated as a commentator; I was always a big fan of her tennis but not necessarily of her tennis commentating (Chris is too by-the-numbers, says things you already know or are already thinking).

    • @enjangyusuf2ndchannel468
      @enjangyusuf2ndchannel468 Před 6 lety

      shihlin1 I am fully agree with you.

  • @andrewdelacruz2064
    @andrewdelacruz2064 Před 6 lety +6

    It's pretty obvious that Monica Seles was at her heaviest as seen here in the quarter finals of the US Open in 1998. Not only her mobility was hampered as a result of the access weight but she suffered various foot and knee injuries as a result of it.
    Had she not been stabbed and gained at least 30kgs during her forced 2 1/2 year break from tennis, she could have had least won 20-25 Grand Slams.

    • @enjangyusuf2ndchannel468
      @enjangyusuf2ndchannel468 Před 6 lety

      Monica would win so many grand slam indeed but not sure until 20.. because starting 1997 was year for hingis daveport and williams sisters... either monica and steffi were lost the.momentum in that periode. Steffi best result was winning FO 99 and Monica was runner up FO 98.

    • @markuse3472
      @markuse3472 Před 5 lety +1

      What a load of elephant droppings. No ones ever talked this same crap for Davenport: it is what it is. Her excess weight had Nothing to do with her not being able to win, nor her injuries. Hingis was simply better. Seles' time was up, paper cut to her back or not. Monica was never a fit athlete, and she looked almost the same throughout her career. Seles won what was supposed to be for her, no more no less.

    • @bear-ms3ms
      @bear-ms3ms Před 5 lety +1

      @@rolandgreen7484 monica under 20 years had won more than your darling, so say thanks to parke and go get rats

    • @bear-ms3ms
      @bear-ms3ms Před 5 lety +1

      @@markuse3472 monica under 20 years had won more than your darling, so say thanks to parke and go get rats

    • @markuse3472
      @markuse3472 Před 5 lety

      @@bear-ms3ms And then she was decent at best. Many, not only Seles, athletes accomplish outstanding things for a few years then they drop off to a degree. It happens to many and Seles was one of them. Steffi still has 22 GS and many touring titles, and that will never change. And one Golden Slam year. Seles will never ever have that, paper cut to her back or not.

  • @mechagojira6951
    @mechagojira6951 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Tu Cindy C for this great channel!!! I love the Swiss Miss and u have plenty of her matches. I miss the late 90's and players like Hingis who were so intelligent and competitive. Unfortunately for her this was the time where the women were 6' 2..6'3 compared to little Martina at 5'7" but Martina NEVER beat herself...you had to take her out. Still hurt seeing her lose to this day..wah wsh i know😂...she won 25 grand slam titles..of course combined singles mixed and doubles. She messed up in 2007 by them finding a metabolite of Cocaine in her test but a 2 year suspension!!!??? Wow... Lindsey Davenport who she is good friends w called it doping. Maybe it is if u fail any drug test in the WTA but doping to my small mind means what Lance Armstrong did or what Simona Halep ( allegedly) or Mark McGuire did taking steroids. Thats trying to gain an advantage toward ur sport. How is Martina doing a line of Cocaine doping????? Im 100% sure she wasnt using it b4 a match!!! Shes too smart for that and it sounds ridiculous. Yes it gives you energy but not so much in any sports related way imo.

    • @mechagojira6951
      @mechagojira6951 Před 9 měsíci

      Tu Cindy got the ❤️ and like....would u happen to have Swiss Miss ❤️ ❤️❤️❤️ matches on ESPN or Fox where its FULL matched cuz when the announcer says something interesting its cut off. If u do plz post...if not np and tu for ur time and effort!!!! Although I can do w/ o Pam Shrivers anti " I'm in love w Lindsey Davenport" Hingis takes....she has no class unlike her partner Mary Joe who is not only 😍 but never ages !!!!!!

  • @pankaja7974
    @pankaja7974 Před 2 lety +1

    I love Monica's game. Her weight is clearly hampering her movement and thus her ability to hit hard creating the angles. The women's game today is so boring. The last player I liked to watch was Justine Henin. Fortunately the Men's game is still very cool. Very very interesting players coming up in Men's game with Alcaraz, musetti, berretini, shapovalov and co.

    • @paigehere5176
      @paigehere5176 Před rokem

      Calling the women's game "boring" when we have Iga and Ons but naming Shapovalov and berrettini in the "very very interesting" category is certainly a choice.

  • @shihlin1
    @shihlin1 Před 8 lety +5

    Watching Hingis play, I'm constantly reminded to stay inside the baseline and look for opportunities to move forward to finish the point faster.
    Theoretically Seles should've won this match, but Hingis just kept Monica off balance by coming in to the net to finish points with volleys.

    • @DavidS-lg4dr
      @DavidS-lg4dr Před 5 lety

      It amazes me that Seles didn't beat Hingus more.. Yeah she could have been a little faster and fitter but Hingus showed she was really that good back then...elusively.. Everyone struggled to beat her because she anticipated and ran down everything..wearing them all down. I was a big Seles fan and the fact she wasn't like top 3 then shows how the level had increased big time by then. Being 6 was good though.. But Hingus was 1 for a reason

    • @ralphbourgeois5875
      @ralphbourgeois5875 Před 5 lety +1

      @@DavidS-lg4dr People have a misconception of Hingis today and say all the big hitters owned her. This isnt true, the only big hitter with a clear winning record against her is Davenport, and even that isnt total ownage, something like 10-7. She has a winning record vs Venus, and is only down 6-7 vs Serena. She has lopsided winning records vs not only Seles but Pierce as well. Granted if she kept playing after 2002 she probably has a more lopsided losing record to Serena, but still.

    • @shihlin1
      @shihlin1 Před 2 lety +1

      @@rolandgreen7484 Seles turned the tables on Hingis that 98 summer. Beat her two more times on hard courts after the French, that's why Seles was favored going into this match.
      Hingis being Hingis will always figure out a way to escape if you give her an opening.
      In their three outings before this match, Hingis was just overpowered.
      With this win Hingis seldom if at all lost to Monica again.

  • @Munkyjoe1
    @Munkyjoe1 Před 5 lety +7

    Seles was so heavy and out of shape. She was still a great ball striker, only if she was in better shape!

    • @bear-ms3ms
      @bear-ms3ms Před 5 lety

      What do you want here, steffanatic? Out of there, please, go on stef topic

    • @fuckurbody
      @fuckurbody Před 5 lety

      Jose Cardenas she had problems with binge eating i read somewhere. She struggled to get in shape & stayed fit post stabbing. Instead of fulfilling her potential as one of the all time greats, she stays in the woulda coulda shoulda forever & her fans would blame stabbing & steffi graf. Gurl bye 👋🏿

  • @markuse3472
    @markuse3472 Před 6 lety +1

    I don't agree at all that many make so many excuses for Seles not winning slams or other titles, saying she's overweight here. Monica has NEVER had a flat or athletic abdomen. She has always had a bit of extra weight in that area.

    • @bear-ms3ms
      @bear-ms3ms Před 5 lety +5

      monica under 20 years had won more than your darling, 8 slam and 3 masters. So, shut up and go get rats, thanks

    • @dissonantvibe8585
      @dissonantvibe8585 Před 5 lety

      @@bear-ms3ms , he made no statement of favoritism

    • @saintelmosfire85
      @saintelmosfire85 Před 5 lety

      @@dissonantvibe8585 No statement of favoritism? Markus E trolls Seles videos to spread hate & undermine her skills in defense of Graf. Saying Seles always had a bit of an extra weight in the abdomen is an imbecile observation; just like Markus E, Richard Ross, Ilya Kuryakin, Dustin Gabe and their kind. LOL!

    • @zeddeka
      @zeddeka Před 4 lety +1

      Its interesting you mention that - I remember the press in 1991 commenting in how she'd put on weight. I think we underestimate just how much stress the players go through, and they deal with in different ways. It seems Monica comfort ate at times.

  • @jonasprieto2845
    @jonasprieto2845 Před 3 lety +1

    Great Martina!

  • @desireeeliz4238
    @desireeeliz4238 Před 2 lety +1

    Seles is better when it comes to focus and concentration, she also has that peripheral vision and anticipation, the only problem is her footwork, she looks a bit sluggish that is difficult for her to chase the balls...

  • @fiancial
    @fiancial Před 4 měsíci

    Martin hingis guzel teniscilerin basinda gelir

  • @rattata30
    @rattata30 Před 5 lety

    Did Monica post stabbing, did she always made it to the quarterfinals of every tournament she entered?

  • @olaraay
    @olaraay Před 7 lety +4

    even if seles did win this match - i don't see her beating nototnva then davenport - her fitness would have been a huge factor

    • @FlabbyTitmuss
      @FlabbyTitmuss Před 6 lety

      Totally agree. She struggled with both Novotna and Davenport throughout her career so it seems unlikely she could beat both consecutively.

    • @DavidS-lg4dr
      @DavidS-lg4dr Před 5 lety

      Perhaps but I think she would have beaten Novotna maybe. She played very well in this match but Hingus just edged her out. Davenport wasn't nearly as good of a mover as Hingus though but could overpower

    • @dissonantvibe8585
      @dissonantvibe8585 Před 5 lety

      @@rolandgreen7484 , Venus was hardly the second favorite in this tournament

  • @Abhijitlrk
    @Abhijitlrk Před 4 lety +1

    Don't understand....why Seles... didn't killed on hingis' serve..

  • @spartyutube2020
    @spartyutube2020 Před 8 lety +4

    This is the last time you'll see Hingis's forehand like this. When she switched to the white Yonex the next year, her forehand turned weird, more Western and spinny, not throught the ball like here. I wonder what happened lol.

    • @allanpolicarpio1656
      @allanpolicarpio1656 Před 8 lety +1

      Wasn't this the same racquet she used in 1999 and early 2000? But yeah, Hingis used to flatten her forehand more, especially in 1997.

    • @dissonantvibe8585
      @dissonantvibe8585 Před 5 lety +1

      I never realized this was the trigger, but I knew her forehand was different. I think she changed it again in her first comeback

  • @habibamin469
    @habibamin469 Před 5 lety +1

    O i love martina hingis

  • @anonimushbosh
    @anonimushbosh Před 9 lety

    Who's Harry?

  • @kailengray2822
    @kailengray2822 Před 8 lety +1

    17 yrs old Martina looks not so different from now.

  • @gk891
    @gk891 Před 8 lety +2

    I wasn't a fan of Hingis and so I remember being disappointed when I saw this match and how it ended. This must've been even more disappointing for Seles after beating her twice that year.

    • @ralphbourgeois5875
      @ralphbourgeois5875 Před 5 lety +1

      Seles tanked the match since she knew no way was she beating Novotna in the semis then Davenport in the final, both who she has bad records against. So she just didnt bother and tanked to Hingis, as she was never winning those 3 straight matches anyhow.

    • @bear-ms3ms
      @bear-ms3ms Před 5 lety

      @@ralphbourgeois5875 What do you want here, steffanatic?

    • @dissonantvibe8585
      @dissonantvibe8585 Před 5 lety +1

      @@ralphbourgeois5875 , that's ridiculous

  • @whfan007
    @whfan007 Před 4 lety +2

    Looking at how Monica had extra weight pretty much all the time after the stabbing, It’s frustrating because she would have won many of these matches. She’s literally a step slower on every ball. Meanwhile in her 40s she looks so skinny. I guess when she cameback she never got over the stabbing and mentally/physically wasn’t as dedicated. She also wrote a book about how her depression caused her to over eat.