A Brief Retrospective | TV-Show Season 1 VS Comic Book | Differences Explained | The Walking Dead
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- čas přidán 16. 06. 2024
- Today at the Mystery Shack, we embark on a series of retrospective discussions about one of my favorite franchises of all time - The Walking Dead. We will be delving into the TV-show version and the respective comic book issues to compare how the adaption handled taking the panels into a live-action format. In today's video, we look at season 1 of the show and the corresponding issues, those being 1-9.
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0:00 Introduction
1:14 Season 1| Issues 1-9
31:45 Some Updates & Outro
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👋 Hiya, just wanted to respond to a few things I'm seeing repeadetly pop up in the comments.
1) The smart walkers being more intelligent due to their brains not being decayed. This is a very common misconception which doesn't really hold as soon as we see people turn later in the series - when a live person is bitten and they turn, their brains are obviously not decayed at all, yet they never show any signs of intelligence. Same goes for faster walkers - all of this is just down to the change in direction once Darabont was let go and they became more in line with how they act in the source material (i.e. slow and dumb).
2) The helicopter is the same one as the one crashing in Woodburry. In universe that _may_ be true, but I am very reluctant to say that it was planted there all the way back in the premiere when they had no clue whether the show would ever live past season 1. Though in the grand scheme of things it doesn't really matter either way - if it is the same, then I'd call it a retcon rather than planning in advance.
Those are the 2 common things I am seeing so far, so there's my take on them. Will keep updating this if I see anything else of interest.
Appreciate your comments btw ❤
The reason the walkers started running in season one was the brainchild of the creator of the television series the walking dead. Frank Darabont. He had an idea that zombies ran around and had some sort of memory or flashbacks, of their past lives! Frank said that would make the zombie world of the Walking Dead more immersive and dangerous, and much more dramatic, because in the beginning of TWD we see a lot more drama to the characters, due to the director/script writer of the series. after season 2, Frank was fired by AMC itself on account of spending cuts, so they took all the "vigor" from the series, to increase the episodes to have more profits and less expenses, which was obviously a stupid decision. He had the idea and the creation that France was the salvation of the world. The last remaining place, in Frank's mind, he wanted to make France a fresh start, a place where they were close to a "cure", remembering that there is no cure for WD-009 Wild fire. He is decisive. mutual. WD-009 is a space spore discovered by US space engineers (we know this from episode 9 of season 1 of TWD WB) which soon got out of control when it reached Earth. Soon the nations overcame the virus trying to fight it and the ally of the United States, France was intent on creating a vaccine or even containing the virus in some way.
Loved the video 😄
Any thoughts on the French's running walker revealed in the world beyond finale?
i agree with you (first point) but one could also argue that the walkers in season 1 were infected for less time.
As stated "everyones infected" and the longer that infection is on someone the dumber the walker they could become, And that the walkers in season 1 were all turned almost as soon as they got infected (within like a few month period ive honestly forgotten)
which could also explain why there havnt been any new special walkers, since everyone whose died from that point on have been infected for a few months + plus
Thats just my take on it, its definitly a plot hole that the writters wrote for lore and just quit on the topic before they dug themselfs into a rabbit hole of "how does that make sense"
@@genowoah maybe its conveniently tying up a loose end and covering that plothole in earlier seasons when walkers were faster and more intelligent are the new cohorts we will probably see in the rick films. Also of course i know this is probably just a biproduct of the showrunners wanting to make the zombies a threat again in TWD rather than just a background for human conflict. hopefully that will be quite interesting
I actually really like the CDC storyline. From my point of view, ending the first season with this part is a good way to say, There is no one coming, you are on your own. It gives this feeling of sadness and fear, and the fact that everyones decided to leave, thinking there is something that will save them show how the characters were back then.
I’d have to agree. Also, considering Shane is still alive and is at this point, Rick’s right hand man, I do believe adding in Tyrese at this time would have resulted in over character fever.
And I think what elevates the CDC for me is it’s connection to later seasons in seasons 2 and Negan’s introduction.
@@ryanelliott71698 when I first read the title for the episode “ The day will come when you won’t be” all I could think about is how beautiful of a callback that was
I think removing the cdc without killing shane off would've left the first season feeling anti-climactic. I generally liked the shows changes early on. As the show progressed I wish they'd have stuck closer to source material.
Exactly!!
Our survivors had to come to that realization that this is the world now.
There is no turning back to how things used to be.
I remember watching the very first episode back when it premiered on a Halloween night in 2010, I was so pumped because I loved zombie movies and video games, and now finally we were getting an actual tv show where the survivors had to survive day by day and deal with new threats along the way, whereas in the zombie movies, the survivors only survive through one major incident and move on into the undead world never to be seen again with their future being up in the air.
I like that it also shows Rick's and eventually the others will to continue living even though there isn't a future in sight. It's all based on hope and will to live with the knowledge that there is likely nothing at the end of their journey.
Things were sped up in the comics anyway because Kirkman has said he only thought he'd get like a 6 issue run! jokes on him 193 issues later lol. He was thrilled with the show drawing things out like Shane. I'm so glad it got the show to "fix" the rushed feel of the first issues of the comics which are still top notch any way it goes
he wanted to hit the 300 mark and kinda up set how he ended it
@@cartoonhistory353 he said 200 was his goal so im forever baffled and wondering why he ended so close to it. In letter hacks he always excitedly mentioned 200….wtf happened that he’d stop 7 issues short??
@@vonniestewart4416 Kirkman has a HUGE problem with ending his stuff. Invincible had the exact same thing happen, the end just randomly got announced and then rushed out. No idea if he just gets bored and wants to move on or whatever but he so far seems to suck at his endings. Shame cos usually its the only downside to his stories.
@@Azazreal still better than AMC milking the ever living fuck out of TWD and turning it into a shell of itself. Kirkman said in his closing for TWD he realized that towards the end it was becoming filler and rather than milk the series he gave it an end. Mad respect for Kirkman doing the right thing.
@@Azazreal At least he finishes. My dumbass is still waiting on two more Ice and Fire books
Hard to imagine The Walking Dead has been running for this long. Felt like just the beginning of a summer I started with season 1.
Yeah, its crazy! 11 years already....
Oh god, 11 years!? Dam time flies.
The last time I was in Amsterdam was new years 10/11, I was 25 I didn't know about the comic but I had heard about the show.. 1st of January I'm sitting at a friend of a friend's house just knocked out from the night before, we get some junk food, smoke some joints, play some xbox and then he goes.. "hey did you see the walking dead yet?" I'm like "no, I love zombies but I'm not sure I'm up for a whole show of them.." He goes " watch one episode" .. I'm go "fine" kinda annoyed as I was enjoying whatever we where playing.. We watch it.. And as soon as the Glenn says hey dumbass, comfy in there? I was in hooked...
I finished the show when I got home then the never ending wait for the second season started.. I watched all the way to the finale, and that's the day I got into the comics.. Ever since then I've been all in on walking dead media, comics, show, games, books.. (except fear and world beyond, I could never get into another show)
@@mullaoslo almost same scenario for me, my friend told me about the show when I was 12
I remember hearing about AMC about to air a series based off of a comic book I had read just a few years earlier , I was actually very surprised and excited for the outcome …
Walking dead tv series was better than the comics IMO
I like the semi intelligent zombies for the 1st season because it makes it feel like the zombies brain’s have not yet fully deteriorated so they still of some semblances of their former self.
Exactly and now variant walkers are the virus mutating after so long
100% this. They were so fresh that they held onto lingering parts of their humanity until their brains rotted to pure instinct
what about the rest of the season then? new walkers r still unable to do anything.
May also lend some credence to Milton experimenting on recently turned walkers. Maybe the walkers did originally hold on to some semblance of their past. Morgan's wife is another example. You don't usually see walkers try to return to their house and open the door
Same. I loved first season zombies
“I never wanna see any sorta special zombies”
Season 11C: *allows us to introduce ourselves*
it finally sorta paid off and makes sense now lol
Season 11 walkers are literally just season 1 walkers
"What the fuck?!"
Made me spit my drink out laughing lol so true
I feel that not refering to them as zombies helps separate it apart from all other zombie TV shows and movies. If you say zombies to me is think of zombie land or something, of you say walkers I immediately jump to walking dead.
Exactly. Calling them zombies just makes it sounds boring
@@gravybate2283 you haven't watched enough zombie media. I'm sick of "infected, shambler, biter, rotter, moaner, etc" just call them zombies.
@@citizenvulpes4562 walkers are way cooler imo
Besides the whole thing here is that zombies are supposed to not be a thing in TWD universe; what I mean is that the characters are supposed not know what these things are. Calling them zombies would imply they already know zombie rules
@@citizenvulpes4562 so your sick of different creative words to describe them but zombie doesn’t bore you? The most basic word used?
the revolver felt like establishing Rick as the sheriff no matter where he went or who was in charge. He was the leader always and had a worst time submitting to anyone. He was very judgmental of the governor for his dissent in to madness while he was and would continue to experience.
Good analysis!
His line at the end of season 2 should have been a hint as to what was to come for Rick’s character and how he would have to be the one brave enough and smart enough to lead the group.
“This is not a Democracy anymore”
it's also used as a metaphor for his extremely violent and brutal survival instincts when he's backed into a corner multiple times.
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i think his hat did that job. that's y he passes it on to carl, then Shane's daughter gets the hat at the end.
the revolver keeps his authority within his own group but when hes fighting others, he uses whatever weapon is available. his hat is the symbol to maintain order in all the mayhem, and the bad guys see him as bad, while the good guys see him as good....bcoz of the sheriff hat.
I actually like the CDC storyline. The revelation that they're all infected is handled much better in the show than in the comics in my opinion. I agree however that they could have made it a lot more ambigious whether or not there's still a government out there, trying to fix the apocalypse
Haven't read the comics. That said, I liked the CDC story in the show. That might be down to the phenomenal acting by Dr. Brenner's actor (I can't recall it atm). He did a great job of crystallizing the world: everything before the outbreak is gone and will never return, humanity having suffered a Biblical Flood type of apocalypse. Whatever society emerges afterward will be fundamentally different from what came before. To the people too weak or unwilling to see that transition, he offers a simple, pain-free way out.
The message was clear. Season 1 was transitioning the characters away from modern civilization and into a new era for humanity. Ways will be changing and futilely clinging to the "old way" will only get people hurt.
Not all of them are here on CZcams but the majority are. I'm not a comic person. But I HIGHLY recommend seeking them out and watching. It's almost like a whole other version. Very interesting.
I feel the CDC is a great plotpoint to eventually use, but it feels rushed when they use it so early. In the comics there is a natural progression in terms of stakes for the survivors, like, first a camp outside Atlanta, then a gated community, then a farm, then a prision, then a whole town, then a commonwealth of towns, then a reconstruction government of the US.
The CDC would have been great for a later season, bc otherwise it feels like the survivors peaked, got disapointed, and went downhill, instead of going the ups and downs, thinking they peaked, and going back to hardship empty handed
His name is Noah Emmerich
TWD Telltale series does actually use the word "Zombie" at least once, its in season 1 when Lee says "The keys must be on that zombie out on the street"
I definitely wish they still had Frank Darabont through the whole series, I feel like it was never what it could be and I think he understood that.
I feel like shane was alot better in the tv show because he had more time to interact with the characters and his death was a whole lot better than the comics version of it
11:40 In the novelisation 'Rise of The Governor" which Kirkland co-wrote, there are a few references to muscle-memory, such as one former police officer walker recognising a pistol being pointed at it. Decent book, worth a read.
That was a very good book.
It's the only one of the novels that I finnished.. Great to get some back story on the governor and some of it was hinted at in the show
I read the first two, barely remember the second though, but the first book was great from what I can remember.
The very first Romero Zombie was already special; the one on the cemetery chasing Barbar. He not only shuffles rather fast, but when Barbar gets into the car, also _turns_ around away from her to pick up a rock in order to bash in the driver's window.
they could’ve made it that fresh walkers could retain some unique stuff
@@flacobrian3754 fr, but I like to think to my self that there’s some sort of variant of the virus, so only a small percentage could still have the ability to speed walk or climb. But thankfully the fast walkers are returning although it doesn’t really make sense now since how they are decade and stuff.
At least for me, I like the idea that the walkers had some semblance of intelligence and complex thought as well as those memories from before they were zombified, the scene with the little girl zombie picking up the bear was a pretty good one, as was Morgan’s wife attempting to open the door. I wish we got more of that.
Yes, 100%. I think if they would have kept it, the later seasons would be much scarier and fun.
@@annaz2349They did bring it back in the last season, in one of the last few episodes, where walkers start climbing up stuff like they did in the second episode and opening doors like Morgan's wife tried to do.
But they haven't done anything with it in the spinoffs so far. 🤷♀️
@@CanItAlready
Something I immediately noticed was that one character said something along the lines of “you got roamers, lurkers and now climbers”
Okay, while roamers and lurkers are heavily emphasised in the comic I don’t remember the show ever bothering with such a distinction before or after that moment
Fun fact: the song played at the end of the pilot is called Space Junk. Kind of funny to note now considering the space spore tweet and the lack of for-shadowing about aliens.
“Don’t open dead inside” door is a reference to the gated residence that the group goes to in the comics before they come across Hershel’s farm :3
i think the more seasonal shifts would've helped the show's longevity a bit from keeping things feel like they're so stagnant for so long.
I remember one walker jumping over a fence like he was running away from the cops 😂🥴
I guess the cdc story line kind of was a stand in for the wilkshire estates one bc they both ended up staying a night in peace, thinking it was going to be a good place to stay and in the end finding out it isn't safe and losing one of the own (donna/Jacque)
Huh interesting. Never really though about it that way
It is interesting to note that in the comic universe Brian "The Governor" Blake saves Rick and the others at Wiltshire Estates as he is the one that left the sign that Rick spots outside the gate. This is seen in the novel Rise of the Governor and something I always found amusing since the pair would later become bitter enemies.
I agree. It’s a really great novel. 👍
I love the connections between the novel and comic book and the world that Robert Kirkman. Telltale’s Walking Dead included.
@@crusader2112 when should I read it? I’m currently reading through the compendiums and just finished the first ones (Rick and Carl just escaped the prison)
@@joshcrook6975 Probably. After the Prison Arc, so perfect timing, but I don’t think there’s one correct time when to read the books. Hope you had a Merry Christmas and Have a Happy New Year. Peace. ✌🏻
You might be looking at the helicopter the wrong way. They might not have created the CRM and said "Let's put a helicopet in S1E1", they probably put a Helicoper in episode 1 for whatever reason, and then they realized they had to relate it to something later on.
I think it was supposed to relate to the Season 2 that Frank Darabont had imagined. He wanted to follow a specific soldier who was defending Atlanta with a battalion of Rangers who were rushed out of Ft. Benning Georgia. He wanted to show the fall of Atlanta and the later firebombing. I believe the helicopter was supposed to foreshadow that arc in some way.
More than likely just Army/Marine Corps/National Guard that either deserted their post when things started going real wonky or were just the last of their unit. More than likely the latter two since the Huey and its variants were being phased out of the Army by 2009. I doubt the military would be wiped out 100%. There would definitely be scattered remnants of varying sizes.
@@heroinboblivesagain5478 that's what I always thought
Agreed. I def think the helicopter was a red herring in ep 1 and was taken as inspiration later. It’s not impossible to think the writers look at past seasons and storylines to think of new material.
I think it was like a false hope thing to make us think oh later the military will be found etc or that the gov was still alive and then the later CDC storyline had more anticipation like oh yeah there was a helicopter so maybe it’s still up and running etc
@@heroinboblivesagain5478 "There would definitely be scattered remnants of varying sizes."
Its rumoured that the cites that make up the CRM, actually magnead to hold the cities and beat the walkers becasue of the heads up from a bunch of personal retreating. So they weren't caught off guard.
Plus in FTWD, the army and navy were fighting each other, so whats left of the US gov probably retreated to hawaii and the rest of the soldiers on the mainland declared the civic republic
I like Rick having two signature weapons, his revolver and hatchet so I’m glad he has both in the show
Fun fact, the help in season 1 over Atlanta is olive drab in color. Like a UH-1H, which was probably the soldiers that crashed later on near “the governor”. The helo’s the com use are solid black and shaped more like a jet ranger, more modern civilian type rotorcraft.
Yeah I was surprised this guy didn't remember that
The end of season one was the single most impactful moment in television history. I mean… holy cow.
So fun fact, the vatos groups deleted cutscene was meant to be a foreshadowing to the governor, as we know he was one to kill other gangs
“I never want to see any sort of smart zombie”
Season 11: well well, then I have something for you
This was a great video, hoping for more on the rest of the series!
Also, if I’m not mistaken I think Rick’s hatchet did eventually get introduced in season 6 (episodes 8 and 9) and then was used sometimes from that season until season 9, but yeah it was definitely not his “iconic weapon” in the series, gotta love the Python!
Indeed, it does appear! But as you said, it's not really as synonymous with the TV version of Rick as it is with the comic version. I kind of felt that it's more so a wink at the comic book fans.
Also thank you for the nice words, glad you enjoyed it :)
Personally I believe the walkers using objects in season 1 can be written off as the walkers not having their brains super decayed and having a minor amount of intelligence and how they even seemed to shuffle faster
One of them vaulted over a fence....vaulted!
If that was the case the newly turned walkers of later seasons would be like that too
@@Big-BossX correct me if I’m wrong but we don’t really get to see enough screen time if recently turned walkers in the later seasons since they’re put down immediately without giving us time to see if they have those higher motor functions still
@@Big-BossX they even explained it in the cdc, the brain "melts" down after death until only a small part is left which means even if they are already in the "zombie undead mode" they might not have been decayed enough to lose those other things like picking up items yet.
@@jamoin8062 I dont think thats the case. Its probably just a design choice that they decided to change walker behaviour. Although the after credits scene from world beyond might prove us wrong
13:04 it was implied to be the same military helicopter that the Governor later on finds.
Indeed, though as I said in the video, I don't know how reasonable it is to assume it was planned 2 seasons in advance when they didn't have any idea whether the show would ever live past the first season.
In universe, it works, but realistically - not sure.
It's great seeing places I've actually been in twd as I live in middle Georgia, been to Woodbury more times than I can count
I remember being a young 11 year old when I was obsessed with zombies in both movies and video games and I found a CZcams video of Rick shooting the zombie girl at the beginning of the series, I remember being shocked to my core, I’d never seen anything so disturbing at that point, as such it’s been burned into my mind ever since.
While I prefer the comics over the show, I do think Shane's story was a bit rushed. However I think his story in the show was too dragged out. If season 2 was a tad shorter I think it could've been better
I remember doing a rewatch last year and skipped episodes 4-6 and it immensely helped my enjoyment of season 2. So you’re right about that. About 3 episodes shorter and it would have been a really great season.
I honestly think Shane wasn’t in the show for long enough. But there was really no way him and Rick could’ve co-existed for any longer
@@sayhello2heaven_ skipping every past the first in season one and skipping a few episodes per season is really the only way to watch (and enjoy) the show past initial airing
The "Space Spore" Zombie origin could be a reference to the Zombie origin from the original Night of the Living Dead. In that movie it's theorized that the Zombies were created by some form of cosmic radiation that was picked up by a returning satellite.
7:49 great video so far cant believe you left out that beautiful small detail of when rick is forced under the tank with no where to go , he puts the gun to his head and says laurie and carl im sorry . Just to look up right before pulling the trigger and find the opening . That was the scene that truly hooked me
"I never want to see any kind of special zombies again"
Oh you must have hated season 11
I've honestly been waiting for a video comparison/review series like this for so many years that I considered making it myself, but just never had the motivation to re-read and re-watch a franchise that I've already spent the majority of my life so heavily involved with (comic fan since 2004, age ten).
Excellent work, does not disappoint.
I love the thought of the “special” zombies. The reason we don’t see these types of zombies (where they remember a bit of their past) was because zombies past season 1 have deteriorated so far EVERY bit of those memories are gone.
In reality it's because Frank Darabont was fired after season 1.
Thats the canon reason but its because the S1 director was let go
But what about people who are later bit?
@@LegoShay the disease has already mutated/degraded at that point? idk man tough to justify.
Honestly, removing that removed the horror from the show. It makes sense to have the degrading of the body and brain causing the less "human" interactions of the zombies. But once it got to something like Season 3, I realized how unrealistic many of the deaths were now. Season 1 zombies having some form of intelligence, returning to their homes, opening doors, looking into peepholes (I specifically use Morgan's wife as an example because she is ALMOST human and it is terrifying) and performing actions that seem nearly human. Once we have now been years into the apocalypse and everyone has been surviving, many deaths are now ridiculous. There is very little reason anyone should be dying and it makes the repetitiveness of the zombies and the conflicts involving them more apparent. I will not believe that someone can be snuck up on by something dragging it's ankles through the grass and branches and moaning, but many have died this way in the show in the later seasons. Then, of course, there's the repetitiveness of the situations. We have found a place to live, now a horde attacks. Everyone dies but a core few of the group.
Damn “a day will come where you won’t be” was such an awesome touch that I didn’t even pick up on till just now.
I thought people agreed to make the helicopter be that national guard helicopter that crashed in season 3? Or whatever season it is.
I also heard a theory that this is just a whole Comatose nightmare dream thing and the helicopter is in fact the helicopter that brought Rick to the Atlanta hospital,
One fun fact about the zombies in the first issues is that some of them were based on members of a web forum that artist Tony Moore was a part of back then. People would post their pictures and Tony would make them zombies.
I interpreted the "special" zombies as being part of the perpetual question of whether or not the old person they used to be is still in there. I like Wendigoon's interpretation that, at least in a metaphorical sense, the characters are similar to the walkers in that as they continue to roam about the desolate wasteland, small pieces of themselves begin to chip away until they are empty shells of who the used to be, becoming monsters who are driven only by survival... or hunger. The walkers still having echoes of who they used to be every now and then are meant to reflect who the characters need to become in order to stay alive.
It's really unbelievable that you aren't a bigger channel, very good video my friend
This video is gonna blow up out of nowhere sometime in the future.
I think your comment is true. I went from never hearing about his channel, to having it recommended over and over and over. And finally here I am lol
@@hollyking8626 same with me. I forgot to subscribe the first time I saw this but it kept popping up in my recommended
Korotos: I don't wanna see any special Zombies.
Me: Yeah uh, World Beyond and Season 11 part 3 wants to talk to you.
Brilliant retrospective! Literally just discovered your channel an hour ago as I have spent years looking for CZcams content on the 100 that isn't made by teenagers crushing on characters because the 100 is surprisingly deep and their is a lot worth talking about, both positive and negative so it's much appreciated considering it's my favourite series.
I too have watched every season of the walking dead and am a big fan of the comics and I like how you are also doing a retrospective comparing the 2 media season by season, so much happens I think a lot of people will be interested in it, I certainly am and I have now subscribed 🙂
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it! Welcome aboard :)
Fun fact in the comics Rick is actually from Cynthiana Kentucky but in the show he’s from King County Georgia
you making these videos this in depth just earned you a new follower friend great video
Me: So did Rick get his hand chopped off yet?
Friend who watches show: What?! When does this happen?
Me: In the prison?
Friend: I'm past the prison.
Me: How disappointing...
Disapointing is a pretty accurate word to describe TWD post season 2.
@@BigTorr704 Not really, imo i think 3-6 are the best seasons
@@mikeamber2528 What I meant by my first comment is that it’s a shame how the show fell flat after a couple of seasons when it could have been up there with breaking bad and game of thrones.
@@BigTorr704 Yeeeaahhh....I don't think GOT is something a show should aspire to be.
I get your point, though. Shame the show dropped in quality.
I’m pretty sure it’s been confirmed that Kirkman actually regret doing that in the comic and in the show decided to change it and it additionally would’ve cost a lot and probably wouldn’t have been CGIed very well to have Andrew Lincoln one handed for the rest of the show lololol I mean in the later seasons where Rick is standing on the trash piles w jadis I remember how bad the CGI so I can’t imagine earlier seasons lol
This might be kinda weird but I like that random helicopter in the beginning in Atlanta. I like it if it’s not connected to crm or whatever on later seasons. It makes it more random and strange in this apocalypse world
Thank you so much for showing clips of Jackie from season 1.
Thanks for he hard work on this video series. Love them!
This is an awesome video. Can’t wait to watch the other ones!
I remember my siblings,mother, and myself all gathering in the living room to watch the 1st season premiere of TWD like it was yesterday. Man time flies.
I will love you forever if you do this with the telltale adaptation
I think with motifs like the helicopter the idea is that there are in fact other survivors with complex machinery and specialized skills (like a pilot), which lends hope to the idea that there can be a cure and a giant faction that can rebuild civilization. The point of which is to make the CDC reveal more heart breaking, saying doom means a lot more if hope is crushed.
I think the Season 1 'special' zombies' disappearance can be explained through the decomposition of the walkers' brains over time. Could be wrong tho
So, I live in South Carolina and during one of the comicon events back in 2014 I got to meet the actors of Tyrese and the Prison Inmate Tiny. They were both really nice guys and super chatty and funny. In addition, three of my classmates from my university were extras as walkers in S3. They said the makeup was ungodly in the humidity and heat during the summer, but it was a blast. Getting to have those interactions are some of my favorite memories of TWD.
this video was really good thanks for making it
i was recently rewatching and howled at the zombie jumping the fence and running at the gang.
Morgan explained that his wife must have still had some memories of her old life
I’m sure it’s been pointed out, but Kirkman’s “space spore” answer would be a call back to the previous game-changing zombie property, Night of the Living Dead. Kirkman clearly knows his zombie history; a shame the narrator here doesn’t.
It would be interesting if they said later on that the walker with The Rock was actually a whisperer and was leading The horde into the building I just think that'd be pretty cool
the space spore tweet was a reference to "the night of the living dead"
I love that Kirkman eventually turned the "zombies brought on by Aliens" joke into a spinoff for Skybound X. Rick Grimes 2000 is a great story that deserved a longer run.
Also, there's a simpler explanation for the helicopter in season 1: It was from the national guard group The Governor kills in Season 3. They had at least 1 working helicopter, since both the Woodbury survivors and Andrea/Michonne see it crash, and the pilot was one of them.
Great video, deserves a lot more views. Also, thanks a lot for talking about the comics, knew nothing about them
I always thought of the helicopter from season 1 being the military group that was in a helicopter in season 3 that the governor found.
You recommended it and now I'm ready, my walking dead journey begins with this video
great video love the analysis
Just found this series and mannn. A few years back i can’t remember what channel it was tried doing a similar thing but only made it up to like season 2 and i was really let down. Im so excited to get caught up in yours and hope so much that you see it through to the end
A little late here, but I just found your vids on TWD. I dropped off around season 7, so seeing all of these comparisons is pretty cool.
I liked the CDC conclusion in the First Season. It cements the hopelesness of the setting.
underrated man, i hope you go viral
Excellent video, thank you!
I can't wait until the last episode where Rick wakes up in the hospital surrounded by his wife, Shane and Carl and realizes it was all a dream while he was in a coma.
Wish we got to see the Vatos Gang in season 2 and actually get to know what had happened
Deleted scene shows they were all killed by walkers
One thing I loved about Wiltshire estates was the “all dead do not enter” sign. It was left by the governor himself in his origin story novel!!
Just discovered this series and am rewatching it. Please tell me more episodes of this are coming. Your retrospectives are phenomenal
Aye! More season 8 coverage drops next week and were going right up until the end! 👍
“I’m doing stuff Lori…thaaaangs…”-Rick Grimes
I think the "hyper intelligence" in the few zombies of season 1 is to show how right at the very beginning the zombies were still somewhat human, everyone didn't completely consider them fully dead and a few kept their conscious sort of, they also move just a little bit faster and look a bit more human in the first 2 seasons. As the show progresses the zombies decay more and become less human, more slow, and more one with nature and less of an issue for the people. The issues go from surviving zombies to surviving people to surviving the elements and rebuilding
But the problem with that is later on there are not just these old zombies people get turned later on and don't show these signs of intelligence
@@TheMordecai13 It could be something that doesn't happen all the time, but 1 out 100 walkers retain some faint muscle memory from their former life for a while.
@@TheMordecai13 Spoiler warning ⚠️ if you haven’t watched twd world beyond
In the post credits of word beyond a scientist in France gets shot and turns into one of the smart walkers that were in season 1. My guess is the smart walkers were a variant of the virus that died off quickly, but is resurfacing again. It could possibly be that the smart walker variant died off in some places like America but lived in other parts of the world like France possibly because of different climates, or it could’ve just died off but the original variant (slow dumb walkers) mutated back into the smart walker variant later on. I’m 99% sure that the smart walkers were originally a design choice that got scrapped in favor of the dumb walkers but I think this might be how they fit it into the lore and bring it back to the show.
The scientist in France could possibly just be sort of a homage to season 1 and the scene actually took place early in the outbreak, and doesn’t really mean anything but I doubt they would just do that.
“I never want to see any special zombies” (12:13)
This part didn’t age well lol
In the TV show, the word “zombie” is used maybe twice throughout the entire run time
As someone who is doing a re read of the books, and introducing my friend to the show for the first time, this is a great video series to find. Can’t wait till you get to All Out War and the first major time skip.
i think this is my comfort video / series
12:40 that right there is a gold edit, I laughed so hard
@12:00 you forgot to mention the walker that scaled a 3 metre tall fence to get rick and glen in atlanta when they were grabbing the truck from the construction site
The best thing in either version is in the later issues of the comic when it's a post-apocalyptic western with the zombies playing the role of cattle. This era also produced the best stories because westerns inevitably turn into morality tales, and those issues are no exception.
Now something I noticed. In the episode where the walker has the rock and you can see a walker climbing the ladder behind glen and Rick. What’s crazy is it doesn’t happen again until the very end of season 11 where they notice the walkers are climbing and using weapons. My theory is this. Bare with me. The walkers who are used to being in towns eventually learned to climb and utilize weapons. The walkers in the fields and on roads never needed to because the constantly are walking. Or another theory is the walkers that are semi fresh still have those abilities. I could be just making things up but I got to episode 23 in season 11 and saw that then started over to see if I can catch anything and saw that.
In the book "Rise an fall of the governor ".that estate is where he was held up with his brother.His brother died there an he made the sign that said there was dead in the estate.
OMG TAHNK YOU!!!!! I WAS WATCHING THE CINEFIX VIDS AND ITS SO COOL THAT YOU MADE TEH FULL SERIES
Haha, I haven't _quite_ made the full series just yet - seasons 10 & 11 are still a WIP (yes, it's been like 3 years 😂)
_Also the first videos are very bad, but they get better, promise_ 😅😅
@@Koroto theyre awsome dude and its nice to see someone finish what they started👍👍
thanks for this amazing video
Tbh the Pilot is probably the most perfect pilot, if not one the most pefect tv show episodes
also love how he eventually got his hatchet
12:30 welp looks like we getting fast zombies in the end lmao
Weird how it took so many years for them to tie variant walkers and the helicopters back into things canonically
Take a drink every time he says "adaption"
bro i wasn't expeting the differences to be this big, very interesting watch
Good video friend, I love both the show and the comics, its good to see someone doing a side by side comparison of the TWD 🤟🏾🔥........... And yes you should do a Telltale version to, considering the Telltale games are apart of the same universe as the comics.
12:04 , also the zombie that climbed over the fence to chase Glen and Rick into the car.