THRANDUIL: The Elvenking's Complete Journey Through The Ages | Lord of the Rings Lore
Vložit
- čas přidán 24. 07. 2024
- Embark on an epic journey through the life of Thranduil, the enigmatic Elvenking of the Woodland Realm, as we explore his saga from J.R.R. Tolkien's rich Middle-earth legendarium. This comprehensive video delves into Thranduil's origins in the mystical forests of Doriath, his leadership in the War of the Last Alliance, and his pivotal role during the events of "The Hobbit" and beyond.
-----
Timecodes:
00:00 - Introduction to the Life of Thranduil:
01:00 - Early Years (Years unknown, likely First Age):
03:01 - End of the First Age (c. 590 - 587 B.C.):
04:19 - Second Age: Establishment in Greenwood (Years uncertain):
05:17 - War of the Last Alliance (S.A. 3430 - 3441):
06:43 - Third Age - Reign as King:
08:58 - T.A. 2941 - The Hobbit Events:
13:04 - T.A. 3019 - War of the Ring:
15:16 - Fourth Age:
16:48 - Conclusion:
-----
Also check out our other channels!
► The 6th Ranger - / @the6thranger
► The Batcave - / @thebatcave111
► History of Dragon Ball - / @historyofdragonball
► The Tabletop Alliance - / thetabletopalliance
-----
If you want to support the channel, you can help us via Patreon.
► / thebrokensword
-----
Social media links -
► Facebook - / thebrokenswordyoutube
► Twitter - / thebroken_sword
► Instagram - / thebroken_sword
---
A massive shout-out to Brandon for help in penning the script for this video! bratya_nobles
---
🌟 What You'll Discover:
Thranduil's early years in the First Age and his upbringing in Doriath.
His transition during the catastrophic War of Wrath and the migration to Greenwood the Great.
Thranduil's ascension as the Elvenking, and his strategic rule in the Second and Third Ages.
His crucial involvement in "The Hobbit" events, including the Battle of Five Armies.
Thranduil's leadership during the War of the Ring and his contributions to the Fourth Age.
--------
We do not claim to own the rights to any of the artwork used throughout this video. All credit must go to the talented artists. If we have not credited an artist, it is because we could not find an owner of the art. Please message us if we have not credited you!
If any artists would like us to remove their artwork, or add anything additional to credit you, please contact us and we will sort it straight away! Thank you!
CK Goksoy - www.artstation.com/ckgoksoy
Ivan Cavini - www.ivancavini.com
Ted Nasmith - www.tednasmith.com
KipRasmussen - www.deviantart.com/kiprasmussen
RalphDamiani - www.deviantart.com/ralphdamiani
Matthew Stewart - www.matthew-stewart.com/middle...
Anato Finnstark - www.artstation.com/anto-finns...
Illustrator Fabio Leone - www.Facebook.com/IllustratorFabioLeone
Art in order of first appearance:
The Hobbit Trilogy - New Line Cinema
Young Thranduil Design - Brilcrist
Map of Beleriand During The First Age - JRR Tolkien
Eru and the Gods Singing the First Song of Creation - KipRasmussen
Young Thranduil - evankart
Thranduil - NaSyu
Ruins of Doriath - PeteAmachree
The Hobbit - Thranduil - anima-08
Thranduil's Halls - John Howe
Oropher King of Greenwood - alystraea
Thranduil the Elvenking - Yuuza
Thranduil, the Elvenking - MoshYong
Elfs of the last alliance - tiamatnightmare
The Beginning of an End - jyongyi
Thranduil - OrenMiller
Thranduil - FangWangLlin
Elven Hall - Turner Mohan
Thranduil - ultramarineandwhite
Thranduil - Lhax
Thranduil - Jerry Vanderstelt
Thranduil the Woodland King - HRFleur
King of Mirkwood - SnellSnail
Mirkwood Family Sketch - Kinko-White
Thranduil and his wife - alystraea
The Hunter - SaigaTokihito
Legolas - Esther Schrader
Gollum's Journey Commences - Benef
The Lord of the Rings Trilogy - New Line Cinema
Middle Earth - Klaradox
Battle Under The Trees - Jesse Van Dijk
Wrath of Galadriel - ZyrexTheZ
Celeborn to Dol Guldur - Moumou38
Thranduil - Candra
At Beorn's House - Ivan Cavini
Thranduil - Simaell
King Thranduil - Lourdes Velez
The Grey Havens - Matthew Stewart
Thranduil Hobbits fanfart - narrator366
The Stones of Lasgalen - Helesssart
Thranduil - SpartanK42
King Thranduil - fromKITnoc
Thranduil - onisakiakika
Reflections before the Battle - Candra
Uncover the untold tales of Middle-earth with our in-depth exploration of Thranduil's life, from his earliest years to his enduring legacy. Join us on this incredible journey through Tolkien's world! 🌍✨
------
All content falls under fair use: any copying of copyrighted material done for a limited and “transformative” purpose, such as to comment upon, criticize, or parody a copyrighted work. Such uses can be done without permission from the copyright owner.
In the event I use art of yours or you have any questions, please contact me and we'll get it sorted straight away! :)
.
.
.
#LordoftheRings #thranduil #tolkien - Zábava
🤔 Question of the Day 🤔
What do you think Legolas was doing during the events of The Hobbit?
He was protecting his homeland, I think.
I would like to think Legolas was maybe off with Aragorn on some bit of business devised by Gandalf. 😊
If you watch Peter Jackson’s fan film you will get your answer
@@Debba521 Aragorn would have been waaay too young for that to be a thing at the time. Aragorn was 10!
I think Legolas remained in the Woodland Realm as regent . Thranduil was deeply affected by the tragic events of the War of the Last alliance where his father died and most of his army never made it back to the Woodland Realm.
Imagine how pissed Aragorn must have been. Walked 900 miles with Stinker just for Thuranduil to just let him escape.
Almost like he had the patience of a proper ruler
I kid...great comment :)
Not really what happened, Thranduil did kept Gollum as a prisoner very well until a surprise attack from Orcs from Dol Goldur came to attack them in Thranduil’s very own kingdom, the elves win this battle of course but this attack was only a mere distraction for Gollum to escape, maybe Sauron still needed use for him to find the Ring and whatnot so not really Thranduil’s fault he did what he could but in the end it wasn’t enough for Gollum still managed to escape during this ordeal
Thranduil has always been one of my favorite characters. Lee Pace owned that character. Very Tragic story. I know he got some serious pstd seeing his father die and why he was so protective of his elves.❤🙏✌️
Yes 👍🏽
I'm still wishing for a Thranduil stand-alone movie.
Me too!
Your love of Thanduil comes through clearly and warmly. So much of the emptiness to his history could be interpreted in a myriad of ways but you have opted for a largely positive path. To me, especially with the lack of details regarding the mother of Legolas, this is likely a just interpretation. The son usually is like one’s father, especially given their long lives and very long “childhood” when elves lives with their parents (please correct any incorrect suppositions here). You also did a great job blending what you pulled from the unknown times of Thranduil’s live with what we have read and have seen of it during The Hobbit. Even though the book and the movies differ quite a bit on the portrayal of Thanduil, I enjoyed your approach to weaving it all together.
Finally, I’ve noticed a few of the Tolkien channels going in to these deeper character dives. I love this. I love it even when there are periods of their story we don’t know, because you state this and then state what you believe. This provides your listener/viewer with a great deal of information on what is known, what is speculated, what is debated, and what is simply completely unknown.
I really appreciate that! Glad you enjoyed it 😁
@@TheBrokenSword You know what is going to be great? When Ai makes the rest of the Tolkien books into movies for us.
Thranduil is my favorite, love him ❤❤❤❤❤❤
He wasn't just an elven king. He was The Elvenking. The only one left. The Hobbit is the only reason most people know of his existence, but even that representation missed the mark. It's Thranduil and Legolas' relationship that is being examined, a father and son. I think that would have been better served if they hadn't just invented stuff about the wife. Instead, they should have focused on Thranduil's relationship with his own father. That is what informed how he behaved, the trauma he was still dealing with after 3000 years, and the way he related to his own son. He's a king of a people who aren't really his, with only the one child. No wife or parents or other relatives. And now, he has to come to terms with the one person he truly loves, leaving him to go off into the world on his own. And then, after the relief of the victory over Sauron, Legolas sails West. Thranduil is alone once more. Perhaps forever.
I appreciate your skills at how you fill in the gaps. Discussing Thranduil’s history is a terrific example.
Thranduil is one of my favorite LOTR characters.
The guy who played him in the movies is beautiful
For me, the most compelling bit about Thranduil was that not only was he not a member of the White Council (how does an Elven King get left out of such a thing?), but he is completely ignorant of the White Council's plans and presence in Mirkwood to chase off Sauron. Thranduil didn't just have isolationist tendencies, he was the poster child for it! In spite of the danger emanating from a place well within a days journey from his own realm, he does absolutely nothing to combat and seems strangely incurious about its source. Very strange policy to adopt for someone responsible for his people's safety. He does not become actively involved in the greater events in The Hobbit until there's a treasure to claim. Frankly, while he's an intriguing character, I've always found him rather off putting. I think far more of his son. I agree in the thinking that Thranduil may have spent his early life in Doriath. It would certainly go far to explain a lot. Is realm in the vast caves in northern Mirkwood certainly seem to mimic ancient Menegroth. Ah well, we lost Tolkien too soon. I so wish he had been able to fully write the Silmarillion with a proper narrative, and had the time to go in and sort of back fill where information was scanty or contradictory. Alas...
The portrayal of Thranduil was perfection in my opinion . Magnificent .
Great post on one of my favorite characters of the 2nd and 3rd Ages.
The Eleven kind are breathtaking. GORGEOUS.... Thranduil is so handsome there isn't a woman alive that could look away from a face such as his. The elves in LOTR are incredibly beautiful.
Im so pleased your channel has taken off since having to start from scratch not too long ago! Congratulations im so glad you never threw in the towel after that because youe content is some of the very best on CZcams concerning Tolkien and Middle Earth lore!! Truly.❤
So, Ive not read the books but have extended versions of all 6 movies ❤ ive always wondered of Thranduils journeys prior to The Hobbit era- even while The Lord of the Rings is taking place- and before then as well, so thank you very much for sharing this❤ i saw in comments that Thranduil is a dark elf? Is he really?? I always saw him as kind of jaded, but not dark?? What about Oropher? Finally i very much wish we had been introduced to Thranduils wife somewhere. Ive always wondered about her story as well..
Thranduil is interesting… the only Elven ruler of the only Elven realm we meet that has nothing to do with the Beleriand Elves (his father is likely Sindar, but he seems so isolated from it all). The closest to “Dark Elves” actually being in the story. A likely permanent Elven dweller of Middle Earth, inspiring those more common fairytale stories of elves. I also think it’s likely that Legolas is one of many children, and probably not the main heir, just based on how distant Legolas seems from Mirkwood after LOTR.
To be fair, Legolas also heard the call of the sea during Return of the King. After that, he was never going to feel totally at home in Mirkwood again.
In some ways, his time in Ithilien after the war was just as stopover as he prepared to sail West. Yes, he and his people helped to restore the land, but it seems he was also just there as long as Aragorn still lived. Once his friend passed, he grabbed Gimli and they left.
Love this video. Great content as always and really enjoy the new format of the videos.
Awesome, thank you! 😁
I find your commentaries to be enjoyable very thought provoking.
Omg the hot fuzz reference was perfectly timed... as soon as you stated about the greater good, I pictured hot fuzz and then bam, you had it in the video!
I can’t hear the Greater Good without thinking of Hot Fuzz 😂
@TheBrokenSword lol my wife and I are the same way... if we ever say "the greater good" then one of us will immediately repeat it and then the other will shout, shut it! Yes lol I know we're weird!
Been enjoying this style of video. Keep up the good work. Quick questuon though.. where's the other dude?
I can tell you what Legolas WASN'T doing during the events of the Hobbit; jumping up falling rocks to fight Bolg while being involved in a love triangle against a dwarf. His addition to the PJ trilogy was one of the few things that made sense, as he would most certainly be around and likely a high-ranking member of the realm. During the Battle of Five Armies however, I surmise he would've been ordered to stay behind and take charge of the guard for the reasons you mention in the video about Thranduil wanting to protect him from harm.
Well, hollywood is hollywood and while the movies were not perfect, they were far from being the shitshow some zealous fan describe. Its an adaptation, and it should be consummed as such.
I like to think he went west also, it is told 3 last kings went west. Cirdan, Celeborn and i like to think - Thranduil. cannot find the quote so fast, but thats what i hope. He had his son west and he loved him like crazy, also his family.
Re Legolas...
In the Fellowship of the Ring, especially at the Council of Elrond, Legolas clearly knows Aragorn, knows his lineage and seems to have "participated" in some of his "adventures".
My sense is that Legolas may well have been both a "Wandering Adventurer" (helping Aragorn capture Gollum, for instance) and also the leader of the Silvan Elvish army (as shown in The Hobbit movie Trilogy) - Thus, it was highly likely that Legolas participated in the Battle of the Five Armies...
I always figured that the Orcs missed a trick by fighting against the Elves and Dwarves before they'd finished off fighting each other.
I have always wondered, why did Oropher act so irrationally in attacking without back up? Why? sort of why did the Duke of York leave Sandal castle without back up? Why? And I wonder why they didn't suspect where the darkness cane from in Dol Guldor? Really?
Ego
I think that if the hobbit was intended to be in the storyline of Middle-earth and the lord of the rings was also in Tolkien's mind. Legolas would have definitely be a part of the story, probably only in the kingdom itself, but he would definitely be mentioned. For Tolkien loved to make connections with other stories from his legendarium. There are enough moments in the Lord of the rings books to proof this 😊
I think that we might have learned about Legolas' activities during the events of The Hobbit if Tolkien had finished his attempted 1960 revision of the book. As it stands, Bilbo and the dwarves never made it past Rivendell.
The cyclicality of the narrative in the stories fictionalized by Tolkien appears again in the character of Thranduil: After the death of Denethor, the leader of the Ossiriand elves (Laiquendi), in the First Beleriand War, which took place in the First Age, this elven race partially isolated themselves from the Beleriand wars and the events taking place in this geography. Similarly, the character Thranduil followed a policy of isolating the Woodland Realm from the rest of Middle-earth in the Third Age, as he witnessed the death of his father Oropher and most of his people in the War of the Last Alliance in the Second Age. However, as stated in the video, he did not make the mistake Thingol made.
I believe that Legolas was an unnamed lieutenant during the battle of the five armies.
🔥🔥🔥
0.48 "build me an army worthy of modor". Okay, one clown army coming straight up
You notice how many struggling realms have single Kings and the Queens or ladies are gone in some way: Mirkwood, Minas Tirith, Rohan to name the obvious three. Im sure there are more
Appart from a few exeptions, Tolkien wrote all those stories in the same way he experienced life (the world wars etc). Its a tale of axed around death and the deads of many great characters, that accomplish incredible things. In real life, just like in his story, most of the incredible achievements of history have been accomplished by men, and once in a while an absolutely exeptionnal woman rises (Jeanne d'Arc, Budicca etc) and places herself at that same legendary level of achievement. Here we are talking about achievements so great they leave no room for haters or interpretation. In tolkiens work, this is well reflected with a large amount of male characters being exceptionnal, and a handfull of absolute alpha female.
@@Ghurdill true true. I’ve just been pondering stuff on “the bigger picture”. So every realm seems to be an imitation/iteration of Valinor - a mountain, a forest, some pasture, entrance to halls of Mandos, a lake with an island… but each realm falls short in some way and that includes if the rulers are flying solo (Or in Denethor’s case he has both lost his wife and is trying to hinder the return of the King).
This even extends to Gollum who we find under the Misty mountains living on a rocky island in the middle of an underground lake! Just him and the Precious like it’s his Queen!
❤
Thranduil junto com cirdan são na terceira era os dois elfos escuros mais experientes
What darkspeak of Mordor be this, I wonder?
@@Emanon...brasil português.
I believe it's Portuguese 😂 @@Emanon...
@@TheBrokenSwordsim
@@TheBrokenSword Yes. I believe so, but couldn't resist the gag. 😉
Can anyone tell me how the elves of belleriand survived the war of wrath? Did they migrate before the battle?
Another thing about Legolas is that we do not know whether or not he had any siblings. The first edition of The One Ring RPG (Cubicle 7) does suggest in the expansion The Heart of the Wild that Thranduil does have more than one son. Of course this is not canonical! We also do not have any information about his mother, including whether she is alive or dead. The Peter Jackson films don't count.
11:22 - While this has nothing to do with Thranduil's character, i can never get over just how impractical this scene is 😂😂 imagine having a somewhat secure shield wall to keep the enemy back, and instead of either reinforcing it or striking from behind or the sides, they just jump right in front of it and into danger 😂😂 it looks so badass but its so impractical. I'm sorry, i know this has nothing to do with Thranduil's character, but i just had to vent about this. I'm sorry
I think it was done nicely.. When the enemy got really close, it was a surprise attack.. the orcs were closing in thinking they would push through the shield wall..instead, they were literally jumped from above, from an angle, they'd be more vulnerable.. by the time they get to the shields.. most orc in the first line of attack would be dead.. hope this makes sense 😅
Don’t expect practicality in a fantasy setting, for there will always be over the top, larger than life things that doesn’t have to make sense lol for that is the beauty of fantasy after all
i wonder if tolken had planed for the legolas that led the people out of gondalin to be the reembodied legolas of the lotr. arwen is considered a reembodied elf as was Glorfindel the elf who she replaced rescuing the hobbits from the bridge to the ford, the he died at the pass while leaving gondalin, while killing a balrog. i have chapters in my head, legolas life, death, time with mandos, reembodyment, he was always greater than his father in this rendition, his father was wise and knew to send him-alone not an odanary messenger.
What happened to the other guy? Is it a solo channel now?
Thranduil from the films look a bit like Nicholas Cage. That would have been an interesting performance...
I would think Legolas may have stayed behind to guard the realm.
He looks like the lead singer of AFI
That’s a new one to me 😂
Build me an army worthy of Hodor.
why are legolas and his mother not mentioned?
3:14 to 4:22
4:38
14:30 to 14:48
What became og your partner?
He's still around! He focuses on other channels but will still be around from time to time! Especially when we are able to start live streams again :)
Would Legolas have ever become king or would he refuse?
Video 278
I still look out for your comments every video 😁
The anti=Elrond.
Best will in the world pal? Don't want to see you at all, just the famous battles an that.