Just confirms everything we thought, Kyrie is selfish and puts himself first over winning. Will never be a great in my book, he was lucky Lebron came around and gave him his spotlight. Now with Tatum bringing back the series to Boston in 7, they are a much better team without Kyries selfishness and no one to hold Tatum back anymore. The Kyrie's, Hardens, Kawhis, and Durant's of the league will never be all time greats making selfish moves like these. If you're Shaq or LeBron and you built a championship legacy for years, you have g14 classification to do whatever you want. But to leave right before a chance to build that... Shameful
Huge Cavs fan. When Kyrie left it reminded me of a saying I heard a few years ago about certain NBA players. "There are players who want to win and there are players who want to win on there own terms".
The difference is playing with Durant you can share the spotlight. Curry had plenty of the spotlight with Durant. While lebron gets 100% of the credit.
Thomas when u compare kyrie to lbj or kd or these all time great they’re not great players. Kyrie is definitely one of the best in the league. Greatest handles ever
Kyrie left because he thinks he’s a leader or “the guy” and he showed in Boston that’s not the case. Now he’s in Brooklyn behind yet another much better player
Kyrie had everyone fooled into thinking he was a victim when all along it was him. He made such a big fuss for being “overlooked” but is overlooked now on Brooklyn. The guy is a hypocrite, and he and Kevin Durant love making it seem like someone is out to get them.
In todays NBA, Scottie would absolutely have left Jordan at some point. You can see today, it bothers him that people only think of him as being under Jordan’s wing. He won’t ever be viewed differently, and he desperately wants to be viewed differently
He is viewed differently. He's arguably the greatest defender ever, and Jordan wouldn't have won those rings without him-- just as Pippen didn't win a thing without Jordan. The way it went is the best way it could have gone.
@@Nick_a_ra_gua Well Kyrie in Cleveland was no "ride along"-- they wouldn't have gotten that ring without him. What isn't mentioned here is that James was making a lot of noise about leaving and Kyrie just got out first-- nothing wrong with that. He certainly hasn't been effective as the best player on his teams, however-- definitely needs other stars to be effective.
@@jakoberondo6381 without mentioning the thingds that are obvious: led the league in assist, finished 2nd in MVP (over Kawhi, btw) is a great defender in the playoffs, in the WCF... and you say he is worse?
This show is so good. Even the segments with minimal jokes age well in terms of content. Astute analysis and hot takes mixed with their personalities got me coming back years later
I agree with Chuck.. you want to be a winner you need to know how to sacrifice. DWade could've focused on being a main guy in Miami. Didn't have to accept LeBron. He already had the accolades. But he adjusts to other players because his mentality is a win first mentality. That's how your remembered. Guys who focus on other things besides winning just become another good NBA player.
@92KOBE24 when it comes to basketball in general it needs to be some type of context or some type of understanding my biggest gripe would be the stats argument beacuse if we are going to praise one why not praise all who do the same ie everyone can pass rebound and score so why is LeBron's abilities and numbers praised more than a giannis or Westbrook I mean Russel did avg a triple double for like three years straight and it's just like oh well he stat pads 😂 but you don't think a guy in LeBron isn't when his team is up 15 2 min left an he's still out there rebounding an driving an kicking come on now lol
@@dollarbill6342 all players stats pads smh. You make it seem like LeBron and Russell is the only one. You even hear formers players saying I wish the coach didn't take me out. You telling me that Klay didn't want to stay in when he score 60 smh
@@smoothgent1011 I'm talking about context dude these stats are being overrated and way too much emphasis is being put on something that is clearly being abused
Shaq sitting up talking he don’t think that way when it comes to MJ. If he was on the team with MIke, it’s Mike team not Shaq’s. Watch the Shaq & Penny 30 for 30, Shaq had a fragile ego that couldn’t stand the smaller star guys getting equal praise.
@@forc3ofxf3ar51 I can see Kyrie's post retirement interview headline now - My Biggest Regret was Demanding a Trade out of Cleveland. Dude's gonna go on about being young and selfish. Rings shine through the shadow homie, no reason to fix what isn't broken.
I wish the camera would have panned to O'Neal during Barkley's point. The feud between Shaq and Kobe was legendary in terms of immaturity and pettiness!
Kyrie wanted to prove he could be the man, but did nothing with that determination. Now, he’s back playing second-fiddle to a top-tier player. I was rooting for Kyrie, but he clearly demonstrated that he can’t lead a team to a championship. He is a superstar, but more in line with a CP3 than a Curry imo.
Kyrie was right about one thing: Lebron wasn’t getting “old” or falling off any time soon. 2+ years later and he’s my MVP of this FULL year. Giannis was a bit ahead in regular season but Lebron is taking his team to the Finals and getting the whole team involved.
Kyrie is the opposite of pippen, he could of have it all if he stayed and dealt with it, but left and cemented his future as a failure and a number two / three guy.
Well said, Chuckstar. Hoping no one remembers ure comments about lebron month prior. "He wants all the good players" back then and now "We want so many good players as possible"
Shaq's terrible work habits did not lend themselves to being "the man" so when he says he disagrees with Chuck around 4:44, he's just as delusional as Kyrie Irving is . . .
Hello 2020 here we are and He has won nothing. Rather he almost destroyed the Harmony of the Boston Team and is now a Second Fidel in Brooklyn. He will only suffer and regret like Carmelo at the end. He is lucky he earned a ring
Hey man I’m not mad at Kyrie. Playing with bron he’s so big that all the praise goes to him and all the blame goes to everyone else. Some people are ok with latching on to a great. Some people wana make there own staple. I’m not mad at him at all.
Couple of points, 1.every star isnt passing of the torch type of player. Often stars are the last one to know there not great anymore. example AI face when someone ask him about coming off the bench in Memphis. 2. Lebron and kyrie had the problem of doing the same thing. Kyrie wants to be a point guard, which is hard to do because lebron likes to have the ball and make decisions on where the ball should go.Kyrie wanted to show there ws more to his gme than scoring which he couldnt do with lebron. 3. Kyrie didnt want to be stuck in Cleveland(the city) 4. The Cavs were built around what works for lebron not kyrie. So by going to another team he has the chance of having something built around him. 5. Whos to say lebron is leaving after this year. I dont see any great options in the west which is stacked. The road to the finals is much easier in the east. So if lebron stays another 3 to 4 years then kyrie runs the risk of being out of his prime by the time the Cavs becomes his team.
I'm from the future, where Kyrie washed out in Boston. Two years after he runs to Brooklyn and trashes that organization, too, Boston makes it to the NBA Finals.
This is what happened: Kyrie Irving's idol is the kind of guy who would be so brazen that he would kick the most dominant NBA player on his team off of it so that he could show the world that _he_ is the guy. And Kyrie Irving's idol did exactly that and it inspired him to the point that now he (Kyrie) thinks _he_ was actually better than LeBron who is his version of Shaq. Who's Kyrie Irving's idol? It's the guy he called immediately after he won his first and only ring: Kobe.
2 years later he failed in Boston, they played better without him. He leaves Boston and goes to Brooklyn and fails there too. They played better when he was injured.
Kyrie needs the ball on his hands. He is not a catch and shoot guy. That's not his style. While he with KD now, he is still with a player who has shared the court with Curry and doesn't need the ball always. Also even today, Lebron can just score 16 point triple double, while AD can score 30 point double double with blocks and steals and still the media talks about Lebron not AD. He just didn't want to be like that. He joined KD because they can coexist and grow together and not just make a catch and shoot guy.
Being the #1 guy in a larger market like Boston instead of Cleveland... now Brooklyn guarantees him more money, that's why players are so focused on being #1 and on their own brand because they make more money off the court than their NBA salaries... that's all that matters for a lot of these players, money, not championships... just as it should be, I worry about my family first.
Well it’s been how many years now, and we see Kyrie is just a pawn in KD game plan. And like I said before, I mean ten years ago when KD stared at LBJ on the court during the game. I saw nothing but, 😡😏 in his eyes.
@@user-ze7tl2dw4i I wouldn't call Lebron arrogant though. Arrogance is confidence undeserved. It's thinking you're all that, when you aint. Lebron James IS that. He's been to the finals 9 times and won 3. He's a 3 time MVP and a perennial all-star. His confidence is justified by his play. Meanwhile, how much of that had Kyrie done at the time of leaving Cleveland? The only arrogant one in that whole situation was Kyrie and that proved itself true when he failed in Boston and ran to Brooklyn to play second fiddle again. He just couldn't handle the spotlight. He wanted to be the man, but not the one that got blamed when the team falls short.
Lilium Couldn’t have said it better myself. Kyrie also knew to which the extent Cleveland’s front office would shill for Lebron. You saw how many rosters there were in that 2018 season. Kyrie wanted to be the guy who takes all of the shots and has the ball for most of the game, but I don’t think he understood how mentally and physically taxing it would be. It seems like he will be the guy who will reap the responsibilities, because of how outspoken he is and the fact that KD is coming off an Achilles surgery and has already proven himself. KD just wants to hoop; Kyrie wants more but isn’t quite cut out for it.
When LeBron leaves is not toxic but when Kyrie leaves it’s toxic. why would Kyrie ever want to play with a player who hogs the ball and does not maximize Kevin love Kevin love is the reason why they could not beat the GSW…GSW weakness was inside love was forced to lose weight and never got enough post touches in a game at all LeBron came to coaches and management and ask if he could get Kevin Love out on the three-point line away from the basket so he could drive so he was forced to lose 20 pounds for LeBron James not himself
Calling lebron unselfish is the most disingenuous thing I've ever heard on this show and comparing lebron to jordan is comparing Picasso to my 9 year olds fridge drawings
Uh sir lebron is more skilled than Jordan tho stop acting like he’s a chump he’s the best player of this generation and even though I think mjs the goat it’s a debatable argument, stop acting like bron is Kwame brown.
Just revisiting this video after Nets debacle.
Lol same here
Yup won’t surprise me if Kyrie never wins another ring again
Just confirms everything we thought, Kyrie is selfish and puts himself first over winning. Will never be a great in my book, he was lucky Lebron came around and gave him his spotlight. Now with Tatum bringing back the series to Boston in 7, they are a much better team without Kyries selfishness and no one to hold Tatum back anymore. The Kyrie's, Hardens, Kawhis, and Durant's of the league will never be all time greats making selfish moves like these. If you're Shaq or LeBron and you built a championship legacy for years, you have g14 classification to do whatever you want. But to leave right before a chance to build that... Shameful
Came here cause i saw a post on Instagram about it
Debacle?
Wow, 3yrs later:
-The Table gets longer
-Kenny’s hairline is somewhat visible
-Draymond is there time to time
-etc
Also Chuck seemed a tad slimmer in 2017
Well the big table is only because of covid/social distancing.
stewie griffin
Indubitably
@@gingsSon lebrons still making it to finals while kyries at home
Lol underrated update
Huge Cavs fan. When Kyrie left it reminded me of a saying I heard a few years ago about certain NBA players. "There are players who want to win and there are players who want to win on there own terms".
No one goes on vacation to Cleveland. Kyrie was like I’m out.
Or there are players who dont care about winning and just want a pay cheque. Like 95% of players in the league
So he thinking Nets his team? Lol nah it's KD's
@@kobeb4979 Loool for real. Everyone knows that too, the nets is clearly KD's team. Kyrie had his chance in boston and blew it
and kyrie found out that he doesn't whatever it takes to win on his own terms.
CZcams is messy for recommending this video to me after Kyrie was swept in the first round.
From a two under LeBron, to a two under Durant.
That's been funny to me since he went to Brooklyn. He wanted to be Batman, that didn't work out, so now he's back to being a Robin.
@@brett8202 more like a nightwing imo
The difference is playing with Durant you can share the spotlight. Curry had plenty of the spotlight with Durant. While lebron gets 100% of the credit.
Mon Desire curry doesn’t get spotlight?
Mon Desire I meant he doesn’t get the credit. He definitely gets spotlight but lebron has always gotten 100% of the credit/
Shaq funny asf for pressing chuck "Kyrie not a great player? MELO NOT A GREAT PLAYER? Oh ok..."☠️☠️☠️☠️
They aren't. Great individual scoring =/= great player
Definitely not great players. A tier or two below the likes of KD lbj and kobe
Thomas when u compare kyrie to lbj or kd or these all time great they’re not great players. Kyrie is definitely one of the best in the league. Greatest handles ever
@@danielwang3090 more like one of the best scorer instead of player. Pre-Lebron Cleveland stank.
@@blanktrigger8863 Kyrie is a great player
Kyrie left because he thinks he’s a leader or “the guy” and he showed in Boston that’s not the case. Now he’s in Brooklyn behind yet another much better player
DREVM yeah don’t understand a score first guard didn’t want to play with a willing passer in bron lol
@@Forthreee Well let the hype begin. Because they’re playing nice
@@Forthreee Maybe like Chuck said he didn’t actually like the person.
Kyrie had everyone fooled into thinking he was a victim when all along it was him. He made such a big fuss for being “overlooked” but is overlooked now on Brooklyn. The guy is a hypocrite, and he and Kevin Durant love making it seem like someone is out to get them.
two much better players actually
Shaq knew what was happening and explained it perfectly
Yeah. He talking bout him and kobe being in his shadows
thats a first lol
@@anjincarlonadal4005 bingo
He experienced it first hand with Kobe lol
he could've waited his turn to speak instead of just cutting kenny of like that.
In todays NBA, Scottie would absolutely have left Jordan at some point.
You can see today, it bothers him that people only think of him as being under Jordan’s wing.
He won’t ever be viewed differently, and he desperately wants to be viewed differently
He’ll actually be viewed as less than what he was after his recent antics, Scottie is legitimately crazy noe
and it’s so interesting bc the fans fully acknowledge and appreciate Scottie for what he was, yet he still feels like he could’ve been more
He is viewed differently. He's arguably the greatest defender ever, and Jordan wouldn't have won those rings without him-- just as Pippen didn't win a thing without Jordan. The way it went is the best way it could have gone.
Fans are either gonna call you a ride along or a selfish player for wanting to start your own journey! You can’t win with ❄️
@@Nick_a_ra_gua Well Kyrie in Cleveland was no "ride along"-- they wouldn't have gotten that ring without him. What isn't mentioned here is that James was making a lot of noise about leaving and Kyrie just got out first-- nothing wrong with that. He certainly hasn't been effective as the best player on his teams, however-- definitely needs other stars to be effective.
Chuck: “Lebron’s going to start aging at some point”
*That didn’t age well*
hes worse now what u talking about
jakoberondo yeh dawg 2nd in mvp voting, so much worse 🤨🤨
@@jakoberondo6381 father time is undefeated. All im saying
@@jakoberondo6381 without mentioning the thingds that are obvious: led the league in assist, finished 2nd in MVP (over Kawhi, btw) is a great defender in the playoffs, in the WCF... and you say he is worse?
@@tomugetsu5947 yep
Who is here after Durant and Kyrie got swept by the Celtics?
This aged well...
Joe Sugden Shaq was right 💯
@@Gdurnsbkf Charles: “Lebron is gonna age.”
@@Gdurnsbkf fr I miss those days
This show is so good. Even the segments with minimal jokes age well in terms of content. Astute analysis and hot takes mixed with their personalities got me coming back years later
Man I miss basketball. I love these segments where these 3 talk about things from a player's perspective
I agree with Chuck.. you want to be a winner you need to know how to sacrifice. DWade could've focused on being a main guy in Miami. Didn't have to accept LeBron. He already had the accolades. But he adjusts to other players because his mentality is a win first mentality. That's how your remembered. Guys who focus on other things besides winning just become another good NBA player.
Dwade had no choice he was aging Kyrie wasn't
@92KOBE24 when it comes to basketball in general it needs to be some type of context or some type of understanding my biggest gripe would be the stats argument beacuse if we are going to praise one why not praise all who do the same ie everyone can pass rebound and score so why is LeBron's abilities and numbers praised more than a giannis or Westbrook I mean Russel did avg a triple double for like three years straight and it's just like oh well he stat pads 😂 but you don't think a guy in LeBron isn't when his team is up 15 2 min left an he's still out there rebounding an driving an kicking come on now lol
@@dollarbill6342 all players stats pads smh. You make it seem like LeBron and Russell is the only one. You even hear formers players saying I wish the coach didn't take me out. You telling me that Klay didn't want to stay in when he score 60 smh
@@smoothgent1011 read what I put again and then comment
@@smoothgent1011 I'm talking about context dude these stats are being overrated and way too much emphasis is being put on something that is clearly being abused
Shaq explained it perfectly
Because he know he played with Kobe who wanted to be the man and get that finals mvp
That’s why they lost to Detroit
They lost cause Shaq didn’t show up. Kobe was the only 1 who balled.
Shaq sitting up talking he don’t think that way when it comes to MJ. If he was on the team with MIke, it’s Mike team not Shaq’s. Watch the Shaq & Penny 30 for 30, Shaq had a fragile ego that couldn’t stand the smaller star guys getting equal praise.
@@Arjr72 wrong he agrees that everybody should do what they want to do its simple
Its so weird now without seeing the biggest desk ever 😂
Team is second to Kyrie. Look at him now in Boston losing the playoffs. Bill Russell won 11 championships. Because he fed his teammates.
And look at him now. De railed d lo, took Spencer’s minutes, chemistry was nowhere near as good for Brooklyn this year
@@forc3ofxf3ar51 I can see Kyrie's post retirement interview headline now - My Biggest Regret was Demanding a Trade out of Cleveland. Dude's gonna go on about being young and selfish. Rings shine through the shadow homie, no reason to fix what isn't broken.
@@user-ze7tl2dw4i nah a dude tried to have him traded so he beat him to the punch in other words it was broken
lol youre going to have to get over it eventually man lmk when that is
Kyrie is trash !
My how this all turned out.
“Lebron gone start aging at some point”😂😂😂😂4 years later
I was looking for this comment, 5 now🤣
@@correosanford5126 crazy 😂😂😂
You ask Kenny a question dude takes like 20 minutes to answer and sometimes don’t even answer the question
kenny never answers the question lol
@Ashely Andrews yeah he never responds to anything he just talks circles
Shaq broke it down perfectly
I wish the camera would have panned to O'Neal during Barkley's point. The feud between Shaq and Kobe was legendary in terms of immaturity and pettiness!
This might be Shaq's best take. I love Chuck and Kenny but Shaq understands LeBron and Kyrie's situation at that time.
True Shaq is 100 right
Well this is his bag he did play with Kobe who’s basically kyrie step dad
Shaq gets it because he also has quite the ego. Chuck not so much.
Shaqs argument is exactly the reason he and Kobe didn't get at least two more together
I love watching these videos from the past knowing what we know now :D
Kyrie wanted to prove he could be the man, but did nothing with that determination. Now, he’s back playing second-fiddle to a top-tier player. I was rooting for Kyrie, but he clearly demonstrated that he can’t lead a team to a championship. He is a superstar, but more in line with a CP3 than a Curry imo.
Cp3> kyrie. Cp3 top 10 PG of all time. Kyrie will go down in the top 25🤢
Now Kyrie is learning his lesson more and more :)
Kyrie was right about one thing: Lebron wasn’t getting “old” or falling off any time soon. 2+ years later and he’s my MVP of this FULL year. Giannis was a bit ahead in regular season but Lebron is taking his team to the Finals and getting the whole team involved.
Kyrie is the opposite of pippen, he could of have it all if he stayed and dealt with it, but left and cemented his future as a failure and a number two / three guy.
@@hugewang69 ….
Well said, Chuckstar. Hoping no one remembers ure comments about lebron month prior. "He wants all the good players" back then and now "We want so many good players as possible"
You right
Kyrie wanted to get traded cos someone said lebron was his dad
Update 2021 Kyrie ain’t been back to the finals since Bron and The King 👑 has won another ring
Update 2022 Kyrie and KD just got swept out of the first round by the Celtics who then lost game 1 against the bucks
@@James-Lifts then won the series
@@gwkiv1458 and lost to the warriors in 6 in the finals ? And the bucks didn’t have Middleton, they would have won.
@@James-LiftsUpdate 2023, Kyrie misses playoffs, KD goes to semis, LeBron conference finals.
Kyrie is just drama queen, thats it... but Love the ending where shaq is like alright and he dropped it
Shaq's terrible work habits did not lend themselves to being "the man" so when he says he disagrees with Chuck around 4:44, he's just as delusional as Kyrie Irving is . . .
That scottie pippen comment sure didn't age well lol
Wow that was the best question I've ever heard Kenny ask.
It’s crazy what time can reveal lol
2:58 why was that satisfying to hear? First time i heard EJ say very good.
All great points by these guys man. Awesome! 👍👍👍👍👍
I needed this with everything going on in this country right now
Chuck low key always right
Shaq was talking about Kobe when he sayed I know guys who didn’t want to be number 2 guy anymore and felt like they can carry their own team
Why would Kyrie want to stay on the Cavs with no LeBron? What are you talking about lol
This aged like milk
Scottie saying "You know this Michael Jordan thing ain't cool" well that went well!!!
well said charlie barkley
Shaq sitting there with they Easter Sunday Suit On, Lol 😂😆
SHAQ Broke it Down EASY. Pay ATTENTION.
Watching now in 2020 (COVID), the desk looks so small...wow times have changed
This did not age well he went to go be another bus passenger
If I'm Kyrie I'm rocking with Lebron free trip to the finals and the potential for anoher ring and see where it goes after that.
full episodes!!!!!!
How's your decision working out for you now Kyrie! Wanted to be the man for 1 season.......
It all makes sense now, he's crazy and doesn't really care about basketball.
Unfortunately, i have to agree mostly based on his career after this and the off court antics
Shaq knows this situation all to well
I miss these guys!!!
Such an interesting conversation, especially considering that Kyrie went to play with KD.
So much for being "Tha Man".
Can’t win on his own 😂
But Charles said unless someone is the man on a championship don't mean nothing now he's saying this bs .
Kyrie just want to accomplish something..to maximize his talent and he wants to do it now..cause athlete has a very short career..so why wait..
That will have to wait
Hello 2020 here we are and He has won nothing. Rather he almost destroyed the Harmony of the Boston Team and is now a Second Fidel in Brooklyn. He will only suffer and regret like Carmelo at the end. He is lucky he earned a ring
It’s funny seeing this in my recommended section after kyrie gets swept
Hey man I’m not mad at Kyrie. Playing with bron he’s so big that all the praise goes to him and all the blame goes to everyone else. Some people are ok with latching on to a great. Some people wana make there own staple. I’m not mad at him at all.
I wish barkley have bron in his days , they would definitely champions together.
Not gonna lie just came back from the lebron dont wanna compete vid, chucks point here contradicts what he was saying in that vid.
Couple of points,
1.every star isnt passing of the torch type of player. Often stars are the last one to know there not great anymore. example AI face when someone ask him about coming off the bench in Memphis.
2. Lebron and kyrie had the problem of doing the same thing. Kyrie wants to be a point guard, which is hard to do because lebron likes to have the ball and make decisions on where the ball should go.Kyrie wanted to show there ws more to his gme than scoring which he couldnt do with lebron.
3. Kyrie didnt want to be stuck in Cleveland(the city)
4. The Cavs were built around what works for lebron not kyrie. So by going to another team he has the chance of having something built around him.
5. Whos to say lebron is leaving after this year. I dont see any great options in the west which is stacked. The road to the finals is much easier in the east. So if lebron stays another 3 to 4 years then kyrie runs the risk of being out of his prime by the time the Cavs becomes his team.
Good points right there
well things sure do change lol
@@danielmizrahi9629 that they do
Yep
I'm from the future, where Kyrie washed out in Boston. Two years after he runs to Brooklyn and trashes that organization, too, Boston makes it to the NBA Finals.
This is what happened: Kyrie Irving's idol is the kind of guy who would be so brazen that he would kick the most dominant NBA player on his team off of it so that he could show the world that _he_ is the guy. And Kyrie Irving's idol did exactly that and it inspired him to the point that now he (Kyrie) thinks _he_ was actually better than LeBron who is his version of Shaq. Who's Kyrie Irving's idol? It's the guy he called immediately after he won his first and only ring:
Kobe.
Truth
Kenny is a sidekick. Even on the show, therefore his explanation in the beginning
2 years later he failed in Boston, they played better without him. He leaves Boston and goes to Brooklyn and fails there too. They played better when he was injured.
Charles nailed it
Funny how charles saying he wanna win and wants all the great players then brag about drving the bus lol
Kyrie wanted to win without LeBron, but still hasn't won anything without Lebron
Ego is killing team chemistry!
All that is is ego. If you would rather leave a winning team because you aren't "the man", then you belong in an individual sport, not a team game.
Kyrie Pg trade would’ve been clean
Kyrie needs the ball on his hands. He is not a catch and shoot guy. That's not his style. While he with KD now, he is still with a player who has shared the court with Curry and doesn't need the ball always. Also even today, Lebron can just score 16 point triple double, while AD can score 30 point double double with blocks and steals and still the media talks about Lebron not AD. He just didn't want to be like that. He joined KD because they can coexist and grow together and not just make a catch and shoot guy.
Shaq said it the best
Charles barkley low key dissing Neymar 💀
Kenny on point
How’s this workout for Kyrie?
Charles is so right
Kyrie is mad at Lebron. No torches in Kyrie’s eyes.
Being the #1 guy in a larger market like Boston instead of Cleveland... now Brooklyn guarantees him more money, that's why players are so focused on being #1 and on their own brand because they make more money off the court than their NBA salaries... that's all that matters for a lot of these players, money, not championships... just as it should be, I worry about my family first.
After listening to kyrie on IAmAthlete Shaq was spot on with this
wow. im watching this while they're using the corona desk. looks odd now
Sadly enough, This is the same game Gordon Hayward Broke His leg.
He just got tired of being in a situation where one man is bigger then the team
Grandpapurp 1226 if a guy bigger then me i wont care bc im on a good team
I agree on Chuck, you wanna play with great players as much as possible, especially when it's not you moving to their specific teams.
Ironic that you said this, but Kyrie wanted to bigger than the team. Failed in Boston. Now he’s saying publicly half the Nets need to be traded.
i agree, and all the lebron nut huggers didn’t make it any better...
Very ironic comment
Well it’s been how many years now, and we see Kyrie is just a pawn in KD game plan. And like I said before, I mean ten years ago when KD stared at LBJ on the court during the game. I saw nothing but, 😡😏 in his eyes.
I agree with Chuck and I honestly think Kyrie does not like LeBron personally nor as a player.
what happens when you get two arrogant superstars together and one is objectively better.
@@user-ze7tl2dw4i I wouldn't call Lebron arrogant though. Arrogance is confidence undeserved. It's thinking you're all that, when you aint. Lebron James IS that. He's been to the finals 9 times and won 3. He's a 3 time MVP and a perennial all-star. His confidence is justified by his play. Meanwhile, how much of that had Kyrie done at the time of leaving Cleveland? The only arrogant one in that whole situation was Kyrie and that proved itself true when he failed in Boston and ran to Brooklyn to play second fiddle again. He just couldn't handle the spotlight. He wanted to be the man, but not the one that got blamed when the team falls short.
Lilium Couldn’t have said it better myself. Kyrie also knew to which the extent Cleveland’s front office would shill for Lebron. You saw how many rosters there were in that 2018 season. Kyrie wanted to be the guy who takes all of the shots and has the ball for most of the game, but I don’t think he understood how mentally and physically taxing it would be. It seems like he will be the guy who will reap the responsibilities, because of how outspoken he is and the fact that KD is coming off an Achilles surgery and has already proven himself. KD just wants to hoop; Kyrie wants more but isn’t quite cut out for it.
Yea now kyrie can't even make the playoff
Shaq doesn’t understand Kenny/chucks points but still argues every time
Shaq talking about penny and kobe
When LeBron leaves is not toxic but when Kyrie leaves it’s toxic. why would Kyrie ever want to play with a player who hogs the ball and does not maximize Kevin love
Kevin love is the reason why they could not beat the GSW…GSW weakness was inside love was forced to lose weight and never got enough post touches in a game at all
LeBron came to coaches and management and ask if he could get Kevin Love out on the three-point line away from the basket so he could drive so he was forced to lose 20 pounds for LeBron James not himself
Goes to boston, does nothing and leaves to be in Kd n hardens shadow???
That moment when you don't wanna be the Cavs #2, then become the Nets #3 behind KD and Durant 😂😂😂
That was the dumbest take ever. KD = Durant
Kyrie is better than durant
Shaq must be the "resident selfish athlete" of the panel....
My own opinion is that Kyrie left for a reason wether he explained well enough is a mystery then again it's not that much hard to tell.
You gotta respect
"Lebron gone start aging at some point." When????????????????
Guys just care about money not championships nowadayz
Also Shaq is absolutely 💯💯🔥
This is got to be the most lucid Kenny has ever been on the show
Calling lebron unselfish is the most disingenuous thing I've ever heard on this show and comparing lebron to jordan is comparing Picasso to my 9 year olds fridge drawings
Uh sir lebron is more skilled than Jordan tho stop acting like he’s a chump he’s the best player of this generation and even though I think mjs the goat it’s a debatable argument, stop acting like bron is Kwame brown.
@@ianbaker7170 typical emotional response from a clueless bron fan boy
Fullmetal and I’m not a fan boy I just appreciate the game in a non toxic way unlike u
@@ianbaker7170 MJ is more skilled imo
@@ianbaker7170 calling lebron more skilled then mj is embarrassing