Guy's sobering trip to Hiroshima | Guy Martin Proper

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  • Guy Martin visits a slum in Yokohama; pays his respects at Hiroshima, and takes a dip in the mildly radioactive waters of a spring; and participates in one of Japan's oldest fireworks festivals. In this clip, Guy's in Hiroshima. To watch the full documentary head over to All4 - bit.ly/34cTxqz
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  • @ac2244
    @ac2244 Před 3 lety +65

    I went to japan for two weeks in 2019 for the rugby World Cup. I must say it is the best country I’ve ever been too!

    • @benstern310
      @benstern310 Před 3 lety +3

      Been twice 2018 n 2019. Its brilliant!

    • @alexisbuchanan2028
      @alexisbuchanan2028 Před 3 lety +2

      I went for my 40th birthday and can easily say it's the best place I have ever visited. I would have happily never left.

    • @bibsythecottonelf7147
      @bibsythecottonelf7147 Před 3 lety +1

      Did you stop by Unit 731? Oh yeah.. they don’t like to mention that...

    • @ac2244
      @ac2244 Před 3 lety +3

      @@bibsythecottonelf7147 shut the fuck up

    • @keeemon4451
      @keeemon4451 Před 3 lety +1

      @@ac2244 ignoring japanese war crimes. hmmmm....

  • @MarsLonsen
    @MarsLonsen Před 4 lety +112

    guy: atomic bomb, Hiroshima, etc, etc.
    also guy: the TRAM! man, that's incredible

    • @johnc3403
      @johnc3403 Před 4 lety +8

      @MGTOW La’ Monk yeah, we all know the "American" way. ..we're all fed up to the back teeth with the American way.

  • @stevenmcnair1897
    @stevenmcnair1897 Před 4 lety +144

    The A-dome survived because of its location almost directly under blast, Its walls safe from any horizontal pressure while the shock from above knocked the floors to the ground of the building. There were many cement buildings in Hiroshima.

    • @BluesyBor
      @BluesyBor Před 4 lety +5

      Yep, that helped too, but there were other buildings around and they didn't survive the blast from above. There were other buildings made from reinforced concrete way further away, which received the blast from the famous Mach stem and still survived, like the army clothing depot over 2km away. In some cases people inside survived as well, probably the most extreme case being that one person who went down to the basements of the Rest House just next to the Dome. The rest House itself survived too, receiving the blast mostly above and being made from the concrete as well.

    • @BluesyBor
      @BluesyBor Před 4 lety +4

      @Ninja ZX-12R yup. I don't know the whole story, that person was most probably buried under the rubble and retrieved a bit later, but being able to crawl outside on your own after this isn't out of question.
      Actually being alive after this is a miracle, after all this building received the same kind of treatment as the Dome - floors being pushed down right onto one's head.

    • @johnc3403
      @johnc3403 Před 4 lety +4

      @Ninja ZX-12R ..then a tram pulls up

    • @williamwilliams8145
      @williamwilliams8145 Před 4 lety +13

      @Ninja ZX-12R There where lots of survivors, one called Tsutomu Yamaguchi after surviving that bomb returned home to Nagasaki and got nuked a second time and survived again.
      He died in January this year at the age of 104.

    • @thomasdalton2042
      @thomasdalton2042 Před 4 lety +2

      @@williamwilliams8145 Wow I've never heard that but its remarkable what a human can survive. When its your time to go nothing can stop and if it's not your time nothing can cause it.

  • @zharlou30Bacalso
    @zharlou30Bacalso Před 4 lety +63

    damn, guy has become jack of all trade, historian, vlogger, racer, cooker, businessman, paratrooper,

    • @kholi9441
      @kholi9441 Před 2 lety

      Only thing left for him is to become bald so that he can challenge Johny Sins! 😎

  • @AW-Services
    @AW-Services Před 4 lety +58

    Such a genuine and natural presenter with compassion dignity and informative delivery of history. Well done Guy

    • @karlkuttup
      @karlkuttup Před 4 lety +1

      he reminds me of a young fred dignah but the more modern stuff still think he would love steam engines ect would guy its a engine and guys allways asking questions as well like fred did

    • @AW-Services
      @AW-Services Před 4 lety

      @@karlkuttup exactly my thoughts too. Well said. Many call him the 200mp dibnah

  • @carlosdanger7907
    @carlosdanger7907 Před 4 lety +36

    I love how much respect Guy has for the history of Japan, and it's people.

    • @GloomGaiGar
      @GloomGaiGar Před 4 lety +2

      for everyone and everything really

  • @wekker090
    @wekker090 Před 4 lety +31

    Having been to both cities, I can only sai he is right its a weird feeling being on the spot.. now both great cities with very friendly people.

    • @shananagans5
      @shananagans5 Před 4 lety

      I can imagine. I have been to some test sites and just knowing that's where it all started gives you a bit of an unsettled feeling. I think going to either city would be much more emotional.

    • @abelgerli
      @abelgerli Před 4 lety +1

      I also visited both cities and both museums and I just hope the world learns about it.
      But a word of remorse and apology would help Japan emotionally I have never seen it from the US side.
      We Germans stand to our past learn about it but such acts are needed to process it right.

    • @truantray
      @truantray Před 4 lety

      @@abelgerli the US approach is simple: they had to end the war, and Japan committed horrible atrocities in China.
      There was never justification for Nagasaki, but we have to consider that the Japanese support of the Emperor was a religion at that time. They refused unconditional surrender. Ironically, the industrious people of Nagasaki worked day and night at the Mitsubishi plant to produce enough bombs for the attack on Pearl Harbor.

    • @doc-holliday-
      @doc-holliday- Před 3 lety

      @@abelgerli Why would the US apologize for ending a war Japan started? We can all be remorseful at the cost of life and the immense devastation of a weapon everyone hopes is never used again but it's pretty stupid to think an apology is in order. The Japanese empire at the time was right there with Hitler levels of evil look up the rape of nanjing and their treatment of POWs.
      A land invasion of Japan after what had already happened in Europe would have been utterly devastating to both sides far more then either of these bombs.

  • @gta5live443
    @gta5live443 Před 4 lety +25

    Guy Martin, what a top bloke I love this series and all the other ones you have done. We need more like this.

    • @David-lb4te
      @David-lb4te Před 4 lety

      Baaaah.

    • @matthew-jy5jp
      @matthew-jy5jp Před 3 lety

      Just so you know to all the people who watch social media to get a history lesson, they have these things called books. Check them out.

  • @steveluth3139
    @steveluth3139 Před 4 lety +27

    I was there last year with a friend. It was the most heavy while still beautifull thing I have ever experienced. In the museum it just felt wrong to even say a single word we just walked through it and let it all sink in.

    • @c3aloha
      @c3aloha Před 4 lety +2

      Steve Luth the burnt up tricycle is what choked me up

    • @paulnjoo
      @paulnjoo Před 4 lety +4

      I've been there too and I must admit it broke me.
      I found the stories of the children on their way to school getting burnt alive too much to bear.
      The display cases with melted milk bottles and roof slates were unbelievable and the shadow of the guy sitting on the steps of a Bank who was vaporised beggared belief.
      Also the story of the girl in hospital and the 10000 paper origami cranes was very upsetting.
      Even though it upsets me just as much now as when I went there many years ago I'm glad I went as it has furthered my understanding of war and especially atomic bombs and their impact.

    • @creperanch8968
      @creperanch8968 Před 4 lety

      Agreed, i didn't say a word in the museum, the watch that was stopped at the time the bomb dropped hit me hardest i think. The sound of the bell ringing in the park was eerie and beautiful.

  • @K1k1k148
    @K1k1k148 Před 4 lety +5

    Excellent vid as usual guy love your way of telling it and you make very enjoyable and educational vids my friend keep them coming

  • @Senokone
    @Senokone Před 4 lety

    I love these little video’s with guy presenting stuff! Keep them coming!

  • @matthew-jy5jp
    @matthew-jy5jp Před 3 lety

    I also just want to say that Guy Martin is awesome, I love this channel. I love how he treats these subjects with respect and compassion. And I will always support anything Guy does. 😊👍

  • @Mikemike-gr6xt
    @Mikemike-gr6xt Před 4 lety +19

    I have friend in Japan. She told me they hate whatever the old Japanese do. Like war and killing.. And during preschool, they will shown kids a video about this nuclear bombing(animated) and the worst thing that happened from it so the new generation wont start war again. I really love Japanese tho. They're super polite.

    • @bell3287
      @bell3287 Před 4 lety

      The high school's sucks tho

    • @retardo9633
      @retardo9633 Před 4 lety +2

      lol they are also super low key racist and their justice system belongs in the middle ages.

    • @Mikemike-gr6xt
      @Mikemike-gr6xt Před 4 lety +2

      @@retardo9633 most people from Europe and America's is racist tho👀

    • @Mikemike-gr6xt
      @Mikemike-gr6xt Před 4 lety

      @@bell3287 why😆😆

    • @bell3287
      @bell3287 Před 4 lety

      @@Mikemike-gr6xt Have you seen some of the strict rules the schools have? Some require you to dye your hair black if it's naturally brown or ban female students from wearing warmer cloths when it's cold

  • @freedeworld
    @freedeworld Před 4 lety +7

    I just came back from a trip in Nagasaki. Visited the A-bomb museum. I could not help but balled my eyes out reading those letters written by the citizens after watching their kids and wife/ husband got burnt alive/ died from radiation/ shock wave blast. It was an emotional experience.

    • @Frank040675
      @Frank040675 Před 4 lety +1

      And so it should be for any decent human being.

    • @Sotisesnygg
      @Sotisesnygg Před 4 lety +2

      I would recommend watching Grave of the fireflies

    • @magnetiktrax
      @magnetiktrax Před 4 lety +4

      ​@teledine it's like modern day capitalists trying to say that capitalism is good but totally not mentioning Hiroshima, Nagasaki, the US at war for 222 of its 239 year history, the illegal invations by capitalist nations into countries like Iraq and Afghanistan to steal their natural resources.
      Amazing forgetfulness.

    • @freedeworld
      @freedeworld Před 4 lety

      Sotisesnygg watched it when I was 6. Not your typical cartoon for kids.

    • @phamnuwen9442
      @phamnuwen9442 Před 4 lety +2

      @@magnetiktrax The bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were moral acts of self defense as was the US participation in WWII in general. The US has fought many wars simply because the rest of the world keeps starting them and they have no choice but to put a stop to it. Obviously Iraq and Afghanistan were questionable and bungled wars but there's zero comparison with the genocides of socialism.

  • @dahthehitman7626
    @dahthehitman7626 Před 4 lety +3

    Love your vids guy

  • @brianwalmsley447
    @brianwalmsley447 Před 4 lety +3

    Good to watch good one guy 👍

  • @planetawesome8791
    @planetawesome8791 Před 4 lety +2

    you are awesome and genuine

  • @DM-hw4cr
    @DM-hw4cr Před 4 lety

    Best episode

  • @paulcraighalliday3413
    @paulcraighalliday3413 Před 2 lety

    love any show with guy in it

  • @coltmagnus6572
    @coltmagnus6572 Před 4 lety +1

    That was an amazing short story. Well done Japan.

  • @Roadkill601
    @Roadkill601 Před 4 lety

    I am both sad and proud at the same time. Amazing

  • @Kekuahiwi
    @Kekuahiwi Před 4 lety +1

    I like Guy’s videos. I’d like ‘em more if they had subtitles.

  • @deeeeeeeench1209
    @deeeeeeeench1209 Před 4 lety +2

    I have watched many hours on my god and you nailed it Guy seeing the building is the best part of the story they aimed for the bridge just to the side of it not a bad shot

  • @lordsmeeshofglencoe8113
    @lordsmeeshofglencoe8113 Před 4 lety +2

    I Loved Hiroshima and japan best place on the planet and decades ahead of the world in term of society

  • @englishkernigit8294
    @englishkernigit8294 Před 4 lety

    As always Guy, you do us Grimbarians proud matey. Great stuff

  • @BeardyBaldyBob
    @BeardyBaldyBob Před 3 lety +1

    If anyone hasn't read it, you should definitely read John Hersey's 1946 piece "Hiroshima" that he won the pulitzer prize for. It's an account of 6 survivors from different parts of the city that he interviewed. It's an amazing read.
    Just whack "Hiroshima new yorker" into Google and it should be the first thing to appear. It was the article mainly responsible for really bringing home the absolute horror of a nuclear blast and the devastating aftermath to the American public.

  • @Steve-bo6ht
    @Steve-bo6ht Před 4 lety +1

    Guy has such respect for world cultures a very Honorable man indeed

    • @johnc3403
      @johnc3403 Před 4 lety +1

      ..and he's very impressed by trams

  • @mrmagoo916
    @mrmagoo916 Před 4 lety

    There is some amazing survival stories.

  • @RickyJr46
    @RickyJr46 Před 4 lety +1

    Seeing images of those slumping steel light poles, softened from the enormous heat, always send chills up my spine. They are silent witnesses of hell on earth.

    • @CooManTunes
      @CooManTunes Před 4 lety

      That 'hell on earth' saved many lives. The ultimate example of sacrifice for the greater good.

  • @yesyes289
    @yesyes289 Před 4 lety +1

    My guy guy

  • @paulnjoo
    @paulnjoo Před 4 lety

    paulnjoo
    2 seconds ago
    I've been there too and I must admit it broke me.
    I found the stories of the children on their way to school getting burnt alive too much to bear.
    The display cases with melted milk bottles and roof slates were unbelievable and the shadow of the guy sitting on the steps of a Bank who was vaporised beggared belief.

  • @jarnosaarinen4583
    @jarnosaarinen4583 Před 4 lety

    Guy Proper!

  • @paulabuchanan2170
    @paulabuchanan2170 Před 4 lety +3

    Very fair and balanced. The Japanese treated POWs apallinglly and are not blameless. The Allies saw no other option. #neveragain

  • @themessenger5868
    @themessenger5868 Před 4 lety

    Thanks Guy ! I guess it says a lot about "fallout" then...

  • @bloke6972
    @bloke6972 Před 4 lety +2

    I saw this guy Guy in clockwork orange...he looks remarkably young.

  • @zzz181085
    @zzz181085 Před 4 lety +1

    A racer gives a better insight than most historians.

    • @MarquisDeSang
      @MarquisDeSang Před rokem

      He is not any racer, he is Guy Marin the legendest amongst legengs.

  • @aleccap8863
    @aleccap8863 Před 4 lety +1

    Come on Guy, I want to buy you a pint and have a good chat with you. You're such a great human and why you're not on TV more ??

  • @scottyenzo
    @scottyenzo Před 4 lety +1

    And look at them now!!!

  • @Hunnalouu
    @Hunnalouu Před 4 lety +1

    anyone else hearing about the trams running only 3 days after for the first time?

  • @ryankelley5160
    @ryankelley5160 Před 3 lety +1

    There is a sobering lesson that is taught at the museum there. It shows the unadulterated horror of war, it shows the fantastic will of the Japanese people to overcome hardship. Most importantly it teaches us the price of war and how it is always a gamble. One must be willing to sacrifice everything in the face of war in order to win. Thankfully the Emperor of Japan saw that the conflict would have only ever ended up with the destruction of his people and culture, and wisely chose to end the conflict. If the war had continued passed the bombings, millions more lives would have been lost. And more terrifyingly a concept, there might not be a Japan today. If the conflict continued Japan may very well have been known as the Pacific Territories of The United States (PTUS) today. It is terribly sad and jarring when you see the sights and listen to the speakers. After it all I learned, that despite the terrible price rendered unto the Japanese people. Hiroshima and Nagasaki saved millions of Japanese and American lives. Many of us owe a price that can never be repaid.

  • @noiamgunner
    @noiamgunner Před 4 lety

    Checkout Fukushima wow

  • @YZ250W1
    @YZ250W1 Před 4 lety +5

    They started it and we finished it. Nothing I’m proud of.

    • @RetedRacing
      @RetedRacing Před 4 lety +5

      Well you should be proud, it was not a decision that was taken lightly.
      Considering the mass suicides of Japanese civilians our soldiers witnessed all across the Pacific because of propaganda sold to them by the empire about US soldiers. Its not hard to see how much more innocent lives would have been lost in an invasion.
      Before this "woke" left wing madness swept over the culture like a plague most historians fully understood pulling that trigger was absolutely necessary.
      And take some time to look into the atrocities against Chinese citizens perpetuated by the Japanese doctors and scientists its on the same level Josef Mengele shit, but no one ever wants to talk about that shit.
      Finally you should absolutely be proud of the # of your forefathers that gave their freedom and their lives to ensure you and yours are free.

    • @RetedRacing
      @RetedRacing Před 4 lety +1

      @Siward Beorn I may care enough to read what you have to say if you manage to form a coherent thought.
      Also, I regret to inform that I could not care less whether you agree with me or not, your ability or rather inability to express your opinions in a coherent thought suggests an emotional 12 yr old or triggered adult with a sub 90IQ.
      Either way, not even worth my time to present to you the facts and evidence of exactly how WW2 kicked off between US and Japan. Go ahead and stay in your fantasy land.

  • @petergriffin4629
    @petergriffin4629 Před 4 lety +1

    Tha is a nation i'n it?
    I love the dude

  • @robert4352
    @robert4352 Před 4 lety

    great job guy the thinking mans Fred you know who i mean did ya like that ?

  • @gikageo1491
    @gikageo1491 Před 4 lety

    Respect to all japanese people from Georgia

  • @jamiecox2506
    @jamiecox2506 Před 4 lety +3

    More in 5 minutes from our Guy than 14 years of education

    • @johnc3403
      @johnc3403 Před 4 lety +1

      Really? If there's even a tiny bit of truth in what you said then I'm very sorry for you.

    • @remotefaith
      @remotefaith Před 4 měsíci

      You can’t learn without being spoon-fed by video content. Sounds like a problem with you rather than your education

  • @redtesta
    @redtesta Před 4 lety +1

    When are you going to pearl harbor? Great video Guy. Like the General of the Japanese Navy ship said, " we have woken a sleeping giant". Are payback was midway but the bomb was the bomb. We know how the thought and type of japanese back then are NOT what Japanese are today. My bestest bud is Japanese, highest amount of respect for him. Guy, do more of these around the world for different historical relevance .

  • @ssabykoops
    @ssabykoops Před 4 lety +12

    only a matter of time till we repeat the same mistakes.

    • @freedeworld
      @freedeworld Před 4 lety +1

      it's crazy right? People don't really change, circumstance does. If we time travelled to that era, we would have done exactly the same shit over again.

    • @chasemedders2523
      @chasemedders2523 Před 4 lety +1

      This wasn’t a mistake

    • @c3aloha
      @c3aloha Před 4 lety

      The MAD theory doesn’t work with Trump. For him it’s the madman theory.

    • @johnc3403
      @johnc3403 Před 4 lety

      not inevitable at all. It is always possible to learn from your mistakes.

  • @Robroscob
    @Robroscob Před 4 lety

    i'm from Australia...where have i seen this dude before?

  • @mans048
    @mans048 Před 4 lety +1

    Brings to mind Grave of the Fireflies which is more about the firebombing of Tokoyo (100,000 dead) where more people died than those at Hiroshima (69,000 - though more died later due to radiation injuries).
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grave_of_the_Fireflies

    • @wrongsprite8856
      @wrongsprite8856 Před 2 lety +1

      Grave of the Fireflies is set in Kobe, around 9,000 deaths in the incendiary bombing.

  • @MrSteveo114
    @MrSteveo114 Před 4 lety +16

    Guy is a little off here, Kamikaze pilots did not want to fly their plane into U.S ships, a minority did but the vast majority of pilots were forced into it or pushed into it some even felt like they had no choice but to do it as they would be dishonoring their family.

    • @huch1966
      @huch1966 Před 4 lety +8

      My Japanese wife had heard this from old relatives, most pilots just returned and said "we couldn't find any ships"

    • @artilleryfire6576
      @artilleryfire6576 Před 4 lety +4

      @@huch1966 thats bloody smart

    • @TrealochLynch
      @TrealochLynch Před 3 lety +1

      Also the Japanese had reached out to the Allies to find a way to surrender. The dropping of the atomic bomb was to send a message to Russia.

    • @ogbobbyjohnson7776
      @ogbobbyjohnson7776 Před 3 lety

      @@TrealochLynch it probably was a message to the Soviet Union, it was also payback for the stab in the back at Pearl Harbor. At the time the Japanese were involved in peace talks with us, even presented us with medals. Out of nowhere the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor. So we sought retribution and we found it in the nuclear attacks. I think if anything we used them cause we had them and we wanted to see the actual devastation in real time on real people, as fucked up as that sounds. They provided us with the perfect target at the time, someone who would two face us at a time of great tension.

  • @rhallnapa
    @rhallnapa Před 4 lety +6

    Another reason for dropping the bomb, to keep Russia from invading Japan. They kept fighting 3 weeks after the war was over trying to take as much land as possible.

    • @tomcharlton586
      @tomcharlton586 Před 4 lety +1

      For a long time i have believed that one of the big reasons for dropping little boy and fat man was because they wanted to show a 20 mile high, mushroom shaped middle finger to the russians

    • @smokingun397
      @smokingun397 Před 4 lety +2

      No it wasn't about stopping Russia from just invading Japan, it was about stopping Russia from being the world's number one superpower as Russia by this time had a massive military

    • @evan8654
      @evan8654 Před 4 lety +3

      Russia never would have invaded Japan and had no plans to. What is your source?

    • @rhallnapa
      @rhallnapa Před 4 lety +1

      E W Towards the end of WW2, Russia invaded and occupied four of the Kuril Islands north of Hokkaido island. They still hold them today. Japan and Russia have still not signed a peace treaty to end WW2. America did not know what Russia was planning.

    • @evan8654
      @evan8654 Před 4 lety +1

      @@rhallnapa America still has a base on Okinawa, I'm talking about mainland Japan. Russia had no proven or existing ability to conduct an amphibious invasion.

  • @bluedogreddogstumpy5868

    So when you getting Oasis back together mate?

  • @pauloconnor7951
    @pauloconnor7951 Před 4 lety +2

    Very sad !. The insanity of war. All war. Man-kind needs to evolve higher . lets do it !

  • @Kreisverkehrdrifter
    @Kreisverkehrdrifter Před 4 lety +17

    GUY MARTIN FOR PRIME MINISTER!

    • @stonedbatman2067
      @stonedbatman2067 Před 4 lety

      Why?

    • @North_Of_Nowhere
      @North_Of_Nowhere Před 4 lety +2

      Why not

    • @guzzibob
      @guzzibob Před 4 lety +2

      `cos you can trust him...and he has honour and fair play

    • @whywatchme2214
      @whywatchme2214 Před 4 lety

      guzzibob you naive little boy. You’re sweet.

    • @guzzibob
      @guzzibob Před 4 lety

      I`m happy with that,better than being bitter ..tbf I have more respect for Guy than any politician I can think of at the moment...obviously he wouldn`t want to join that club in a hurry
      Cheers Why

  • @maximusmx2132
    @maximusmx2132 Před 4 lety +1

    hi

  • @tonygarratt5832
    @tonygarratt5832 Před 4 lety +3

    Guy Martin: 21st century Fred Dibnah

    • @David-lb4te
      @David-lb4te Před 4 lety

      Good grief; Dibnah was an original character, and authority on steam power. He didn't copy anyone. He wrote his own scripts. Not the same, on any level.

  • @tomcreaniceman7426
    @tomcreaniceman7426 Před 4 lety +1

    Vaporised,the marks on the ground,SHOCKING

    • @patrickmclaughlin61
      @patrickmclaughlin61 Před 4 lety

      At least they were gone instantly.
      I saw a memorial piece in the museum of (what I thought was an elderly woman) that had a great many tiny folded (origami) cranes. Myth has it in the Japanese culture that if you fold 1000 cranes you will be healed of whatever ails you. The person who folded all the cranes died of injuries sustained in Hiroshima.
      I later read more of the story a year or so later. I was corrected in my original understanding. It was not an elderly woman but a 7 year old girl.
      War can be very cruel.

  • @sugar4522
    @sugar4522 Před 4 lety

    Hi

  • @oskarslapsa9057
    @oskarslapsa9057 Před 4 lety +2

    I heard the emperor never said "surrender" in his speach

  • @mastermindvideos898
    @mastermindvideos898 Před 4 lety +14

    GUY TRAINS TO BE A CITY

  • @unbearifiedbear1885
    @unbearifiedbear1885 Před 4 lety +24

    They dropped one on Hiroshima... not a word was heard from Japan...
    nothing...
    *not a word...*
    3 days later, they dropped another on Nagasaki...
    still, not a word from Japan...
    Anyway another 3 days went by and _then_ *[* Russia moved *1.5 million men* and *3,500 Tanks* into Manchuria so Emperor Hirohito surrendered *]*

    • @themessenger5868
      @themessenger5868 Před 4 lety +7

      Thankyou. The Soviet's are almost written out of the war they won.

    • @tonyjames5444
      @tonyjames5444 Před 4 lety +9

      Correct, fact is the two bombs only persuaded the Japanese to have talks with MacArthur but they had zero intention of surrendering, their intention was to bleed the Americans dry during the invasion of Japan thereby forcing them to seek an end that wasn't disshonourable.
      MacArthur pointed out to the Japanese that the Russians, (who had just defeated a Japanese army in Manchuria and seized islands to the north of the country), were poised to invade the main northern island of Hokkaido and the Japanese simply couldn't defend it. He also pointed out that when the war ended the Russians unlike allied forces would not withdraw and subsequently the Japanese would forever lose 1/3 of their country, the refusal of Russia to relinquish control of liberated Eastern European countries was proof of that.
      It was this threat that persuaded them to surrender.

    • @themessenger5868
      @themessenger5868 Před 4 lety +4

      @@tonyjames5444 Excellent post...tired of American's claiming the win without acknowledging the Soviet's MASSIVE contribution. If not for the Russians, Europe and where I'm from Australia, would still be in the hands of Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan. I dare say there would have been a massive war fought in the USA in the 1950's as well. But that's just my opinion. Cheers.

    • @unbearifiedbear1885
      @unbearifiedbear1885 Před 4 lety +2

      Posted similar comment on a Mark Felton video.. boyyyyy did I catch some serious heat 😂
      (Edit: Unintentional nuclear bomb pun)

    • @themessenger5868
      @themessenger5868 Před 4 lety +2

      @@unbearifiedbear1885 I'm not surprised, speaking truth these days, as Orwell would say, is becoming a ""revolutionary act".

  • @sviorek4276
    @sviorek4276 Před 4 lety

    One of the deciding factors was 107,000 Japanese soldiers and conscripts died in taking Okinawa. The Japanese soldiers died rather than surrender and we were afraid of having to fight every person in the Japanese islands to the last man and woman.

  • @funofboredom
    @funofboredom Před 4 lety +15

    Could have been prevented if the Japanese war criminals surrendered earlier. They were warned. Even after Hiroshima they still didn't want to surrender.

    • @freedeworld
      @freedeworld Před 4 lety +3

      That was the version I heard growing up. Another version I read recently suggested that the A bomb was dropped without fore warning, and that the Japanese was going to surrender regardless of the A bomb. Multiple scientists wrote letter to the gov and advised against the use of A bomb too. I am not sure which is true.

    • @funofboredom
      @funofboredom Před 4 lety +9

      @@freedeworld from what I've read, they only wanted to surrender on their own terms, which meant retaining control of territories like my country. Fuck that. That would have been like Wolfenstein but instead of the "nut sees" controlling America, it would be the Japanese controlling Asia. For some reason CZcams blocks words like, "hollow coz," and, "nut sees." I typed another really long reply and it disappeared.

    • @jillsmcfarland2001
      @jillsmcfarland2001 Před 4 lety

      That is pure propaganda lies.You wouldn't be the same if you heard the truth about all of the wars. $$$$$$$

    • @MrWalker1000
      @MrWalker1000 Před 4 lety +1

      @@freedeworld yes and the Japanese were going to surrender anyways when they heard about the soviet union invading from the north

    • @c3aloha
      @c3aloha Před 4 lety +3

      MC Ho I don’t think that’s true. Hard core factions of the IJA even were going to attack the emperor to prevent him from surrendering. Leaflets were dropped on the cities warning them. But no one could comprehend the power of the a bomb until it was used. More people were killed by firebombing Tokyo.

  • @richie4561
    @richie4561 Před 3 lety

    the reason the bomb was dropped was twofold. firstly, (no necessarily the most important) for every Japanese soldier that surrendered, 17 yes 17 soldiers fought to the death. Iwo Jima confirmed this with 6,800 deaths. the casualty rate could not be justified. secondly, they wanted to see if it would work and they had 2 designs which is partly why the second one was dropped, well that and japan had not surrendered

  • @davidmesser8619
    @davidmesser8619 Před 4 lety +8

    It was estimated that the u.s. alone would have lost 2.5 million troops if we would have invaded the Japanese islands. That's dead troops. There would have been another 5 million casualties. Half of that number injuries and the other half PTSD. It was discovered that the Japanese had their own nuclear program. It had to be done, yet I hope it never happens again. Vaughn

    • @thesoultwins72
      @thesoultwins72 Před 4 lety +3

      David Messer...…….mmm, whilst it is true that the Americans [and Allies] knew that the Japanese would fight to the bitter end and prolong the war indefinitely - this was not the only [and very possibly, not the main] reason for using the bomb on Japan. The USA together with Great Britain and Canada had started the 'Manhattan Project' in 1942 as they were deeply concerned that the Germans were developing a nuclear bomb. [German chemists Otto Hahn and Fritz Strassmann had discovered nuclear fission in 1938 - and Germany almost certainly had the world's leading scientists in this field at the time].
      It was sheer serendipity that the Germans surrendered before they had the opportunity to use their nuclear device - but this left the USA [as well as Britain and Canada] with the finished article having spent unlimited financial resources and manpower on its development, but no potential 'target'. So the USA/Allies decided to drop one bomb on Japan - thinking this would force the Japanese to surrender. However and to their great surprise, there was absolutely no reaction from Emperor Hirohito. Even more worryingly, the Soviet Union declared war on Japan two days later.
      There is a very compelling argument therefore that the decision to drop a second nuclear bomb on Japan was to send a 'strong warning message' to the Russians that the USA & Britain had a nuclear capability and were not afraid to use it. Indeed, it could be argued that the act of the nuclear bombing of Japan was the first 'shots in the Cold War'. The irony was that the Russians were still months behind in the development of their own nuclear bomb.

    • @davidmesser8619
      @davidmesser8619 Před 4 lety +1

      @@thesoultwins72 Thank you for your reply. The Russians were at about the same stage in their development process as the Japanese. We had bombed the German facilities in 1944 in Norway. We did have to drop a second bomb. I agree with you in regards with the fact that it also was dropped as a show to the Russians. A little intimidation goes a long way. The sad thing is that it also convinced the Russians of their need of nuclear weapons. The reason that we have so many nuclear power plants is because we had a need for plutonium. Which is a waste byproduct of the nuclear process. I wish that we had chosen fission for our power plants. Fukushima and Chernobyl are prime examples of why we should not have fusion powered plants. I know that I am shooting with a scatter gun right now so I'm going to end with me thanking you for your insightful comments. Vaughn

  • @overthewebb
    @overthewebb Před 3 lety +1

    I love Japan, really love the culture and people, but at that time due to Bushido and the shame of surrender in Japanese culture and this meant people would rather die than surrender in Bushido. It was the right thing to do.

  • @jameswalker3073
    @jameswalker3073 Před 4 lety

    Omg I can't believe that people have unliked this video!

    • @johnc3403
      @johnc3403 Před 4 lety

      Why? ..maybe they are more concerned with the victims than the trams.

  • @Pedro8k
    @Pedro8k Před 4 lety +1

    Guy tells it how it is how come he not got a obe in recognition yet

  • @timlerminiaux2346
    @timlerminiaux2346 Před 3 lety +3

    Just think about Pearl Harbor before you start feeling sympathetic for the Japanese. SEMPER FI

  • @vtt5000
    @vtt5000 Před 4 lety +1

    That picture at 2:33. Is that a soldier about to be executed?

    • @leeneale8776
      @leeneale8776 Před 4 lety

      Yes Australian commando Leonard Siffleet

    • @vtt5000
      @vtt5000 Před 4 lety

      @@leeneale8776 :(

  • @alexalexander1
    @alexalexander1 Před 4 lety +1

    Didn't the firebombing of Tokyo earlier that year (I believe it was in March) take more lives than Hiroshima, Nagasaki or even Dresden?

    • @johnc3403
      @johnc3403 Před 4 lety +1

      Jesus Dale.. That doesn't suit the narrative at all! Keeps your facts to yourself dude...

    • @tcrime
      @tcrime Před 4 lety

      Yep. 250,000 people I believe.

  • @Godhatzacoward
    @Godhatzacoward Před 4 lety +3

    Now go to Pearl Harbor....if you haven't already....putting the horse before the kart seems "improper".

  • @bombora69WA
    @bombora69WA Před 4 lety +1

    The Japanese did learn from their previous aggression. They are mostly very polite and friendly now. It is a wonderful place to visit.

  • @Strrazor
    @Strrazor Před 4 lety +10

    My uncle fought ww2 he said they would 100 soldiers charging he they would mow them down then the would send 100 more go all night trying to run them out of ammo

    • @Frank040675
      @Frank040675 Před 4 lety +3

      Not unlike the brilliant military tactics employed in the trench warfare of WW1 then.

    • @mybackhurts7020
      @mybackhurts7020 Před 4 lety +1

      the nukes saved lives in the long run

  • @SirLoinofBeef235
    @SirLoinofBeef235 Před 4 lety +1

    Same Guy Martin of Isle of Mann fame?

  • @InspectorGadget1976
    @InspectorGadget1976 Před 4 lety +1

    His dates are wrong about the surrender speech. Hiroshima was on the 6th of August. Nagasaki was the 9th. The surrender speech was broadcast on the 15th which was SIX days after Nagasaki.

  • @triple6758
    @triple6758 Před 3 lety +2

    Maybe stop and visit the USS Nevada on the way home for perspective.

  • @highlands
    @highlands Před 4 lety +17

    I don't feel any sympathy. I come from a town in Scotland which was the recruiting hub for a regiment caught up in Japans invasion of Singapore.
    Some were murdered in hospital beds, those unlucky enough to survive were treated to the most inhumane treatment in POW camps. Many of those were worked to death, treated worse than slaves.
    Those that returned home were often never the same. I have strong memories of old men shuddering and shaking their way down the road 50 years after their experiences. Japan, to this day, still refuses to come to terms with their actions during the war.
    I'm afraid to say that when I see the cracked dome I don't see the horror of the atom bomb, I see a nation that reaped the whirlwind.

    • @Ghost572
      @Ghost572 Před 4 lety

      @@themessenger5868 Yeah agreed, says a lot about those fuckers, especially as that sort of brutal execution had ended a few hundred years ago in other countries and these guys don't give a shit. Its pathetic, if they are going to execute someone do it quickly not pissing around. I also don't give a shit if it was their culture, its flat out wrong.

    • @tcrime
      @tcrime Před 4 lety +2

      Hm, it's almost as if war turns people into monsters and should be avoided at all costs? Imagine that.

    • @tcrime
      @tcrime Před 4 lety

      @@themessenger5868 Tell that to the Jews.

    • @Blomrutger
      @Blomrutger Před 3 lety +2

      Yes the pow camps were absolute horrors. But that is not an excuse for genocide. Most of the 140.000 people were innocent. It is a war crime and always will be. We proved to be no better than the japanese when those bombs were dropped. Unfortunately history is always told from the winning perspective.

    • @ago7371
      @ago7371 Před 3 lety +1

      War is just bad. We all lose.

  • @mic7able
    @mic7able Před 4 lety

    They did NOT start preparing more atomic bombs after Nagasaki. The project was depleted. It was a gamble.
    Scouse cheekiness or not, get it right.

  • @johnbroadbent1609
    @johnbroadbent1609 Před 3 lety

    My Grandfather suffered at the hands of the Japanese in Burma. Maybe the Dome needs to stand as a reminder of the consequences of peoples actions...such a nice bloke is Guy..does everything with respect..

  • @kaneholmes8860
    @kaneholmes8860 Před 4 lety +1

    Actually that's incorrect.
    The Japanese surrendered in the same hour the bomb was dropped on Nagasaki

  • @TheClassifiedMan
    @TheClassifiedMan Před 4 lety

    It was an atomic bomb Guy lol

  • @nicklehne7486
    @nicklehne7486 Před 4 lety +2

    Never forget Nanking!

  • @wiperiser1
    @wiperiser1 Před 3 lety +1

    da ein a nation, ein it?

  • @tomhenry897
    @tomhenry897 Před rokem

    Go to Nanking, the rail road Japan built in SE Asia, Manila
    All places where Japan commented mass murders

  • @studioROT
    @studioROT Před 3 lety

    Guy is right about why the US dropped the bomb. But there was a second reason too: to show the soviets what the US was capable of. It was effectively the start of the Cold War.

  • @takai611
    @takai611 Před 3 lety +1

    I hear my ancestry migrated to America right before the japanese attacked pearl harbor! If it weren't for their decision I would've never been born!

  • @subliminaljuggernaut7278
    @subliminaljuggernaut7278 Před 2 lety +1

    if japan had made the atomic bomb first theyd have used it with glee over and over and as many times as they could and even celibrate it today as a national day of joy. Theyd likely say it was the personification of their emporerer as a sun god. A Japanese program to develop nuclear weapons was conducted during World War II. Like the German nuclear weapons program, it suffered from an array of problems, and was ultimately unable to progress beyond the laboratory stage before the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki and the Japanese surrender in August 1945.
    Additionally, the japanese had intended to use biolological weapons of mass destruction on the USA, which were the results of live livisections without anasthetic and experiments involving chemical and biological weapons conducted on live POWS and civilians by unit 731 and unit 516, but the attempts failed twice when the submarines intended to deliver the deadly pathogens were sunk by uss swordfish, and the gliders intended to deliver the pathogens by air failed. A new attempt was planned which was intended to kill millions, but the americans dropped the atomic bombs forcing japan to surrender.

  • @recurf7492
    @recurf7492 Před 4 lety

    I think its good, to understand why the nuclear bombs were dropped. More lives were saved because of them, it sounds paradoxical but its true. An invasion or Japan would have lasted years and millions would have died.

  • @kevinbelho115
    @kevinbelho115 Před 4 lety +10

    America forcing a country to learn the word surrender when it's not even in their vocabulary.

    • @mybackhurts7020
      @mybackhurts7020 Před 4 lety

      Kevin Cringe when a mosquito bites did you just let it?
      NO you smash that fucker with a giant hand so it never does again

    • @buddyhirshfield5970
      @buddyhirshfield5970 Před 4 lety

      If you want some balance look up baton death march

  • @Litheon11
    @Litheon11 Před 4 lety +10

    The reason for dropping the bombs was simple mathematics.. it would have cost many more lives trying to invade. It's that simple. Dropping the bombs saved many lives.. sad as it is.

    • @CooManTunes
      @CooManTunes Před 4 lety +1

      WELL, YOU GOTTA KILL AN ANIMAL TO EAT SOME DELICIOUS MEAT. :)

    • @maxweisel9027
      @maxweisel9027 Před 4 lety

      *American lives

    • @ant2312
      @ant2312 Před 4 lety

      @@maxweisel9027 *world lives

    • @maxweisel9027
      @maxweisel9027 Před 4 lety

      @@ant2312 Harry Truman dropped the bombs to save American lives specifically but it probably still was world lives saved.

  • @bluemawks
    @bluemawks Před 4 lety

    do not attack hawaii

  • @towhitby1
    @towhitby1 Před 4 lety

    They should have done Tokyo!

  • @glennabarry1261
    @glennabarry1261 Před 4 lety

    Ya three days and they are running....... That's a red flag

    • @THENAMEISQUICKMAN
      @THENAMEISQUICKMAN Před 3 lety

      Not really a red flag. The Japanese went "right, shit happened, let's fix it". Three days and the Japanese were recovering from a pair of nukes. 20 years down the line, USA still think 9/11 is the most horrible thing to ever happen to the world.

  • @stefanbrown8176
    @stefanbrown8176 Před 4 lety

    The voice over block sounds like he has a chest infection

  • @stooshiemax1756
    @stooshiemax1756 Před 4 lety +1

    Guy's view on the war crime of bombing a civilian target, is sadly limited.
    Just as with Dresden, if you win you are not held accountable.

    • @derektrotter4287
      @derektrotter4287 Před 4 lety +1

      How would you have dealt with Japan?

    • @happycamper4185
      @happycamper4185 Před 4 lety +6

      And what about the war crimes of japan the inhumane treatment of prisoners torture starvation amputation etc i had family that fought
      over there as did family of friends they were never the same when they came back for what they saw and what was done to them.

    • @stooshiemax1756
      @stooshiemax1756 Před 4 lety +3

      @@derektrotter4287 By conventional means, and waiting for Japan's surrender which was a matter of weeks away.
      But the USA was eager, and in a hurry, to try out it's new weapon regardless.

    • @stooshiemax1756
      @stooshiemax1756 Před 4 lety +4

      @@happycamper4185 In war, atrocities are committed by all sides.
      Winning does not absolve you of your crimes.
      It continues today.
      Veterans return home, and cannot live with their actions.
      Such morality, is not shared by the State.

    • @RetedRacing
      @RetedRacing Před 4 lety +1

      @@derektrotter4287 He probably would've bowed and proceeded to give them a handy.

  • @SceneArtisan
    @SceneArtisan Před 4 lety +6

    Made in Japan - Nuke proof.

  • @extremistcontent1337
    @extremistcontent1337 Před 4 lety

    This is why Iran should never be allowed nuclear weapons

    • @phamnuwen9442
      @phamnuwen9442 Před 4 lety +1

      Because they can use them to finish World War 2?

  • @London1064
    @London1064 Před 4 lety +1

    Great video by Top Man Guy. However the atomic bomb was dropped at 08.15 Hours and not 09.45 Hours.

    • @oldwaitekauri
      @oldwaitekauri Před 4 lety

      I think he said 1945

    • @London1064
      @London1064 Před 4 lety

      Old Waitekauri Thank you my friend. Sounded like 09.45, my mistake 👍