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  • @TBSkyenShorts
    @TBSkyenShorts  Před rokem +2521

    Some reasons Umbreon is Good Actually that got brought up in the comments:
    1. It's Egyptian and designed after Anubis and representing Egyptian iconography related to the moon. (The moon is not represented with empty circles in Egyptian iconography, but with crescents. Anubis' symbol is an ankh, and he isn't associated with the moon either.)
    2. The yellow circles represent the moon generally and/or a lunar eclipse and Umbreon has pokédex entries connecting it to the moon. (The circles still look random and scribbled, and even in Japanese culture, the moon is most commonly represented as a crescent. _Solar_ eclipses are associated with dark circles ringed by light, lunar eclipses are associated with blood red and crescents.)
    3. It was originally supposed to be a poison type and the rings were meant to imitate the warning signals of animals like the Blue Ring Octopus. (Umbreon isn't a poison type, so being designed like one doesn't help it very much.)
    4. "Dark" in Japan is "evil" so it's supposed to look evil instead. (Fair enough, I guess? The yellow markings are still unmotivated and don't carry any menace, imo. Compare with Malamar or Morpeko re: using color markings for a sense of menace or evil.)
    5. The yellow circles glow sometimes and it looks cool. (I genuinely can't argue with that, actually, you're right.)

    • @18Krieger
      @18Krieger Před rokem +34

      They also look like markings on cloth to be more visible in the dark.

    • @jamaldavis2480
      @jamaldavis2480 Před rokem +1

      It may be officially dark type, but it is still canonically poisonous. Specifically its sweat is poisonous.

    • @DivineBanana
      @DivineBanana Před rokem +149

      Just found an interesting tidbit in the Bulbapedia
      "Whenever Umbreon gets angry, it secretes and sprays poisonous sweat into the offender's eyes to protect itself. "
      So they did keep some of the poison theme, but in it's lore rather than it's gameplay

    • @beyondtrash1627
      @beyondtrash1627 Před rokem +164

      Yellow is a pretty normal color to depict the moon. That's obviously the inspiration here. I love how much you read into things, but here I think you've gotten too far in your own head and over thought a relatively simple design.
      At least that's personally what I feel.

    • @AshenPeach
      @AshenPeach Před rokem +57

      It's obvious that the rings refer to the moon, right? Why are there taks about it bring Egyptian, or octopus, or other bullshit. The rings refer to the moon, the pointy ears and tail gives umbreon a sharper feel, like how you need sharp eyes to see in the dark. Also the rings glow in the dark iirc, which helps attract preys. Lastly, the rings is changed from yellow to blue in the shiny form which refers to the saying "once in a blue moon".
      And the shiny form is why umbreon is one of the most liked eeveelutions. Unlike the other eeveelutions and pokemons, there's taught put into the shiny form. They didn't just spin the color wheel and hope for the best. Sure it's not a mind breaking change, but at least it's something. Once you get it, it's going to be stuck inside your head.

  • @irishpotato599
    @irishpotato599 Před rokem +3196

    I feel like the yellow colors are supposed to represent the color of the moon which is depicted as yellow sometimes. This pokemon does evolve at night so I guess those colors reflect that?
    edit: i nearly forgot i left this here uh. Thanks for the likes and replies ig. I guess people really liked my thoughts about it.

    • @sharlockshacolmes9381
      @sharlockshacolmes9381 Před rokem +81

      I think there is a pokedex entry that says it represent the moon

    • @javiermetal66
      @javiermetal66 Před rokem +71

      Also, they glow in the dark

    • @shytendeakatamanoir9740
      @shytendeakatamanoir9740 Před rokem +23

      It's like the one on Ursaring so you may have a point.

    • @TheSquareheadgamer
      @TheSquareheadgamer Před rokem +26

      Umbreaon was planned to be a poison type. The rings were originally purple. But they changed it to dark type so the rings being moons was a pretty good change to not have to entirely reinvent the design

    • @furrypupsangel5446
      @furrypupsangel5446 Před rokem +11

      I think there was a scene where an umbreon glowed in the dark for it’s trainer so they could see. I guess this also ties into the fact that umbreon evolves at night with high level of friendship, so I tend to see it like this: Umbreon evolves so that it may light it’s trainer’s path at night and protect them from anything that might harm them. Which could be a reason why they are so slender rather than fluffy, while you can be an active protector Pokémon that is fluffy I think it being slender just drives home that idea even more.
      Also to tie into the moon shape idea, the moon helps illuminate our paths at night, which also drives home that umbreon is meant to help and protect us at night.

  • @Xepscern
    @Xepscern Před rokem +1069

    Umbreon is so sharp because, being Dark Type, they are obnoxiously edgy

    • @Chronostra
      @Chronostra Před rokem +10

      Ey no diss on 'breon, ya?

    • @shytendeakatamanoir9740
      @shytendeakatamanoir9740 Před rokem +6

      But somehow, it has major bulk but no offense, because they are rounded pointy bits.

    • @hownot2junk803
      @hownot2junk803 Před rokem +27

      Dark-Types are edgy..?
      Tf goin on with Alolan Raticate?

    • @conejitorosada2326
      @conejitorosada2326 Před rokem +3

      I mean.. I'm pretty sure the dark type is called the Evil type in Japan Soo being edgy gives it a feel of untrustworthiness

    • @monstermaker73
      @monstermaker73 Před rokem +2

      @@Chronostra Nah.

  • @CadekFenrir
    @CadekFenrir Před rokem +1095

    I think it would help to remember that a more direct translation for the Japanese version of the Dark type would be "Evil" Type. The type as a whole is more along the lines of mischievous, dubious, duplicitous characteristics than literal darkness and shadows. With that in mind I feel like the red eyes and the pointy ears and tail do give it a more edgy vibe that meshes with the dark typing but I agree that the yellow bands are a bit of a miss. the forehead circle always reminded me of a new moon or an eclipse to go with it evolving at night but idk.

    • @Substantial-hf1rm
      @Substantial-hf1rm Před rokem +39

      That always bothered me because gamefreak plays it so fast and lose with what they consider "Evil" type worthy that the type ends up too broad to have cohesion other than being mean and usually having a black color scheme. In a weird way the vague idea of dark kinda ends up making more sense for most mon.

    • @boserboser6870
      @boserboser6870 Před rokem +20

      @@Substantial-hf1rm its a little bit like normal and figthting type in my view. a catch all for non ghostly more viscous mons. capturing darkness, illomen and outwardly unfriendly. Outsiders.
      I think absol, houndoom and incineroar/scraggy caputure range of the type best.
      Absol showing that how a pokemon is percieved is more important to it being a dark type than anything. Being a misunderstood messenger warning disaster but thought to cause it.
      Houndoom being a more viscous dog than arkanine.
      Incineroar captures the perception role again as a wrestling heel putting on a show rather than being maliscous. Scraggy being a misfit that just wants to bash people with its head because its proud wants to show off.

    • @chrayez
      @chrayez Před rokem +26

      I think people go too hard on the “the dark type in Japanese actually means ‘evil’” line and don’t acknowledge that Japanese is a very nuanced language. Yes the word by itself means “evil” (and that is an important aspect to convey to English-speakers who might otherwise think simply of “the opposite of light”), but in other contexts it can also carry a connotation of literal darkness. Game Freak have explored both aspects of the Dark type in various Pokémon designs.

    • @cinnastag
      @cinnastag Před rokem +2

      The yellow bands are because they glow through the power of the moon

    • @muntu1221
      @muntu1221 Před rokem +5

      @@Substantial-hf1rm Because it's not literally villainous "evil". Look at the moves. It's mischief, cruelty, sneakiness, or literal darkness. It's pretty consistent across the board BECAUSE it's a broad type. Plus, most dark types are dual types, so you can't separate why it's "evil" from its other typing.
      Take Houndoom, for example. While it's clearly a hellhound, it also has flames that cause blistering sores that never heal. It's cruel. Incineroar is a heel wrestler with honor. But when it gets going, it's brutal. Malamar is just straight up evil, but that evil manifests as mind control. Darkrai is mysterious and prefers isolation. Its powers are perceived as evil, but the pokemon itself is pretty peaceful. It's a natural evil.

  • @BlinkoutIRL
    @BlinkoutIRL Před rokem +1596

    Me: "There are no wrong opinions."
    **sees this short**
    Me: "There is ONE wrong opinion."

    • @pokaay3163
      @pokaay3163 Před rokem +89

      Umbreon is my fave, look how they massacred my boy 😭

    • @joshspeed8404
      @joshspeed8404 Před rokem +20

      Exactly what I thought. This Guy needs a ROAST

    • @hanamoonshadow5220
      @hanamoonshadow5220 Před rokem +9

      It’s not nice to pick on my fave dark type, umbreon didn’t need this criticism

    • @samuelitor8654
      @samuelitor8654 Před rokem +15

      No because, I agree. Umbreon low key looks so dope😭 I’ve never seen anyone dislike it’s design like this

    • @VeganSanatani
      @VeganSanatani Před rokem +17

      @@joshspeed8404 now now guys, let's not make a fuss about a someone's opinion on a videogame character

  • @DevvyHEX
    @DevvyHEX Před rokem +962

    it's okay to be wrong sometimes Skyen..

    • @Graxil
      @Graxil Před rokem +43

      My thoughts exactly. I think he has some very interesting takes, but some are completely off the mark. Umbreon is not even my fav eeveelution, but I must admit it’s the best one visually

    • @squares4u
      @squares4u Před rokem +27

      @@Graxil Hard disagree. I think it’s actually the weakest design wise of the Eeveelutions. With the others, you can immediately tell what type they are, especially Vaporeon Flareon and Jolteon. Umbreon looks like… black dog/fox with some yellow markings.

    • @Mendejito
      @Mendejito Před rokem +6

      @@Graxil it’s the weakest design for me but I still like it

    • @scootermcpeanuts6699
      @scootermcpeanuts6699 Před rokem +3

      Personally I’m really not a huge fan of either of the johto eeveelutions, not really a fan of them in general but these two just look like eevee deviantart basses with the dark and psychic type slapped on them.

    • @ultrarad954
      @ultrarad954 Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@scootermcpeanuts6699espeon isn’t that bad you can tell it’s psychic type with the weird and almost alien looking design that is many times associated with psychic and them gem in the forehead is also the same deal (except Golduck for some reason) but yeah umbreon is just black dog with yellow on it.

  • @danielep.4076
    @danielep.4076 Před rokem +736

    first time I've had such a visceral disagreement with you on one of these. I understand where you're coming from with your criticisms, and maybe it's just nostalgia, but umbreon slaps. a lot of ppl have already talked about the moon references with the yellow markings, and the fact that dark type isn't actually about shadows so much as mischief/"evil". I agree that the yellow markings could've used a little more work in terms of placement/design, but they certainly don't look like random scribbles to me. fwiw, I do think umbreon looks better in 2d than 3d, which may have affected your opinion. nothing but respect for you and your opinions though!

    • @placeadrien5566
      @placeadrien5566 Před rokem +38

      this is such a polite disagreement

    • @the4th614
      @the4th614 Před rokem +13

      sorry umbreon incredibly mid

    • @TehGoldylockz
      @TehGoldylockz Před rokem +42

      Wholeheartedly agree. I think he sometimes gets his own interpretation of what is “right and wrong” for certain themes and forgets that there are multiple ways to do similar concepts.
      Also everyone loves umbreon it’s easily a fan fave and I wonder if it’s fan fave status makes him want to be more critical?

    • @jamesguzman91
      @jamesguzman91 Před rokem +23

      I can agree with you on the 2D-3dDaspect. A lot of pokemon definitely didnt translate well in the jump from 2D to 3D. I personally prefer the 2D style more because some of the poses slapped.

    • @soulglitcher
      @soulglitcher Před rokem +12

      Bruh, everyone loves Umbreon. Agreed.

  • @Milkiia
    @Milkiia Před rokem +57

    I think him and espeon are suppose to contrast one another. They have the same « I see more then you know » feel to them but expresse in two opposite way. The markings on his forehead mimick a third eye the same way the jewel on espeon does

  • @stormwarrior5362
    @stormwarrior5362 Před rokem +169

    I find Umbreon to have a really cool design. The yellow circles always made me think they were glowing as a contrast to the black fur. The red eyes have the same effect as if Umbreon is a piece of the night staring at me ready to strike. tl;dr It’s cool

    • @Invisifly2
      @Invisifly2 Před 9 měsíci

      They actually can glow too.
      Fun odd fact, umbreon sweats poison for some reason.

  • @firstwaddledee9182
    @firstwaddledee9182 Před rokem +16

    Your trying to tell me Umbreon isn’t the pinnacle of eeveelution design? That the simple dark body with very predator like features, even more so than other eeveelutions, to invoke the idea of a deadly nocturnal hunter, the yellow bands that look fantastic and fantastical and give it a memorable trademark amongst the other somewhat generic choices for an evolution, and the red eyes that emphasize the evil concept that the dark type leans toward, and the cylindrical ears and tail that are clearly unrealistic fantasy nonsense that somehow feel completely natural, isn’t a great eeveelution? Can’t buy it.

    • @atristand5603
      @atristand5603 Před rokem +1

      I cant tell if this is satire or if i should send a 🤓

    • @firstwaddledee9182
      @firstwaddledee9182 Před rokem +1

      @@atristand5603 well, I was clearly exaggerating and the over explanation was part of the joke, but I do still think it’s a really good design.

  • @CrookiNari
    @CrookiNari Před rokem +9

    I love that Umbreon is one of the few Dark types not associated with evil/malice, but rather it's Dark because it evolves in the moonlight.

  • @osvaldoguzman5641
    @osvaldoguzman5641 Před rokem +76

    I don't know, I like umbreon's design. It's simple yet the yellow bands and circles with those red eyes gives an aura of mysticism, of something out of the ocult... i dunno, it's perfect to me, there's something unconfortable about it and I love that

    • @DivineBanana
      @DivineBanana Před rokem +3

      Considering that Umbreon literally gets Mystical powers from the Moon, seems like a good design to me! Hit the nail on the head.

    • @sycariummoonshine7134
      @sycariummoonshine7134 Před rokem

      Exactly!!! It's the feeling of "somethings wrong with it" that makes it so unique. And then, it 1v6s your entire OU smogon team in showdown. :DD

  • @lucas_oreki5287
    @lucas_oreki5287 Před rokem +193

    I don't really know why but Umbreon was always one of my favorites of the eeveelutions. But it would definitely be a lot cooler if instead of only at night, the stripes would have actually glown in this icy blue the whole time

  • @danielguimaraes6006
    @danielguimaraes6006 Před rokem +63

    I really think that the contrast with the yellows is really spot on. Maybe the best their could do

  • @Aleet5911
    @Aleet5911 Před rokem +266

    When your scandanavian character design chad tears apart your favorite eeveelution:Ive been stabbed in the heart, thank you daddy.

    • @rarefishtycoon6430
      @rarefishtycoon6430 Před rokem +20

      You can still like designs that dont have strong meaning

    • @spiritache
      @spiritache Před rokem +12

      why would you call a random CZcamsr "daddy", that's like, weird??

    • @thetestinggrounds7855
      @thetestinggrounds7855 Před rokem +5

      @@spiritache So? Adds to the humor. Lol

    • @spiritache
      @spiritache Před rokem

      @@thetestinggrounds7855 not imo, but you do you!

    • @thetestinggrounds7855
      @thetestinggrounds7855 Před rokem +5

      @@spiritache Yeah but at least consider not dissing people just cuz you can.

  • @CosmicMusicX
    @CosmicMusicX Před rokem +11

    Something that really sold the Umbreon design for me is how it's portrayed in Pokemon colosseum. There, the "yellow" parts of Umbreon glow on and off which gives it an eerie vibe imo.

  • @FatalityPWN
    @FatalityPWN Před rokem +108

    The yellow bands and markings represent the moon dude, being dark like the night but holding some of the moons power being evolved from the dark. It really fits the whole mood of the preist dancers where you first encounter it in battle.

    • @tyshawnstubbs9315
      @tyshawnstubbs9315 Před rokem +8

      @@franciscoaguirre96 Umbreon is a gen 2 pokemon. Dark types got released in gen 2 not gen 1 (Since dark didn't exist in gen 1)

    • @pantherpopel551
      @pantherpopel551 Před rokem +6

      How does any of that REMOTELY look like a moon, homie?

    • @DivineBanana
      @DivineBanana Před rokem +15

      @@pantherpopel551 look up druidic moon glyphs then look at the symbol for fall moon

    • @gorade1901
      @gorade1901 Před rokem

      ​​@@DivineBanana To add to this, I'm guessing if you were to draw that symbol on a darker background, like any rock for instance, you'd use a bright color. Hence why the colors would be reversed here.
      Can I say for certain they had that symbol in mind? No. Did I still immediately as a child think it was a moon anyway? Yes.

    • @guayasplm4496
      @guayasplm4496 Před rokem

      ​@@pantherpopel551You HAVE to be blind dude...

  • @JohnNoirSmith
    @JohnNoirSmith Před rokem +14

    Had to come to the comment section on this one to see the responses

  • @Samantha_yyz
    @Samantha_yyz Před rokem +28

    I've always liked Umbeon more than most eevelutions, especially if the gen 1 and 2 options.
    For a Dark Type it feels like it has a slightly uncharacteristic elegance to it compared to most Dark Types. Which I think goes well with its night and moon theming. The gold circles also give it an air of otherness, like Espeon, that it has some fantastical ability to wield a strange power.
    Plus it's got a more cat like aesthetic and I like that over the dog aesthetic of other eevees.
    TLDR Umbreon is elegant mysterious moon kitty and I like that

  • @No-ScopeNibbligan
    @No-ScopeNibbligan Před rokem +254

    Me: i love tbskyen’s analysis of character design its so well thought out
    Tb: umbreon bad
    Me: ………….

    • @Eat_shit--die_mad
      @Eat_shit--die_mad Před rokem +11

      His Jolteon take was so bad too

    • @No-ScopeNibbligan
      @No-ScopeNibbligan Před rokem +20

      @@Eat_shit--die_mad i mean he is allowed to have his opinions. I just like how umbreon looks :)

    • @galvsparks6295
      @galvsparks6295 Před rokem +6

      @@Eat_shit--die_mad heh idk even if I would disagree, I can’t call it bad because he actually explains it instead of saying "jolteon bad"

    • @damienearl8302
      @damienearl8302 Před rokem +1

      To be fair...it's a bit hard to put that much thought into a critique of such a simple design-
      That'd be like giving a plate of hash browns to a judge on Chopped

    • @Umbreon627
      @Umbreon627 Před měsícem

      @@No-ScopeNibbliganI like his design too but I mean he didn’t have to really insult him “he looks like he got scribbled on” I mean like that’s a bit annoying to me 😞

  • @creature6715
    @creature6715 Před rokem +88

    The yellow markings represent the moon, i don't understand how you've missed that detail entirely, considering you talk about character design as much as you do

    • @WolffyChanTV
      @WolffyChanTV Před rokem +17

      Also the fact that they glow for hunting in the darkness

    • @wasabilover1293
      @wasabilover1293 Před rokem +8

      @@WolffyChanTV and that it looks a bit like Anubis

    • @gorade1901
      @gorade1901 Před rokem +9

      Well if you haven't read the pinned comment yet, you have your answer. It's not a crescent or a colored in circle so it's not a moon.
      Given how much he talks about whether a design effectively conveys an idea, if *_this_* many people, myself included, immediately drew the connection to the moon as if it were obvious, doesn't that prove that the message was mostly conveyed?

    • @villager0026
      @villager0026 Před rokem +2

      The yellow marking clearly represents onion rings

  • @loupe500
    @loupe500 Před rokem +9

    I feel like you are taking dark type as “shadowy and creepy”, while umbreon is taking the aproach of dark type as “night and moon”. The yellow bands represent the moon, and it’s sharp yet well behaved tails and ears represent the calmness and elegance of the night. Generally I do think you go spot on in the critics, while I do disagree sometimes I often can see your point, but this time I think you just missed the point of the pokemon. Darkness doesn’t always need to be edgy and represent horror and shadows, it can represent night or mystery.

  • @navisakura7374
    @navisakura7374 Před rokem +13

    I respect Skyen a lot but as an artist Umbreon is one of the best designed Eeveelutions imo, the yellow bands and rings connect it to the moon and give it sort of godlike Anubis vibes. The fact that it’s so sleek and basic is actually an advantage for it, it’s a nocturnal hunter so it makes sense that it isn’t as flashy as the other eeveelutions , stealth and secrecy is part of it’s character and I feel like the smooth shapes help evoke that much better than if it were furrier.

  • @cinnastag
    @cinnastag Před rokem +40

    It's literally the DARK, the NIGHT, it's the moon contrast!

  • @joshuabarber2817
    @joshuabarber2817 Před rokem +6

    I vaguely recall that Umbreon was originally gonna be poison type, thus the sharpness in Umbreons design.

  • @sputnick224
    @sputnick224 Před rokem +22

    "So... you've chosen death"

  • @princesscoronagames
    @princesscoronagames Před rokem +4

    It’s believed that Umbreon was almost going to be a Poison type based on some of its Pokedex entries stating it has poison sweat. That could be why it’s ears and tail are that shape.

    • @druidt8949
      @druidt8949 Před rokem +2

      It's not believed, it was going to be Poison type. In the '97 space World demo it was Poison, but it was changed before final release to show off one of the (at the time) new typings. There's a great video on Umbreon's design by Gnoggin that breaks down why the sharp ears and tail not only makes sense for Poison, but also Dark type

    • @princesscoronagames
      @princesscoronagames Před rokem

      @@druidt8949 Love Gnoggin's vids. That's where I got that from. ;)

  • @forkrift3170
    @forkrift3170 Před rokem +2

    Strangely enough, Umbreon is a tank. The prickly-ness makes it look more like an attacker than a defender

  • @indigova
    @indigova Před rokem +13

    You got to remember that the dark type is evil type in Japan, so the yellow spots resemble the moon, also since you have to evolve it at night, but also most crimes are done at night, as well as the fear of the dark

  • @ElementalDAR
    @ElementalDAR Před rokem +14

    If I remember right from the show the yellow bands light up. Like when they use Flash. Think it was suppose to be a whole light in the darkness sort of deal.

  • @GeneralDestroyQc
    @GeneralDestroyQc Před rokem +12

    Also a thing we need to remember is that dark type is a bit of a misstranslation. It would be better caracterized as evil, malosious or sneaky :p

  • @Kairouu
    @Kairouu Před rokem +6

    Honestly, I always find Umbreon’s design to be cool even though it’s simple yet it kind delivered the purpose of the design as a Dark-type while complimenting the moon/night. Just simple yet special.

  • @bobbyknuckles6380
    @bobbyknuckles6380 Před rokem +3

    I think the bands make it look similar to how egyptian hieroglyphics depicted jackals and cats wearing gold jewelry.

  • @nolangerrans6083
    @nolangerrans6083 Před rokem +5

    Unbreon was actually designed as a poison type, so the marks on its body were likely meant to call to mind the bright warning colors of poisonous and venomous animals in our world. Even in the final versions of gen 2 and onwards, Umbreon is still described as being poisonous in a lot of its Pokédex entries.

  • @admin-yo1ee
    @admin-yo1ee Před rokem +2

    For me, the yellow bands create the impression of a flashlight in the dark, which makes it look more like a dark type by evoking the idea of light in the dark. Also, the silhouette works with it being a dark type by making it look sleek and fleet, as if it can move like a shadow and tread without creating noise. Maybe I'm just biased because I thought it was cool when I first played Soul Silver, though...

  • @mastersaskashi8654
    @mastersaskashi8654 Před rokem +3

    Fun fact: Originally Umbreon was supposed to be Poison type but it’s type was changed later on.

  • @teheqlles9036
    @teheqlles9036 Před rokem +4

    In Pokemon Colosseum, Umbreon's yellow markings slowly fade in and out of view. For me it immediately made me think of moonlight when it did that, as opposed to this which does, in fact, make me think of a marker doodle.

  • @ske_kt2048
    @ske_kt2048 Před rokem +2

    I'll have to disagree a bit on this one :D
    - Dark-types are predatory animals - the sharp edges make it look less cuddly and more dangerous.
    - Umbreon is called 'The Moonlight pokemon' - the yellow circles are supposed to invoke vibes related to the moon.
    - According to the dex entries: "It lurks in the dark of night looking for prey. At the moment it pounces, the rings on its body glow dimly but ominously." So the glowing thingies are an indimitation tactic, probably meant to look like eyes in the dark.
    -The circle on the forehead is also a mirror to espeon's gem thing, since they are indeed a pair.

  • @Chocolate-ii5uj
    @Chocolate-ii5uj Před rokem +9

    Bad take. For me the rings are the glowing moon or eyes in the dark. Still a fair observation

  • @choshas.6312
    @choshas.6312 Před rokem +7

    It would have been awesome to give Umbreon some sort of moon or star shaped fur collar, or even some stars along the body instead of those circles.

  • @LunaP1
    @LunaP1 Před rokem +3

    If you remember one of it's Pokédex entry, the glowing yellow bands are a means to mesmerize prey before murking them.

  • @AtomicFire41
    @AtomicFire41 Před rokem +2

    And we can’t forget that Umbreon is the lead character in JelloApocalypse’s outstanding ‘Dogs in Love’

  • @theodorexenophon7612
    @theodorexenophon7612 Před rokem +2

    Oh I think Umbreon's the coolest! I feel like the yellow is like the color of a spooky moon 🌙 or general nighttime lights in the sky. Also it's worth noting that dark type in Japanese is more close to "evil type" so I think the prickly design and red eyes are to fit with that

  • @SuperEgoNaut
    @SuperEgoNaut Před rokem +4

    I might have this wrong, but my understanding is that the “Dark” type is actually written as the “Evil” type in various other languages (including Japanese, I believe?) - I feel like that’s an important detail to keep in mind when interpreting the design intent of these “Dark” types.

  • @ildathet
    @ildathet Před rokem +4

    if the marking/ears where moon shaped it would have been better imo

    • @purpleenthusiast5814
      @purpleenthusiast5814 Před rokem

      Eh, it would've made it look too close to Ursaring. I stand by the lil circle on his head until the dat I die.

    • @ildathet
      @ildathet Před rokem +1

      @@purpleenthusiast5814 understandable, but ursaring is moon themed because of constelation ? bit of a strange case too i guess

  • @Neevkl_7
    @Neevkl_7 Před rokem +1

    I always imagined them as being there to both intimidate enemies and confuse prey with how it can cause them to light up. Kinda like how a cuddle fish will flash contrasting bands across its body.

  • @vlinderfin
    @vlinderfin Před rokem +2

    I think the reason it's so sharp is because the dark type is actually the 'evil' type in Japan, which explains a lot of weird things about dark types, and we do tend to associate evilness and negative traits with sharp edges, like monsters with big sharp claws and teeth

  • @nathanlanum7570
    @nathanlanum7570 Před rokem +4

    The yellow is meant to be like the light in the darkness (the moon, hence the prefix umbr-) and we see that in what Umbreon frequently does in the show and the anime where it's been known to help trainers who get lost in the dark. Imo the yellow does everything it's supposed to be. I think the red eyes are really fun because red eyes in the dark are the famous scary eyes you see watching you.

  • @TheLeviathan333
    @TheLeviathan333 Před rokem +4

    Worst take yet? This pokemon is tied to the moon due to its night time requirement evolution. The streaks of yellow evoke the streaks of moonlight reflecting off the odd surface. It is sleek so it can prowl at night and it is sharp because thats what dark is (example look at how sneasle is posed).

    • @FatalityPWN
      @FatalityPWN Před rokem +3

      Honestly really is his worst take.

  • @mesiagamer5217
    @mesiagamer5217 Před rokem +1

    Honestly, im surprised that you didn't bring up the friendship aspect of this and espeon's evolutions.

  • @can_O_beans
    @can_O_beans Před rokem +1

    I think Umbreon's ears and tail looks the way it does to reference the Japanese folklore of the rabbit on the moon (gyokuto). The design also calls to the idea of a black cat, considered a bad omen in the west (yet lucky in the east). The circles on its design could be a reference to "enso", a symbol of englightment. This enlightenment was often compared to "the bright full moon". There is also an element of "the void" with enso.
    There are also a total of 8 markings on Umbreon's body. One on each ear and leg, tail and forehead. There are 8 phases of the moon so perhaps a connection is there as well?

  • @shytendeakatamanoir9740
    @shytendeakatamanoir9740 Před rokem +1

    Well, it's a Poison Type originally.
    It looks even less Poison than Dark tbh, but still.
    It's Gen 2, they had no idea what they were doing.

    • @Magnet_Chaos
      @Magnet_Chaos Před rokem

      It always been a dark type thoug.
      Like MAAAAAYBE at some point during development it was a poison type and they decided to change after realizing that design didn't fit as a Poison Type. But it has always been officially a Dark Type. Which reminder in Japanese it is actually the "Evil" or "Rude" type. Not Darkness.
      And TBH. At the time "Poison" didn't really have that much of a design phylopsophy. Besides "purple".
      But the only evidence to any of this is the Pokedex mentioneing that it has poisonous sweat. But the Pokedex is full of bullshit. And he is not the only non poison type with this quirk.
      I can still see it though

  • @rinyaskyline
    @rinyaskyline Před rokem +1

    I love how absolutely everyone agrees that you were dead wrong about Umbreon lmao 🤣

  • @sango323
    @sango323 Před rokem +1

    I always thought they were going for a sort of Egyptian thing with it like Anubis

  • @4wheal
    @4wheal Před rokem +1

    Apparently somone found a beta version of Pokemon Gold and umbreon was originally going to be posion type but was changed to Dark later on.
    This is why it's frist pokedex entries mentions it having poisonous sweat

  • @jamesbiggs8397
    @jamesbiggs8397 Před rokem

    I like how the bands make me think of the Moon, like Lunar Bands & the circle on the forehead makes me think of the Moon & a Third Eye

  • @MelonSeedOfficial
    @MelonSeedOfficial Před rokem +1

    Skyen: I don’t get it
    Umbreon: *does the glowy thing*
    Skyen: _I get it_

  • @sarahbarabe4990
    @sarahbarabe4990 Před rokem +1

    I thought the dark type was the evil type in Japan, I imagine it's meant to look intimidating and scary. Like a predator of the night.

  • @Gamemaster13000
    @Gamemaster13000 Před rokem

    "Aw well, Skyen didn't like my favorite Eveelution. It happens. Time to look at the comments and......*by the pope!*"

  • @purplekillingshadow8474
    @purplekillingshadow8474 Před rokem +1

    Also you get an umbreon through friendship! They break the boring dark type it leads you through the dark not it being dark itself, I love my emo puppy...

  • @chrisgomez1262
    @chrisgomez1262 Před rokem +1

    Good thing that the floor tentacles are aren’t drowning it

  • @weavery4292
    @weavery4292 Před rokem

    The yellow stripes have always read as reflective to me, like the eye-shine when you point a flashlight at a cat in the middle of the night.

  • @Thaddios
    @Thaddios Před rokem +1

    Umbreon is supposed to be a mix between a lucky black cat and an Egyptian worship cat. The Egyptian cats on some of the structures have circles drawn on them just like Umbreon does.

  • @jaywingate187
    @jaywingate187 Před rokem +1

    The Umbra is the darkest part of an eclipse, and the rings could be seen as the edges of the eclipse, the bright ring of the sun framing the shadow of the moon.
    Alternatively it's got the dark soul on it I dunno.

  • @Bwans_Art
    @Bwans_Art Před rokem +2

    I feel like the yellow one the one side resembles the moon (which makes sense, considering how it evolves at night and some translations of the Name, such as the German Nachtara -> Nightara)
    and on the other hand it resembles those reflectors you have on clothes or cat eyes (possibly hinting at Espeon, it's direct opposite, being a cat)

  • @khajiitimanus7432
    @khajiitimanus7432 Před rokem

    Maybe that's why Umbreon's a dark type, to hide in that shadow of undefined fog as a form of self-conscious covering.

  • @gustavju4686
    @gustavju4686 Před rokem +1

    The yellow circles are my favorite part of the design! Especially on Shiny Umbreon.

  • @Astronometric
    @Astronometric Před rokem +1

    The circles on him are supposed to shiny in the dark/reflect the light of the moon. But I don't think that this was ever shown in any game.

  • @Mario_Angel_Medina
    @Mario_Angel_Medina Před rokem +1

    Looking at it now, Umbreon reminds me of an Egyptian statue. Egyptian sculptures of dogs and cats are sometimes black with golden details, but I don't know why so I can't say if it was a source of inspiration for the Pokemon design or just coincidence

  • @suzeray87
    @suzeray87 Před rokem

    Umbreon is my homie when I’m trying to collect legendaries.

  • @LadyLunist
    @LadyLunist Před rokem

    Umbreon's circles make light. Like the moon, its a walking flash light.

  • @Ervo
    @Ervo Před rokem

    I have always seen the umbreon rings as a warning sign, like the light signals on the road, to warn that it's dangerous

  • @roxythetiger6862
    @roxythetiger6862 Před rokem

    He definitely wouldn't look like a labrador if he didn't have his rings on lol

  • @ObeliskDemon
    @ObeliskDemon Před rokem +1

    tbh Umbreon is the only eeveelution that hits it out of the park for me. It has a simple design and the glowing yellow spots with it's head shape give me vague Egypt vibes, and utility-wise it probably gives some visibility to it which could intimidate things to stay away at night (there's almost always 2 circles that could look like eyes shining in each direction). this visibility might also help it's trainer in dark areas since it does require strong friendship at night (so in darkness) to evolve (trying to help your friend see would be a good way to show you are thinking if them)

  • @Dile0303
    @Dile0303 Před rokem +1

    i think it could draw more on the concept of a black cat with green eyes, familiar of a witch. A creature that that brings bad luck. But oh well

  • @xylophoneserpent367
    @xylophoneserpent367 Před rokem

    Umbreon was originally poison type, which is why it has rings reminiscent of a blue-ringed octopus

  • @trepvox
    @trepvox Před rokem +1

    My friend out here just slaying everyone's favorite Eeveelution based on the people I know.

  • @TheSuperboy139
    @TheSuperboy139 Před rokem

    I remember from the anime that the yellow markers can glow in the dark what makes someone who stumbles in a dark room a bit scared.

  • @bogdanlaurentiudumitrescu1721

    Umbreon honestly looks like an electric type, I always thought that Espeon was the dark one from just a first glance

  • @BrontoSmilodon1
    @BrontoSmilodon1 Před měsícem

    Ironic you say it would be weird that Espeon would be the scary one you encounter in the dark when. This evolution is the night representation and would be the scary alien to come across at night.

  • @dr.spider1111
    @dr.spider1111 Před rokem

    The yellow markings make me think of reflective safety bands/clothing that people who work at night or in hard-to-see conditions wear. Which is a pretty strong darkness association for me.

  • @l4dym3r3k
    @l4dym3r3k Před rokem +1

    The yellow in black always kinda vaguely gave me Egyptian vibes for some reason. Like the circle in the center of its head looks like it ought to be an Ankh or something. It feels kinda like they wanted to maybe do an Anubis/Jackal kinda thing with it, but stopped halfway through.

  • @thatangelrey6659
    @thatangelrey6659 Před rokem

    I always saw Umbreon as having this rabbit on the moon theme to it. The Moon is sometimes depicted as glowing yellow, the rings glow yellow in the moonlight, the ears are rabbit like and the tail is just there to match them

  • @dearestdoppio8554
    @dearestdoppio8554 Před rokem

    The ears are meant to evoke the shape of a hand shadow rabbit. His entire design is based on that.

  • @smiley-man3381
    @smiley-man3381 Před rokem

    I always imagine it as a cat, that is totally black and when you walk through the forest in the deep dark night, you can't see it, just it's yellow circles glowing.
    To me this imagination always made me like umbreon

  • @okbrew6471
    @okbrew6471 Před rokem

    I always saw the bands as being reflective like a hi vis jacket so that it wouldn't get hit by cars

  • @cpl.targrein1793
    @cpl.targrein1793 Před rokem

    Well, I think when shadows are sharp and clear it means it's about to attack. Like, this shadow demon is no longer stalking his pray, now it is going to finish it off.

  • @LucyPennies
    @LucyPennies Před rokem

    I think this is actually the first time ive seen someone slander umbreon in the pokemon fandom lol

  • @sacxoople4289
    @sacxoople4289 Před rokem

    I think it's more of like a Hi-Vis style design where it's supposed to signify the strips people wear to illuminate themselves at night on umbreon

  • @AzzyReal
    @AzzyReal Před rokem

    Skyen: Comes at one of the 3 most popular Eeveelutions
    "So the comment section isn't going how you expected"

  • @Nicholas86753
    @Nicholas86753 Před rokem +2

    Finally someone else who agrees with me that Umbreon is pretty boring as an Eeveelution.
    In my opinion it's easily the weakest design-wise and the least fun to both play with and against.

  • @oddbeebee1960
    @oddbeebee1960 Před rokem

    The yellow color is clearly highly reflective paint so it doesn’t get hit by cars at night

  • @Manatwo238
    @Manatwo238 Před měsícem

    Fun fact: Umbreon was originally going to be poison type with the rings on it being purple. Now anytime I look at it i think “ringworms”

  • @8_BlackOut_8
    @8_BlackOut_8 Před rokem

    The yellow bands are used for light, as umbreon is often said to be out at night.

  • @nondisclosureforreal
    @nondisclosureforreal Před rokem +1

    Great short. Umbreon still looks dope hahaha

  • @maxor2277
    @maxor2277 Před rokem +1

    Pretty sure Umbreon was originally designed as a poison type and, therefore, probably had it's pallette changed to better match a sort of "moon" theme (yellow moon). It's Pokedex mentions toxic sweat which has no relation to the dark type or the moon.

  • @crep50
    @crep50 Před rokem

    I wonder if the yellow “scribbles” are just meant to resemble a form of “bright safety wear”, as in those uniforms with the neon strips so that you can actually be seen by cars at night

  • @ketchumall8243
    @ketchumall8243 Před rokem +1

    The yellow parts always reminded me of moonlight. I think thats the idea with Umbreon. You have to evolve it at night. Moreso than a dark motif its always had a more of a nighttime motif to me

  • @makoman295
    @makoman295 Před rokem

    I think Umbreon works well in caves or dark areas where the yellow rings and sometimes even the eyes depict as glowing while it's fur blends in.

  • @jaisontorres4616
    @jaisontorres4616 Před rokem +2

    Hey Diva! I’m gonna be honest I’m not really feeling this one…