The Strangest VR Game of the Year - Ancient Dungeon VR

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  • čas přidán 23. 12. 2022
  • Ancient Dungeon VR looks like Minecraft VR and Runescape put together, but plays like Blade and Sorcery and Legendary Tales. It is truly the strangest VR game of the year. But it's a great indie VR game, which is super rare. Gamer Supps link here gamersupps.gg/Habie I thank you in advance. No clue if we will even get close but only one way to find out.
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  • @yeti96
    @yeti96 Před rokem +876

    Props to Habie for making it this far on CZcams, you’ve really showed a lot of people that vr isn’t just a gimmick, congrats on the sponsor and merry Christmas

    • @extremehyperventilation4377
      @extremehyperventilation4377 Před rokem

      What about upisnotjump?

    • @BD-zg7is
      @BD-zg7is Před rokem

      @@extremehyperventilation4377 fuck that guy. i'm not a 6 yr old who loves loud noises and being yelled at

    • @extremehyperventilation4377
      @extremehyperventilation4377 Před rokem +4

      @@BD-zg7is Well, I do enjoy Habie's more calm tallking voice. It sounds like me monologueing about something I personally care about or am emotionally invested in.
      And yeah, while I did ask about upisnotjump, I am actually not a big fan of his! I reached him via Many A True Nerd! Who is just an amazing person to watch play games and give his opinion on them. His style is quite similar to habie, so I think I understand why I enjoy habie much, much more. But, I didn't expect an aggresive response to such a neutral question.
      So, is habie the only person who has proved to many people thay VR is not a gimmick? I would like to think so, but then again, things are not always what they seem to be... So it was an innocent question really, sorry if I offended you

    • @ItsMigi
      @ItsMigi Před rokem

      same i thought the entire vr scene since the 90s was a gimmick until I saw this vid

    • @CakePrincessCelestia
      @CakePrincessCelestia Před rokem

      @@extremehyperventilation4377 That channel genuinely is (nOt) An AbSoLuTe NiGhTmArE! :D

  • @plaguedoctor5145
    @plaguedoctor5145 Před rokem +557

    Even though he has over half a million subscribers, he still remains humble and it feels like a really close knit small community of like minded people and the vibe on these videos is just great

    • @ryanle1293
      @ryanle1293 Před rokem +5

      I feel like a lot of people would easily let this get to their heads and just devolve into a click baity mess

    • @plaguedoctor5145
      @plaguedoctor5145 Před rokem +8

      @@ryanle1293 agreed, this channel just keeps the humble/chill style

    • @Noxs_12
      @Noxs_12 Před 11 měsíci +1

      I didn’t even realize that he has over half a million subs

    • @plaguedoctor5145
      @plaguedoctor5145 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@Noxs_12 I know, I was surprised when I saw too

  • @Sillymonkey-or1zo
    @Sillymonkey-or1zo Před rokem +1022

    Habie: "I want to try killing him but I feel like if I do I'll unleash some unspeakable horror." Everyone who pissed off the vendor before: 👀

    • @pieman0726
      @pieman0726 Před rokem +100

      this applies to any rouge-like lol

    • @jrmiles54
      @jrmiles54 Před rokem +92

      It was an accident the first time I didn’t put my sword away and went to buy an item and the sword barely grazed him, but it was enough to unleash the demon that killed me so fast.

    • @liambuchanan6292
      @liambuchanan6292 Před rokem +49

      he gives a random power up after you kill him so i go out of my way to kill him cause in the demo he has never been that difficult

    • @tannerrex1449
      @tannerrex1449 Před rokem +6

      yea I tried, then I died, then I cried, the I pi-

    • @boopboop9313
      @boopboop9313 Před rokem +20

      yeah if ive learned anything from rouge-likes its "Dont fuck with the shop-keepers" lmao

  • @chuckle5253
    @chuckle5253 Před rokem +244

    This is one of the few games that the demo got me to buy the full game. I think half the reason it feels good is how it runs so smooth.

    • @wonder_platypus8337
      @wonder_platypus8337 Před rokem +3

      Same here. Gave you just enough yo see how good it was and want more.

    • @mr_confuse
      @mr_confuse Před rokem

      Avorion was that game for me back when it was brand new with videos on the pre early access, soon to be release videos and the demo that I played... Ever since I never was so takes by a game's demo

    • @NeuralSensei
      @NeuralSensei Před rokem

      Same thing cannot be said for vanilla minecraft

    • @CakePrincessCelestia
      @CakePrincessCelestia Před rokem

      That in an age where demos basically don't exist anymore...

  • @sawyersprott
    @sawyersprott Před rokem +458

    I’ve had the demo for this for a while. It’s actually super fun and interesting.

    • @threeco2350
      @threeco2350 Před rokem

      I thought everybody did

    • @highlandstorm0137
      @highlandstorm0137 Před rokem

      Buy the game. It's great. Also mods.

    • @sawyersprott
      @sawyersprott Před rokem +2

      @@highlandstorm0137 I might actually now yeah. I didn’t realize that there were mods too. Thanks for the suggestion

    • @highlandstorm0137
      @highlandstorm0137 Před rokem +1

      @@sawyersprott there aren't loads of mods, but I'd say the game is worth it anyway. They'll be adding multiplayer sometime in the future. I don't think it'll be soon tho.
      Edit: this fucking swipe-typing on mobile is just painful.

    • @Th3Build3r
      @Th3Build3r Před rokem

      it really is, i played this back when it was still in gamelab

  • @williamharding6797
    @williamharding6797 Před rokem +40

    That echo bit had me in STICHES!!! 😂

  • @Smokasaurus
    @Smokasaurus Před rokem +114

    This game was one of the first games I got on my Quest 2 (was in SideQuest at the time). If I’m not mistaken it was the FIRST game I played in VR. And yes! The uncanny valley level in this game is so real. After my first run, making it to the second level, and dying to one of the zombies there that blink to you… That made me take a break for a few hours…

  • @baithooker660
    @baithooker660 Před rokem +122

    Another game you should try with a similar aesthetic that's more reminiscent to classic Wolfenstein/Doom is Compound--a vr fps roguelite. Its art style mixed with its different guns you get to unlock and try has now become one of my favorite vr games to play daily. So simple yet fun!

    • @ctrononon
      @ctrononon Před rokem +10

      Compound is reallly good. When you get into the rhythm, it really makes you feel like a badass. The way you can juggle guns by leaving them hanging in the air makes for some really fluid/fun gameplay.

    • @bruhbruhson8864
      @bruhbruhson8864 Před rokem +1

      Yea I’ve been playing compound too, I’ve only been able to beat it on medium with the extra hands mutation though.

    • @baithooker660
      @baithooker660 Před rokem

      @@bruhbruhson8864 I've only managed to beat the game with people populace (more enemies but they have less hp) and damage amplifier (one shot = one kill)

    • @Gizmos_and_stuff
      @Gizmos_and_stuff Před rokem

      Coulpiund is indeed a great game

    • @nazaxprime
      @nazaxprime Před rokem

      Yeah, that one's high on my list.

  • @facelessyt6215
    @facelessyt6215 Před rokem +19

    6:47
    Habie: " every time i get to the mushroom biome i have half a heart, there is no health anywhere"
    *while walking straight past health and an upgrade*

    • @trajankhan
      @trajankhan Před rokem +1

      i know right!?

    • @Yoyo50209
      @Yoyo50209 Před 4 měsíci

      You only get an upgrade you unlock the health with insight

  • @GamingGerry
    @GamingGerry Před rokem +86

    I’ve legit played this for 3 hours straight and loved every moment of it. This, paired with Spotify. Game changer

    • @exceptionaldifference392
      @exceptionaldifference392 Před rokem +2

      Wow 3 hours!

    • @adufresne1
      @adufresne1 Před rokem +4

      Why Spotify exactly? Just vibing or is there no in-game music?

    • @GamingGerry
      @GamingGerry Před rokem +6

      @@adufresne1 there’s definitely in game sounds and generic music. But having like doom on. Magic. That and some edp. Relaxing while dungeon crawling

    • @daveyfrancy3118
      @daveyfrancy3118 Před rokem +3

      @@GamingGerry edp?

    • @zackattack9228
      @zackattack9228 Před rokem

      Eww 🤢 spotify

  • @BlaiseArath
    @BlaiseArath Před rokem +20

    Been playing Ancient Dungeon since its early access days on SideQuest! Its such a fun little rogue-like game. I try to recommend both it and CompoundVR to people who want a good Rogue-Lite experience in VR.
    Ancient dungeon being the "sword/medieval" one, Compound being a shooter.

  • @gunkeythefunkymonkeyjunky

    Ancient Dungeon is such a gem and I'm glad more people going to find it, hats off to Habie for showing people that VR can be more than a gimmick and actual games can be made. While also supporting indie games all the while!

  • @Zsavara
    @Zsavara Před rokem +18

    I've been waiting for Habie to review this game! Easily one of my favorites and if anyone asked for a game to play, this is the game that I would tell them. Thanks for being my favorite content creator Habie and an amazing source of entertainment. Hope everyone's Christmas is amazing.

  • @GreyAcumen
    @GreyAcumen Před rokem +16

    Just a little advice to hopefully help you with future runs:
    1. Take the time to read item(called relics) descriptions,(you can also do this from the menu and pointing at the list of relics you've picked up to get a little popup of each description) not only that, but before you pick them up, double check your menu to look at your stats and hearts so you can compare the before and after to better understand what their actual impact is. Some relics aren't helpful at all, some are legit dangerous to pick up.
    Possibly the most important relics you can pick up are the one that lets you see the entire map, and the ones that let you get new relics or change the relics you find to new ones.
    2. The dagger is your best friend. Throw it as much as you can, it'll always come back. You'll last MUCH longer than trying to melee everything.
    3. Explore every room you can, and learn to recognize those "points of no return" in order to use the chance to check everything you might have missed up to that point. Once you learn to kill enemies safely, those rooms are just more opportunities to either find relics that will make you stronger, or get coins that can be used to purchase more relics that will make you stronger.
    4. Make sure to check the board to the left of that researcher guy. It has options you can unlock by spending insight, and some of those options vastly improve the dungeon experience.

  • @_.Dylan._
    @_.Dylan._ Před rokem +1

    3:30 That is so much better than actually putting the effect there

  • @TheCangar
    @TheCangar Před rokem +2

    Habie after all those years from starting out in the skyrim sub I'm still watching all your vids. You're such a genuine treasure to the vr community, thanks for doing what you do. Happy holidays! You deserve every praise and every smooth brain that asks for shaming.

  • @regney7264
    @regney7264 Před rokem +47

    Habie you are one of the few sources of good, funny, and clean content anymore. I love this channel keep it up my guy

  • @CopePremium
    @CopePremium Před rokem +10

    I wasn’t really expecting habie to cover this game

  • @boomdaddymaxwell
    @boomdaddymaxwell Před rokem +4

    Not only do you constantly deliver interesting and useful content, but you also genuinely make me laugh all the time. Thank you so much for your vids

  • @seanmurphy4968
    @seanmurphy4968 Před 10 měsíci +1

    I know ErThu, the dev, and hes really been passionate about this game and Ive even been involved once. Its always been super fun to play and great to see it getting attention!

  • @leoozada
    @leoozada Před rokem +9

    Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays, habie! You're my favorite find of the year! Hope you have a good 2023, take care!

  • @mysiklp2509
    @mysiklp2509 Před rokem +12

    I love this game, regardless of how terrified of it I am, and I’m so glad you got to love it as well

  • @Erik-Erikson
    @Erik-Erikson Před rokem +4

    This remains my favorite VR game. Ever since I played it’s free early access. It reminds me of so many fantasy tales.

  • @FrShadowGuy
    @FrShadowGuy Před rokem +1

    "Every time you die, you're dead" His wisdom is far beyond what I can comprehend

  • @docmyth8513
    @docmyth8513 Před rokem +6

    Hey habie, Just wanted to say that you have literally been the only reason I smile anymore, I know thats a little weird, But you really mean the world to me

  • @jehriko7525
    @jehriko7525 Před rokem +3

    I'm so SO happy that this game is getting recognition it deserves. I'd been playing this game for god knows how long and it's just awesome, can't find many games like it and it's one of the few games that keep me on VR

  • @ghostdog0424
    @ghostdog0424 Před rokem +1

    10/10 Habie video. They all are though. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

  • @thegman431
    @thegman431 Před rokem +1

    merry christmas habie, i slept in late so i couldnt make the stream sadly, but you are my favorite content creator of all time, i hope your christmas is beyond amazing.

  • @rookiescott9914
    @rookiescott9914 Před rokem

    I somehow always manage to forget you exist during the week but come the weekend a video of yours finds its way into my feed to make me smile. Merry Christmas Habbie, you beautiful stranger and thank you for the past year of laughs.

  • @mcgibs
    @mcgibs Před rokem +2

    I freaking love the zombies in this game. Not only are they creepy when life-size, they actually react to being hit in a satisfying way.

  • @SunpixZephyr
    @SunpixZephyr Před rokem

    I'm glad you made a video on this game! I've been watching it since it was in beta and I'm so excited to see more. It was the last game I streamed on my channel, and it was super fun!

  • @TheDinohunterify
    @TheDinohunterify Před rokem

    Merry Christmas love your content!

  • @dan_kitty_vr5107
    @dan_kitty_vr5107 Před rokem

    Thanks for your content this year....keep it up !

  • @tayb4812
    @tayb4812 Před rokem +1

    Been thinking of trying gamer supps for ages, but loving your vids and knowing it will help you out has final pushed me to putting an order in. Good luck with brain polish, I hope it gets though and helps to make many more smooth brains!

  • @dracuhl8342
    @dracuhl8342 Před rokem

    I've literally watched all your vids and exhale sharply through my nostrils every time I see you on my feed. Thank you for making even the worst days a little bit better Habie.

  • @whyseb5147
    @whyseb5147 Před rokem

    Man your videos are so charming. Loved this one.

  • @CasEavey
    @CasEavey Před rokem

    This game is absolutely fantastic it gets better the longer you play i also struggled to get to the infested dungeon at first and now i get to the final boss almost every time i play and i beat it half the time. It's amazing to get further in the game as your skill develops

  • @kalle2802
    @kalle2802 Před rokem +1

    Holy im glad you played this. I bough this game over a year ago and its my favourite game ever!

  • @momentofbruh8149
    @momentofbruh8149 Před rokem +1

    THIS HAPPENS EVERY TIME! EVERY TIME I THINK ABOUT GETTING A GAME, HABIE RELEASES IT

  • @MikeyLORR
    @MikeyLORR Před rokem

    Really glad you made a video on this game, it's one of my absolute favorite VR games. Would also love to see a video on Tea for God, another indie VR game where you move around by walking around your playspace and it has an insane amount of depth. Happy holidays!

  • @hypn0__.
    @hypn0__. Před rokem

    I’ve genuinely been here for 2 years and your stuff is amazing

  • @Sinsanatis
    @Sinsanatis Před rokem +1

    habie gives me the same energy as that one video where some guy has a hardboiled egg fit perfectly in a little creme brulee cup and when he jiggles it it makes a bwububububub sound and hes just laughing at it by himself
    game looks awesome tho, def keeping it in mind for if and when i get vr.

  • @carmelo6546
    @carmelo6546 Před rokem

    THANK YOU FOR PLAYING THIS GAME, IVE LOVED IT SO MUCH

  • @tylerhilpisch7850
    @tylerhilpisch7850 Před rokem +1

    "This is unintentionally, the most scariest game ive ever played"
    that made me buy it

  • @VerseOW
    @VerseOW Před rokem

    FINALLY you played this, I've been a HUGE fan of it for a very long time now.

  • @Falkov
    @Falkov Před rokem +1

    I'm stoked to see you've discovered it! Such a simple game with fun mechanics..like throwing the knife..I've spent hours and hours practicing since early access through Side Quest (over a year ago)..it's just satisfying to turn it into an extension of your arm.

  • @Two-BallTyrone
    @Two-BallTyrone Před rokem

    Played this back in the beta, and it is such a good game, when I played there were 3 levels; The normal level, The bloody place, and the library. The game gets constant updates, and has so much content already, and the coolest part is that even back in beta, there was so much you could do, there was mods (one of the coolest mods i saw was a contracts mod in which you got gold for doing things in the dungeon like killing five zombies), people were speedrunning the game back in beta (and i really wish i took part in it.) ErThu is genuinely such a great game dev, he actively gives announcement for the updates coming in the discord. And on the topic of cool updates, the newest update coming is multiplayer. I cannot wait for that. Whether you have a VR headset or not, give ErThu your money. He deserves it.

  • @mizumiraccoon5687
    @mizumiraccoon5687 Před rokem

    Just ordered my gamersupps with code habie, good luck chief i love you and your content, hope you get ur own flavor

  • @Braekpo1nt
    @Braekpo1nt Před rokem

    I'm glad you're enjoying the memes! You're my favorite creator!

  • @konamaco7665
    @konamaco7665 Před rokem

    I’ve been waiting for you to review this game for a long time! Nice to see you enjoy it

  • @theelltrain8985
    @theelltrain8985 Před rokem

    I am so glad you found this, it really needs more attention!

  • @SagaEf
    @SagaEf Před rokem +2

    I knew you would get a gamersupps partnership. I called that shit 11 days ago in your comments and I have never been a better fortune teller than now.

  • @thegman431
    @thegman431 Před rokem

    merry christmas habie!!!

  • @aaaaaballs
    @aaaaaballs Před rokem

    the bit at 3:30 added so much more to the video than any echo effect could have.

  • @Brick_Soup
    @Brick_Soup Před rokem

    Merry Christmas Habie!

  • @JesusitsChuzy
    @JesusitsChuzy Před rokem +1

    Its awesome seeing you get that gamersupps code, I just put my order in with your code!

  • @kauboy9816
    @kauboy9816 Před rokem

    The Premiere joke was unexpected and hilarious. Another great video!

  • @Sir_Steven
    @Sir_Steven Před rokem

    Hey man, hope you're doing great. Happy holidays!

  • @SlimeyGuy13
    @SlimeyGuy13 Před rokem +2

    if you kill the merchant he triggers a boss fight, learned that the hard way

  • @chocobox45
    @chocobox45 Před rokem +2

    I've played this game for awhile and I think that it's probably one of my favorite VR games

  • @vanceschneider4925
    @vanceschneider4925 Před rokem

    I love this game, glad you did a video on it

  • @varkboys9999
    @varkboys9999 Před rokem

    I love this game not only because it's a really good dungeon crawler (my favorite genre) in vr, but also because it's one of few games I own that has haptic suit support. And I love my haptic suit

  • @The6426
    @The6426 Před rokem

    I was looking at this game yesterday and it looked really awesome. Glad my favorite VR CZcamsr has the same taste

  • @carpetsmell2523
    @carpetsmell2523 Před rokem

    Ive had this game in the corner of my eye a long time. Glad it got recognition from you

  • @greenrain66
    @greenrain66 Před rokem

    The impact from the sword swings seems SO satisfying

  • @dylanpiercey4934
    @dylanpiercey4934 Před rokem

    Happy holidays habie ( best illteration I’ve ever done)

  • @Romanplaystation
    @Romanplaystation Před 6 měsíci +1

    Had to come back and watch this one again after the announcement for PSVR 2. We're eating so good this December with Resi 4 remake, Vertigo 2, and this.

  • @nickludden5535
    @nickludden5535 Před rokem

    Seeing this game being played on here just made my week man

  • @Killer66hitman
    @Killer66hitman Před rokem

    Seen a million Gamer Supps ads and never even considered buying it myself but saw your call out and immediately went and bought some.
    The power

  • @Semi1997
    @Semi1997 Před rokem +1

    3:23 you need to put studio reverb on the entire audio track through the Audio Track Mixer.

  • @NotShoy
    @NotShoy Před rokem

    i hope you do more of this game soon

  • @Idkwhatstheirname
    @Idkwhatstheirname Před rokem

    Yooo new habie upload!

  • @MrPattC
    @MrPattC Před rokem

    Finally, someone big enough to cover one my of my favorite vr games

  • @xGamermonkeyx
    @xGamermonkeyx Před rokem

    Oh man I'm so glad you've finally played Ancient Dungeon! I think I commented about this like, six or more months ago, I'm just glad you've gotten to try it now! hands down the best feeling throwing in a VR game.

  • @IvoryTurnip
    @IvoryTurnip Před rokem

    I rung the bell, honestly I love your content brother keep it up, be well, and happy holidays.

  • @captainapac
    @captainapac Před rokem

    IVE BEEN WAITIN FOR THIS!

  • @pkyamaha17
    @pkyamaha17 Před rokem

    one of the few channels I always click the notification on because its a nice escape. Thanks Habie.

  • @mckay7965
    @mckay7965 Před rokem

    I remember playing an early build of this game a year or so back on sidequest. And seeing it released as an actual full game is so wild to me.

  • @jacobhebert667
    @jacobhebert667 Před rokem

    I've had this for a few months, loving it

  • @ZeFroz3n0ne907
    @ZeFroz3n0ne907 Před rokem

    I can't wait till I can afford to become a member for like 3 yrs straight. It shall be glorious! Love the video Habie, love your "content" no matter what you say! You are an amazing man! ❤
    Much love from Dave in Alaska!❤

  • @Alphine_Agnitio
    @Alphine_Agnitio Před rokem

    I bought this the other day and this game has quickly become my favorite in my library and my favorite roguelike in general out of the(admittedly few) I've played

  • @joownscamera
    @joownscamera Před rokem

    Merry Christmas Habie you’re a swell guy

  • @FlightlessThePigeon
    @FlightlessThePigeon Před rokem

    I just downloaded this game two days ago, such a fun time, so glad to see you play it!

  • @cosmiccoruption5145
    @cosmiccoruption5145 Před rokem +1

    as someone who has almost 100% the game , I can say that you are missing out, after beating the beast you unlock the crossbow and dagger, which can also be called rocket launcher and smol sword, it makes the game so much easier and it makes the sword and knife feel obsolete.

  • @ak_GI
    @ak_GI Před rokem

    Merry Christler habie

  • @dingerboofer
    @dingerboofer Před rokem

    I've been waiting for you to review this game! I can't wait to see you play this with your friends in 2023

  • @rosanapancino4343
    @rosanapancino4343 Před rokem

    IVE BEEN WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO PLAY THIS GAME ITS SO GOOD

  • @brendanhoang7731
    @brendanhoang7731 Před rokem

    Dope ive been waiting to see a well executed rogue like in VR :D Great video!

  • @rehmanmir7865
    @rehmanmir7865 Před rokem

    Glad to see someone make a video on this game, I felt like it was a hidden gem when I started playing it a year ago

  • @DrizzyDoggo
    @DrizzyDoggo Před rokem

    This game was not only the first game I played, it was really fun. I think they also had one of the best throwing mechanics I've used in a VR game. It seems like the dagger actually wants to go where your throwing it instead of having an awkward throwing position for each throw.

  • @cowboy1772
    @cowboy1772 Před rokem

    Merry Christmas Habbie ^_^

  • @grizzlybirdfpv8549
    @grizzlybirdfpv8549 Před rokem +1

    You got me yelping out loud with the echo in premiere bit 🤣🤣

  • @scraub8913
    @scraub8913 Před rokem

    Oh this is great, I love VR games like this. I'll def check this one out.

  • @mrdunce3554
    @mrdunce3554 Před rokem

    I played this on my quest 1 from sidequest in very early development, it was super fun even if there was only 1.5 floors at the time. I've always loved roguelike games and it hurt me a little you described every aspect of them separately -The items you skimmed over -Losing everything when you die -Dungeon progression -Replayably fun deaths.

  • @isaacthomas1198
    @isaacthomas1198 Před rokem

    I’ve been looking at getting this for ages, glad it’s getting some attention 😁

  • @bencalleja5620
    @bencalleja5620 Před rokem

    Habie thank you, I don't know what pizzazz your videos specifically have but I just can't stop, won't stop watching, thank you

  • @taki_exe1750
    @taki_exe1750 Před rokem

    @3:29 "nvrm i dont know how to do this" made me burst out laughin

  • @goldstinger325
    @goldstinger325 Před rokem

    "HELLO... nevermind I don't actually know how to do this." 3:23
    Favorite line of the video so far

  • @jameshetherington1
    @jameshetherington1 Před rokem

    Merry Christmas Habie, congrats on the sponsor

  • @mingdug1824
    @mingdug1824 Před rokem

    This game and Compound are probably the best casual experience in VR and also the two most complete in that respect, which reminds me. Habie-kun can we's gets da Compound vidya