Is The Sims making people gay?
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- čas přidán 5. 08. 2024
- Does playing The Sims turn people homosexual? A video essay.
Discuss the role of video games (specifically The Sims) in defining sexuality and sexuality development.
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Timestamps
00:00 My first gay Sims moment
00:43 Sexuality in The Sims
04:10 Sexuality in video games generally
05:32 Nature vs nurture
07:51 Your experiences
10:58 "Queer" culture
15:49 Media representation
18:20 Conclusion - Hry
Things don't TURN you gay, things make you REALIZE you're gay
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except brainwashing but that's inhumane and out of pocket
@@LilGawkGawkPeriodt.
I knew what I liked even when I was first able to begin remembering things. Puberty just amplified it.
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It at very least allowed people to explore their sexuality in a safe and friendly environment and I think that really played an impact on my life ❤
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right? it let me go through my "Straight phase" in the sims 2 as a teen myself, before going to a straight phase in real life !!!!! like marrying a woman and having kids !!!! in the sims 2 we were in the 2000s and it was still a different times, I had to make all my sim a straight version of myself because I didnt accept myself even if I was super feminine, finally in 2010 it all changed and we all accepted more who we were, so it was meaningless to be closeted, and probably if I had the mindset of the 2000s or 90s as an adult myself, I would've lived as a closeted straight man !!!!! not only I wanted my sims to be straight in the sims 2, my mindset in the 2000s was to approach a straight lifestyle even if I wasnt, I thought I would graduate high school and college and marry a woman and have kids like my sims in the sims 2 !!!!! id like to think that game made me live that closeted life all I wanted, as I played with that sims 2 family for almost the whole 2000s decade !!!!!
i made my male sims kiss. it was adorable.
I am 35 years old and more or less grew up with The Sims. In 20 years, the game hasn't managed to make me gay....😁😉
Yet...
Just kidding 😂
I’m 38 and was gay before this game, I was happy that a game finally came along that I could make me my girlfriend and roommates in. Did it make me gay lol no!
i was thinking dam those old simmers then I remember im 34
LOL nice! I am 36 and I am bi, but I knew that before I ever even got a chance to play any Sims game at all. I have only played Sims 4 for 4 years now and I knew I was bi since my college days.
@@EpicRealistTV my cousin just turned 36 this April, he introduced me to simulator games, we would play all the Tycoons around 2000 and it was really cool, we lost contact as teens but I learned he occasionally played the sims 2 and he made g@y characters to mess around lol, while I did straight male characters all the time, btw he's like 10000% straight
It seems to me the Sims had it right in earlier games where they just let sexuality develop with relationships. Now every Sim is set up to be asexual and bi at the same time. I have to go and ‘fix’ each Sims sexuality due to this ‘feature’. It’s really annoying and makes gameplay less organic. Thanks for approaching this issue with reason and common sense. You are a treasure!
So much this!
I also get annoyed by this comment by EA about how you shouldn’t be able to fix it, bc you can’t do that in real life. Guess what, IT’S A GAME. That’s why we are playing it! I don’t have big mansion in real life, nor can I contact aliens or be a vampire. And I do want my sim to get together with that hot pre-made sim no matter what ea thinks about it. Honestly, sometimes they are just so full of themselves.
there's an option in game to change it to how it used to be, with all sims being up for anything so you can choose as you play what their attractions are.
also, you can be bi an asexual at the same time! asexual refers to sexual attraction, not romantic. some people are both asexual AND aromantic, but there are plenty of asexuals of all romantic attractions. :D
What do you mean by everyone are ace and bi at the same time? I encountered maybe one ace sim in the sims 4, the vast, vast megority of them are bi. Every once in a while I will try to have my sim flirt with some townie, only for them to tell me they aren't interested in my sim that way, which sucks a bit, but happens in real life all the time
Wicked whims fixes this
As someone who was raised in a very homophobic household, I'm so happy to see people celebrating their sexualities and gender indentity because it's like
YES!! I'm so glad you've found yourself and you are able to understand yourself!
Being loud and proud for me is mainly about being able to finally release all my happiness in finding a community I feel safe in after a lifetime of aggression and anxiety.
I don't think any game, book, movie, etc. can make any person gay, bi, trans, etc. Sims has just been a space for safe simulation and exploration.
And mass murderer, hehehe.
Yes
It only can help some people with realisation what was already there. And it's kind of beautiful ❤️
Unless you discover you're serial killer 🫣😳
@@wandauriel the sims will always be a safe outlet for our intrusive demonic thoughts❤
Does the Sims make people push other people into the pool?
Hahah exactly! By that same logic the sims would have made us all into murderers too lol
Satch we all know the awakening was at the male underwear store section....
Mine was actually watching Big Brother haha
mine was Nebula from winx club and the snow white from the "Mirror Mirror" film (the fight scene in the woods)💀💀
My first gay experience was because of the Sims.
So way back, when Clare Siobhan's dream house series was just starting, she made a Lesbian couple and my sister was kinda horrified and bewildlered (Don't worry, She's an absolute ally now. I mean she beat up my homophobic bully when she found out I had one and I literary never saw the bully again) and I was confused why she was surprised, then for the whole night I was thinking about it and it went from "Why is it weird?" To "Ah F*ck, Do I like boys?". Then I left that thought for like an year until It came back and I realized I really really liked Zuko and Sokka from ATLA and I just accepted that I like boys more, and honestly I didn't know the word "Gay" until 2020, I didn't know Homophobia was a thing until I looked up that word and I didn't know it was illegal* in my country until then.
A few of the lads in my Class figured out I was gay before I DID!!!
So no, the Sims didn't turn me gay, it introduced the concept to me and then I figured it out on my own :D
And now I create myself in the Sims and create a love story I can't have 😅
Wishing you peace and safety with a love of your own in the future🩷
I'm so sorry that you cannot openly be yourself and love who you want in your country, I hope that you're safe, please take care
It’s okay it’s not weird to be you. And characters can be attractive. I think Zuko is hot too!
Love Clare! I miss her LP’s.
@@heg203 Same : (
The perfect video game with a female main character that isnt a hyper sexualized stereotype: Portal
True that
And Horizon Dawn. She’s not sexualized in my opinion
Also American McGee's Alice, Edna & Harvey: The Breakout, The Longest Journey
The last of us 2
Also Control, made by Remedy. The people behind Max Payne and Quantum Break
I'm a female well into her years, and am completely straight, but my favorite sims to play are male/female hybrids who just hook up with whatever sim seems right. It didn't make me gay or bi or trans. I just want to experience a world where it literally doesn't matter.
Needless to say, when they added gender preferences, I didn't like it. Changing them in CAS makes me feel like I'm doing something bad.
In high school, I was the shy nerdy outcast, though really I was a serious bookworm. So I hung out with other "outcasts", those that didn't fit with the "in" crowd. This was the gay people, the goths, the not so trendy nerds, and so on. Also being a reader, I was more open to many different kinds of people. Maybe its because I read books on werewolves, vampires, witches, fae, and lots of medieval/historical settings, so I was open to the different kinds of people around me. I talked to them like I talked to everyone else and so they talked to me. This was the late 80's and by the end of the 90's the common theme was to treat everyone the same. Which at the time we thought was going well. Not sure how that changed but that's really off topic. So in my Sims games, I have characters of all nationalities and all sexualities, because that's who my friends are.
Fun story, my longest best friend ever, came over one day while I was playing sims... 3 I think ... and he saw two men kissing in my game and was so shocked. I was like yeah thats so and so and they are married and contemplating having a kid and blah blah blah. After that he totally paid attention to my game whereas before the sims was just something I did that he could overlook. Six months later, he has a get together and he's telling his friends that don't know me how in my game I have everybody and everything, including lesbian vampires, and aliens, and how my gay couple now has two children, and the werewolf pack, and so on. Next thing I know, I'm getting emails from his friends how to get a hold of the sims games and which expansions do I recommend and how to get started and blah blah blah.
Anyway, I guess the whole point is that they like me felt accepted by the game, that there was space for them with sims. LOL, it was a gay recovering drug addict that introduced ME to sims in 2001!
Nice story
That is such a sweet story. This is the second story I'm hearing where guy friends initially overlook The Sims, only to end up being obsessed with it later 😆.
What an interesting video! I started playing sims about a year ago and I already knew my sexual orientation (bi with a preference for women). Before this video I hadn't really thought how much my identity affects my gameplay. I usually prefer to start with a female sim and they usually get into same sex relationships. That is probably not a coincidence. I'm glad sims team is inclusive so I can experiment to my heart's content. Maybe I should make more male sims and go outside of my comfort zone more when playing.
no but it is making me a murrdurrer mweheheheehhe
Me too. I'm always staring with a plan for life story for my Sims , yet I'm ending up on genocide after a while 🫨🤣
@@wandauriel As it should be😂😂😂
I remember being scared of male sims in sims 2 so i just kept interacting with female sims until eventaully i had triple bolts with some of my female 'friends' and when i saw flirt interactions i started freaking out... Good times 😅
Special pride month video LMAO
I caught goosebumps because of your honesty. Wise, crazily charismatic, so intelligent and bold)
I love your take on this. Started watching your channel like a few days ago and I’m hooked. But yeah this episode, really good take. You’re a smart dude, I appreciate you!
I agree that it helped me to explore and learn that heterosexuallity isnt the only option. I identify as Ace so my play style was mostly couples that didnt woohoo, but still spent quality time together. Now that the sims 4 has the unflirty trait and the option to choose if your sim likes physical intimacy, I tend to make many sims that reflect my lifestyle.
You are the only one youtuber that i watch does days - Thank you for being here i watch your every video I’ve even started watching your old videoes from the very first on the sims 3 (but you’ve got so much video that scrolling to the bottom is so much work and I don’t know where my sorting be date go). Greetings from Poland see ya on the next video ❤
XDDD this is a great video i love how you just voice all these things that everyone hesitates to say and your just all in XDD
This video made me more gay. I fell even more in love with this man.
Thank you for sharing this and thank you for your candor. Your honesty keeps me coming back again and again.
You explained the complex factors behind sexuality so well! Ty for sharing this info with the Sims community
Hearing this makes me feel pretty lucky in some ways. Growing up the closest family friends were a gay couple so I never questioned it. As life has gone on I appear to have attracted people of different genders and sexualities. On multiple occasions people have come out to me before anyone else. I suppose that I felt like a good choice because even before I came out myself I certainly didn't act my gender nor was I ever fased by sexualities. That asside it wasn't the sims that made me realise myself but it is certainly nice to have that representation.
Honestly, making more labels makes it more confusing, like why are there 50+ labels for different variations of other sexualities, like the sexuality of attracted to feminine people, just say you're bisexual/pansexual with a preference of feminine dressing/frame/attitude...
i'd say who really cares, it doesn't affect either of us so seeing that one person on twitter with 5 labels to perfectly describe their sexual/romantic preferences doesn't matter, just remember you'll forget about them in 10 minutes and go about the rest of your day the same lol
Most micro-labels fall under the umbrella of a wider well-known label, a lot of the time micro-labels are used for self-relfection
I’d say it’s in line with people feeling like they have to strongly identify with a specific group or ideology. Most obvious example is politics where everyone online is expected to know 1,000+ different ideologies and pick one that is very specific and niche. Since people feel like they have to choose a label for their sexuality, they usually go with something extremely specific to avoid any misunderstandings. I feel like it’s fine as long as they don’t demand everyone to know every single niche sexuality that exists. I’m a man and I like men, so I just say I’m gay. That’s fine for me but might not be for others.
I get that it can be confusing but that is just what humans are, confusing and complex. To be honest most people with micro labels don't really even tell people about them unless it's related to the conversation or topic.For example I am asexual, I have other aspects of my lack of sexuality that can be explained further but in most settings where my lack of sexuality is brought up I only need to say one thing. You don't have to know all these micro labels or even understand them, just be kind to others. 👍
Honestly, I forget to always put my pronouns on all my comments. Ugh.... Aren't we supposed to do that now?
It's nice to think that Sims just makes people feel not weird. Comfortable place to explore all kinds of emotions or urges. But I certainly hope that this game doesn't encourage certain behaviors because there's probably a lot of people locked in a basement somewhere if that's the case. 😂
I think if I had ever heard the term ace before my mid 30s, I may have had a very different, and much happier life. Finding out that I wasn't broken, and that there were other people like me, and it really is ok, literally changed and saved my life. I spent decades trying to force myself to do things I didn't want to do, because that was 'normal', and expected of you, and sexual culture is shoved at us from every angle 24/7. Clearly, I was broken. There was something wrong with me at a core level, and I just had to keep on 'fake it till you make it' and it was devastating to me. I know you don't like all the labels, but if someone can find out they aren't broken, there are others like them, YOU CAN ACTUALLY BE LOVED BY SOMEONE, I hope they can find it early enough in their lives to make a difference.
Absolutely. Of course there is not asexual phobia like you see with the rest of the LGBTQ+ community but mainstream media literally just does not talk about it. the world is heteronormative obviously but, it is also so common for sex to be a big part of culture weather it is sex appeal/sex positive culture or sex taboo/sex shaming culture. But everyone assumes sex is something that everyone thinks about and either embraces or rejects based on a number of factors. Meanwhile a majority of people don't even know it's even an option to just like actually not give a f*ck about it😂. Knowing that asexuality existed would have also been helpful to me growing up since, even though I now identify as demi, I experienced nothing akin to typical sexual attraction and it was a very isolating feeling like I was on the outside looking in. Glad you found out and it helped you. Representation for all!
"Audi btqi AP" in closed captions is just amazing. I had no idea what he was saying until I turned the sound on😂
Oh my god Satch I have been saying this - it used to be about ditching labels and trying to get people to realise there was no ‘normal’ and everyone was different and that was okay. Now the labels are back and all anyone seems to care about is labelling.
I've been out since 2006 and the label ditching phase was such a brief blip in the history of the community. I think it's okay to personally not feel a strong love for labels for yourself, or a strong affinity with labels, but a lot of the microlabels and smaller, highly specific labels that exist and are more common now are often held by young queer people who are trying to identify who they are. It's absolutely okay for them to experience queer joy with a lot of words attached, even while you and I may experience queer joy with less words attached, or less emotional emphasis on said words. It doesn't greatly affect us if someone flies 16 different flags, or identifies with a label we haven't heard of before.
You could certainly argue that it somehow delegitimises us as a community to straight people, and I would agree that straight acceptance of us as normal people is important, however I don't think straight people's opinions of us should ever be prioritised over our own opinions of ourselves - which is really what the labels assist a lot of people with, their opinions of themselves. We also just don't exist to appease straight people, and I don't think anyone should make themselves smaller to be more palatable to hypothetical strangers. It's overall harmless, just as it's absolutely harmless for you to possibly not identify with any labels or few labels.
If you were interested in more on this topic, I'd highly recommend a video Strange Aeons published the other day about Tumblr and the MOGAI movement - it should be her most recent video on her channel. Also Happy Pride! ❤
@@mortal-enemy I agree with you that I only remember a very brief moment of label ditching around when you said, and also in the 90s. The reason it never lasts is because letting go of labels just makes it possible for whoever has the most leverage in society to make the labels for others, and the effect was simply straightwashing or gay bashing
Your videos are honestly so fun. I subscribed after watching the first one that was recommended to me a couple of weeks back😂❤
Welcome!!
@@SatchOnSims Thanks. I've just been binging honestly
Thank you for this video! Growing up in the 80s and 90s, I too have noticed the polar shift regarding labelling oneself and others. Although I understand the importance and need to define one's own identity, as well as the human compulsion to catergorize and simplify, putting ourself and others into boxes feels more like an act of separation than a celebration of diversity (at least to me).
Extremely rarely would I describe myself as a gay man, I'm just a guy that's attracted to other guys. I don't hide it, I'm not ashamed of it, but I have no desire to spotlight, elevate or celebrate this singular aspect of my being either. I am what I am, it doesn't make me special.
Despite living close to London, I've never had many gay friends (currently zero) and never felt drawn to the "gay community" either physically or culturally. Although I could be seen as the "token gay" among my circles of friends, I know they don't consider me as such, and of equal importance, neither do I.
My hope is that one day humanity will celebrate their similarities rather than their differences, and understand that unity requires inclusion, not division.
Have a good day ❤
Excellent comment! The trend towards having a collection of labels has been really confusing to me. I first came out as bi when I was 12, now I'm 32 or 33 and I feel more confused than I ever have. But that is around what to say to other people when I'm questioned about it, without that I can just bumble along and if I'm attracted to this person or that, I can deal with the situation as it arises. No sense of need or desire to proclaim sexual preferences of any kind to someone I'm not wanting to sleep with. I've never felt akin to the lgbt+ community and tbh sometimes it bothers me people or organisations from that community speak in a way that suggests they're speaking on behalf of anyone who isn't just straight.
Love this video you explained perfectly!
Great video and topic! And... I think it would be cool if Sims 5 would re-implement the use of those video insertions during various special moments, whether it's whoo-hoo time, marriage, birth, birthdays, graduation etc.
I have this just with autism and a learning disorder.
When I go out in a public place sometimes, I feel out of place. It’s hard for me to understand social cues, verbal and nonverbal communication so body language.
I like to stick to a certain way of playing. I’ll make a family a couple, have kids with the family, pick one of the kids to play as a then start the cycle again.
I don’t like the idea of creating a different family, for some reason.
There was a time that I'm constantly questioning my sexuality and I realize it stopped when I stop playing too much The Sims lol
My first homosexuality experience in The Sims is because of the game's male sims actually :D Male sims are so boring and because of that I always create families with more women in it and my play style always goes like ''Happy married couple, husband cheating his wife with maid, problematic rebel teen daughter who fools around with women when she has a bf, bf broke up with her, she regrets and pulls herself together, go to college, sees her ex, they got back together and marry''
I think it's cool that you spoke about your experience
I wish LGBTQ, or women, or minorities were viewed more neutrally.. but that’s an ideal, not reality.
It reminds me a lot of the concept of “colorblindness” with race, and growing up in the 90s/2000s. It’s understood to be a failed strategy at social change. I don’t particularly love the hyper celebratory approach either, but I warn romanticizing the failed approaches.
In terms of real life… it’s actually quite possible to have those gender options. Intersex people exist, and also it’s totally possible for a trans man to have metoidioplasty (a type of bottom surgery allowing standing to pee and essentially giving a micropenis) without closing the vaginal opening. And even on testosterone, it’s entirely possible for an FtM who still has reproductive organs intact to become pregnant at any point in time.
Just so some people know these cool options! :D All these gender combinations are in fact possibilities IRL.
LGBTQIA+ pride should be remembered as a form of a protest there is still a lot of discrimination. It is a weird type of protest because we do it in happiness.
I think multiple different labels helps us understand ourselves more and communicate it better with others. Eg a box with wheels, you find out it’s called a car, you then find out the type of car, then the brand, and make and model, and colour.
For me I learnt a lot about myself and having words to describe myself better allowed that journey. I originally define myself as straight. and then I learned about bisexuality and then I learned about romantic attraction for myself homo romantic, and then I learnt about sapiosexual. So for me that journey is important and my full label of bisexual, homo romantic, sapiosexual. Communicates a lot more about my experience of the world. Compared to that until I was in my 20 and started to learn. And I was in an environment where I could learn.
I heard “when I was brought up gay, people were never really spoken about” 😂
Oh wow! I needed that video!
I used to always play as a girl in the sims and had to always have a male husband/bf who i neverr really played as but chose whenever my dad was looking over my shoulder. Now i fully transitioned, living as a girl :) (and play sims with no male sims present and only use them to have babies hehe)
tbh dont even use them for that! make your girlies able to impregnate 🙏🏾
@@v4nusthebrat444 i still like men unfortunately 😭 but im rarely ever sexual so if i ever do play with another male in my household we get married to raise kids but he’s mainly a baby maker or the money maker while i garden and take care of my toddler and chickens ahahah
@@Qtopian omg but why is the men only ever being a sperm donor so true? It definitely has also a lot to do with the tragity that is the male side of CAS, but tbh I don't even bother that much with dressing up my female sims. I just always start out with a female sim, have her have a baby with father winter, get her a wife, have more babies with her, live out my lesbian cottage core fantasies, pick one of the daughters as the heir but still keep the boys in the household because I love my sims even when they end up as male disappointments
@@fruity4820 i think this is so common in the sims community my sister also does this and almost anyone i know who plays the sims just use the males to make babies or to do the mundane boring jobs
@@Qtopian I didn't want to admit.. but I only create males when I think, someone needs a boyfriend. This is sad and I don't know what that says about me xD
Edit: Oh, also congratulations on your successful transition, happy pride month! :)
Off topic but I love your laugh so much it brightens my mood so much every time you laugh lol
Edit: Also I'm bisexual but it wasn't the Sims4 that made me realize it, it was Stardew Valley that made me realize it lol
the first time i ever saw a gay couple was when i was like 10 and iHasCupQuake had two of her female sims marry during a sims 3 let’s play. she was so normal about it and didn’t make a big deal at all, and i think that really shaped me into the person i am now! i was never shocked or confused about gay people, and now i love women lol
I love you laugh. It make me laugh every time❤
One of your best videos ever! Kudos to you.
Thanks for doing this vid to help people understand
Queer culture is about being too loud to be shut up by homophobes in my experience, it's not about being "better" than everyone else
I go unlabeled because who I am as a person isn't defined by what I'm attracted to
Equality is a simple concept and it’s surprising how often people get it wrong. You get it right tho, sir. And I’m glad you’re putting it out there. I never considered you one of my favorite gay simmers. I just consider you one of my favorite simmers. I think we can all unite under the idea of hating that wedding dress tho!
I am straight and I love this channel , satchonsims is the funniest 😆 keep up the great work
The gender options has been a wonderful and safe way for me to explore parts of myself that I was never allowed to when I was younger because of my upbringing, and if there's anything I'll thank TS4 for, it's that. It's very refreshing to me to not have to think about whether I should create a certain sim or not, because no one in the sims world will care. And that makes me happy. I'm allowed to make my male sim with a female frame, or the opposite, and no one can tell me that it's not allowed. I still find myself going "oh but what if-" and then stop because if I want to, then why shouldn't I? I still don't know shit about myself, really, I always say that I'm just here bing, but sims has helped me work through a lot of trauma and become comfortable with myself.
I think gaming in general actually turned me straight(er?). So enviromental influence does have a play, and biological and social factors influencing each other. I personally don't like labeling myself - I am just... me. I remember when I was younger and I'd be attracted to my female classmates and I thought I was a lesbian, so I called myself that. But as I got more into gaming, around when I was entering puberty, I found the male characters way more attractive and in return, I started liking men more irl as well. So I thought I was bi. But as time went on, I started to feel little to no attraction to women, esp nowadays, and I've completely given up on the labels. And now, years later, I'm playing the sims, and I found that I do prefer playing with male sims better and because I have so little females in my town, I just pair up the guys together. I find myself way more drawn into seeing two male sims do romantic interactions, maybe I just like seeing hot dudes on my screen lol. But weirdly, I kinda see myself more in a male sim rather than a female one, even if I based it to look and behave like irl me. But I am not trans/nb, because I do like being a female and would honestly jump off a cliff if I ever was a man. I do enjoy seeing female and male sims interacting that way but my gaze is mostly on the male one and on the female only if I find it incredibly attractive, which is rare. But I feel nothing when I see 2 female sims interact that way and that's why I basically have no lesbian couples in my town.
I guess the enviroment made me a bit confused rather than making me realise stuff lol
I'm the same exact way! I always create the more "idealized* version of myself, but it's of the opposite sex. Sounds weird because I have no desire to transition or anything like that, but I just find myself always self-inserting but as the opposite sex and have them get into a same-sex relationship.
Idk why, I just find it cute.
This video a very interesting/ helpful understanding abt the LGBTQ also am bisexual and I think I knew I was interested in men and women when I was a teenager
It's my birthday!!! Anyone else's?? 🎉🎉
Happy birthday!
happy birthday! 🎊
I don't think ppl mean anything bad with it when they ask hey when did you know u were gay. It is just like a curiosity thing but i can understand if gay was the norm and hetero was something ppl shunned or thought it was some how out there. They would ask oh hey when did u know you were hetero? It would prob over time tick me off as well. I just have to say i am so happy that you took this issue and you talked about it openly and honestly about your feelings and your thoughts. Have a wonderful summer everybody :)
That’s basically what tons of mainstream books and movies and music is about - being attracted to the opposite sex for the first time, which is realizing you are straight
"In other words: both genetics and the environment are to blame for my love of dick." hahaha
Excellent video Satch...well said
Thank you so much for being so open and vulnerable to share this with us!! 🩷
You've made some good points, all I ask for is equality, nothing more and nothing less. I'm not in the closet, and if the topic naturally comes up in a conversation (about men, relationships, etc.) then I don't mind talking about being gay, but I really hate the idea of having to declare myself as gay. That's why I'm not a fan of coming out - why do I need to make an official announcement? It feels so cringe...
the Sims did help me to find my bi identity and that's still something that means a lot to me. i might not be so open about it that i put flags on all my stuff but i'm not exactly cowering in the closet either. knowing that part of my identity helps me to see myself in a more complete way, much like recognising that i'm American, Muslim, that i have Filipino, Italian and German ancestry, that i'm autistic and that i'm a woman are all important parts of my identity. knowing these things about myself make it easier to live an authentic and fulfilling life because it allows a connection to communities of people who also know some of my struggles. that's why i appreciate the fact that queer liberation didn't just decide they were done at LGB. as disappointed as it is to see a gay white man use transphobic dog whistles, it's not surprising. a lot of white and white passing people will cling to a marginalized identity as a way of undermining the struggles of people with more marginalised identities than themselves because it's easier to live in society as the model minority than have to risk relationships with people we care about to stand up for what's right. you're still young so i really hope that you can move past this as you mature. you may not have the backs of your trans comrades but Marsha P. Johnson had yours, and trans activists of today still do as well.
I LOVE YOU!! you are just sooo real and honest! we need that. Please just be you because you are awesome!! When it comes to Sims i hate that they put makeup on my males sims!!! i have gay and straight Sims and i should decide if my male sims where make up or not don't just put make up on my straight married sim!! but i digress i love that it includes all sexual demographics because we are all just want to love and to be loved!! have a wonderful day!!
Ugh no makeup on any randomly generated sims please, my feminine sims would never with that orange glitter shadow and lipstick too light
@@joyfulgirl91 yes!!! that part just throw the ugliest make up on my male sims so I'm not the only one!!! thank you!!
I didnt know we could do that....omw to edit their sexualities in my game play~
Great informative video. Thank you.
Satch you kill me... literally
All of this just really made sense and i feel like this is literally a guide to how to treat being gay
I was already bisexual and out when the Sims 1 came out... I'm surprised you are so much younger but was raised in a homophobic environment when i wasn't. It is a weird question, i've really only been asked by one of my gay friends how i knew, but i've definitely gotten the 'whose the man?' question. It was shocking.
Thank you for sharing your viewpoint. I am a little apprehensive about the stress on making your sexuality your identity.
Am I the only one who didn't know he was gay? I haven't been watching him very long, but I never really thought about it. Anyway, I really enjoyed this video! I really liked the attitude and found it very funny! I liked what you said about being gay not being a good thing or a bad thing - I think everyone gets so bogged down in thinking every part of life has to be good or bad, when really many, if not most parts of life are just kinda neutral.
Growing up as a boy, in Sims 2 i used to ALWAYS create a brown haired woman with a pixie cut, and end up hooking up with other female sims, even when i was originally planning on them being with a man at the start.
A decade later, i finally realized i was trans and i realized i could actually live the life i acted out in games as a kid, after being miserable in a role i felt stuck in all my life.
I remember when I was a tween, I actually fooled around with my guy friend at his house, in front of the TV, whilst a cartoon is playing.
Our experience about sex things at the times are just straight porns, weirdly enough
I think the big step gay and female characters have to take is ironically getting rid of the diversity label. While the straight man can be a coward facing his fears or a cocky dude that gets humbled and improves, the woman is #strong and independent, nothing else, completely replaceable w a cutout of schwarzenegger and the gay character is always gonna be the background character that kisses someone, that can be easily cut out in some countries until he stops being advertised and thought of as such. Develop the character with the development of a straight man, then flip somethings, make him a woman or make his gf a dude, then go from there with the rest of the changes, and advertise it without mentioning any of it as being the central point, boom, you get a new iconic character. it's been done before, with examples like alien, where ripley was never specified as a woman in the script.
Very coherent.
This is a really well made video. I'm honestly suprised Sims 2 didn't have the same options of two same gendered sims getting together like how Sims 3 does. Which makes me glad that I grew up with the Sims 3 since I felt free to do whatever. I remember early on I'd strictly make Sims straight which to me felt boring and repetitive. Some moments I'll catch my sims flirting with the same gender (Btw, yes I did to the traditional mom, dad, older sister, younger brother) and I would just accept it. The Sims definitely didn't _make_ me anything, but the free will to do anything gave me the mindset that it was normal. If anything, I found it weird that people find same-sex relationships weird as a kid xD
The earliest straight memory I have was when I'd hire a baby sitter (Female) and tried to get a male sim to romance her. Assumed the babysitter was a teen like my male sim was (she wasn't). The earliest gay memory I have was when I was actually trying to create a story with the characters (adding personalities and why they are like that) and ended up with a sim who fell in love with their best friend (who happens to be the same gender). Or that one time I made one of my sims fall in love with an alien xD.
I knew I was gay before I even played the sims.
Then it made me realize I’m bisexual-
Sims 3 was the first place I could comfortably explore my feelings. It did not make me gay. It helped me realise: Yea. I like women and men!
Great video!
Queer culture and having labels and more labels are for necessary for political needs and advocacy.
Especially, as a lot of making minorities being "normal" is just making them do the same thing as the majority which isn't the goal for everyone.
You can't just say we're equal and expect the world to reflect that, the who point of recognizing those identities in inequitable treatment and history and so you have to have to different treatments to kinda make up for that. That's the mindset between equity not equality.
Love your point in the video from your perspective, I have felt that too. When I encounter queer people first I acted towards them and anyone else the same, and now it kinda feels not enough so I just act neutral, cause who cares. It just is what is it, to each their own!
For me I discovered I am Ace about a few months ago. I just finally found the definition to it for me. When I was younger I didn't feel "oh I'm into men or women" I had a lot confusion about my sexuality like I thought maybe I might be lesbian since I wasn't into men but at the same time I didn't feel the same about women. I just played my Sims like they just have a relationship.
Recently, I had a similar experience but not with sexuality, but more so with neurodivergency. I have ADHD and suspect ASD. For the later, I won't be getting an official diagnosis as the cons outweigh the pros at this point in my life. But it was brought up to me by a few people. That aside, I would always play in the same way. I never played stories or things like that. I always just made a family, had a baby, and then got bored. I hyperfixated on the cas function (and still do) because the aesthetic of people. Within the last year, I learned that people played out stories and got invested in these little stories which blew me away because I just could never wrap my head around how you get invested in it. Being a psychology and neuro student, I had this realization later on of "oh shit. it's because i never understood imaginative play like that." It common for kids with asd to play in a more utilitarian fashion, hence why lining up toys or organizing toys is a common sign of asd. I was playing the sims in a utilitarian way - make sims, get married, have baby. Because growing up, that's why you're told is normal. I'm sort of reteaching myself how to play imaginatively as well : ).
People can be pretty imaginative. It makes me jealous sometimes 😅
Ive never even thought about making gay sims before i realised im gay and "eh im lesbian" so all my sims became lesbian too lmao khjsvhsvsv
Satch be honest, what do you think about xenopronous? or whatever they are called
I don't really care but it's just an linguistic choice of self-expression, not a minority demographic or protected group of characteristics. If people refuse to use refer to someone using neopronouns I think they have the right to do so.
I don’t want to give the sims any extra credit, but for having come out in a time in a country where gay sex was a literal crime, I’m proud the franchise I’m so involved in was at least somewhat rebelling against homophobia.
Im bisexual woman, till middle of high school i thought that im lesbian. My problem in sims 2 was that i played on the same computer as my older sister and i did not want her to know so i never had wlw family, many streight, mlm, but never wlw
The Sims was one of the things that made me realize that I was aromantic asexual. The Sims 3 had the Unflirty trait. While I mostly made "straight" Sims, I made a Simself and gave her that trait and the way she reacted to other Sims flirting with her mirrored a lot of my own experiences. I'd always been beaten over the head that I HAD to like someone like "that", male, female or otherwise, that not liking anyone at all was "not normal", so I performed a lot of compulsory heterosexuality as a youngster. It helped me realize that what I felt was normal and I'm not broken or anything.
oh man get out of my head 12:45-13:30 best way I've heard it put!!
Well, The Sims didn't awake my sexuality when I was playing for the first time at age of 12 (Disney did though, ironically 😂). But I was always mixing things up as much as game let me. Still all stuff in TS4 is a little weird to me, the pronouns aren't working in my language so my game has funny empty gaps in messages. At least I can do whatever I want. I remember being veru excited for TS3 when it was announced - because promised more options for gameplay. Man, where arebthese times where I could be excited for the sims game 😢
Unfortunately gay marriage I will see only on this game as it's not an option in my country - so for me it's nore likely on the same level as first sims game 😂
I had hints of my actual sexuality from age of 7, but full realisation hit me when I was 23 (took my way to long...) and I started to caring more for what I actually feel and not what others want me to feel. I'm bisexual, meanwhile, everyone I'm attracted to is literally opposite to me so I'm staying forever alone 😅 awkward. Thanks nature!
I started playing it when I was 10 because I saw my favorite sim tuber playing it Xureila
@@Raphaeltheslayer I started playing when I got my first computer 😁 I was so proud. Then I discovered I was gamer at heart and gaming world is far bigger than the Sims.
So I think the Sims did something for me in for of self discovery 😊
The Sims isn't a causation, it's an outlet 💕💕💕
theres an amazing ted talk video about gay genes (that get switched on)
My mom played softball when I was a kid. Now I know this is going to bring about some stereotypes but she had a lot of teammates that were lesbians. I was so fortunate to know people who were gay before I understood sexuality. To me there was nothing wrong with the two women who shared a bedroom because they loved each other and they were nice to me. I grew up around many lesbians and I'm a straight woman that sees nothing wrong with loving whoever you want. We love the soul inside not the shell. Happy Pride month
Oh I love you so much!!
Fun fact.... when I went to bars I preferred gay bars to straight ones (male or female) but I'm straight.
How you feel about pride month is how I feel about blk history month.
Well, if a sim can get pregnant it means they have ovaries, not specifically a vagina. If they can pee standing it might means that they had bottom surgery of some kind. I admit, a bit confusing. But somehow a way to include trans and non binary people in a game born when those concepts were still a bit unspoken of.
You do need a vagina to be pregnant tho.. like that's the entrance and the exit. The first step of bottom surgery for ftm is hysterectomy. Someone who had that surgery would not be able to get pregnant.
@@fred3920 thanks for the clarification, appreciate. I still would like to clarify that mine were more like hypothesis rather than facts, maybe I didn't make that clear enough in my first comments. I still stand by the fact that that vas a confusing way to include everyone in a not so fresh game.
It hasn't made me gay yet but challenge accepted 😂😂
I believe in you
I completely agree with you in regards to queer culture, it seems like the movement has gone from ‘LGBT people are the same as everyone else’ to ‘LGBT people are different from everyone else and should be celebrated’. Like don’t get me wrong LGBT people obviously should have rights but everyone is equal no matter who they are 😅
We're celebrating surviving the hate and violence, is that so wrong?
We aren’t celebrating being better but the progression of society treating us better. It’s like how us black people celebrate events that helped us get rights. Pride month isn’t about the corporations but that’s what people focus on.
Queer people, especially older queer people, grew up in a world that often rejected them and told them they have no value. The Right are still separating us from the idea of family, like we just sprung out of the earth. When you grew up like that you need to remind yourself, and others like you, they have value because it's not baked into your life.
I agree that the aim should be "queerness is just a part of life." It is. But for those who grew up hearing they were worthless hell yeah it's fair they want to feel special.
Why you make it seem that being part if lgbt is a superiority? Pride is not exclusively the L G B T.
@@jimjimjimmy7793 this 💯
Ive played the sims 2 at friends' houses but my dad said i couldnt get it cause i was too young (not yet 12). But i remember making my ken dolls/barbies kiss and stuff, thats how i kinda experimented with it. Though growing up in a christian environment where hetero was the norm i only realised i was bi/pan when i was around 20/21.
Yeah, why can't we just be people. People who like different kind of people. It's not cool to be gay, it's not bad to be gay
"I have a gay friend, you should meet him, I really think you'd both really get along." Like, are they trying to set you two up, or are they trying to put you both into a room together like two cats and hope you both get along?
LGBTQIA+ people don’t celebrate being simply different. the entire point of pride is celebrating the fact that we’re here, queer, and *not going anywhere.* people seem to get this twisted a lot and i can only assume they haven’t read up on much queer history.
satch literally says in the video that being surrounded by straight people constantly has made him feel isolated at times…
because community is important. its quite literally part of humanity, itself. humans are social creatures by nature and being around people *like yourself* assists in feelings of adequacy and boosts esteem. straight people get this by default because they make up the majority of people, so to say queer people asking for a month to remember and celebrate their history is too much to ask for,,, is ridiculous.
again i understand the intentions in this video are good and i’m not trying to start anything. just stating my viewpoint considering half of the US congress, among other governments (partially and fully,) is trying to pass laws that restrict gender affirming care and unofficially claiming queer people are predators again. just this week a pride flag was set on fire in front of someone’s home in my city.
straight people are not going to look out for you, they never have in the past and will give you and your community up in an instant if it buys them another day.
queer people have to stand together, always, or we really have nothing.
People are too young to remember the 90s. It’s really a shame every generation has to make the same mistakes for themselves
Sorry but you're completely deluded
I think your awesome! Thank you.
I played the Sims since the first iteration. It did not change my opinions on the subject. My gameplay has always followed my ideals, which happen to be very strict conservative. My base save is already fixed problems I had with the updates, making ir no longer an issue. I just delete all the townies that do not fit my gameplay and fill the save with my own creations.