2017/04/10: Six Minutes on the True Purpose of University Education
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- I recently spoke at Harvard University, in interview format, on the topic: Mask of Compassion: Post-Modernism & Neo-Marxism. This is a five minute clip from that talk (available in full at bit.ly/2qKZTwS) on the true purpose of university education.
Educate yourself. Become articulate -- able to think, form arguments, act and lead. Transcend your ignorance and victimhood. Reduce the suffering in the world. Lead a heroic life.
That's the purpose of any university education worthy of the term.
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He truly is the architype for academic hero.
I'm sorry to write this but it's archetype. And yes, he is.
Aderla22 np. Sent from Phone with english as 3rd language.
pinegulf don't worry my man, your meaning was understood 👍🏻
He a PIECE of shit
If only I knew this when I went to University.
You could always go back with your new knowledge!
If only I knew this before starting an Art History degree that I was obliged to finish
we will put things back to the order in our own lives. i am with you on ur journey, cos my story is very similar to urs.
You can always go back.
I wish I could go back and do it again. I felt like I wasted that time, I was too young and dumb to use it wisely. Almost 27 now, could still go back, but do I really want to spend 4 years of my life and accrue more debt?
Read. Great. Books.
Or listen to great audiobooks while you clean your room.
Ry P Also, clean your room.
Clean your books, while you listen to your room.
Some people lern better with visual, others better with audio. Audio books are amazing for dyslexis people.
What if im a bum? Check mate Jordan Peterson.
As it turns out, the post-modernists are not taking over academia in order to change the cultural ideas that it transmits, but to destroy the mechanism of cultural transmission itself. Post-modernists are there not to upend, but to annihilate.
"You're on a heroic mission"
If you're a student and you watched this video you need to remember this. Your heroic mission is the long march back through our institutions so that you will be the person who teaches people to be great, unlike the current crop of professors teaching them to be weak.
It's really ironic that the original nihilist's critique of Christianity was that it supposedly taught weakness. Go forward 100 years and postmodernism has found a way to preach weakness on a whole new level.
I am enrolled in engineering and we are pretty lucky in that most of our professors teach concrete skills and discipline, but engineers can't fix the humanities - so go forward, upstanding humanities students and academics, let us know when you need help!
The Family Virtue Signal
This could be the answer to the capture of the academy by virtue signalling cultural Marxists. Set up a crowd funded institution of the world wide Web, a kind of Aristotelian Lyceum, where real knowledge is encouraged. It would be greatly helped if thinkers like Jordan Petersson or Roger Scruton in Britain,plus the legions of non-academic lovers of wisdom to be found on the Web, were co- opted for this endeavour.
Eric Bliar.
are you familiar with the strauss-howe generational theory sargon?
thank you for your comment sargon and always dont wanna see the badman or get evil,,
Well said. I have to tell you your video on Syria war was incredible. You are a voice that needs to heard!! You and Peterson are heroes in my book. Thanks for being you.
This was so powerful that my desk was sorted.
same here *thumbup*
It's so powerful that my random number generator got sorted, and I always win at solitaire because no matter how much I shuffle the deck the cards always come up in order.
so sorted
Sort yourself out by doing what you know you need to do instead of getting a temporary sense of meaning by watching this video and patting yourself on the back because you understood it.
Ha!
New Years resolution syndrome
He should pin this
But how do I do that? I don't even know where to start.
Triggered me right there.
And this is what we are losing with education today - - true abilities to think, to question. Read books, yes. But CONTINUE reading books AFTER you leave school as well!!
Alexander Petrenko
Yes!!! I've always had an issue with people just stop reading and learning when school is over. Although one friend told me that after having dry books rammed down your theist for 4 years, reading loses its appeal.
Watched the whole "interview" today and wanted to cut this clip out myself and show it to everyone. The emotional pitch is unbelievable. Bravo sir... Bravo.
Christopher O'Sullivan I felt the same way, I have watched it 5 times and still get emotional at the crisis of our university culture that he highlights. I get emotional because it strikes a deep cord with my sentiments.
But what about the emotional high-pitch sir, I mean with his voice
I love jpb folks, chill
-read books
-clean room
-????
-become logos
You got your order messed up.
Clean room
Read great books (Twilight doesn't count)
Acquire logos (reasoned thought, roughly speaking)
Rescue your father (use logos to improve society)
Slay the dragon (Raise your kids to do the same as this list*, transcend your own shortcomings)
*I believe ideas cannot be killed, but you can at least make less people believe in bad ones and that is the only way to keep the dragon at bay.
Ideas could probably be killed with a big/fast enough comet, though.
True, but then there would be no ideas and that is not exactly ideal.
Don't forget about saving your father from the Underworld
ayyyy
.I need to start cleaning my apartment, its in chaos, my head is in chaos, my life is in chaos. You've become a huge influence in my life. Time for me to find a purpose and start taking responsibility. You've given me a lift in a time I've desperately needed it.
Be careful with drugs, its a nice escape but abusing them does not provide any answers.
Thank you. You remind me of how much I still have to learn, why and how much life is worth living.
Praise Kek.
Also, I hope you and Joe Rogan end up doing more podcasts. Currently watching the most recent one for the 3rd time.
SterileZebra ~ Shadilay.
One thing at a time fampai, Kek brings chaos to bring the opportunity to give shape to it, whatever it's manifestation is. Shadilay
The first speaker at my first day of my university in the Netherlands said almost the exact same thing. Pretty nice to be reminded of the true reason to attend university actively.
What university was it ?
Professor you are the reason I've always respected teachers, to hear your great speeches is to hear truth, and that is something I look up to.
2:55 "Struggle with all your soul on behalf of the good."
I don't think any other living university professor has ever said anything close to that. Seems like they've all got better things to do these days. Like, for example, surrendering mindlessly on behalf of the bad.
i need to go to university just to understand these dam videos. I'm still on clean your room.
Michael Grace lmao
You mean you Googled it all?
until recently, university was one of few places to acquire a useful academic education. Now-a-days a university degree is little more than an indication that you are (or once were anyway) capable of completing a moderately challenging, multi-year task
I am not going to Bullshit you.
University, as it is, would help almost nothing. I study International Relations at a top university in my country. One would expect eager students, with sharp minds trying their best to understand the concepts being thrown at them, relating one thing with another, being taught by smart and articulate professors that wil blow their minds every given lecture...
Well, it is not. Most cannot handle basic philosophical concepts that have been discussed for the last two years. Cannot relate one thing with another unless someone tells them that they are somehow related (which leaves them open to manipulation by ill-intended faculty); have not read a single book beyond a few suggested chapters in class and can hardly articulate any speech more complex than some superficial political slogan. What is even worse is that, since they are in this top university, they feel they ARE getting a true education and feel they know enough to comment what happens in the world around them. The other day, some self proclaimed feminist girl told me Islam does not demand women to wear a Hijab. It seems amazing but it really happened. I could only ask her if she ever read the Quran and the answer was a resounding "no". What I mean by this is that she had no idea about either Islam or her feminism, thus serving as an example of how they cannot connect two concepts in a coherent structure.
If you cannot attend a university at the moment, I would like to suggest you something: go to a library and pick a book on a topic that interests you. It doesn't matter if it is something like philosophy or engineering for dummies. Read it and learn as much as you can. After you finish it, you will know a little more and become able to discern which schools of thought seem more interesting and allow you to dwelve further into it. That, in turn, will allow you to perhaps read the authors of said school of thought themselves and become wiser and more well read, expanding you interest to fields you didn't even imagine would one day interest you. I would say that would be the academic equivalent of "cleaning your room": begin from the "meaningless" and build your way up. Do not feel discouraged before the task if it seems too great. Apply yourself to it, begin at the beggining and steam on.
Sorry if my english contains errors, it is a second language, but I felt like I could help you a little and I truly wish you success, should you feel inspired by my comment. Cheers mate.
gre8 Thank you. This is my view word for word. If only most young people had a similar outlook.
Holy shit. What a fucking King.
God I wish you taught me at university. I swear to God, some of us are really trying to learn and create and contribute. I just want to better myself and become a stronger and wiser person. I don't want to play politics or get embroiled in the bullshit. Not all of us are absorbed into the SocialJusticePuritan machine, and trust me, a lot of us are fighting your corner. We will not allow the censorship and deliberate watering down of academia to continue forever. Thank you, even from the internet you can be a very good teacher, and a figure to look up to for standing up and sticking with your convictions.
You move me to tears every time your speak. You're full of such passion and fire, you will never be forgotten. You will on in the hearts, minds, and works of those you have reached. You're a great man, I'm filled with absolute joy whenever I see another video uploaded to this channel. Thank you, from the bottom of my heart, for everything you have done. Now excuse me while I go clean my room.
I was in the humanities. And I mean I was really in them. I loved reading philosophy and challenging my tacit assumptions. I dove into the ancients, and was totally compelled, reading book after book. And then.... post modern social justice ideology took the forefront of class discussions one winters simmester. Needless to say, I am now a carpenter apprentice and feel a whole lot more sane about life.
The most awful class was a social anthropology one. The teacher was insane. It totally put me off of arguing.
How are you doing now?
This part is worth the highlight. maybe even could be a featured video on your channel for those who have not heard your stance on the purpose of a university.
Go read a book, Sunshine.
roughly speaking
Thank you Prof. Jordan of inspiring many people all across the globe! Much love from Belgium
My favorite Peterson video. I am glad you took this excerpt out of the long video because I was trying in vain to point people in that video to this exact except! A must watch for all parents of students, uni students and high school students.
Professor Peterson, I simply adore you and your message! Please continue infusing us with so much knowledge, wisdom, inspiration and for awakening the light of our potential!
Love this part of the talk! The interviewer did a great job getting you fired up 🔥
Jordan is a living legend
Thank you so much for this Mr Peterson. This clip resonates so much with my own thoughts during the semester. Thanks again!
I cried listening to this because I understood my university let me down, and I let them let me down aswell; I let myself down. But it also made it clear for me. My heroic mission is not over.
Thank you professor, you have given me much of what most of the educators in my life forgot to give me. From the bottom of my heart. Thank you!
Since I found your videos I left my job as a delivery driver and got a job as a high school art teacher. I listen to you almost every morning before school. Your words always put me in an affirmative state of mind. Thank you
I feel so lucky to be able to hear and witness this information.
Awesome. Feel the love young people, he is encouraging you to think, to speak and to shine a light on the world.
this is the greatest thing ever. I have been thinking about these things a lot recently and this rant was the most eloquent and powerful kind. this was incredibly accurate and describes exactly how I feel about the world, and it was off the cuff
Dr. Peterson, you truly have made an impact on my life. I recently started to go to Barnes and Noble or my schools library to start reading. Books from philosophy to science.
Thank your Dr. Peterson. Your lectures and the self-authoring program has helped me be a better teacher and student. I'll be going through a big career transition, and with your resources and the ones you've directed me towards I'll have a much more manageable journey.
man, before having learned of JBP, I believed true moral heroes were only left to be found in great literature.
Thank you JP for your priceless wisdom.
Still cleaning my room, hope to be done soon.
Watching the full conversation, I thought that someone had to clip that section for a standalone video. Dr. P delivers!
for those of us who left the University behind this is 5 Minutes on the True Purpose of Watching JBP Videos
As a teacher, I find this truly inspiring! Thank you JBP!
Just finishing cleaning my room! Feels good!!
I'm 27 and just recently discovering what fields I should have gone into almost a decade ago. I've found these talks very valuable, Jordan; it's amazing how much life one can get through without ever encountering anyone who tells it like it is. Definitely ready to stop feeling sorry for myself as a naturally agreeable introvert and allow my actual self to be expressed in the real world. Hopefully, in the next couple of years I will have worked myself to a point where further education is possible, in my case, but until then I take comfort in knowing that my accumulation of knowledge outside of the educational system and developing precision of speech are a step in the right direction. Here's to self-actualization.
What are you hoping to study?
I enjoyed this. I still have my great books on my shelves which I look at from time to time. One of the great things for me doing a humanities degree was accessing primary sources from the library.
I liked this so much, I've listened to it 3 times now
Mr. Peterson, you're one smart man. I wish I have known about you a while back. You are extremely inspiring and true to the point in your thinking. Thanks for posting your lectures, debates and interviews. So much to learn...
Currently a college student. This is undoubtedly one of my favorite JP videos.
Simply..wow!
Extraordinarily well said and straight from both heart & mind.
Wish i had him as a teacher when i was a kid. He cares enough to tell the truth & really goes above & beyond to make sure everyone understands.
You can tell he fells very strongly about this. Cape-less hero
Thanks for shining a light on the world, Dr. Peterson!
The more I love the more I am amazed with how powerful language is. If it is refined, indeed, pretty much anything can be done.
Also, great point on the university problem. I too feel that there is this miscommunication of what you are suppose to do.
I am so showing this vid to my grade 12 students, tomorrow!
Am touched by your words, and I dedicate myself to follow your advice for life. Am second year university student in Uganda.
This man impresses me more and more every time he puts something out.
I don't know why I get so excited when Jordan Peterson uploads a new video. I still didn't finish the last one.
I am a Harvard grad living in Asia. My advice: don't flatter them too much, they will graduate with a feeling on entitlement, and that is not healthy. Apart from that, I loved the talk. Thank you
Found a good momentum during this talk Dr Peterson, well put!
I just watched the whole thing. This is a great nugget.
You really are an inspiration Dr Peterson, thank you.
Dr. Peterson, you are truly fighting the good fight. Thank you.
Here, here! That was incredibly well put, so much so that I actually found myself applauding the computer monitor!
The passion this man has for people bettering themselves is one of the most contagious feelings. It's been said before, this man is helping an entire generation of young men find the light they've been searching for.
And the greatest part about him is that it's genuine.
Wow, finally. Someone of like mind. I was beginning to think there weren't any of you guys left.
Wonderful advise! Exact reason why I made an audiobook recommendation series on YT
I'm a big fan Peterson and I've watched a decent amount of his video's, but this where, this was just amazing.
I love this dude. I dont even know him and hes the closest that i ever had for a father.
Dr. Peterson has a tight mental grip on these argumentative subjects encompassing society. I admire a thorough explanation based on observation and experience rather than theory and conjecture.
Dude. Dr. Peterson nearly broke down in tears here. One of the most important messages ever told is being said here.
You are my hero. Keep fighting the good fight!
This one brings me to tears.
Tell us what you REALLY think, Dr. Peterson! At your best here, brilliant. And thank you for the inspiration. The challenge of holding the audience in thrall is always in teetering on that narrow edge between heated passion and exasperated anger, and your oration here was masterful in its teeter! And for bringing those words to that particular audience, you have my admiration. Many of them are no doubt taking detailed notes on how to vanquish you, their newly identified enemy. But I think the number of those you have inspired to do good far outnumber them and will prevail in the end.
This guy speaks with passion. It's really beautiful.
He has so much passion it's amazing
Listening to Jordan Peterson speak like this always makes me so emotional
One of the best speeches I think I have ever heard Jordan orate; he just couldn't be more correct
Thanks for articulating this idea Dr. Peterson. As a humanities student, I've stuck with studying history and politics because I was lucky enough to have had professors who articulated this same stance to me. When I came out of high school I thought that the humanities would give me fulfillment. After a year of college and before I had good professors I thought I had made the wrong choice and was wasting my time. Reading the foundational texts of the fields you study and those that built your culture is invaluable.
The last time I was this early, my father was in the overworld!
How did you rescue him.
belly of the underworld*
I thought my comment implied I hadn't done any rescuing lmao.
Absolutely amazing.
"Power of the best sort"
Auctoritas non potestas. Authority, not power. Wisdom, not threats.
You both articulated and demonstrated your hypothesis.
I just cleaned my damn room and I'm about to go rescue the old boy.
Profound man and profound speech. Stay strong Dr. Peterson.
Powerful and Compelling
Jordan Peterson is amazing. Most of the things he's said in his videos I've been saying for years, but not nearly as articulately as he does. You're an inspiration Dr. Peterson.
It's a pleasure to coexist with you, Jordan.
We need more university professors like Dr Peterson. Every college student needs to hear this on their first day.
Thank god! Another Jordan Peterson video, I've just finished cleaning up my room!!!!
Awesome video!!!
Drinking game:
One shot for every time you see JBP drink water in his video's.
Joseph Campbell he has gum disease, sort yourself out
We need more of him
Absolutely riveting
"Transcend your ignorance and victimhood.
Brilliant suggestion!
This was a great clip Mr. Peterson! Should be mandatory viewing for every 17-18 year old entering college/university.
Will go back to cleaning room now.
Absolutely brilliant
wow! that nearly blew me out of my damn room...
Wish we had professors like this
This guy is so fired up!
you are spectacular sir.
Powerful. Immensely powerful.
Love this guy. Wish I could afford his books though! !!!
Just read Tom Wolfe's The Kingdom of Speech. This speech is a great prologue to that book.
You are the coolest man alive!!!!
Jordan B Peterson has been on a tear the last few months!! Gawt dayuum!