Spear Chugger: Revisiting the Lies

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  • @hometeamhistory806
    @hometeamhistory806  Před 7 měsíci +38

    Hey guys I appreciate the corrections. Personally I’ve heard both “Spear Chucker” and “Spear Chugger” (in reference to African warriors). Apologies for the error. I likely observed and now expressed improper terminology.

    • @indigop38
      @indigop38 Před 7 měsíci +2

      If you heard someone say spearchugger, they were incorrect. And that’s how vocabulary, phrases, terminologies, oral histories, scriptures, pronunciations and other info become corrupted and distorted within a culture.

    • @AfricanMaverick
      @AfricanMaverick Před 7 měsíci

      Why did you Americans and Europeans refer to African warriors as such while they have nothing to do with Africa?

    • @alvanalvino
      @alvanalvino Před 7 měsíci

      ❤️✊🏽

    • @ptolemeeselenion1542
      @ptolemeeselenion1542 Před 7 měsíci +1

      "Spear chugger." 🤭

    • @jer-bearzy
      @jer-bearzy Před 7 měsíci +4

      Hey brother…no worries. You put yourself out there and help educate us on the regular. I'm truly grateful!
      You're human and make mistakes…grateful to share that experience with you, too!

  • @jer-bearzy
    @jer-bearzy Před 7 měsíci +90

    I find it stomach-churning that becoming technologically better at wiping out more life is what could classify you as a “better” human. We really should be reflective about how we perceive things.

    • @sympthylost
      @sympthylost Před 7 měsíci +15

      Unfortunately, history often has a Eurocentric framing which everything else ends up measured up against, and much of European history revolves around wars.

    • @onlythetruth883
      @onlythetruth883 Před 7 měsíci +2

      I agree one has to be careful with perception. As how you all confuse having a lack of intellect with being oppressed.

    • @onlythetruth883
      @onlythetruth883 Před 7 měsíci +1

      ​@@sympthylost
      Remind me again exactly why ancestors tricked them into taking you all, knowing full well there would be no other opportunity for you to move yourselves en masse to invade.

    • @Tareltonlives
      @Tareltonlives Před 7 měsíci +6

      @@sympthylostAnd technology is considered the mark of a superior fighter. Except when it's convenient for the Europeans.

    • @sympthylost
      @sympthylost Před 7 měsíci +10

      @@onlythetruth883 Sorry, but I have no idea what this sentence you wrote is supposed to be saying.

  • @AJAY16411
    @AJAY16411 Před 7 měsíci +50

    I just wanna say that the amount of skill you need to have to be able to spear an animal is huge

    • @Tareltonlives
      @Tareltonlives Před 7 měsíci +7

      From Masai il-Moran to European knights to native hunters on the American plains, going after a big dangerous animal with a spear was basically showing off the warrior's skill and courage, and basically warrior training. Alexander the Great, Darius the Great, Sargon II, etc all boasted of fighting lions and bulls and bears and such armed with their spears.

    • @indigop38
      @indigop38 Před 7 měsíci +4

      @@Tareltonlives great point. Include strength in the abilities it displays.

    • @ladybluelotus
      @ladybluelotus Před 7 měsíci +1

      Agreed!

    • @shelanel5348
      @shelanel5348 Před 7 měsíci +2

      no doubt!! I can't even throw a base ball properly much lest a spear lol

    • @beverlyhandy623
      @beverlyhandy623 Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@shelanel5348but you are a AFRICAN

  • @Ramiiam
    @Ramiiam Před 7 měsíci +17

    Spears were the oldest and best infantry weapon from time immemorial until the gunpowder age, and well into that period too. Every civilization used them.

  • @beatworldrecords6080
    @beatworldrecords6080 Před 7 měsíci +20

    The last part is that the spear is in all but close combat a superior weapon to the sword.

    • @tylerrobbins8311
      @tylerrobbins8311 Před 7 měsíci +3

      I mean I am pretty sure they sword is superior as a weapin individually. Thing is logistics win wars. It takes very little time to properly learn to use a spear, it takes years for a sword.
      And this ignores the cost of making a sword.

    • @Tareltonlives
      @Tareltonlives Před 7 měsíci +1

      Every single culture in history has used the spear heavily. Until the modern era's common use of machine guns, spears (and bayonets) were essential to fighting. Swords have always been sidearms or used by skirmishing cavalry.

  • @TRUTHTEACHER2007
    @TRUTHTEACHER2007 Před 7 měsíci +41

    Well the Ancient Greeks had whole regiments made up of spear checkers. In fact Alexander loved them so much he made them longer and put then in formation.

    • @alvanalvino
      @alvanalvino Před 7 měsíci

      Alexander the Great copied the style of Rameses the great who defeated the sea peoples with longer spears. As usual Europeans like to take credit for other peoples ideas they steal. Also Alexander the Great had the bow men of Nubia as mercenaries as they Africans his men where the greatest in the entire history of mankind, past present and future and no ancient army ever defeated them. The Egyptian army helped Alexander defeat the Persians and to build his empire.

    • @kimberly8695
      @kimberly8695 Před 7 měsíci +7

      Yes, the Spartans. Their spears were called dories. Also, there is an entire Norse myth that references a spear the dwarves made for Odin. It was called Gungnir.

    • @TRUTHTEACHER2007
      @TRUTHTEACHER2007 Před 7 měsíci +4

      @@kimberly8695 Didn't know that one. I'll add it to my list.

    • @alvanalvino
      @alvanalvino Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@kimberly8695 We know that there are no tribes or ethnic groups of dwarfs to be found anywhere in Europe besides in the Congo and many parts of ancient Africa. If Odin wasn’t making his spears in Africa then they were made in Asgard.

    • @deliusnorman4585
      @deliusnorman4585 Před 7 měsíci +1

      😊

  • @grapeshot
    @grapeshot Před 7 měsíci +14

    Yep a number of ancient and medieval armies used Nubians as auxiliary troops and as mercenaries🏹🏹🏹

  • @TheInternetIsDeadToMe
    @TheInternetIsDeadToMe Před 7 měsíci +9

    Chugging spears sounds like some sort of painful drinking game.

    • @scotthillman5084
      @scotthillman5084 Před 6 měsíci +1

      I just googled Spear Chugger, and along with this video at very top and center, I got about 20 recipes for various cocktail drinks LOL

  • @afrinaut3094
    @afrinaut3094 Před 7 měsíci +7

    You pretty much covered it! Great job. With that said, I wish I still had the recording of me in grade-school, as a little boy when I gave a class representation of this very topic in my mostly white & asian-Islander school. Back then & now, I gave examples of indigenous African swords, Nubian, Yoruba, Edo, Fon, Akan, etc. That was one way to break the “spear chukker” propaganda (“Africans had no swords” lie). Besides swords AND SPEARS being used in every civilization on earth. So how can spears, be proof of not having civilization.

  • @mrnancy1114
    @mrnancy1114 Před 7 měsíci +8

    The Irony is, the much vaunted civilization in history, the Kemetian were the spearmen, it was their brother civilization the Ta-Setians who were laterally the Bowmen.

  • @fongangamassana6034
    @fongangamassana6034 Před 7 měsíci +6

    The term spear chugger can only be used as a defamatory term by someone who doesn’t know military history. The spear was the most widely used projectile weapon in war fare across all continents. It is cheap to manufacture ( which is good since you can easily equip thousands of men ) , it has a good range , any one can be trained relatively quickly to use it ( as compared to a bow and arrow, or a sword), and there are tens of different variations possible. There a rigid spears , flexible spears , retractable spears ( it can be folded in on itself to become a short skewer) , long spears( that allowed you to control the field by keeping your opponent at bay). The Roman army was composed at 2/3 of spear men . That’s how ingenious the weapon, simple and effective.
    The ignorant use it as an insult, but the knowledgeable sees it as a compliment.

  • @Genesis-xp3iw
    @Genesis-xp3iw Před 7 měsíci +10

    Majority so busy playin spell check detective, they completely missed the lesson.
    🥃🥴

  • @davidscott9482
    @davidscott9482 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I was brought to a reflective pause after reading the media's title. Most of the neighborhood & Elders ( Southern USA) during my growing stages , would referred to( all )hand tossing acts as" chunking".

  • @Grant918Tulsa
    @Grant918Tulsa Před 7 měsíci +4

    All civilizations, armies used spears and they're not giving flack about it. I swear the double standard.

  • @grapeshot
    @grapeshot Před 7 měsíci +4

    I remember first hearing that slur on the movie do The Right Thing.

    • @Juandraym1
      @Juandraym1 Před 7 měsíci

      I first heard it on the TV show M*A*S*H. (Actually B4 that).

  • @megaoldskool76
    @megaoldskool76 Před 7 měsíci +4

    Thank you HOME TEAM. Much love to u and your family

  • @AlmightyJio
    @AlmightyJio Před 7 měsíci +2

    Bring back the old into. It used to hit me right in the ancestors between the rhythm and the chant. Too iconic to abandon

  • @disposableninja7958
    @disposableninja7958 Před 7 měsíci +14

    He says chugger on purpose- remember chucker is derogatory and CZcams has an algorithm and policy that could demonetize the video.

  • @verraguid
    @verraguid Před 7 měsíci +9

    Spear Chugging sounds very suspect

    • @ptolemeeselenion1542
      @ptolemeeselenion1542 Před 7 měsíci

      They like to project their Freudian phallic fantasies onto others.

  • @crankybear1236
    @crankybear1236 Před 7 měsíci +2

    The gun is a descendant of the spear.

  • @gadeyeye6268
    @gadeyeye6268 Před 7 měsíci +4

    Proud spear chugger here 💪🏾😎 appreciate it bro

    • @Juandraym1
      @Juandraym1 Před 7 měsíci

      I hope not.

    • @gadeyeye6268
      @gadeyeye6268 Před 7 měsíci

      @@Juandraym1 😂😂 I meant spear chucker thanks

  • @kothar6159
    @kothar6159 Před 7 měsíci +3

    I rather have a long spear to defend myself from a lion then a sword back in the day😂

  • @daviousking3828
    @daviousking3828 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Thank you for what you do. Much appreciated

  • @jmanhope1745
    @jmanhope1745 Před 7 měsíci +7

    There are neither inferior nor superior people on Planet Earth. What we must do is begin to work together through cooperation and organization. Doing this will help us solve many problems and challenges we are faced with. We have a lot of work to do, no matter how we slice and dice it!

    • @ptolemeeselenion1542
      @ptolemeeselenion1542 Před 7 měsíci +1

      "There are neither inferior nor superior people on Planet Earth."
      I beg to differ in regard to that idealistic foolishness. All animals are equal: some are simply more equal than others. Whether we like it or not, evolution, achievement and evem barbary defines either the finest ubermensch/wise ones/whatecer or the filthiest of the strong. Even in African philosophies, we get taught about it: the village fool's below, the middle people in their rightful place, then the wise men above.
      The day when the fool wanted to rule over both the wise and the middle people, then the middle people to become fools and wises, then the wise to be pushed to the middle and astray of the village was the day when Mankind get f*cked up.

    • @mysticmajin3769
      @mysticmajin3769 Před 7 měsíci +1

      ​@@ptolemeeselenion1542I mean physically maybe but it's all about surroundings throw a ginger in the Sahara see how they do or a central African in the tundra of norway

    • @ptolemeeselenion1542
      @ptolemeeselenion1542 Před 7 měsíci

      @@mysticmajin3769 My older brother worked in the Yukon and in the far-northern areas of Quebec for years he was doing much better than most of the Whites and Aborigenals out there.

    • @jmanhope1745
      @jmanhope1745 Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@ptolemeeselenion1542 are there people void of below average members? Are there people void of average members? Are there people void of above average members?

    • @AfricanMaverick
      @AfricanMaverick Před 7 měsíci

      Yes, you Americans should work together, but Africa cannot work together with something he doesn't even know exists.

  • @johnhardaway2914
    @johnhardaway2914 Před 7 měsíci

    Keep doing great work

  • @lemontadams3029
    @lemontadams3029 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Chucker. Chugger is a British slang for someone who stands on the street and solicits passers-bys

  • @AT-vs7ho
    @AT-vs7ho Před 7 měsíci +1

    Where can I find this “speak afrique” it’s not on Amazon or iTunes. I sounded really awesome.

  • @ZeroOskul
    @ZeroOskul Před 7 měsíci +7

    Hometeam!
    A trope is a metaphorical use or a word or term.
    "The cat's out of the bag" is a trope that means "the secret has been revealed".
    It does not refer to any real cat really getting out of any real bag.
    A "chugger" is one who drinks.
    "Chug! Chug! Chug!"
    A "chucker" is one who throws.
    "Chuck that wood on the fire."
    I cannot imagine where you got "chugger" from, but that is 100% the wrong term and the wrong usage.
    A "spear chucker" is a trope, being a metaphor for "backward Black African fool".
    Black Africans being backward fools is a bigoted view.
    It is not a metaphorical use of a word or term.

  • @onevoice4894
    @onevoice4894 Před 7 měsíci +10

    Isn’t the correct term “spear CHUCKER”?

  • @UBeesh10
    @UBeesh10 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Bruh, chugger? It's CHUCKER

    • @Dweeb212
      @Dweeb212 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Algorithm spots derogatory language, I think you'd be better off reading a book tho than trying to rap your head around algorithms.

  • @indigop38
    @indigop38 Před 7 měsíci +13

    Chugging means gulping or swallowing deeply. I think you mean chucking.

    • @ptolemeeselenion1542
      @ptolemeeselenion1542 Před 7 měsíci

      🤭

    • @disposableninja7958
      @disposableninja7958 Před 7 měsíci +9

      It’s a CZcams algorithm thing, it’s a derogatory term

    • @indigop38
      @indigop38 Před 7 měsíci

      @@disposableninja7958 are you saying algorithms created an incorrect video title ? Please explain.

    • @ladybluelotus
      @ladybluelotus Před 7 měsíci +1

      ​@@indigop38
      😂 I guess you don't know how algorithms work? Dense much?!

  • @Juandraym1
    @Juandraym1 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Chucker, as in "chuck" (i.e throw): Chuck that in the garbage please🚮.
    Chugger refers to chug as in drinking: Those guys really know how to "chug" that beer🥴.
    I don't see anyone "chugging" a spear (save in the perverse sense😫).

  • @ptolemeeselenion1542
    @ptolemeeselenion1542 Před 7 měsíci +1

    This reply segment did not dissapoint. 🤭

  • @sr4triple7s27
    @sr4triple7s27 Před 7 měsíci +8

    The people that talk about the Spears that my ancestors carried carry noses on their face that are the shape of Spears. Pointy.

  • @kiritugeorge4684
    @kiritugeorge4684 Před 7 měsíci

    Please tackle the smoke signals trope as well and do a comparative of communication methods south of the Sahara vs outside before Europe's industrial revolution (which was only made possible through Africa).

  • @scorpzgca
    @scorpzgca Před 5 měsíci

    Great video the spear is a very importan weapon in African culture

  • @AlexanderJoneshttps
    @AlexanderJoneshttps Před 7 měsíci +4

    I've never heared the word spear chugger till now

    • @ZeroOskul
      @ZeroOskul Před 7 měsíci +7

      It's spearchucker.
      It referred originally to the Zulu warriors who held back the British forces during the Anglo-Zulu war, as an insult against the British that they had lost so much using "modern warfare" against a people who used ancient weapons.
      The secondary reference supposing that the British were particularly stupid to have lost because Black Africans were presumed to be subhuman.

    • @AlexanderJoneshttps
      @AlexanderJoneshttps Před 7 měsíci

      @@ZeroOskul Interesting I never knew that but thanks for the factual facts through 🙂

    • @stewie7338
      @stewie7338 Před 7 měsíci

      @@ZeroOskul Hi - I am from Britain and Britain did not lose the Anglo-Zulu Wars. If memory serves they lost one battle. Have you ever heard of the Mfecane my friend?

    • @ZeroOskul
      @ZeroOskul Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@stewie7338 "lost so much" or did so poorly does not mean "lost it all" or totally failed.

    • @Tareltonlives
      @Tareltonlives Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@stewie7338 The British lost three battles: Isandlwana, Intombe, and Hlobane. The Anglo-African armies (also containing Cape colonists, Boers, and native Africans) lost about 2,000 men in 5 months. The Zulu lost more, but decisively won the first campaign at Isandlwana before the British return to conquer at Ulundi.
      The Mfcane was all-African with the Europeans simply providing arms, a combination of drought, state formation, and imperial conquest. It's best compared to the Migration period in Europe.

  • @ivar1998
    @ivar1998 Před 7 měsíci +5

    It's chucker not chugger, bruh

  • @ZAZUtakiyaho
    @ZAZUtakiyaho Před 7 měsíci +3

    I’ve seen some black Americans call Africans this

    • @AfricanMaverick
      @AfricanMaverick Před 7 měsíci

      Because black Americans are westerners just like the British, so they appropriated British terminology and applied it to Africans. Africans, however, don't care because the bulk of them don't understand English and are ignorant of western world. All of us have insults for one another, so we're cool.

    • @soda8736
      @soda8736 Před 7 měsíci +2

      And booty scratcher

    • @thecrimsoncure8201
      @thecrimsoncure8201 Před 5 měsíci

      And Africans call Black Americans way worse. So what? 🤷

  • @ptolemeeselenion1542
    @ptolemeeselenion1542 Před 7 měsíci +2

    "Spear chugger" . In the last news, Greeks were the ones to invent Souvlakis. Not us.
    This newfound derogative term make me a little famished, though.

  • @diversiform
    @diversiform Před 7 měsíci +1

    chug /chŭg/
    noun
    A dull explosive sound, usually short and repeated, made by or as if by a laboring engine.
    A short sudden tug or pull.
    A person of native American descent.
    Since most african americans are actually native to the Caribbean/ Americas…. Amaru ca
    Maybe your chugger interpretation Might make a teeeeny bit of sense ?

    • @diversiform
      @diversiform Před 7 měsíci +1

      Kurimeo Ahau
      Check him out
      He uses primary sources… not speculation and propaganda….

  • @Tareltonlives
    @Tareltonlives Před 7 měsíci +5

    If the Europeans used terms like "soldier" or "infantry", it would make their "civilization" seem less unique. Hence the stereotyping.

    • @tylerrobbins8311
      @tylerrobbins8311 Před 7 měsíci +2

      Well actually the proper term is skirmsher. And yes everyone used them. In fact both Spain and Portugal were famous for their javelin use all the way into the colonial age.

    • @Tareltonlives
      @Tareltonlives Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@tylerrobbins8311 The Zulu fought very much like the Romans: thrown javelins then close in, impact with a large shield, and stabbing with a short, broad blade.

    • @Tareltonlives
      @Tareltonlives Před 7 měsíci +1

      And of course different African people and nations fought in different ways: there were phalanxes, musketeers, archers, swordsmen, cavalry, skirmishers all in different combinations. The long-headed Kenyan spears are for a different style of spearfighting than the shorter spears of Benin, for example. Yes, most people didn't wear armor, but that's true for most armies. Armor isn't cheap. European and Asian spearmen would have roughly the same equipment: fabric armor if any, a wood or hide shield, an iron-tipped spear, and a sword or long knife as a sidearm. The throwing axes of Kongo aren't that different from those of the early Germans in their use. All cultures have stickfighting and clubs and hide shields.
      It's funny that the Victorians with the romantic portrayal of their own middle ages, and their lords and princess and dukes and queen, tended to scoff and mock feudal societies much like their own.

    • @tylerrobbins8311
      @tylerrobbins8311 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@Tareltonlives I would say they fought more like the Macedonians just without calvary

    • @AfricanMaverick
      @AfricanMaverick Před 7 měsíci +1

      Well that's European logic for you

  • @jjw56
    @jjw56 Před 7 měsíci

    It is an antiquated trope, but I thought it was ‘spear chucka’

  • @lollolowski8956
    @lollolowski8956 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Europeans used spears just earlier back in history. And also romans colonized britain in same way coz they were barbarians then. The irony of kipling saying brits are superior shows blindness to history.

  • @Existentialkev
    @Existentialkev Před 7 měsíci +1

    **Chucker**

  • @complexblackness
    @complexblackness Před 7 měsíci +9

    CHUCKER not chugger.

  • @wassupg
    @wassupg Před 7 měsíci +2

    Content creators have to be careful with USE OF WORDS bcuz CZcams GUIDELINES will deem it racial, threatening etc., 😒 and will not ALLOW video to upload…🤷🏾‍♀️

  • @mrprince5934
    @mrprince5934 Před 7 měsíci +4

    spear chugger 😂😂

  • @bcvbard
    @bcvbard Před 7 měsíci

    I heard your voice on another channel. I am thinking it was AI.

  • @tylerrobbins8311
    @tylerrobbins8311 Před 7 měsíci +4

    😂 wait spear chugger is an insult? 🤣🤣🤣 so like we just going to ignore every civilization used throwing spears. In fact spear hunting is still widely popular today despite guns.
    What kind of ignorant fool things throwing a spear is an insult?

  • @Gosia-qq1mh
    @Gosia-qq1mh Před 7 měsíci

    :)

  • @vr4892
    @vr4892 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Only one thing, Africa lost. So I guess their technology wasn’t as good

    • @darrenquiah9813
      @darrenquiah9813 Před 7 měsíci

      ,Thomas sowell the scholar explains it the best

  • @DavidShiluvane999
    @DavidShiluvane999 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Spear chugger💀

  • @allisonseamiller
    @allisonseamiller Před 7 měsíci +1

    Wait...chuGGer? With Gs? Not ChuCKer? As in chuck/throw? Chugger like...drink? I've never seen it written but...really?
    I Googled spear with "chugger" got 530 results and "chucker" got 25,100 results, so...I think it's the latter.
    The surprising part was chuGGer wasn't zero results. That's what we need a video on, how did this obscure eggcorn happen? Really, how? ChuCKer is racist, no question, but ChuGGer doesn't make sense grammatically, it's gibberish.

  • @soda8736
    @soda8736 Před 7 měsíci +2

    So where did the Europeans lie? Sub Saharan Africans used spears , Are Europeans supposed to know the whole diversity of Africa and teach it to the world when things were rareley documented before they and the Arabs started documenting them? I get the term can be used as a derogatory term, but that doesn't mean there is no truth to it and they may have interpreted as less than do to their weapons at the time. Ok. I dont understand why we think people hundreds of years ago would be P.C.

    • @cowel8734
      @cowel8734 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Yes. Was looking for a comment like what I was thinking

    • @anthonyyawtwumasimensah197
      @anthonyyawtwumasimensah197 Před 7 měsíci +8

      He said that there is truth in the statement but removes all nuance and is meant in a derogatory way.
      Other civilizations like Rome are praised for their skilled spearmanship but for Africans it is seen as a sign of our backwardness.
      This is isn't even a response to the video, it's an attempt to belittle the concerns he brought up.

    • @soda8736
      @soda8736 Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@anthonyyawtwumasimensah197 some people like feel food history and some can deal with harsh facts, yes Romans had spears but they also built the Colliseum amost other great technology and architecture advancements. Its no diss to say sub saharan Africans weren't as advanced. Most people in the world weren't . The problem is afrocentrics are steadily trying to compare their accomplishments to Europe instead being proud of their accomplishments. Are native Australians trying to say they built pyramids are the people of the Oceania competiting with Europeans. No. They are content and i understand early eurocentric views may have called this paranoia, but that doesn't mean afrocentrics can just make stuff up..

    • @elo6550
      @elo6550 Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@anthonyyawtwumasimensah197I don't know, is it due to the fact that at the time the colonization of Africa began, the standards of warfare had changed due to the appearance of firearms?

    • @itsbeyondme5560
      @itsbeyondme5560 Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@soda8736 most people in the world are.

  • @nassauguy48
    @nassauguy48 Před 7 měsíci +1

    The Black Africans were too busy educating the Greeks and others to be bothered with such barbaric practices. (And I am Greek).

    • @soda8736
      @soda8736 Před 7 měsíci

      So where is there hardly no architecture writing in sub saharan Africa, they talk the Greeks but didn't teach the rest of the continent?

  • @broq9194
    @broq9194 Před 7 měsíci +2

    The bullet is just a small metal "spear" being hurled by gun powder. I'm embarrassed at how stupid human beings can be when we simply fail to "think" before we formulate our beliefs.