BMW G310 R - No GoPros allowed during Test Ride. Are you to blame?
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- čas přidán 27. 08. 2024
- When I went over to BMW Tusker in Bangalore to take a test ride of the newly launched BMW G310R, I was told that GoPros were banned during the test ride. Apparently, BMW had a few unsavory incidents with people from the CZcams community who made misinformed reviews.
And to a large extent, I think they are right because I see so many people directly comparing the BMW twins with the Bajaj Dominar or the KTM Duke 390 without understanding that BMW is a luxury auto brand.
Well - so go on, listen to my rant and my first impressions from having ridden both the BMW G310R and the BMW G310GS.
It's not just about comparing with other bikes. It's just that they've priced it like this only here. They've priced it lower than the Duke in UK. So they want to be premium bike only in India whereas they've priced it as a budget bike in Uk. That's why i think no one should buy that.
Dude, you're missing two rearview mirrors. #1 indicator of a squid.
You got that right :) Also, my Rizoma mirrors got whacked.
The Savant Life Then better get 'em fixed before some vehicle whacks you from behind.
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@@famketheron7475 get the fuck out bitch
Here's an argument to tell that the G310R hasn't been priced properly here in India!! I've seen other videos where they've told that the G series bikes have been priced lower in other countries than India even when the bike is being manufactured in India!! Does that even make sense!!!!
Tejas B S hypocrisy
Dude you forgot to understand one thing the Same KTM Duke 390 in US costs 100$ more or approximately same price as BMW. And why its only in INDIA its a premium brand and why not the same case in US (You understand it by seeing competitive price with KTM).
Note that all that the BMW 310 R bikes are shipped from INDIA and still they costly in INDIA because they cannot have bike at same price as TVS bikes. BMW is just making us pay more than what they truly deserve.
Ok but whatever I ll never pay 3.5 lakhs for a single cylinder naked bike with vibes... There is no luxury in it other than the brand logo.
Arivarasan Irulappan I agree. And the vibes start at 6k rpm, right?
FodderRev exactly
Disagree with your views & this go pro ban show that how insecure bmw is with their product
Raj Gajbhiye, exactly! And why the hell are they running from competition? Sure the brand is a premium brand BUT that doesn't mean you can just ignore your competitors! Duke 390 is a clear competitor, check international reviews please.
And savant my man, comparing Toyota corolla and a Mercedes Benz is definitely not right, but compare a Toyota land cruiser and a Mercedes SUV. That's how this BMW and ktm comparison. Call me a ktm fanboy idc. :)
John K Bijo 100%agree with you and if bmw believes that they are premium brand then they should not sell this bike at cheaper price than ktm duke 390 in other countries as well, the fact that they are selling this bike at cheaper than duke 390 in other markets take away its all premiumness for me in india
Agree with you as well. Both are similarly priced products in international markets, and I believe BMW could've priced it more aggressively here in India. And it looks like in most markets the BMW is actually priced lower than the KTM.
His point of brand value still stands though. While most of the money is for that BMW badge, I can see this will be an easy decision for the both sets of customers(the ones who want to buy it and the ones who'd look value for money). Give me similarly priced Sennheisers and Beats, it will be the former any day, for me.
Agree. And KTM is priced 200 to 300 USD more than BMW in the US market. And KTM and BMW both are considered premium. Just cuz of good built quality of plastics doesn't make the bike premium. Performance also should be premium. As per international reviews and few indian reviews KTM engine is punchier and more refined. BMW is just taking advantage of naive people
There are professional motoring journalists who come from Overdrive, Autocar and Top Gear and then there are these bunch of CZcamsrs who dump shit load of videos all over CZcams. Not particularly against savant life, he is pretty good and neutral about his reviews and so is Dino's Vault but now this shit is becoming too much. Just everyone with a phone camera is becoming a moto vlogger, taking bikes from showrooms and putting their own opinions. Very soon people will stop taking these vloggers seriously and just skip these videos.
Kawasaki ninja 300: 2.98 lacs, inline twin
G310r: 2.99 single cylinder
You decide
I really liked how you explained the thing about "premium" ... and to be honest I agree with you.
I know people have their perspectives, and I respect that too but to me yeah G310R 'IS' a premium product.
And also I've heard that it has a 10000km service interval, which indicates how good the build quality is.
With that kind of build quality I don't think we can really can expect it to be cheap.
Although it's my perspective.
Btw I really like your accent.
Nice job. ;)
I had been to the same showroom to test ride it too. For a website not CZcams. They were ready to give me a test ride but I had to wait until the customers finished with it first. I was completely okay with that and understood their reasoning. I was even allowed to shoot a walkaround inside the showroom. At the end of the day, customers get the first priority, people should understand that
Always a fan of your speaking skills, the way you deliver it... the script... Amazing!!
Thank god someone is talking sense and opening eyes of people.
Quality doesn’t come cheap.
And what's your reason for them being more expensive in India than in the USA even though it's effin made in India? Seriously not understanding. please help
John K Bijo They want it to cater to a specific demographic. They don't want it to turn into the next KTM
Amith Gowda , sure, but it still doesn't explain my point. Yamaha R3, ninja 300 isn't a common sight. It's priced pretty much the same as the beemer BUT they're giving you a sweet twin cylinder engine.
The BMW customers have to be the ultimate brainless fanboys if they're buying this 310R
John K Bijo I guess that's what you get with brand loyalists. It's not a bad bike. I have ridden it and it's very sweet. Super stable at triple digit speeds too. But it could do well with a lower price tag and or more features like a nav unit on the gs
Amith Gowda, yes..I didn't mean to say it's a bad bike... But the price tag😥😥
KTM is selling cheaper in India because they know Indian people.
Bro u really spit out the whole truth about CZcams comments in india by the way nice video keep it up
So now Honda should ban you from their showrooms, after ur x blade review, you are doing the same thing which you are accusing other youtubers of doing
Finally someone spoke my heart out! Every word you uttered there brother gained u my respect. I seriously hope some of those ‘youtubers’ check out ur entire video and get and realize ur message in here and finally the outer motor business world start respecting Indian motor world
Pratyay Nandy Thanks man - good to know there are sensible people out there!
They just consider us fools about Brand. Because people in India know very little about motor industry and whatever they hear or know, think that is the ultimate. Looking at Mini, many proudly say that it is made by copying Maruti Swift. So, try to see the thin line between the reality and fake. Or probably you know that. Just doing this for Click bait to create contradictory comments.
Class is just a figment of imagination, there is no reason that a substandard bike be priced higher than an already existing better engineered product, that too when the same product is priced lower than KTM sibling across the world, despite being produced here in India.
Build it- Ride it
Completely agree with u.
Just reminds me story of the "king new clothes" only to be reminded by a child that the king was naked.
Was actually happier when u rode fz..! 😘😘😍
I don't get why you are trying to justify their act in the first place. Is this some sort of return gift that you are giving for them allowing you to test ride the bike?
This is an arrogant brand and deserves no future in India. They also kicked out Rohan Albal of PowerDrift during the Auto Expo 2018. Sheer arrogance. Not sheer riding pleasure.
First, they make an underpowered bike which can't match up to the competition. It can't even hold its own versus the RR 310, forget the KTMs.
And then they go ahead and overprice it in the home market itself, even though it sells cheaper outside.
And then, they say wearing riding boots is compulsory for the test ride, as if they are giving us some 1000cc bike that will yank the life from us.
And now, they ban action cameras because people are spreading the word that the bike is no match for its competition and is just overpriced in the name of brand
BMW cars and Toyota Corolla or Cruze can't be compared because BMW cars provide a larger engine and much more features than the Corollas or Cruzes, and that's why they're pricier. I agree with the 'premium brand image' thing and no one expected the bikes to be priced as equal as a Dominar or the Apache 310RR. Even though, BMW is offering the same engine(just a bit retuned), and no extra fancy features which deserve a huge 3.5L price tag.
In the end, people with money who want a 'premium' single cylinder bike are gonna buy it.
From BMW perspective, if they would've priced the bikes starting from say 2.5L ex-showroom, people would've bought them on a large scale, cause, you know, a BMW in 3L. But then the bikes would be as common as the Dukes, losing their premium brand image. And in the industry, brand image is very much important.
This topic was well addressed, very well. Great job, man!! 😁
Yes you need to pay premium for "premium" brand when they offer "premium" product and there is nothing "premium" about the BMW twins apart from the brand.
Rajith Cherian or is it? Because international reviews all praise it for its build quality and no vibes while Indians ranting in CZcams comments all bitch about its pricing.
Yeah. Internationally the naked is priced at par or even below the 390. Build quality without tech does not warrant such a big premium. And yes India is a price sensitive market and people like me want the beat value for the money we spend.
Rajith Cherian bro, dominar is basically the same engine as your Duke 390, why are you paying a heavy premium then?
Rajith Cherian tbmw, mercedes and lambo to start throwing discounts on their cars so that Indians can afford it? Wtf. Bmw said they are not here for volume sales, they would like to keep their brand away from bad reputation like KTM brings upon itself.
Rajith Cherian yes who doesn't love value for money. But if the BMW was priced as low as the rest, then I'm sure we'd see the g310r literally everywhere just like the point made in the video about the Duke 200. And that is gonna destroy the BMW brand.
Stop saying premium and that brand tag BMW has come up with a punty 310cc engine only producing 33hp which is same as dominer or less than KTM 390 if BMW is so much concerned about premium they would have come up with bigger cc engine and pricing it competitively in India premium and brand tag is not restricted to finishing engin power matters a lot automotive industry
Your vlogging and description is good.., which is why I follow.. I'm sure you are a safe rider.. But the way you manoeuvre the bike in narrow roads, taking bike in wrong lane to overtake, driving very close to next vehicle on road is not impressive.. At least for me.. Scope is always there to improve.. Cheers.. :)
hey mahn great content.
Have been following your channel for a while and its just great.
I've watched your video on ns200 and wasnt that informative.
Would love if you could review the new ns200 abs.
😊
Savant life, I personally feel BMW should have stayed with their twin cylinder big bikes instead of producing single cylinder ones. I don't see anything wrong in comparing g310r with Duke 390. I am sure the old 390 can take on the g310r hands down and yes, the quality issues are a factor when it comes to these brands and BMW has an upper hand. But paying 4.2 lacs for a single cylinder produced in India, 300cc and has less features compared to its competitors? Idk man. If you are buying it for the brand BMW, it's fine. If you are looking for a good motorcycle that fits in your budget, trust me you have better options. And sorry to hear tusker motors didn't let you record the test ride. Shows how insecure they are with their product.
There were so many haters for bmw 310 twins. If you can't afford it then why talk shit about it. Plus looking from bmw point of view, it's their cheapest motorcycle on offer. A brand which used to sell motorcycles at 20+lakhs is now selling a motorcycle at 4lakhs. It's pretty reasonable.
Waiting for the 5 things you need to know about BMW GS310 video !
The bikes don't justify the price even with a luxury brand. Vibes, less equipment, frugal tank capacity, I mean are you joking!! They could have easily priced these machines properly.
Sir, you are saying everything sensible except taking the example of iphone for g310(s). Because Iphone is at par with tech, speed and experience. So, such price is fine for iphone. But talking about g310s, they have no much features to price highest in the segment. Now, talking about Brand value and blah blah non sense seem illogical. People loved BMW only because they have been making best in class, ultimate and unique machines in the market, in every aspect. However, this time also they made a different and good vehicles and there is NO denial to that. But not even close to best in segment, to price the highest in the segment. I know that you will say Versys is the priciest of all. But that price is only because of non-localisation and pack of accessories.
Anyways, I think BMW is trying to save business because they know that the bike is not worth that premium price. And they do not want brand specific buyers to know about that. And FYI, they never said NO to any such Go Pro test rides in Western countries because there they have a reason for putting the price (non-localisation). Here they simply want to cash the brand sentiment of buyers with that price for such mediocre motorcycle.
Anyways, you sounded offensive to people who use the term "BRO" in their comment.
And the video in autoplay next is NOT SATISFIED WITH TEST RIDE G310 GS. lol.
Also I think you forgot to inform your viewers that the service interval for the BMWs are 10k kms/1year.
Arjun Sheka yea its msk's video lol 🤣
Same for me too.
Absolutely love your English. this is main reason I subscribe to your channel.... but hey you made me a bike lover too
I know its unfair to compare this bike with himalayan.
But for people out there i m asking
How much this bike GS is good or bad as compared to himalayan?
Well I didn't say it you did - "iPhone snob". I have heard that BMW is less reliable. Plus KTM 390 is aggressive as hell and can't be compared against this BMW.
camera angle needs adjustment buddy, and BTW nice view about the controversial topic
Everyone is different and everyone has got the freedom to speak about negative or positive Parts of anything .If you don't want a Xiaomi guy to come inside the iStore then the apple should be selling their product on the basis of the phone a guy is having right now .such a nonsense. Marketing should be done on the basis of quality and practicality of the product ,not only on the basis of representative of the product.Quality speaks itself ,no matter what people say.Stand by it .
Strell was the last one to test it in Bangalore with a GoPro.
The g310r is a pure test of darwinism
Sab man ka vaham hai bhai ! Company ese hi 'premium' bolkar chutiya banati hai.
The Savant Life Hey bro, I wanna ask if you want to upgrade your bike, which bike will you choose? BTW love your videos
I actually don't know man - it could be the BMW G310R or the Duke390 or maybe a complete dark horse. It's up in the air :)
The Savant Life
Let me guess,
KTM Adventure 390
Where are the mirrors bruh!
STRELL is the fella you are talking about......
bruh can u do another elabrated video on the new yamaha r15.
Review on cbr 250r repsol edition
so many wolves commenting "Grapes are sour"😂
Pulsar 180 2018's review please
These guyz In the comment section feel that they r pretty cool by commenting all hate Nd shit like one the guyz below says that having no rear view mirror makes u a squid
All that these ppl need is some entertainment in their lives cuz I think their gf isn’t giving them any action. I really like the way u have responded to the haters by just liking their comments.
But still I personally feel not alowing ppl to use their gopros shows a bit of insecurity but then its completely up to the company to let u do that. So I think these guyz would like it if the company denied them the test ride itself.
Bang on with your observations. More than the company, I think it's the guys managing the showroom that might be a bit insecure as they need to answer to their higher ups.
The Savant Life ya the thing is ppl need to understand that this bike comes under the luxury class Nd they r aiming only for a certain class of people Nd not everyone
Pulsar 220 ride review plzz
but JS films did!
I like your videos too much.... But dz one😑😑I don't even want to say anything about it all other comments are enough.....😑😑😑😑😑it's fun to see what new bikes manufacturer offering us in their bikes.....
Bikes should be good in all aspects not only in terms of build quality and brand name😑😑😑😑😑😑😑
good that they banned it.. nowdays i see every tom dick and harry giving first ride expressions. I hope how the Auto-Journalists look at it.
They should also ban people making work around videos.
Famous motovloggers never did such things untill they were invited and ride newly launched bikes.
People are making suvh videos to get more views as the content is the new bike and not tje person. Very few people have enough knowledge and experience to ride and reivew the bikes.
If u guys are wondering the YT reviewer responsible , its Strell.
anifz16 oh shit yea, he stopped both the motorcycles on the road.
But he did not talk shit about the bike.
I don't think its Strell
I saw his review and I didn't saw him talking trash about the bike.Infact he just reviewed in a matured and professional manner as far as I could see.
strell reviewed it with maturity. He was not ranting about bikes.
Wtf there are many CZcamsr , and they already have reviewed while on go pro and you know them
Bullshit, you should learn what premium means. It doesn't mean premium price. The product should be better than the competition.
apache rtr 180 review
Over hyped and priced..
Really well though video. Massive respect from my side. Yes we still are not ready to accept Premium products in INDIA.
The BMW G310 is a great naked streetfrighter for the gentleman or for someone who's looking for something a little more conservative. That's always been the case with BMW Motorrad's design ethos since the 90's. I wish they could have carried over the asymmetrical design from some of its bigger siblings like the F800 R from 09'. Is the premium pricing for the exclusivity?? I don't know. Great effort from BMW Motorrad.
Very valid points and yes, I do think the premium pricing is to ensure exclusivity.
Even I was dreaming abt those asymmetrical headlamps haha
Those asymmetric headlights are the least BMW could have done to actually justify the price tag.
The Savant Life You are right about the premium pricing and exclusivity. However, informed motorcyclists tend to see past brand logos. BMW bikes are not the most reliable on the international market or even the easiest to deal with when it comes to claiming warranty.
Totally agree!! BMW's in the past had a shaft drive and the exhaust unit aswell was on the left side. Don't know why they went down the conventional route. Some USP was expected from BMW to make it stand out. It would have been a segment first in a small capacity bike and certainly would have justified the higher asking price.
Yo Yo here's a new video 😂🔥
Lifestyle products just saying that makes me wanna puke 🤮🤮 more like worst vfm like apple
ya ur ri8 bmw is bmw
KTM RC 390 has better reputation than this overpriced single cylinder BMW atleast in global market....
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Totally disagree.. You should be even pissed off that they didn't gave you a test ride with gopro ...... And FYI chevrolet and Toyota are better than those Germans.. In foreign market too.. And if you are so much in love with BMW(showing so much sympathy) get rid of that reliable and trusty fz and buy a g310r shit.. Oh yes I forgot how badly you criticised x blade..
I think im the first one..