Bach Strad Trumpet 37 vs 43 Comparison

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  • čas přidán 25. 08. 2024
  • In this video we check out the difference between the Bach Strad 180ML in 37 bell vs 43 bell configuration. Players will have their own feelings on this but we discuss and demonstrate our thoughts with top UK pro player Georgina Jackson.
    Bach 37: www.dawkes.co....
    Bach 43: www.dawkes.co....
    Georgina Jackson is a professional Trumpet player and singer. Working for years with many famous faces, such as Frank Sinatra Junior, Nancy Sinatra and Seal and touring Big Bands in Concert Halls, television and radio, Georgina learned her trade as a lead trumpet player. She has even performed at the Proms in London both singing and playing!

Komentáře • 71

  • @minnesotarailfan12
    @minnesotarailfan12 Před 4 lety +29

    I got a used 43 that has been in the family for years for free. Best thing ever

    • @ricaard
      @ricaard Před 7 měsíci

      Free is always great!

  • @jobutl
    @jobutl Před 4 lety +34

    My parents bought me a 37 back in 1980 for $463.50 ( I still have the receipt ). Amazing trumpet that I still play.

    • @muserfreakshow2171
      @muserfreakshow2171 Před 4 lety +1

      funknfritter I got mine for 534$

    • @ephraimpinckney8209
      @ephraimpinckney8209 Před 3 lety +1

      Damn, me thinking I got a steal for $1,250 back in 02.🙄

    • @allenklingsporn6993
      @allenklingsporn6993 Před 3 lety +2

      @@ephraimpinckney8209 $375 in 1985 is around $950 today, due to inflation. You're purchase price wasn't far off.

    • @michaeltroster9059
      @michaeltroster9059 Před 2 lety +1

      When I returned to trumpet playing in 1980 I purchased a model 37 and although I now own 6 b flat horns I still favour the Bach horn over others

    • @65strad
      @65strad Před rokem

      My father got me my new 43 Strad in 1972 for about $350.

  • @music-collective
    @music-collective Před 3 lety +14

    Georgina is a wonderful trumpet player. I love the presentation. I like both trumpets for very different recordings ... both are world class trumpets...

  • @francescomaimone8865
    @francescomaimone8865 Před 4 lety +19

    She sounds great. I have a big sound, and found that the 43 has that extra sizzle that she describes. I felt like the 37 was a little constraining of my sound.

    • @adamh951
      @adamh951 Před 4 lety +3

      I have a huge sound as well but I sounded more rich and thick on a 37 than a 43

    • @TheMenace722
      @TheMenace722 Před 4 lety

      If you want a bolder sound, you go for the 43, if you want a more lighter sound, you for the 37

    • @erikg2515
      @erikg2515 Před rokem

      I had a 37 and it was a bit stuffy I now own the 43 it plays and sounds wonderful especially in the higher register.

    • @IndianOutlaw1870
      @IndianOutlaw1870 Před 3 měsíci

      The 37 sounds better in the midrange, but the 43 sounds better, and plays easier, above the staff. The 43 bell has a larger throat.

  • @HazenLewis
    @HazenLewis Před 4 lety +4

    Such a helpful vid. I’ll be shopping for a 43!

  • @ericturner2477
    @ericturner2477 Před 10 měsíci +2

    I owned a silver plated Bach Strad 37* in high school, then sold it a couple years after graduation because I needed to pay rent. I didn't play a note on a trumpet for over 30 years. Recently I bought a used silver plated Bach Strad 43 to play around on. I probably wasn't a good enough player back in high school to tell the difference between a 37 and a 43, and certainly now I wouldn't be able to. I wish I had my original trumpet from HS (serial number 81239... please sell it to me if you have it!), but I'm glad to be playing again (albeit very poorly!)

  • @tedjohnson9329
    @tedjohnson9329 Před 3 lety +6

    I've always liked Bach trumpets and cornets. A year ago, I bought a Bach LR180S37, and its sound is the best I've ever got from a trumpet. I also have a CONN 52BSP and it's a terrific trumpet in its own right. I've been playing since 1953 and and I consider myself an OK player, not super talented, but I still love practicing every day.

  • @trumpetandsaxophone
    @trumpetandsaxophone Před 4 lety +2

    I play a 37G London, love the reversed lead pipe and 37 bell, it's a great horn and works well for all sorts of different types of music

  • @pauldavies9360
    @pauldavies9360 Před 2 lety +5

    Both sound gorgeous but I'd go for the 43

  • @mikestang679
    @mikestang679 Před 3 lety +4

    Both are great pro horns, period!

  • @feztoys
    @feztoys Před 3 lety +6

    That 43 sound 😍😍 sounded darker and richer. Good for mariachi. I have to listen to a 73 now. When I was in band my band director told me I had a dark round sound. If only I knew about this info and had a 43 to sound even better. I won two jazz awards with a bach 37 stradivarius that my teacher would let me borrow

  • @jwalker7277
    @jwalker7277 Před 2 lety +1

    I had 37 most of my life i now have a 72 but i must try a 43 it sounds so lively.

  • @JazzBear
    @JazzBear Před 3 lety +4

    I definitely prefer the 43. It’s just a more appealing tone to my ear.

  • @pitgroove.37_66
    @pitgroove.37_66 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Yeah, the 43 definitely sounds crispier and brighter than the 37 from what I'm hearing

  • @ldcuba
    @ldcuba Před 4 lety +1

    i love my 43. remember going in high school to our local dealer and trying out many trumpets. loved the sound from the 43 over the others they had in stock. recently looked at how much the cost has changed and more than doubled new from 19 years ago!

  • @kennigrimmelmann4364
    @kennigrimmelmann4364 Před 4 lety +3

    ML bell 37 silver Has a very very nice good big fat tone.

  • @brucekendall52
    @brucekendall52 Před 4 lety +1

    Love the video,thks.

  • @musicalaviator
    @musicalaviator Před rokem +2

    Got myself a 37 in my last year at High school. Was fine.
    Then one day I tried an old 72. Oh My God. What a sound.

    • @IndianOutlaw1870
      @IndianOutlaw1870 Před rokem

      Yeah, I have Manchester Brass RL-GB with a big 72-ish bell. What a sound. But I find that it needs a mouthpiece with a tighter-than-average backbore, to add some resistance.

  • @m.j.mcilroy5470
    @m.j.mcilroy5470 Před 4 lety +5

    Georgina is a brilliant trumpet player,great singer, and a very good looking lady-the whole package!

  • @IndianOutlaw1870
    @IndianOutlaw1870 Před rokem +1

    The 37 has more core, the 43 ... more sizzle. The 43 tends to be a bit more open (less stuffy).

  • @jean-pierredevent970
    @jean-pierredevent970 Před rokem

    The 43 sounds for me more open, warmer and the 37 sounds a bit constricted in comparison. However the 37 might cut through better in certain conditions. I never played a Bach but sitting next to one, I always thought it had more core and projected better and this was frustrating since I felt overpowered. I played a Yamaha with a Bach 1.5C mpc.
    I am curious which harmonics/frequencies are most responsible for carrying power.

  • @danyimarton9712
    @danyimarton9712 Před rokem +1

    I think the best piston is Bach Stradivarius model 72L. I have this horn and is just wow...

    • @charleshinton9665
      @charleshinton9665 Před měsícem

      I generally play a Bach 72 lightweight, with a 43 lead pipe for chamber music or orchestral gigs. However, I play a 72 lightweight large bore, with heavy valve caps for my rock needs. That beast can really sing! That's just what fits for me.

  • @ronaldinnewmexico1912
    @ronaldinnewmexico1912 Před 2 lety +2

    The reversed leadpipe model (not shown here) opens up the 37 a bit and makes it even more versatile.

    • @dawkesmusic
      @dawkesmusic  Před 2 lety

      Out of interest we did a separate video about the reversed lead pipe vs standard models here: czcams.com/video/lqluoGKeLfc/video.html Thanks for checking out our channel.

  • @JohannesBecker2123
    @JohannesBecker2123 Před 4 lety +1

    Hi, what kind of clip mic did you use in the video?

  • @RW-ob4en
    @RW-ob4en Před 8 měsíci

    Top line F on my 43 feels like it blows back a bit, even thins out somewhat. (Mthpc Bach 3)

  • @daltonwalker734
    @daltonwalker734 Před 4 lety +2

    Damn shes good

  • @dellanno31
    @dellanno31 Před 2 lety

    Thanks, wish I sounded that good.

  • @user-bm6kh4ow1x
    @user-bm6kh4ow1x Před 4 lety +11

    43 has more clear& open sound, 37 feels thighten and stuffy

    • @tedjohnson9329
      @tedjohnson9329 Před 3 lety +2

      I have a LR180S 37 bell. I can get a variety of very bright sounds depending on the mouthpiece I use. You can either play softly in a brass choir or peel the paint off the walls in a jazz setting. I prefer he Bach Mega tone 1D mouthpiece.

  • @franciscoflores1305
    @franciscoflores1305 Před 2 lety +2

    I played the 72 for 20 years, then I got the 37 and feels easier and brighter sound, I don’t know may be each mouth is different

    • @musicalaviator
      @musicalaviator Před 2 lety

      Weird. I use a 37, have since 1998. Tried a 72 last month for the first time, found the sound bigger, darker. Less sizzle, more smooth core in the sound. Felt like I could make the same tone at pp as ff. Liked it on my bach 2 and 1x mouthpieces.

  • @ROBERTF177
    @ROBERTF177 Před 4 lety +3

    Love your tone and energy. May I ask what mouthpiece you were using. Your sound has a nice sparkle and is similar to the sound I strive for. Thanks

    • @dawkesmusic
      @dawkesmusic  Před 4 lety +1

      Hi Robert - We're not sure which mouthpiece Georgie was using but will try and find out for you...

    • @canwaand
      @canwaand Před 4 lety +1

      @@dawkesmusic looks like a marcinkiewicz proline blank

    • @misssnowstorm
      @misssnowstorm Před 4 lety +5

      Hi! Sorry just seen this....I’m using a Marcinkiewicz concert series equivalent to a Bobby shew 1.25. I think they are still making them!

    • @IndianOutlaw1870
      @IndianOutlaw1870 Před rokem

      @@misssnowstorm Very cool. I play a Marcinkiewicz Shew 1.5. Love it.

  • @sylvesteravinante07
    @sylvesteravinante07 Před rokem

    190 43, review pls…

  • @fredrikoscar4741
    @fredrikoscar4741 Před 11 měsíci

    They both sound good. They both have a G that is just a bit too high. Expected.

  • @carlmeyer6840
    @carlmeyer6840 Před rokem

    I have a 43 in mint condition looking to sell. What is a realistic price to ask??

    • @dawkesmusic
      @dawkesmusic  Před rokem

      It does depend a lot on condition but somewhere between £1,500-£,2000 is about the private market value.

  • @ChrisDavisTrumpet
    @ChrisDavisTrumpet Před 4 lety +5

    43 ALL DAY

  • @avrstrt
    @avrstrt Před 3 lety

    What type of mouth piece are you using?

  • @gustavomartinezc.1789
    @gustavomartinezc.1789 Před 5 lety +4

    37 👍✨🎺

  • @MultiTrumpetman
    @MultiTrumpetman Před rokem

    43 definetly

  • @mariachinewjerseysuarez9062

    The best 37 ......

  • @BrassBoy-ot4sy
    @BrassBoy-ot4sy Před 4 lety +1

    The 37 sounds clearer and brighter. But both are nice.

    • @thomassicard3733
      @thomassicard3733 Před 2 lety

      I agree. More consistency in sound throughout range. Seems to sound more precise and manageable.

  • @eldanny81
    @eldanny81 Před rokem

    37 04:11 43 03:51 BBC

  • @music130man
    @music130man Před 4 lety +6

    37 sounds richer.

  • @antonioocegueda3339
    @antonioocegueda3339 Před rokem

    I have 43 good trumpet 🎺💵

  • @paulgrimm
    @paulgrimm Před 2 lety

    I have a 37. I’d rather have a light 43. My 19037 is too stuffy!

  • @joeluis2455
    @joeluis2455 Před 3 lety +4

    37 sounded better playing over the rainbow

  • @valerymedvedev5806
    @valerymedvedev5806 Před rokem

    Bach 43 richer!