Bach Stradivarius 37 versus Yamaha Xeno 9335NY

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  • čas přidán 12. 09. 2024
  • I recently purchased this Yamaha 9335 to go alongside my primary Bach 37. These Yamaha artist models are often referred to as "the best Bach you can buy," and I would say that's a pretty accurate assessment! In this video, I play a few passages back-to-back on both horns and then share some of my observations after some time with them.

Komentáře • 47

  • @arts4691
    @arts4691 Před rokem +6

    Thank You very much for this excellent comparison. It is one of the very very few that are effective. You make it easy to REMEMBER the sound of the 1st trumpet because you cut the 2 nd example very close. Many other comparisons cut only after too much time, so the comparison is much more difficult. For me the winner is the 37.

  • @richardramirez377
    @richardramirez377 Před rokem +6

    I'll play my Bach Stradivarius 37 over my Yamaha ALL the time. Been using it for 50+ years. Can't beat the sweeter and more fuller sound of my Bach.🎺

  • @JMcKey21
    @JMcKey21 Před rokem +5

    You've had a lot of great comments already. But just to give my two cents which I hope are worth as much. I played a Bach 37 for quite a while. I was fortunate enough to be involved in the national guard with which my trumpet mentor played. They were deciding which new trumpets to buy for the band. It's all to say, I spent quite a bit of time with Yamaha new york models and chicago models. The Yamaha's were consistent and dead-centered. I mean, incredibly well centered in their tone. They really instilled a sense of confidence. Ultimately, though, they lacked something. There was something about my Bach that was almost unforgiving. If I had a bad day, it bit me back. But when I got it just right, damn did it sound sweet. Had a personality of sorts I guess.

    • @richardbrotzman3152
      @richardbrotzman3152 Před rokem +1

      Funny you should end your comment with the statement that the Bach had a personality. Most of my playing has been on Bach Strads (a Mt. Vernon Model 37 and '75 Model 43 lightweight) , and when I had the chance to play a friend's Yamaha Xeno several years ago, my reaction was that it was a nice horn, but the exact same thought came to my mind. I told my friend that the Xeno was nice, but it just seemed to me to lack personality.

  • @rileybaischtpt
    @rileybaischtpt Před 3 měsíci

    This is an excellent comparison video! About a year ago I played a Gen3 NY against a modern 180s37 and my observations were identical to yours.

  • @SuperLber
    @SuperLber Před rokem +2

    I have a 6310z and I love it, centered and mellow with the right mouthpiece.

  • @KristerLindblad
    @KristerLindblad Před rokem +4

    Interesting video to watch. Thanks for posting it! I also have an old Bach 37 and a Yamaha 9335NY, and I agree with your findings. I have actually had two 9335NY's. My current one is the latest generation, and the previous one was older. I also find the Yamaha to be extremely even and more in tune with it self, just as you say. My Bach on the other hand has an extra dimension to the sound somehow. I like both of them, They are good, but a bit different

    • @wckoek
      @wckoek Před 5 měsíci

      Would you say the Gen 2 version of 9335NY better than the original one?
      Only tried a 8310ZII and find it to be more responsive but brighter than gen 1.

    • @MultiTrumpetman
      @MultiTrumpetman Před 23 minutami

      9335 NY 05 is scarrrry good instrument and first trumpet I feel like part of me. Really reallly good.
      I jist ordered 8335 S. It is very very simmilar to 9 series.

  • @improvisedlines5498
    @improvisedlines5498 Před rokem +3

    im a bach guy. i have played on good yamahas, but theyre few and far between for me. itms just hard to find one that doesnt feel like it’s fighting back. every bach i have played has just let my air flow right on through. the artisan was probably the “stuffiest” but it didnt feel like it was fighting with me. just heavier than im used to.

  • @toolmanboston
    @toolmanboston Před rokem +4

    I played a Bach 72 through college and for many years after in concert bands and pro big bands. I switched to a Yamaha 8335 Xeno about 10 years ago and LOVE it...I've had other horns and the Yamaha is just such a great horn to play. I think you sound VERY similar on both horns. Perhaps hard to pickup the differences on your mic. I think you are just used to your Bach 37 and will take some time to adjust to the Yamaha. I think you cannot go wrong either way :)

    • @JMcKey21
      @JMcKey21 Před rokem

      Great advice. It's also really important to hear a horn from far away and have a friend listen. Projection is important as well.

  • @cmorales5
    @cmorales5 Před 7 měsíci

    I had Stradivarius and that sound stays in the mind. Maybe I am biased but the Bach sound isn’t a myth. In this video it was evident from the very first comparison that the Bach has something else in the sound that no Yamaha will ever produce. Thanks for the video!

  • @brassinstructor8196
    @brassinstructor8196 Před rokem +4

    Maybe it’s because you’re more familiar on the Bach, but your tuning and center of the core sound is much better when you are playing the Bach. A different mouthpiece might balance the Yamaha better for you.

  • @rayh1009
    @rayh1009 Před 7 měsíci

    Agree the Bach sounds a bit brighter, however, when I looked away from the video, it was very difficult to tell which horn was being played. This confirms to me that the particular sound depends on the player, then the mouthpiece, and well after that- whatever differences there are between 2 versatile comparable professional level horns. Acoustics of the room plays into it as well, as does the microphone. In the end, the differences in sound between the horns is likely more important to the player than it is to the audience.

  • @dmitryd9013
    @dmitryd9013 Před rokem +1

    To me these both looks like fantastic trumpets from the future. I'm playing Yamaha 2020 and my kinda musical dream is to try something like Yamaha 5ths or 6ths. Really want to compare the one I'm playing now and a more or less professional one. Just to compare cuz I completely understand that they all are just pieces of pipe and to play any piece of pipe all you need coordination of all the things that are involved, air, tongue and all of that

  • @teresamessenger5399
    @teresamessenger5399 Před rokem +1

    Lovely. Love them both. You are fantastic and could make music from a cardboard out of a roll of paper towels

  • @donizettijoseamorim8968
    @donizettijoseamorim8968 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Eu tenho um jupter, e gosto muito do som que consigo tocando e um professor que tem um vincent , gosta do dom do meu trompete.

  • @007slaney
    @007slaney Před rokem +2

    Love my Bach 37❤

  • @da11king
    @da11king Před 10 měsíci +1

    I also noticed the veins popping out on your forehead from time to time 😊

  • @MultiTrumpetman
    @MultiTrumpetman Před rokem +9

    Sound of 37 is much better

  • @trompetauniversal6485
    @trompetauniversal6485 Před rokem +2

    Encuentro el sonido de Bach mas cálido y afinado

  • @user-ed4jb3in8p
    @user-ed4jb3in8p Před rokem +2

    Хорошие трубы и звучат примерно одинаково. Спасибо.

  • @chuckbeers2540
    @chuckbeers2540 Před rokem +4

    Yamaha sounds good but also thinner compared to bach. I would choose bach because of the fuller sound on notes. I'm not even a Bach kind of player. Sorry to differ.

  • @us-Bahn
    @us-Bahn Před rokem +2

    On this side of the bell I can’t tell the difference at all.

  • @elidewine9067
    @elidewine9067 Před rokem +3

    Bach

  • @trumpetrumept
    @trumpetrumept Před rokem +5

    Sound of 9335 is much better

  • @user-kb5so1lz1g
    @user-kb5so1lz1g Před rokem +2

    only Bach!

  • @roboliver8789
    @roboliver8789 Před rokem +1

    RIP ROY HARGROVE

  • @Patrick-sb2sb
    @Patrick-sb2sb Před rokem +1

    Would you know how to compare a French Selmer to these two horns??

    • @jeffreypinskersmith
      @jeffreypinskersmith  Před rokem +1

      I've played a few Selmer K-Modified trumpets (both regular and light-weight), and I also own a Selmer Chorus 80J, which has been my horn of choice recently. All of the Selmer trumpets I've played have had a nice complexity to the sound, and a certain shimmery quality. The 80J is more "freeblowing" than either the Bach or the Yamaha, but doesn't feel too big. The K-Modified feels very compact (in a good way) and is more nimble to play than either the Bach or Yamaha. All of the Selmer trumpets have had great valves, too. The K-Modified I've played don't project as well as a Bach or Yamaha or my more modern Selmer 80J, so they aren't as useful on a stage, but are really fun for jazz combo playing or things like Charlier etudes. Hope this is useful!

  • @LattetheLarry
    @LattetheLarry Před rokem +3

    All Yamahas sound the same because they are made by machine, bachs however are made by hand and all have different sounds

    • @alanartz
      @alanartz Před 9 měsíci +2

      Yamaha xenos are handmade

  • @Cg41418
    @Cg41418 Před rokem +3

    Yamaha has sharper crisp tone….Bach is heavier, more mellow tone. Prefer older Benge over both.

    • @dmitryd9013
      @dmitryd9013 Před rokem +1

      Does any company still makes Benge trumpets? thought this brand is in the past forever. If some company makes new models, Benge is definatelly the best one to buy. I've heard Benge is all about open sound and stuff which is priority num one to me

    • @KleberebelK18
      @KleberebelK18 Před rokem

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  • @trumpettradesman
    @trumpettradesman Před 4 měsíci

    37 all the way

  • @GinoCerutti-z5f
    @GinoCerutti-z5f Před 6 měsíci +1

    Good ❤❤❤❤

  • @user-hr5uj1wq5q
    @user-hr5uj1wq5q Před rokem +1

    Mouthpiece?

  • @vitomolinaro1019
    @vitomolinaro1019 Před rokem

    Non sono confrontabili. Sono 2 trombe diverse tra loro

  • @프로페서줌
    @프로페서줌 Před rokem +1

    the yamaha sounds more good

  • @johnwyper9470
    @johnwyper9470 Před rokem +3

    Bach

  • @lucapascolat2992
    @lucapascolat2992 Před 6 měsíci

    Bach