TRUMPET COMPARISON Pt. I - Testing 52 Trumpets!
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In January 2019, I set out to find a new trumpet. I was looking for something with a big/warm/dark sound for jazz solo playing. Here are some highlights from my extensive search - JB
Watch my "TRUMPET COMPARISON PT. II" video here:
• TRUMPET COMPARISON Pt....
TIME INDEX
00:21 - Introduction
01:31 - Lotus (Universal model)
01:39 - Lotus (Solo model)
01:46 - Yamaha (YTR-8345RG 02)
01:59 - Bach (Model 25)
02:12 - Schilke (S42)
02:20 - Schilke (S22HD)
02:35 - Schilke (S32HD)
02:44 - Schilke (SB4-MG)
02:56 - Kühnl & Hoyer (??)
03:06 - Yamaha (YTR-8310Z 03: "Bobby Shew" model)
03:16 - Schagerl (JM1: "James Morrison")
03:22 - Yamaha (YTR-8340EM2: "Eric Miyashiro" model)
03:27 - Yamaha (YTR-8335 GH: "Tomonao Hara" model)
03:34 - Schagerl (Phelin "Vlado Kumpan" model)
03:40 - Yamaha (YTR-9335 CHS 02)
03:52 - Schilke (HC1-Lacquer)
04:08 - Schilke (HC1-Silver)
04:15 - Schilke (B1)
04:23 - Schilke (B2 B-Beryllium Bell)
04:38 - Schilke (B5)
04:57 - Schilke (B6)
05:06 - Schilke (B7)
05:18 - Schilke (S23HD)
05:32 - Schilke (S32HD)
05:49 - Schilke (X3)
06:02 - Bach (Artisan)
06:12 - Bach (190ML1B)
06:19 - S.E. Shires (CVLA-L)
06:27 - Monette (LT+)
06:54 - Adams (A1)
07:08 - Adams (A2)
07:20 - Adams (A3)
07:31 - Adams (A4)
07:46 - Adams (A4LT)
08:03 - Adams (A5)
08:15 - Adams (A6)
08:34 - Adams (A7)
08:48 - Adams (A8)
08:58 - Adams (A9)
09:04 - Adams (A10-Gold Lacquer)
09:14 - Adams (A10-Silver Plated)
09:24 - Adams (Austin Custom Brass "Coppernicus" model)
09:33 - Adams (A4 with Shepherd's Crook)
09:51 - Schagerl (Gansch Horn)
10:18 - Schilke (HC2-L)
10:40 - Adams (Custom A4 #1)
11:18 - Adams (5th Anniversary A4)
11:36 - Adams (Custom A4 #2)
12:05 - Adams (Hybrid A4)
12:28 - Adams (A10-Gold Brass Bell)
12:42 - Brainstorming Discussions
14:52 - My New Trumpet! (Custom A4 #3)
After 8 months of testing different trumpets with various size, material, finish, & feature combinations, I FINALLY received my new custom Adams trumpet!
An Adams A4 (Large Bore) with:
- .50 Gold Brass Bell (polished inside)
- Shepherd's Crook
- Brushed Lacquer Finish
- 2 Amado Water Valves
- Natural Abalone Inlays
I would like to thank everyone at Adams who helped with the production of this beautiful instrument, especially Hans Breuls and Miel Adams.
Intro/Outro Music:
"City Noir Reflections" by Joe Babiak
From Joe & Linda's album "Beyond The Places I Know" available exclusively at: joeandlindamusic.com/store/.
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Greetings! Be sure to check out my "TRUMPET COMPARISON PT. II" video here: czcams.com/video/SnusHl1pl6M/video.html.
- Also, the music used in the Intro/Outro of this video is an original song of mine called "City Noir Reflections," from Joe & Linda's debut album "Beyond The Places I Know" available exclusively at: joeandlindamusic.com/store/.
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Just watched this one again man. FANTASTIC video. This is a great resource for anyone looking at a new trumpet! Both a testament to you, the manufacturers.... and Apple iPhones!
welcome to the Adams family!!!! :)
Thanks.
Great video Joe. The Ganschhorn sounds pretty great! The A5, A9, Copernicus, and your custom were all outstanding. You are a lucky guy to play all those horns. I did find this video really helpful, so thanks.
Greetings David and thanks for your nice feedback! I'm so happy you found the video helpful. It was a busy year driving to all the different music stores here in Europe, but a necessary process to discover what I wanted/didn't want in a horn. I couldn't be happier with my custom Adams A4 :-) All the best! - JB
Thanks for documenting this. I’ve shared with a trumpet buddy. We love this kind of stuff!
Keep em comin’
Happy you enjoyed! All the best! :-)
Thank you for sharing all of this. It's so fascinating how all of the horns sound so different. I've played a ton of them myself, and I'm still hearing so many new sounds from different setups. It's so crazy how personalized a sound can be. From my headphones, which are just basic Sony over the ears that you get from Target for $10-20, I think the James Morrison sounded the most like I would want to sound, which is just a little more fullness and zip than my Bach 43. Really amazing video. Thank you again!
Thank you for your warm message.😊 I’m happy to know you enjoyed the video! All the best!🎺
Wow, so lucky to take your time and really try out all those horns. Such a dream!
😊
Love you bro, loving this video my man congratz! Surprised how much I loved that Shilke btw. Each one was consistently amazing.
🤘🏽🤘🏽
Great phat sound with all the core "thing" and expressive colorations. Impressive playing, sir!!!
Thanks man :-)
You made a great choice. You got the trumpet you love. I recently bought a new Bach Strad 37 Bell. Play it all day everyday. Love it!. Great video.
Thanks! Yes, it's SO important to feel inspired when you play your instrument. That then feeds your inspiration to play it more and more. Enjoy your new Bach! All the best :-)
Thanks so much for putting this comparison up. You were actually very influential in my decision to try out the Adams A4 Trumpet. I think when normal trumpet players those that are not superstars and don’t have a financial stake speak much louder than anyone else.
You're very welcome! Happy it helped you!
Thank you for your try out every trumpet!
Especially Adams A4 trumpet, that help me a lot.
Thanks again!
You are VERY welcome! I'm glad you enjoyed the video. All the best!
Thanks to you! I finally got my A4 custom from ACB in the US!
I'm very happy with the way my horn sounds, just like you played it!
The finish on the bell is very similar to yours. Thank you again!
I just want to say that.
Congratulations! I’m happy you love your horn as much as I love mine! All the best and enjoy!
What a great choice you made !! Wow! So happy for you, you absolutely deserves it!
Thanks so much! Appreciate your kind words!
This was so great--and what a horn; and...what a player. love this.
Thank you for your nice video!!! And your wife is super supportive and wonderful as well!!! What a beautiful team! Amazing!
You are welcome! Thank you!
Dang, that sounds good! You definitely made the right choice, man!
Excellent video to show that different trumpets sound different. I'm gonna buy a new one soon so this was really eye opening.
Glad you found it helpful! Best of luck choosing your new horn!
4:23 and 12:05 were the best to my ears. Effortless and clean in high and low registers with fuller dark bodied sounds. The first Bach out of the two in the late middle was third. You have a good feel for the horn too. As of 13-years ago, I can no longer play due to a facial paralysis thing; but my ears tell me you are an excellent trumpet player with feeling. Thanks for this video as I would have never had the opportunity to hear so many trumpets.
Thank you, and you are very welcome! All the best :-)
i needed it Thanks!
Very nice video Joe ! You owned yourself a sub !
Hello! Happy you enjoyed the video! All the best!
Very interesting videos and you are a very fine player. I enjoyed the two videos perhaps especially because I much preferred your sound on some of the other trumpets to the one you eventually chose. Very nice that your wife supports you in your quest and makes some very valuable contribution by some incisive comments to the process of trying them all out.
Thanks for watching!
I really loved the A2 at the NAMM show and couldn't put it down.! I could play in church, Big Band lead , section, brass ensemble work.
Great video Joe! You definitely chose the right trumpet. I also loved the warmth of the Shilke’s. Reminded me of a Christmas Broadway show like the nutcracker or something hahaha
Thanks buddy. The A4 was a good horn, really liked the sound, but the playability was tough. Sooo happy with the new horn, as you know 😉
Great choice! You got there. - and the A4 has a fabulous sound.
Thank you! Yea, I love the sound. Exactly what I was going for!
Joe thank you for sharing this journey with us. I was in Rotterdam last October, I didn’t know Adams was right there 1.5 hrs away!! Dang it! Anyway, I’ve tried Adams trumpets before and really liked them. I can see why you went with them for a darker sound and with Shepherd’s crook and lacquered bell...great choice. I also really liked the way you sounded on the Schilke S42, S32HD and S22HD!
Greetings Johnny and thanks for your nice message! I'm glad you enjoyed the video! Yea, Schilke's are very clean sounding, surprisingly dark, and very consistent from low to high range. But for me, Adams was the the way to go. Especially the A4 with there shepherd's crook. But the materials and sizes also made a noticeable difference. And finding the right combination of everything took some time, but it was well worth the wait! Next time you're over here, definitely stop by Adams. It's an amazing facility with an awesome staff! All the best! - JB
Right on. Great choice. I have one of the first Adams A4 shepherd's crooks and it is just as awesome now as it was 10 years ago when I bought it. I've never played another horn I like more.
Agreed! Best horn I’ve ever had. Love the sound and how free-blowing it is! Cheers!
I'm glad you like what you chose. Not my preference, but main thing is you're happy. It is a very beautiful customized trumpet.👍
Happy indeed! Thanks. And next time, I’ll be sure to order something you prefer 🤪
Love it, I’m going to have to do something like this around the US for an alto sax soon
Glad you enjoyed!
I like the Adams (A4LT) best. Beautiful warm yet penetrating tone.
HI Joe. Great adventure to search the world for your dream horn. Great sound! Be well, be safe. All the best!
Thank you kindly Paul! Hope you're well these days!
Great video....your choice sound much like a cornet...my favorite!! Bravo
Much thanks! I LOVE the warm dark sound of my custom Adams A4.
To hear a recent sample of my horn, check out this video: czcams.com/video/aGvBzLzdvsg/video.html
The Adams Hybrid has that old smokey jazz club sound. Wow
The hybrid was a nice horn, but not quite what I was looking for at that time.
Listen to your wife! 😃 That hybrid horn sounded great in you!
Thanks man. The hybrid had a nice sound, but at the end of the day, my custom A4 was exactly the sound I was going for. Cheers! / PS - Sweet home Chicago ;-)
Wow, this search took some patience. I think my faves were the A7 and Coppernicus. Thanks for sharing your research.
It was quite a lengthy process, but well worth it. Happy you enjoyed the video! All the best :-)
The Adams Hybrid, Coppernicus, and the Bach Artisan trumpets had the cleanest sounds in my opinion
Thanks.
This video was very helpful. I feel A4 with 45 A2 bell sounds best.
You're welcome. Glad you found it helpful. The Hybrid A4 was a nice horn, definitely a step in the right direction, but alas, not as dark as I wanted. Cheers.
Dear Joe,
I did like to watch your video about the search to a new Trumpet. I can see you have tried a lot of trumpets.
The Adams A4 is a very nice trumpet with a warm and dark sound. I think for jazz music this trumpet is very good, I hope you have a lot of fun and succes!
I bought a few years ago the Adams A4 LT, and I never regret it. The A4 plays LT plays very nice and has a warm and dark sound too.
Adams Music is a great company and very helpful.
Greetings
Greetings - Thanks for checking out the video. Both the Adams A4 & A4-LT are fine horns. Warm & Dark = exactly what I was going for. Adams is indeed a wonderful company consisting of wonderful people! All the best :-)
Great horn!!! You sound great on it. Welcome to the Adams Family.
Thanks much!
What did you think of the Shires trumpet? How did it compare to the Lotus trumpets? Thank you for this video! It's really awesome to hear all of these trumpets!
Your wife has a very good ear and gave you some very good feedback! Congrats on your new custom Adams - she's a beauty and sounds terrific!
Yes, I am grateful to have had her valuable feedback. Couldn't have done it without her. Much thanks!
Difference is only for player. I got 4 completely different horns. Recorded myself on same microphone setup, same room, same mouthpiece. Listened to it and all sounded same. When I've played them I heard diffence and had of course different feel of blowing, valve response. As I've said, on tape they all sounded same. That's why Clark Terry, Wynton, Randy, Lee, Miles, Maynard... you name them, they sound like themselves. Doesn't matter what horn. Like shoes. Some are more comfy than others. But we still need to walk.
Thanks for video.
I hear a noticeable difference (on this video) between many of the horns I tested. If you don't (as well as with your personal recordings), that's okay. That's the thing when it comes to personal opinions; there is no right or wrong. To each their own.
That A4 was the clear winner to my ears. Now I'm more sold than ever on adams
Greetings. At the time, the Adams was the winner. But since, it doesn’t even compare to my new horn (czcams.com/video/zG4XrM8PqOg/video.html). Check out klangwerkstatt-boehme.de/en/!
Sounds great
Much thanks!
Hi Joe,
I listened only to 5-minutes. I’m sensing you really wanted one of the Schilke’s to work for you. It sounded like the sound & resonance of the Schilke’s you played was trapped inside the instrument. The most open, warm and projected sound I heard you produce was from the Kühnl & Hoyer (which you only played for 3-seconds at 2:55!)
Greetings!
Initially, I liked the Schilke’s; they seemed to be very responsive horns and very even sounding from low to high. But the more horns I tested, the more the Schilkes fell into the background. I released a second comparison video in which I found my current horn (which blows all the others out of the water!). Check it out here: czcams.com/video/zG4XrM8PqOg/video.html
Enjoyed your ‘trumpet safari’! Sounded most comfy on Schilke S22HD + B7, Schagerl JM1 + Gansch Horn, ACB Coppernicus and and Adams A4. I am thankful to have a custom A4 LT-S (with Shepherds Crook), Red Brass bell in ML bore and think it is the best ‘fit’ for me out of all the horns I’ve ever played. I also has an A4 SC in L bore that I though was fantastic, but ultimately enjoyed the blow on the ML more. Stunning what Adams has done in the short time they have made trumpets. They are just fantastic! Enjoy every note!!
Hey Blaine, thanks for the message. I've written you before and appreciate the useful info you've shared in regards to your A4 LT. It took some time to research the right combination of features, but I can say without any doubt that this is the horn for me, and Adams made that possible. Cheers!
JOE BABIAK didn’t realize you were the same Joe and ‘Joe and Linda’! Glad you weren’t with .50 thickness and the SC. Just subscribed and look forward to checking out your posts!
Wow.,,, its like a trumpet that I also looking for. Thanks
You're welcome!
This was a fun and educational video. Joe's choice of the Adams A4 would have been my choice, as well, if I were in the market. I also liked the Schilke B7. My choice of mouth piece is a Bach 1D Megatone. I play a Bach LR180S37 and the Adams sounds a lot like my Bach, or, the other way around, if you prefer. In any case its was good to see so many models played.
Hello! So happy you enjoyed the video! I’m glad I documented the process so I could share with others 😊. My Adams A4 continues to blow my mind! All the best!
Really pretty amazing video. You definitely hit all the horns. Way to be patient
Thanks! It was totally worth the effort!
Yes, yes and Yes!
Great video, just what I hoped for! Are those Adam's trumpets cheaper in Europe? I love that custom A4 you bought, sounds beautiful!
Thanks! I can't really say how they compare to prices in other countries, but I can say that it's a wonderful company that will work with you closely to build the horn of your choice. All the best!
Hey Joe. Great video (and the second one too)…thanks. Can you recall your thoughts on the Kuhnl & Hoyer? Your demo sounded very centred and even across the range.
Greetings & thanks for writing.
If I remember correctly (it’s been a while) the K&H horn played well & had a bit of a darker sound, which I like. However, I didn’t play that model for long nor did I try other from the company…so something must not have grabbed me. That being said, I don’t recall anything negative about it either.
i liked also the Adams A4 and at the beginning the Lous solo
Best choice 's.i see.super ...
Wish there was a little more of you playing the Red Brass with Shepherds Crook. Did you just not like it right away? How much of a difference would you say the red brass makes versus the gold brass?
The red brass shepherds crook was the 2nd custom A4 they made me. Nice looking horn for sure, but the sound was too thin, bright, and scratchy/raspy sounding for my taste. It was pretty much the opposite of what I was going for. The gold brass however, was much more to my liking with a rounder and smoother sound. Plus, I find a noticeable difference when the inside of the bell is polished (which the red brass' bell was not). To my ears, the polished inner bell gives a nice glassy/buttery sound that I really like (as can be heard on my final A4). Thanks - JB
from a retired pro... I don't own an Adams, but I have played one. Adams makes great horns to suit everyone. I prefer the sound and feel of the A3, but I have yet to try the new 'balanced' model. Across brands, the differences in sound is very small. So to reach a decision, I would weigh many factors.
Hello Rob; it's always best to go and actually test horns in person. Depending on the size, weight, materials, etc, I found the sound differences between brands/models to be quite vast. I mean, a trumpet sounds like a trumpet (as opposed to an oboe). However, the nuances and sonic characteristics between trumpets can vary greatly (in my opinion/experience).
So much depending on the room .. and much more ... most important what you feel ...
Definitely important that a horn feels good to you, in addition to sounding good.
I was considering the Lotus trumpet and see you also tried 2 different Lotus models. Can you comment on the difference between the Lotus and A4?
To me, the Adams A4 was more free-blowing, warmer, and darker, which was exactly what I was looking for. Between the 2 Lotus models I tried, I did not hear/feel much of a difference. The A4 immediately spoke to me and I couldn't be happier!
Wondering what your thoughts were on the A9? Beyond comparing it to the Martin Committee, how it compared to the others? Seemed like you passed on it pretty quickly.
Greetings. It’s been a while...but I recall thinking that the A9 had a nice sound. It was one of the models that stood out to me early on after testing their whole selection. I don’t think it was a free-blowing horn...felt more resistance, but had a unique sound.
Wow ! Great tour thru Trumpets, but you make YOUR sound on all of them, which is nice to listen to nonetheless. Have you ever played Smith Watkins or Eclipse trumpets ??
Hello! I have not played Smith Watkins or Eclipse. You can check out my new horn here: czcams.com/video/zG4XrM8PqOg/video.html!
Because of this video I purchased an adams a4! ML bore .45 bell thickness. Now that you’ve had the horn for awhile, how do you like it? Is it very versatile?
Oh wow! That's great! Congrats! I've had the horn almost a year now and I love it more and more every day! Honestly! It does absolutely seem to be versatile (at least for my applications). Dark and warm, but brightens up nicely in the higher register with louder dynamics. Enjoy YOUR A4!
I‘m so much in love with the A4 LT. It has such a warm and beautiful sound. It‘s outstanding. I‘m looking forward to having my personal A4 LT built.
Btw: Do you have the sheet music of that solo you played on the A4 LT? It sounds nice. Otherwise I might just transcribe it if it‘s okay with you.
Agreed! My custom A4 is SO warm and dark sounding. What specs will you order for your A4 LT?
JOE BABIAK I don‘t know, yet. I know that I‘m going for an A4-LT. The problem is that I am still a student and have to go to school. So my possibilities of going to try out some different options are really limited. I will go to Leipzig next week as there is the closest dealer. Hopefully he can give me some advice. Then I‘ll be knowing more about the options I want to have.
@@trebledmusician - It's the just the classic jazz standard "Misty."
@@trebledmusician - Cool, good luck!
Currently looking to buy a A4 aswell. I am not in position to try one though. Im just in love with the looks and sound of that instrument!
I can personally say it's an AMAZING horn! I hope you can test one at some point. All the best!
To my ear, the horn you ended up going with had somewhat of a cornet character if that makes sense, which I like. I also really liked the dark sound of the A7, though you didn't spend much time on it, and the A9 sounded a little brighter that I expected, but I liked that as well as the various A10's.
Yea, my ear prefers a darker tone, which works well for me since I do more solo work rather than playing within a section. Cheers!
Hi. Thanks for the video. You sound great. I'm in hunt for Adam's A4 in particular. How much did it cost yours if you dont mind asking
Hello and thanks. Perhaps contact Adams directly and request their current pricing list. All the best with your search; the A4 is an outstanding horn!
JOE BABIAK Great Choice and support! You get to the best trumpet builder in the world,Mr Miel Adams!
Great video,thanks for sharing and wish you lot of fun with your new horn!
@@amikguerra293 - Greetings Amik, thanks for your message! And thank you for your efforts in designing the A4! Such a fantastic horn! - JB
Do you recall if the Adams A1 that you tried was the A1v2 or just the A1? Thanks and really enjoy your channel!
Greetings! I’m glad you enjoy the videos. I believe the A1 I played in this video was the first generation model. I have since played the 2nd gen and recall it being a nice horn. All the best!
Really useful demo tbh you can really see the range of colors of each horn. What mouthpiece do you play on rn it sounds like it’s really shallow
On contrary, they’re very big/deep mouthpieces. Refer to 0:16 in the video for the exact mouthpiece info. Thanks!
Valve inlays pronounced, " abalone-EE " - Native American word/name for the mollusc with the iridescent shell.
Nice horn! I really liked your sound on the Schilke HC-1 Laquer and the James Morrison model, too!
Watch out...pronunciation police on patrol 🚔 . But seriously, I love the sound of my custom A4. The others were also nice horns, but again, depends what sound/feel you’re going for.
This is an amazing video! So, now knowing Adams is customizable for hand size, my focus is shifting. I was interested in the Shires Destino lll, but I'm not certain the custom fit. Other than the one horn that was challenging to hit (low notes) how was the playability of all the instruments? Was everything nuanced? Or were there some that stood out significantly?
Hello Marc, I'm glad you enjoyed the video! When you ask about the playability of "all the instruments"...do you mean the Adams models in particular?
@@JoeBabiak I meant all of them. I know that's a lot! I know the Bachs have their own reputation, and I have an interest in the Shires (was that a Destino lll you were playing), and the Monnette is super pricey. My trumpet teacher played a Shilcke. So when I ask if the variations were nuanced, and all were amazing playing wise, or if there were some that stood out (obviously your Adams did 😁) via ease of playing. I hope that makes sense! Cheers!
@@mlhbrx96 - Hello again Marc! At the time I made this first video, I would say some of the Schilkes and some of the Adams stood out to me. I used to have a Bach 43 and therefore wasn't at all surprised that none of the Bach's I tested caught my ear. The Schilkes are very even sounding in all registers and the Adams horns offered the dark sound I like. However, since making this video, I came across my new horn ("Tumultus" by Klangwerkstatt Martin Böhme) that blows ALL the others out of the water! If you haven't already, check out my 2nd "Horn Comparison" video here: czcams.com/video/SnusHl1pl6M/video.html ....and the video that introduces my new Tumultus horn: czcams.com/video/zG4XrM8PqOg/video.html. Cheers!
@@JoeBabiak I saw the follow up! Well, I know what I want for Christmas! That horn is amazing!! I saw another CZcams page that featured a review on the Tumulus, and he changed the energy of the sound (classical, jazz/dark, commercial/lead) with three different mouthpieces. Speechless!
@@mlhbrx96 - Hey Marc! The Tumultus IS totally amazing! Indeed versatile and SO easy to play! I really hope you get play one! :-)
Hi,man, could you tell me where can i find this opening theme? i love it really
Thanks very much. This is an original composition of mine (not yet released). The sample from the end of the video is also from this song. It will be released on the upcoming album from my wife and I. Feel free to follow us at www.JoeundLinda.com for all related updates.
@@JoeBabiak cool
Please. What is the name of the piece being played in the intro? Love it!
Thanks so much!
Please see the video description towards the bottom. Info is there. The song is an original of mine called “City Noir Reflections” :)
That's a nice Adams Trumpet.
🤘🏽😎🤘🏽 - Thank you!
Hi, is it possible to know which mouthpiece you use?
Hi...mouthpiece info can be found here. Thanks! - czcams.com/video/ox1uXzMBp4I/video.html
I reeeaaallly liked how the copernicus sounded.
A very nice horn indeed :)
Salve sig Joe,vorrei sapere secondo lei quale è la tromba in assoluto migliore al mondo...e il prezzo grazie
Me personally, my favorite trumpet is my “Tumultus” by Klangwerkstatt Martin Böhme. I would say this is the best horn I’ve ever played. Of course, others will have their own preferences - czcams.com/video/zG4XrM8PqOg/video.html
Man...the adams Hybrid...yeah. you have a great horn
Thanks!
12:05 - Adams (Hybrid A4)
I think that was the winner. I'd like to try that one out.
It was a nice one; good playability but not the dark sound I was going for.
Congratulations on your new trumpet! What a true blessed journey. Did you get to try any rotary valves besides the one you did, and what did you think about them?
Thanks so much. I did try a few rotary valve horns and thought they were cool (though not exactly sure how to properly hold them :-P ). The notes seem to speak very quickly on those. But ultimately, the piston/Périnet valve horns were more to my liking. All the best!
JOE BABIAK I was just wondering! Sounds great and once again congratulations on your new horn.
Isn't the Schagerl Ganschhorn equipped with rotary valves?
@@matt53419 - Yes, that is correct. Though they are set up in such a way that it kind of feels like playing pistons valves.
Please, comment on the Lotus solo model. Would appreciate your analysis.
For me personally, I found the Lotus trumpets difficult to play. I felt restricted, like the horn was fighting me.
Would you say there’s a clear difference in sound between silver and lacquered trumpets?
Hmm…that’s a tough
question. I would say there’s a little bit of a difference. In general, I would say a silver trumpet tends to have more “brilliance,” whereas a lacquered horn tends to be a bit mellower.
@@JoeBabiak thanks
Which one you think out of the trumpets has the best intonation and full sound in all registers?
Greetings! Out of ALL the trumpets I tested (including the 2nd batch: czcams.com/video/SnusHl1pl6M/video.html)...I would say that they all had good intonation. But the trumpet that had the most "full" and appealing sound to my ears, was the TUMULTUS by Martin Böhme. Video of my Tumultus here: czcams.com/video/zG4XrM8PqOg/video.html. Cheers!
@@JoeBabiak Thanks bud..keep it going strong sir!
You’re very welcome...all the best!
I liked the a4lt. What ever that was? You sounded great on your final pick.
Thank you kindly!
What did you think of the Monette LT+?
It's a thing of beauty; great craftsmanship. But it just wasn't the sound I wanted.
Joe, what was the argument against A4 Hybrid? You've found that it articulates well and the tone is big without being dull. This one and your final A4 seem quite comparable, so I ask why the Hybrid wasn't enough?
Thanks for writing! The A4 Hybrid sounded nice but wasn't quite what I was looking for. At the time though, it was a sound in the right direction. After playing it for a while, I thought the sound of the Hybrid was a bit "thin" and I wanted a fatter/darker sound, which was exactly what I got with my final Adams Custom A4 w/ Shepherd's Crook.
Thanks, got it
Oh crumbs, if you’re playing this good on trumpet I’m gonna have to check out your drumming too!
Thanks man :-) Started playing horn a few years before drums, though I made a name for myself as a drummer. All the best!
@@JoeBabiak Cool, I think I can get where you're coming from, I'm a guitarist/teacher who gets a decent amount of work as a drummer (mostly depping and play in a 2nd line band) but I've been trying to learn trumpet for a few years now. It can be a cruel instrument but there's nothing else like it when on a good day, absolutely love it!
@@Wanielyo - Yea, brass in general requires constant training. The trumpet is definitely one temperamental son of a b!
Hey Joe, how does the Lotus horns compare to your latest Tumultus?
Hey man, the Lotus horns didn’t suit me. I felt them fighting me, whereas my Tumultus felt effortless & supportive. Sound-wise, the Lotus isn’t bad, it’s “creamy”…but I instantly fell in love with the sound of the Tumultus; warm, dark, and oh so responsive.
What didn't you like about the Adams A4LT? Was there a big difference in sound and blow between the A4LT and the horn you bought? Or even the straight A4.
Hello Jim...it's not that I didn't like things about the A4LT, it's just that I preferred the character of the A4 more so. The A4LT had a very nice dark sound with a solid core. To my ear, it was more directional of a sound. The A4 (particularly my custom A4) had a wider spread of sound. The L-bore A4 was hands down the most free-blowing horn I have experienced (more than the A4LT), but then again, that's exactly what I prefer. As for sound, I found that the polished inner-bell of my horn really gave my tone the smooth/buttery quality I wanted, more so than any of the stock A4s or A4LTs. Hope this helps - JB
@@JoeBabiak Joe, I have a A4LT on trial right now and I do like the blow and slots on this horn. But it sounds a little bright for my ears. I did try the A4 at ITG in 2019 and liked the sound but not the weight of the horn. I also like the idea of a shepherds crook so the feedback is closer to my ears.
@jim nolan - Hey Jim, I wonder if the A4LT you're testing has a yellow brass bell? That could explain the brightness. In my case, Adams was kind enough to build a few custom horns for me (with no obligation to purchase) so I could really test the different size & material combinations. This was crucial; to A/B the differences in sound (process of elimination).
I would suggest playing/ordering a lacquered, .50 gauge, gold brass bell (polished inside), with a shepherds crook. Perhaps even with the larger 5.5 inch bell. In my opinion, that should darken up the sound nicely.
@@JoeBabiak Joe, the horn I have is a yellow brass bell. I'm not close to any shop that sells Adams so any trial is through the mail. They do have a straight A4 with the gold brass bell in stock. They also said that they have a A4 Shepherds crook coming in.
Definitely worth trying out some different options. Wish you the best!
Did you like the Schagerl phelin? Sounds good
Hi and thanks for writing! If I remember correctly, the Schagerl Phelin "Vlado Kumpan" model was fairly dark sounding and free-blowing. I would have to play it again to have a more detailed impression, but I would recommend trying this model if you have the opportunity. All the best!
What is that song in the introduction
Hello! The song is an original of mine. It will be released on the upcoming debut album of my wife and I. Follow/Subscribe to our social media to stay up to date with our album updates...JoeundLinda.com instagram.com/JoeundLinda facebook.com/JoeundLinda czcams.com/users/JoeundLinda
Any tips on playing very high notes clear and without strain?
My best tip...ask someone who can actually play clean high notes without strain.😂 But seriously, my days as a lead player were long ago and very short lived. Regardless, I wish you the best!
@@JoeBabiak ok lol, thank you anyways tho
Look up Bobby Shew Wedge breath videos. That's the foundation
Great video, thanks ! It's a shame that you didn't go to Van Laar to compare an oiram to an A4, i would have loved to see how they compare
Woupsy, my bad, just watched part 2. Oiram sounds better imho
@@jacqueschamma3045 - The Van Laars were very nice horns; I especially liked the brushed gold B5. However, none of them (or the others) come close to the Martin Böhme "Tumultus" I now have. Cheers!
@@JoeBabiak since then I tried the oiram 1, 3 and 4 and didn't like the way they played (I play jazz) even if they're beauties. I liked the B7 best
so curious on your thoughts between Böhme and Monette? That monette LT sounded amazing, I also loved the Adams A4 LT. Would you rather play a new Boeme or a used Monette under 10K?
Hands down, without any hesitation, I would choose the "Tumultus" by Martin Böhme any day over a Monette. Monette horns supposedly promote an easier playing experience, though my experience with the LT+ was the opposite. My new "Tumultus"' by Martin Böhme however, is the best playing/sounding horn I've ever played and blows the Monette out of the water! Plus it has the warm/dark sound I desire, but WAY better responsiveness than the Adams A4 LT.
The Adams is a good choice but to me the Schilkes, I realize there were several, generally sounded the best.
The Schilkes are nice horns. My wife liked them best from all the silver horns. They play very evenly throughout. At the time, the Adams was the closest to the sound I heard in my head. However, I have since discovered my “Dream Horn” which blows everything else clear out of the water! Check it out here - czcams.com/video/zG4XrM8PqOg/video.html
Do you think that Schilke trumpets are exceptionally free-blowing, as I’ve seen claimed?
I would say they feel fairly free-blowing, some models more than others. But I would not say they are the most free-blowing horns out there. Nevertheless, for me they were very comfortable to play, and I myself prefer more open, free-blowing horns.
JOE BABIAK
Do you have any opinion regarding what from your experience are the freest-blowing trumpets?
@@hayesman76 - I would say the Yamaha YTR-8345RG 02 I tested (@) and the Large bore Adams A4 are some of the most free-blowing horns I've played. But I would encourage anyone to try the horns for yourself. What feels a certain way to one person might feel completely different to another.
JOE BABIAK
Thanks, Joe.
By coincidence, today I tried a flugelhorn for the first time and it’s way freer-blowing than any trumpet I’ve ever played.
@@hayesman76 - That would make sense with the larger tubing. Perhaps flugelhorn is the way to go for you if you seek a super free-blowing horn.
The Gansch.
Based on tone, ease of playing, intonation, agility, ease of playing, articulation, tonal consistency, and ease of playing.
The Gansch horn was fairly easy to play, but nothing compared to my new horn (Tumultus by Klangwerkstatt Martin Böhme). czcams.com/video/zG4XrM8PqOg/video.html
@@JoeBabiak just to make an idea… compare to an Adams A4 or a yamaha Bobby Shew would you choose an Gansch horn? In which level of quality is placed? I’m looking for a professional trumpet and this could be one of the options but I want to try one of them in Austria or maybe Germany. (I’m living in the Netherlands)
@@pedrolako9 - The Adams A4 & Yamaha Bobby Shew are very different horns. The Gansch horn was nice, but it was far from my favorite. If you're looking for a professional level horn in Germany, do yourself a favor and check out klangwerkstatt-boehme.de/en/. I have the "Tumultus" model - czcams.com/video/zG4XrM8PqOg/video.html.
I wish to have the same place here in my country
Hi im new to trumpets do u like the Bach Models
Hello! The Bach models are okay for me, definitely not my favorites. But I think my favorite Bach is the 25 model.
JOE BABIAK cool ty!
Of all....i think the schagerl, morrison model has a very clear sound
That’s a nice one. Felt a bit tight to me, but if it’s good for James Morrison, it can’t be a bad horn. He’s a multi-instrumentalist beast!
All good trumpets but i like the sound of the K&H best...do you remember what model it was...?
Unfortunately, I don't. It's the only one that I don't remember the model. But I remember it played well and had a nice dark sound.
@@JoeBabiak Thankyou for your response...in the meantime i think i found out what model it was: K%H Topline...but indeed, Adams trumpets have better ratings...only i don't have the money for such an expensive trumpet...So i'm planning on buying the Schagerl Mnozil...which also has good reviews...At this moment i have a Roy Benson TR-202 which is adequate for the time being...it has a really nice design...but is made in China...
@@BananaZen7 - Cool. I would also HIGHLY recommend checking out Martin Böhme and his trumpets! Best horns I've ever played! In my opinion, better than Monette, Lotus, etc. Here's the video from when I got my Tumultus trumpet by Martin Böhme: czcams.com/video/zG4XrM8PqOg/video.htmlsi=BzOoykAcAPyDkSil
Out of all the horns you tried. What is the brightest and most free blowing?? I am looking for a really confident trumpet. I'd really appreciate your help.
Hello...the brightest/most free-blowing horn I tested...hmm...
I would say the S.E. Shires (CVLA-L) and the Adams A10 (gold lacquer) were the brightest out of all the horns I tested. They were not as free-blowing as other horns that REALLY stood out in my mind for being "free-blowing" (such as the Yamaha YTR-8345RG 02 or my own custom Large bore Adams A4) but neither felt super "tight" either. In general, the Adams horns have a "darker" quality, and I was actually surprised how "dark sounding" the Schilke horns are, considering they're silver.
My advice is to test a bunch out for yourself; with a little time you'll be able to narrow down your search to a certain company (or companies) that produce the sound you desire. Wish you the best for your search! - JB
@@JoeBabiak thank you for your feedback.
Que boquilla usas ?
Hello...in this video I used both a Bach 1X and a JK Exclusive 4B A2...but currently I use a 1MLX by Hammond Design. Cheers!