12 Hour Range Anxiety Road Trip to White Sands National Park in Tesla Model Y | S3:E4
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- čas přidán 18. 02. 2023
- In today's video I road trip from Austin, TX to White Sands National Park in New Mexico. Follow along as I run into charging issues which cause some extreme range anxiety as I'm stuck using slow 3rd party chargers instead of the faster, more reliable Tesla Supercharger network.
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Made a mistake on the graphic at 11:19. Was supposed to say Ozona, TX Supercharger. Also... when is Tesla finally going to start adding Superchargers to National Parks? Now that the current admin is giving them billions to open up their network, here's hoping they use some of that to put chargers deep inside National Parks across the US 👍🏻
There is an amazing supercharger outside the south rim of the grand canyon
@@Chrisb8s Yep. Visited that one in my Grand Canyon Camping video. Another great one at the West Entrance of Yellowstone, but the issue is... none inside the parks. Many of these parks take hours to drive through so putting fast chargers (over 150kW) is sorely needed. Thanks for watching and commenting 😀
@@bryanhauer that’s true. Maybe the infrastructure plan will add at least some level 2 chargers
@@Chrisb8s That's what I'm counting on 👍🏻Actually I think they'll really grow the level 3's over the next 18 months.
I live in New Mexico with a Model Y. The state is so large and so remote. Lots of state and national parks we would love to visit but the superchargers are only along the interstates.
With the couple that reminds me of a story a Danish ID4 driver told me when I met him on a charger in the middle of nowhere in Tuscany, Italy. On his trip to Italy on a charging station on the highway in the mountains, he met an old couple in a Skody Enyaq with the small 58kWh battery. They wee standing there crying, because it was close to empty (5% or so), they had no charging cards and did not even know how to charge. It was a brand new Enyaq, 2 weeks old, they just d3cided to go on a trip as they would have done with their ICE and the salesperson at Skoda did not tell them anything about how to charge, how to do it abroad, that you need cards that work abroad (in Europe that is a big issue), etc.
So he let them charge on his card of course and did not accept their money. He also helped them to register with an app that they could use registering a credit card. EV drivers still seem to help each other. But how irresponsible of the salesperson!
Nice! Yeah there will be lots of people out there needing help over the next few years as the world changes over to EV's. Nice of him to help them out.
Thanks Bryan. Learned a lot from this and enjoyed the beautiful Whites Sands National Park. Lotsa love from Toronto ❤❤❤
Glad you enjoyed it, Douglas! Thank you for watching!
9:45 this is exactly what I noticed on my first road trip in Tesla too. It was 12h+ trip from Yellowstone. I was tired at the end of the trip but not as much as when I was traveling in my old golf TDI that goes 400 miles on full tank. More frequent stops are just easier mentally and physically. Autopilot probably helps to make trips more enjoyable since I can also pay attention to things around the road.
The couple was lucky to have met up with you! Hard lesson learned for them. We took a fairly long trip to help me get over range anxiety. I am 98% cured 😂. I learned how you can conserve battery by driving a bit slower if I do get worried. My goal was to drive the speed limit and trust the Tesla’s range estimates. I could not be like you, and leave with estimate of 8% battery but needed at least 15%. I love the Tesla MYP and now more confident with range estimates.
I’ve got a pretty good idea of what it can do after so many trips, but yep, slowing down definitely helps conserve battery. I try not to do that unless it’s absolutely needed, but have done it a few times when I was a bit worried early on. You’ll be a pro in no time 😀 I also like having the CCS adapter as a backup just in case. It’s also helped in a few sticky spots.
@@bryanhauer, yes we had to use ccs adapter at Kanab Utah. Otherwise we have been lucky to find Tesla Superchargers. Our trip temperatures ranged between -15C and +12 C so it was a good test for us to learn variables. Can’t wait until summer when we have consistent great range.
Alarms are indispensable.
Love them.
Alarms??
Love that you helped Jay and Sheila, you’re such a great guy! Great video, I’ve been wanting to take a cross country trip from S. Carolina to California via I-10 and was worried about the charging in this specific leg of the trip. You definitely boosted my confidence that it can be done. Happy and safe travels.
Thanks 🙏 Definitely can be done, but the 150kW chargers slow it down a slight bit. I'd expect most of those to be updated to 250kW this year along with many added stops. 👍🏻 Thanks for watching!
I'm enjoying taking trips with you on your videos. I always have my Tesla power adaptor with me along with my CCS adapter. So far after almost 2 years, I've only been on one 7 hr. away road trip with no problems and a couple of times where I've had a day trip where I've needed my CCS to top up in order to make it home
Nice 👍🏻 Yep, great to have as a backup. Most people won't need them often if they just drive around home, but like you said... good to top off or even then if you live in a Tesla congested area, you can hit an Electrify America. The worthless ones are the slow level 2 chargers in store parking lots. I mean I love having them at hotels where you can charge all night, but they're pretty meaningless otherwise.
I haven't traveled where I need to use any Superchargers in the 11 months of owning my '2022 MYLR. Always short day trips and return to charge at home (not normal I know, but we have a motorhome for long trips). Home charging is such a great method. Thanks for showing what it's like to charge on the road. And I do have all adapters when the time comes.😊
You're very welcome! Home charging is definitely one of the best aspects of owning an EV. Just like your phone you plug it in when you go to bed and when you wake up, it's fully charged and ready to go. Never have to go to a gas station to fill it up unless you travel long distances.So much cheaper too 👍🏻 Thanks for watching!
Thank you for your video. Very helpful! That couple is sooo lucky you were there. Driving an EV on a road trip definitely requires planning. Haven’t done a road trip in my SR+ model 3 in a few years. Drove from LA to south San Diego today. Forgot to fully charge so I had to use supercharger. Car tried to navigate me to. 72 kw charger so I had to pick a 150 kw charger on the fly. Got to my destination with 13% charge. Had to drop off my kid and then drive to north San Diego to find a super charger. The road to the 250kw station I chose was blocked! Fortunately found another. Few miles away and took the last spot. My hotel which was still a good 20 miles away has 4 Tesla destination chargers and one non Tesla charger. I had no idea! Lesson learned.
I love destination chargers at hotels. I’d imagine with the government giving billions to Elon to expand and open the Tesla network there will be a huge explosion of 250kW chargers over the next couple years.
Good seeing you travel through the state I live in! Texas takes a while to travel through. Good to see there are superchargers located conveniently along the way.
Lots to see there for sure and it sure made for a long day of travel in this one. I was ready for bed 🥱 Thanks for watching!
Texas takes forever to travel through 😅😅
@@laurabodycombe7998 For sure. That was a long day of driving. 🥱
28:36 I stayed at that same Holiday Inn Express and they have 120 V (15 amp) outlets on every other light pole on the north and east side of the parking lot. I was able to charge 17 kWh using a portable EVSE over about 12 hours.
Oh I didn't see that. Wish I would have known. Worked out anyways for them, but good to know for future trips there. I don't think the hotel employees even knew that. Good info. Thank you.
What an amazing end to a wonderful video!!! I can't wait to visit White Sands National Part...Very soon! Good Lord Willing :)
Glad you enjoyed the video! You'll love White Sands! It's amazing! I wish I could have put more in about it, but the video was already getting long since it was such a long day of travel and figured I'd go back this summer when the weather is a bit better and will do a proper video of just the park. Thanks so much for watching and commenting 😀
@@bryanhauer You are welcome my Friend…Safe travels! 🤗
Hoped the couple subscribed to the channel. That’s the least they can do. Lol.
At White Sands, you needed to drive further than where you stopped for better views.
They did 😀 I did drive in farther, but that video was getting long enough I decided to end it there 👍 Beautiful place!
24:51 That right charger at the Borman Hyundai has one of two power modules broken. I live here in Las Cruces and it has been that way for a few months. Now the ChargePoint app correctly says only 31 kW for the right unit. I've updated the PlugShare description to make it more clear only the left unit is fully working.
Nice! That should help other folks who end up there. Thanks. 👍🏻
The one thing I love about driving through TX is the speed limits! Almost nothing under 70 mph! Plus lots of 80mph!
That is nice 👍 I’ve seen a few 85 mph somewhere around Wyoming or Montana too, but then that really starts to kill the range.
Van Horn Texas is central time, once you leave Van Horn and in the middle of the hill is where it changes to mountain time.
Yep 👍🏻 I knew El Paso was mountain, but the Apple Watch changing when it did threw me off 😀
Too bad you didn't get some barbecue at your stop in Junction. That restaurant on the north side of the Chevron station is pretty good. And they have a drive through.
Oh, good tip. I'll put it on my travel list for next time I'm headed through there. I love me some good BBQ. I'll return the favor. If you ever head to Nashville, stop at Peg Leg Poker downtown. Probably my favorite BBQ yet.👍🏻 Thanks for the tip and for watching 😀
I haven't taken many road trips but I have my mobile connector with 110v and 240v adapters, my 250kw CCS adapter, heavy duty 240v extension cord, roadside kit, Modern Spare spare tire and jack kit, jack pads, first aid kit, flashlight all tucked away in a waterproof gym bag in the sub trunk.
As far as the mobile connector, I also have the plastic mobile connector lock ring to hopefully help if I need it to help prevent people from ripping your cord out.
But yeah, never go on a road trip in a gas car or EV and not be prepared. This couple was definitely lucky you were there....
Absolutely! This is especially true when traveling to remote areas. Sounds like you're well prepared 👍🏻
1) I don't think that I would be too comfortable charing at that Ozona TX charger in the middle of the night. 2) Nice save of that couple at the hotel! 3) I totally agree about some chargers in the National Parks, even adding Level 2 chargers would be great.
Yeah that charging location is a bit weird. I've seen a couple like that in a motel parking lot. Both have been kind of out in the middle of nowhere though so it's mostly travelers just stopping for the night to rest. Thanks for tuning in 😀
I would love to see Super Chargers in all rest stops as well. In CA caltrans has installed free 50KW ccs/chadamo chargers in a lot of them, but its no where near enough. It's only one charger at each rest stop.
I expect the next 18 months to be a huge growth period for fast chargers (over 150kW).
Hey Bryan, welcome to NM. Charging can be so hard in these smaller towns. I took a trip from Albuquerque to Carlsbad caverns. I had to use destination chargers to make it. It was rough. I’ve been wait for Tesla to put some chargers in that area. Carlsbad Caverns would be a good place to visit if you’ve never been.
Thanks Jose! Carlsbad Caverns is on my list of places to visit and had looked to visit when I was there, but like you said, there is not really many charging options in that area so I opted to wait until some are installed. I couldn't even find a slower 50kW 3rd party charger.
I’m in Albuquerque also. We would love to visit Chaco Canyon but haven’t figured out a way to do it.
@@laurabodycombe7998 hello, you might be able to make it if you stopped to top off at Rv park in Cuba.
Fan of short hop travel as well for the reasons you mentioned. We took a 3,200 mile trip last fall. Using TeslaMate to track the trip, our average distance between SuC stops was only 70 miles and the average charge time was 14 minutes. That was about 75 minutes in the car, which was plenty. On legs where we were in the car for closer to two hours it was too much for me. Added benefit is it's great for battery health. 70-30% SOC most of the time.
Nice 👍🏻 Yeah, it works well for me and feels like it breaks the trip up enough to a more manageable schedule and I feel more alert whereas in the past I've probably pushed it too far in a gas car and only stopped for a few minutes to refuel and be on my way.
@@bryanhauer Will be getting a CCS adapter for my 2019 Model 3 as soon at it's available for the upgrade. You had great luck to find working CCS chargers when you needed them. Good karma for helping out that couple! I hope the good spirit of the Tesla community lives on for a long time. That light in El Paso was gorgeous too.
@@epcalderhead Agree. It's hit or miss with the CCS chargers actually working. I've had pretty good luck, but have only needed to do it a handful of times.
Yeah that sunset as I pulled into the El Paso Supercharger was great 👍🏻
Bryan, one of the best videos on Tesla tripping I have seen, very informative. Do you know what your efficiency was... i.e. your watts per mile? I am curious how the 'high' speed roads and the caboose on the rear may have affected the efficiency. TIA. p.s. Were any of the videos recorded on the Tesla cameras?
Thanks! I really appreciate that. In some recent videos I just shot I was getting around high 200's like 280Wh/mile to 340Wh/mile. I've only been noticing a 5-10% range hit with the rear cargo vs 25-35% when I had the rooftop box.
No videos were recorded with Tesla cameras. I think I've only used Tesla footage a couple times in videos.
Thank you for watching 😀
Tesla has to get some 250Kw chargers going out that way, Elon's enabled camp mode... we wanna camp in remote places !
Exactly 👍 That drive is one of the few that’s still all 150kW, but I imagine they’ll all get upgraded this year.
I would definitely be charging for an extra 10 or so minutes just to add a little buffer to the buffer.
I used to do that and still do occasionally. I now try to arrive with less than 10% at Superchargers when I'm traveling across country to maximize efficiency/speed when charging. Sometimes it gets a little dicey, but usually it arrives fairly accurately to what was predicted. 👍🏻
I was camping a state park in California last weekend and they had two EV chargers, but would not allow the public to use- only state vehicles.
Oh weird. Luckily there should be a big push in the next couple years that doubles or even triples the current charging infrastructure.
Cool road trip! Earned my sub.
Do you live in the Vegas areas? I just started doing tesla road trip videos like you!
Thanks Carmen! That's super exciting.I've been having a blast making mine so I wish you all the best 😀 I'm part-time out of Vegas and live in Nashville the rest of the year with a couple months in Minnesota during the summers. Best of luck with everything and maybe I'll see you out on the road 👍🏻
Love the video story! Did someone drive MY to the Big Bend National Park? I'm wondering how well MY camping tour would be.
Thanks! I haven't done that trip yet, but would like to visit Big Bend. I've camped in a lot of states, but am looking forward to finally making it to the Northwest later this year as well as the New England area, but likely can't do both in the same year. It's a great vehicle for camping though 😀 Thanks for watching!
@@bryanhauer Both are great places to visit. The Big bend National and state parks are tougher due to the lack of superchargers nearby. Does Tesla provide WIFI at the Supercharger that one can check email or important news there?
@@Jim-wm1td They've announced that's coming. In places like Las Vegas at the Linq Highroller Supercharger they have it provided by Caesars, but the national Supercharger network is supposed to be upgraded with Starlink at most chargers "soon." Most don't have it yet.
Getting a CCS reduces range anxiety by 90% and I have found most non-Tesla chargers to be cheaper,
Yep. Definitely a great backup plan in certain areas. While these were cheaper for me this time, I've found the 3rd parties to usually be more expensive. Electrify America to be specific. It's usually over $0.41/kWh and I just got an email last week that they are raising prices again. One I used in my Minnesota video charged a $5.00 connection fee no matter how much you charged which is crazy. A lot of this is new so in the coming years will all get ironed out. My fear though is that electric companies and car manufacturers will realize that since people are so used to gas prices, they'll just raise prices to eventually all cost the same as people are paying now and we'll all be in the same boat. My only hope there is if Tesla continues to be a leader that they will keep the cost relatively low so the market can't gouge the charging prices. We'll see 🤷♂️
On my last trip to Poznan, Poland, I went to the one supercharger they have there (150kW) , plug in, walk the dog and plan to go to a restaurant (had arrived with 2% after a straight 436km trip from Prague without charging, not bad for winter and rain) , when I check my charging speed and at 10% it was down to 75kW. I check the sentry and indeed someone charges next to me. So I go there and it is a woman with an MY. All other chargers were free! So I ask her why she parks ne t to me and halves my cha4ging speed. Her answer: I always charge on this, sorry. So I had to repark. Some people are really weird 😂
As always great video. Btw sent you an email: will be visiting my daughter on 23. March in Berlin, so we could meet up there eg for lunch somewhere on the outskirts. I checked and they still do not do normal tours in Giga Berlin (just for T3slaownerclubs etc). But maybe you could contact Tesla and ask because as a more influential youtuber you get one. Otherwise we can also meet somewhere on one of the nice lakes Berlin has ... let me know
People are funny 😀 I think a lot of people just don't know which is one reason I try to bring it up as often as I can. I've seen people sitting in their car in Vegas charging at a Destination charger directly across from a Supercharger. When I inquired why, They had no idea that the one across from them would charge their car in 20 minutes vs 6 hours 🤷♂️
I'll email you in the next couple days. I'll be getting all the plans finalized early this week and will reach out to you probably Tuesday, but the 23rd sounds good in Berlin. I'll see what I can do about Giga Berlin 😀
@@bryanhauer sure, do that. I know the #8 restaurant in Berlin among top restaurants at a lake (yeah we got that kind of ranking 😂) which is not far from there. Usually for putside sitting but lets see. On the other hand, you are used to dine alone in the cold desert, so that is probably anyway cool as long as the waiters are willing to serve outside :) ... they also have inside places of course.
So yeah let me know and would try to reserve some. Also let me know how many you will be.
I have one of the MY’s that needs the CCS Adapter retrofit done by Tesla before I can actually us a CCS adapter. Have you (or anybody) heard of an updated timeframe for this to be available? Tesla just continues to say “early 2023” in the Tesla app.
Good question. I haven't seen anything recently, but have seen plenty of people that did it on their own and know there's many CZcams videos explaining it. Seemed to just be a chip that needs to be replaced and back when I saw it, people were getting the chip directly from Tesla's actual supplier. I'd suspect Tesla will be ready to do them later in the summer. Anything Elon says or Tesla (through Elon) needs a buffer of 2-3 X's longer than stated 😀
Bryan, please do a video of your cargo box and hitch. I will have my MYP in a couple of weeks and want to test your way of camping. If I like it I will be able to sell my Class C RV.
Your wish is my command 😀 Its actually coming out Tue or Wed this week 👍
I would be interested in seeing this as well. Curious how it impacts range since roof rack boxes can reduce range quite a bit.
@@BrentY5285 Should be out Wednesday.👍🏻
Super curious… you do so much traveling and supercharging. Have you noticed any change in your range? I’m new to Tesla and the first thing everyone is telling me to charge up to 80% for daily drive and only use supercharge when necessary. Thanks. I enjoy your videos as i just got my Y so I can do the same thing you are doing with my dog.
That's awesome! I've noticed about 7% degradation in about 2.5 years so not much. If you have a regular lithium-ion battery pack like I do in my Model Y you should charge daily to 80 or 85%, if you have a lithium iron phosphate battery pack like on the standard range Model 3 it should say on the screen you can charge every time to 100% and is actually suggested. Just depends which battery pack you have. Don't worry about Supercharging as in the time you'll own the car you'll never notice any loss of range or performance from doing so, so it's not even worth worrying about. Just drive and enjoy 😊 Appreciate you watching!
How does one communicate with Tesla, especially as to suggestions for future Supercharging Stations locations? Tesla's website indicates that you can contact them but you end up seeing a list of pre-questions with pre-answers.
You can suggest new Supercharger locations here: www.tesla.com/suggest-superchargers
How much do you think the box in the back affected your range? I noticed that you were arriving with just about the percentage that the Navigation said you would.
Great question! It's about 5%. I barely notice it compared to the rooftop box which was about 25%-35%. It's also completely quiet. I do feel the rear box a bit when driving on windy days as you can feel an occasional sway from the wind, but range wise it's way less of a loss.
Bryan-you should definitely get A Better Route Planner app and use it to plan your SC routes. You can dial it in to such a better degree of accuracy and customization over Tesla’s built-in planner. It can be optimized to take advantage of the higher charging curve at a lower state of charge, which is essentially what you were trying to do in this video by charging for shorter periods with more stops. Just a tip. Enjoy your content!
Thanks so much for the tip. I've already used ABRP and have talked about it a few times on the channel. While I think it's a great tool for the avg person to give them a very efficient trip. I've found it doesn't work well for me (especially with a cargo box), but also because it's best used to get you somewhere the fastest, most efficient way, but I don't always want that. I'm in no hurry and many of my stops are for scenery, to get video or because there's a certain restaurant I want to stop at.
Over the last couple years I've found that it works better for me to eyeball it as I know what my car can do as far as distances (usually 😀) and lots of times it will come down to a choice like... ABRP would have me leave now and stop for 10 minutes at the next 3 Superchargers, but if I stick around the current 250kW charger I'm on for another 15-20 minutes I can drive 230 miles to a town with a BBQ restaurant I've wanted to try and get there at dinner time. Scenarios like that, that ABRP obviously can't plan for.
Overall I think it's a great app that most people should download and use on road trips. Just doesn't work well for most of mine. If I was in a hurry, with no box, I would probably use it 👍🏻
Thanks again for the tip as it will help a lot of other EV owners which we all appreciate. 😀
@@bryanhauer I think you may be underselling it! There are settings for increasing your vehicle’s specific consumption (due to a box or trailer, etc) and to optimize for fastest trip/fewer or more stops and for the SoC you want to end at. I have to use it frequently as a NYCer without any home charging. Frequently when coming back from trips, Tesla will get me home with a short final SC stop and get me home at 20%, but that creates obvious problems without a home charger where the car is going to sit with phantom drain for sometimes a week or two at a time. ABRP lets me say I want to get home with at least 40%, and it optimizes the whole route for that.
But, as you say, I’d imagine you’ve gotten quite good at eyeballing it-you’re a road warrior! Thanks for all the videos. Planning some in-car camping trips this summer and your videos have been an invaluable resource.
@@SilkySmooveness I'll give it another go for sure this summer, but I don't rely on Tesla's too much either. I usually look at Tesla's first by putting in the end destination and then I decide from there based on charger speeds, do I hate a specific location based on past experience or again is there a specific restaurant at one or ice cream shop. Things like that.
Maybe I'll do a trip this summer where I compare what Tesla would do, ABRP would do and what I would do and see what the best option would be based on certain criteria.
@@bryanhauer would make for solid content! I’ll add that yo-yo’ing several stops is most doable on a major interstate with very high 250kw SC density. My wife and I just got back from NYC > Sarasota > Miami > Charleston and I-95’s insane charger availability definitely makes it easy. Very different use case than a lot of your videos with the remote locales and camping.
@@SilkySmooveness For sure. Lots more coverage on the East Coast (more population). Lots of empty stretches out west here still, but seems like they're filling them fairly quickly.
I love EV road tripping. It's much more relaxing than ICE vehicles.
It can be as long as EV range anxiety doesn't creep in 😀
How does the tesla determine how much buffer to leave it to the next charging stop? Sometimes it’s 11% sometimes it’s 20%. Do you set that somewhere or the tesla randomly picks a number?
Voodoo magic 🧞♂️ 😀 Only kidding. It does take into consideration weather, temp, terrain like mountains and wind so while we have no control over setting that, it looks at all those factors and then makes a determination. I will say if you don't have a cargo box or aren't towing, it's quite accurate to usually within 1-3%. I still like to be little cautious and add an extra 5-10% to be safe.
Can you offer suggestions for what Tesla or Aftermarket accessories one should definitely have when on an extended trip, i.e. adapters, etc.
For adapters... (I have links in the description of every video)
CCS - czcams.com/video/jzOoh-_yCQ8/video.html
Camping Adapters - czcams.com/video/V4V-Ji1bzw0/video.html
Otherwise I'd suggest just checking out more of my travel videos as there's usually a couple suggestions in each. If there's anything specific let me know besides the adapter videos I linked to above.
How much range loss is there with box in back vs on top? Would a spare tire from modern spare fit in one of these boxes? What’s your opinion on a used model S for about the same cost as a new Y as a camper? It would have more storage space.
Top Cargo Box around 25-35% on avg range loss vs Rear Cargo Box around 5-10% range loss.
I'd go with the new Y with some type of cargo box vs an older S.
Unfortunately teslas don’t even come with a Tesla charging cable. Great job.
Yes you now have to pay for it. Elon likes to nickel and dime. It should be included. 👍🏻
Yes, Tesla Superchargers are the best although I think it would be good to have more chargers in general. Most of the third Party chargers are really slow. I mean 30 kWh?
Btw. next time you pass El Paso you should stop at Cattleman Ranch, east right outside of El Paso. It's a wonderful Steakhouse in the middle of the desert. It was also a filmset in the past for a few movies. Oh and about the Chargers at National Parks, I agree they should have more, specially since the government pushes EV's so much.
P.s. between tomorrow and March, 21th I will get my Tesla Model Y, at least that's what the App says :)
Congrats! You should have your Model Y in no time. 😀 I think we’re about to see a huge investment into growing the charging networks over the next 18 months. Lots of money flooding in from the govt and Tesla will be opening their network here in the US this year as well. Thanks for the great tip on El Paso too. I’ll definitely check that steakhouse out next time I’m traveling though. 👍
@@bryanhauer I am a bit bummed about Tesla right now. We ordered our Car really early in January and the expected delivery date got now pushed back three times. I understand that they have a ton of orders but that also worries me that the quality will be bad because they try to speed up the build process. :-/
@@traderjoe477 I wouldn't worry too much about that. They standardized the process and build quality over the last 6 months has gotten much better. You can and should of course do an inspection on delivery day. I had no issues in 2021, but made sure to take 20 minutes to look over everything. That's too bad they keep pushing it back though. Hopefully you get the email soon that it's got a delivery date 👍🏻
Have you ever tried a KOA campground charge up and sleep in your car?
I try to stay away from KOA's as much as possible as they're not exactly the type of camping I like and are usually quite expensive. I much prefer dispersed camping out west like I did in my Zion National Park video. It's much more relaxing, way more room as neighbors might be a football field away and best of all it's free. 😀 With all that said... I have done normal campgrounds like in my Savannah, GA video or even used electrical hookups at the Mt Charleston video I did on camping adapters for Tesla's. I probably have a dozen or more videos where I sleep at a normal campground and it's usually because there's a lack of chargers in that area so I'll find a campground with a 50AMP hookup. Just haven't done the KOA's. Thanks for the comment and for watching!
doesn't draining below 30% and supercharging degrade the battery faster?
There’s two ways to drive a car with lithium ion batteries… daily driving you’d generally keep it between roughly 30-80%, but for road trips drain it down as low as you can go before recharging to get the fastest charging performance. Doing this every so often is perfectly fine and nothing one should ever worry about.
what is the left pack on your wheel?
Not sure what you're referring to. When in the video?
We made that trip across the south from NC last week. All the way to Phoenix. Did you go through San Antonio with the construction, any trouble, and what time of day? Currently in Vegas. Cold here.
Nice 👍🏻 I didn't go through San Antonio, but did stop in Phoenix for a few days and then onto Vegas where I've been home basing it while traveling out west. It is cold here today. Last couple days were super nice, but the next week will be a bit chilly. How long you in town?
@@bryanhauer Heading back down to Queen Creek early next week. Chilly here, but enjoyed South Point again . That casino has a buffet and movies.
@@seniordockman2946 Used to live not far from South Point and occasionally play poker tournaments there.
why not FSD BETA 11.3 on the way?
No interest. I prefer not to pay (for FSD) to be part of beta testing. Plus paying for FSD (which it shouldn't be allowed to be called) is wildly overpriced and not worth it in my opinion.
Hey Bryan, does the Cargo on the Tow hitch impede your rear camera vision? And also I'm just curious- but how are you able to spend so much time traveling- are you able to work from cafes? Also, I think this video has me sold on getting a CCS 1 adapter. I just wish Tesla included the Mobile Connectors like they used to instead of cutting costs there.
It barely impedes it. Took me a couple times backing into a Supercharger to get used to it, but all good now. You can also turn off the beeping noise that happens when you back up in the Safety Settings and turn off parking chimes. Here's a recent video clip I quickly found of what the camera looks like with the rear cargo box on and backing up into a Supercharger: czcams.com/video/IUiW5S2Hjyw/video.html
If you travel a lot, the CCS adapter is a must as a backup option. 👍🏻
On and forgot to answer your question about travel... I've run a web design/dev company for many years so have clients I work with around the country and can do that remotely so having something like Starlink is great for people that are on the road often, but still have to work. With that said... not long ago I informed my clients that this would be my final year and will be devoting my time to CZcams and won't be renewing my contract going forward. I'm having too much fun not to dedicate more time to it 😀 Oh and one thing I don't think people realize is... my travel is usually fairly inexpensive for the most part. Superchargers, campgrounds, free BLM camping and the occasional hotel/flight isn't too bad using credit cards with points as well as tier matching on many of the rewards programs. I actually plan to do a full video about this (travel hacking) in the next couple months so stay tuned.
@@bryanhauer Gotcha! I'm a mobile software developer and I've often daydreamed about working remotely and finding a way to work while camping. I just bought my Model Y fairly recently so these videos have been really enlightening and entertaining to watch!
@@George-nx8zu Oh cool. Yep, you have the perfect job to do it. Just get Starlink and a 5G hotspot backup and you'll be on the road working in no time 😉 Glad you're enjoying the video. I appreciate you watching!
What model y do you have? Using 70 pct for 120 miles seems like a lot!
I have a 2021 Model Y Long Range. Which part did you see that cause someone else said something similar? If so, it's usually due to mountain terrain, weather, wind or maybe cause I was driving over 80 mph, but normally I'd get around 250-270 with my rear cargo box and have gotten up to 305 miles when I first got the car and didn't have anything on it.
Any reason to get that beefier adapter for CCS when we already have the adapter that came with the car?
The adapter that comes with the car is called a J1772 and will usually charge at a max rate of about 8kW so would take about 7-8 hours to go from 10% to 80%. These are more used for if you're at a hotel that has a J1772 plug or a city center library or shopping center sometimes has them. They're best used for many hours like overnight or if you're shopping all day. That type of thing.
The CCS adapter is for fast charging like a Supercharger does, but just on a 3rd party network like Electrify America or ChargePoint here in the US. I use the app called Plugshare to help find these. These allow you to charge up at full speed (usually between 50kW - 250kW) in around 20-45 minutes for 10%-80% for example. All car manufacturers besides Tesla use a CCS plug. Tesla was one of the first so they made their own plug, but in recent years Europe and most of the world has settled on CCS being the standard. In Europe and Asia all Tesla's sell with CCS plugs, not the ones we have here in the US.
The CCS adapters are great for if you travel a lot or have a route that Tesla doesn't have Superchargers on, but those are rare. I use mine as a backup just in case I end up in an area like White Sands, New Mexico that doesn't have any Superchargers. If you're not traveling to areas like that, I wouldn't worry about it.
Hope that helps! Let me know if you have any other questions. I did do this video that goes into each charging option. czcams.com/video/qBryyb65AIU/video.html
@@bryanhauer thank you!!! And to think I was spun up on all-things-Tesla… I didn’t realize the CCS adapter brought that capability. Great video as always!
@@nickruns262 Oh and here's a video I did previously on charging with the CCS adapter if you're interested: czcams.com/video/jzOoh-_yCQ8/video.html
Do you ever get your full 300 miles. ? Or less
My Model Y is rated for 326 miles, but at 100%, I usually get around 305 and sometimes a bit less depending on weather or terrain. Obviously I get less with a cargo box, but the rear one is only a 5% loss vs 35% with the rooftop box. Hope that helps 😀
Hey Bryan,
How did you disable the parking sensor chimes?
It drives me nuts every time I attach the bike rack to my model 3.
Thanks!
Quick Controls --> Safety and toggle off Park Assist Chimes. No more bumper alarms 😀
@@bryanhauer Hah! There you go... I've had the car for two years and never knew this option exists. Thanks, Bryan, you've made my day.
@@solofreelancer A viewer last week actually alerted me to it so right there with ya 😜 I turn them back on when I take the rear hitch cargo box off.
Hi Bryan, watching from Vancouver Canada, do you have a review of your rear cargo box, how does it compare with roof cargo carrier?
The review will be out on Tue or Wed this week. I like the rear box much better. Easier to access, less noise, better range by a lot (5% loss vs 30%) and I can cook on top of it 😀
Tesla Supercharge is more expensive than I thought but is still less expensive than average gasoline?
Lots of electric companies in cities recently raised prices. Most of the ones on the side of the interstate especially out west aren’t usually very expensive. Most of those you can charge up for less than $15, but some have gone up. Since the new year I’ve seen the prices go back down a bit and this was filmed just before New Year’s Eve.
What is that tiny thing dangling on your windshield? Mic?
That's my road camera.
@@bryanhauer Wow, it so tiny
It's the DJI Osmo Action.
I thought your car is a long rage. Why are you only getting ~150miles on a 90% charge?
I do have a MYLR. Where did you see 150 miles on 90% charge? I just skimmed the video and didn't see that, but I might have missed it. I usually get around 250-270 with the cargo box on. If there are times that it's lower, it's usually due to mountains, cold weather or heavy wind, but I'd typically get more than that. I also was driving over 80 mph in some of this stretch which will kill the battery. Let me know which party and I'll take a look. Thanks.
And now tesla is opening up part of the charging network to non-tesla EVs. It is going to be bad for the tesla owners if tesla doesn’t build more charging stations. I bought tesla because of the exclusive and extended charging network and it’s not so ‘exclusive’ anymore.
Yep. That's one of their biggest strengths over other EV manufacturers... the largest, more reliable charing network. My hope is they roll it out very slow with mainly rural/interstate Superchargers that are less busy, but only time will tell.
@@bryanhauer at the same time, I hope they would build more charging stations between Las Vegas to Grand Canyon national park. With the Model 3 RWD, I am fearful to drive to Grand Canyon as no / or not many tesla or EA charging stations on that route.
11.10$ after only going 78 miles, that seems expensive.
By my math, my 19MPG car costs 15 cents per mile in gas. Which is nearly the same
Looks like your 3rd charging stop after 89 miles cost $13.90 which is also roughly 15 cents per mile
I know charging is much cheaper at home but damn I thought super chargers were atleast only 50% the cost of fuel
You’re not understanding how it works. I’m not filling up each time. I’m only charging till the car has enough to get to the next destination. Your numbers are meaningless. Only comparison is kWh vs MPG.
@@bryanhauer you are paying $11 after going 78 miles, yes I get that you are not charging to 100% everytime but how is my comparison meaningless?
What is your cost per mile on average when using superchargers?
Ok. Let's first start with that the vast majority of people will charge 95% of the time at home (similar to how you charge your phone). You drive to work and around your city all day and then when you get home at night you plug it in (which btw is way more convenient than going to a gas station). In Nashville I pay around $0.09/kWh and even less at my place in Vegas. The Model Y's battery is 75 kWh. That means that for almost everyone (depending on your utility company), you're paying around $6.75 to charge up your car from 0-100%. At my previous place in Vegas we had solar that 100% powered all charging so there it was free and when I stay at hotels with destination charging it's free there too.
Now when it comes to Superchargers for road trips, the average cost is around $0.25/kWh nationally with an average time of around 15-20 minutes. Now there are other factors that will play into this based on location, time of day and how long you charge due to available speeds which can be affected by others charging on the same stall number if you're using 150kW chargers and lower, (level 3 250kW Superchargers operate independently) but $0.25 is the national average. That's around $18.75 to go from 0-100%. Now that's not a perfect science again because many of the Superchargers (depending on location as some of these rates are set by local govt or power companies) charge different rates for different speeds and for different time of day. You can view these rates on-screen by tapping the Supercharger icon.
After 19 months and over 50k miles, I'd say my average Supercharger session costs around $17 (I'm not always full charging), but as I previously mentioned in your first comment you were referencing it like a gas car where you'd fill up and I wasn't so stating the amount of miles was irrelevant in that context. What matters is the amount you're paying per kWh.
I haven't seen any new, luxury SUV's that you can fill up with gas for those prices. I'm in no way against gas cars either and will likely buy a Sprinter van soon for off-road adventures as there aren't any good options of EV's yet.
I hope that helps clear things up.
@@bryanhauer Thank you for the response, you were correct I was misinterpreting the info in your video. according to google the model 3 long range gets on average 4.5 miles per kWh and at 25 cents per kilowatt hour from super chargers that is only 5 cents per mile vs my car being 15 cents per mile.
That sounds a lot more like I was expecting.
Good video, I did end up watching the entire thing
All good 👍 I could have worded it better than saying your numbers are meaningless. I meant it in a joking way, but that doesn’t always translate to text. My apologies 😀