NEW ERA - The Re-Engined Boeing 757
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- As Boeing ceased production on its 757 in 2004, the industry evolved, and the middle of the market sector grew. However, Boeing went without an adequate replacement for the type. There was discussion surrounding a re-engine of the 757 and reintroduction of a beloved aircraft type. But would it make sense, and what are the plane makers' strategy currently?
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Many years ago, took off out of SFO on a half-filled 757, thing took off like a rocket, quite exhilarating. Had a smile on my face.
I, like many, luv the 757. The flying pencil is still a nice ride, and gets up in the air fast, with those stellar engines.
And the 757 has amazing braking capacity, can use relatively short runways
I think Boeing really dropped the ball on failure to come up with a replacement for the 757/767. Judging from the increased sales of the A321 airlines have given up on an exact replacement for the 757 and moved on.
The A321 XLR is not a replacement for the 757. It's just closer than other planes.
Substitute is the correct word.
Agreed. It can mostly match the range or capacity. But cannot do both.
@@bmused55 And it doesn't have the high temp, high altitude ability, nor does it have the short takeoff ability.
The A321 also has less cargo capacity.
Couldn’t have said it better myself. 💯
Nothing replaces the Mighty 757s!
Boeing should have still stuck with the NMA and based it on a Lithium Aluminum alloy (like the A220 fuselage) and carbon fiber raked wings. It would be single aisle and be slightly longer than the 757-200 but not as long as the 300. That would be an extremely versatile and durable plane that could have incredible range, be exceptionally light, and be able to take off from short runways.
Is this more dopey Canadian talk?
@@dhardy6654 my somebody has an anger problem.
Ive flown on 57's from atlanta to denver many times. I loved flying on them. That route is all 320's and 37's now. Sad to see them go.
First class passenger, huh ?
Boeing should build a 757 replacement based on the Dreamliner. Single aisle and composite materials. Make it slightly wider than the old 757. Keep the high altitude, hot climate, and short take off abilities. It would have longer range and better efficiency than the A321 XLR.
The airlines that see and use the value of the 757 are keeping them in the air despite being over 20 years old. Delta alone would buy plenty of this new plane.
Awesome idea :-)
The slightly larger 757 is the 767. Both planes came along the same time in early 80's
@@dakotarobert7975 The 767 is a twin aisle jet. It's more than a little wider. I'm talking about inches wider like the A320 is. Go that wide or a bit wider.
737 cabin width for new build 757 would allow existing tooling to be used.
She's a work horse!
You have to give Boeing huge credit for the airlines that hold respect for the Brand!
I guess the Boeing 757 was just ahead of its time
Totally agree with you.
Even today , the A321 Neo can't mach the B757-300 autonomy neither the capacity. Today Boeing its working on a stretch version of the Boeing 737 Max called B737-9 and B737-10
If they do make an updated 757, hopefully they'll still put wide body engines on it like the rb211s. The power is what made me fall in love with the 757
From a casual bystander it seems they should've updated 20 years ago. It seems they have 3 options, shrink the 787, make a 737-10 Max Max or start afresh. Judging by their recent record, whichever way they choose, it's going to be a long, long time.
I live in Raleigh NC. Delta flew a non-stop from here to Paris with a 757. Such a versatile aircraft Boeing decided to throw away rather than evolve and eventually replace with the NMA. Now they have nothing.
The rebirth of the 757 would definitely make the 321 tremble. It's totally possible for a come back, all the tech is there and believe me it will be a grand slam....Go Boeing
I quite agree
In an alternate universe maybe airlines that still want the 757 could buy the rights and licenses from Boeing to produce them and team up or sell it as a contract to an aircraft manufacturer that could perhaps re-engineer a new improved 757. For example the DHC-6 program was sold to Viking aircraft and to this day the aircraft is still in production with improvements. It could be done however the cost vs value and powerplant still becomes a question.
Aircraft manufacturers are generally not allowed to also participate in air transportation activities. I would presume this also flows the other direction.
For example, the Boeing Dreamlifter 747s are not operated by Boeing, but by Atlas Air.
Boeing ceased production of the phenomenal and versatile 757 in favor of the older, more limited 737 in large part to ensure Southwest remained an exclusive Boeing client. That was a massive mistake and it eventually led to the 737 Max debacle. Boeing is led by accountants and the engineers are handcuffed. Boeing was once a great company, but now Airbus is more innovative and has a better sense of what airlines and passengers want. A true shame.
Ty dj!!
If you are going to make an X version of a legacy aircraft, you use the 767 which is still in production as a freighter and the KC46. The freighter keeping the 300 tube and the KC46 based on the 767-200ER with same wing as the 300.
Taking it further, the 787-8 is almost complete on orders and deliveries. Boeing has talked about making the 787-9 and 787-10 as HGW models to increase range. Since the 787-8 is now an old model, make a 787-8X as the next generation of the 787 but make it lighter weight with a 6000nm range.
The 767 is a wide body aircraft.
why would you need a new 767 Boeing has the 787
The midsize aircraft can be a small widebody aircraft. It doesn't have to be a narrowbody. As a matter of fact, with the Max 10 about to start rolling out, Boeing's offer should be a small widebody, something similar to what they were going to do with the 787-3, but with less expensive lightweight materials than carbon fiber. This aircraft would be a game changer in that sector.
@@Dingusdongusok
True, I completed my X variant ideas with looking at the next generation of the 787-8 which has few orders and deliveries.
My point is you have existing production with the 767 and 787 that can be used to evolve rather than resurrecting models that have been dead for 20 plus years.
Somewhere in the early 2000's, The US transformed from a country of innovation to a country of supplementation. Clean-sheet modernity is often too frightening to large companies here, and instead there is more of a lengthening of an often outdated proflduct, or buying up of the competition. Whichever is cheaper.
I have seen all of your videos and enjoy them. That being said, I am a huge Boeing fan.and have always agreed to be “if it’s not Boeing. I ain’t going. That being said, whatever is happening currently is not acceptable. This is a product that millions of people each year put their faith and future in and they deserve to know that the aircraft they are boarding is as advanced and assembled as perfectly possible. I’m a huge fan of the company and collect commercial aircraft models. I truly hope that management wakes up and straightens out the problems before it is too late.
Loved the plane.........but i guess it's onward and upward.Go Boeing !
Eastern was the launch customer!
I would love to see them make a max version of the 757.
I’m sure Boeing has been discussing this for the last 2 decades. Would a 757 max be nice. Yes, but I believe there are other issues with the plane other than just re-engine it
Certainly other issues, but that is true of any airframe originally designed decades ago (737 anyone?). Boeing dropped the ball on not upgrading the 757. Its high density altitude and short field performance plus its range and capacity made it a no-brainer for an upgrade. The McDonnell-Douglas merger really screwed up Boeing’s executive-level decision making.
@@Primus54 I agree about the merger, and I’m not arguing about the merit of the 757, making a max 757 I think Boeing will be watched very closely since they have had issues with the 737 max. Adopt the 787 wing design and engines and the 757 could be a no brainer for many airlines. I’m sure the range would kill the A321 LR and XLR.
@@tonyferdaise5292 Agreed. Cheers!
Production has been shut down for almost twenty years. It would probably cost more to restart it than to design a whole new aircraft with modern efficient construction techniques.
Boeing needs to bring this aircraft back. Its loved ny many passangers,, pilots and airlines. If airbus can make the A 321 neo XLR then im sure boeing can do somethimg where the 757 for narrow body is somewhat long haul already, now put the engines of the 321 XLR or soemthing similar to those to a new version of a 757. The potential for the newer and remade 757 could go longer then an 321 XlR becauae its already somewhat long range
"Discussion" regarding a re-engine program for the 757 ends very quickly these days, because there is nothing available in the required thrust range, with the high-efficiency feature of a by-pass ratio above 9 to 1. Re-engine programs are always done with an existing engine. It is true that the A321 is not a true 757 replacement. No other aircraft can do all of (1) heavy lift with huge wing, (2) hot and high departures, (3) short-field take-offs, and (4) long+thin routes. Capacity-wise, the long 737-10 and A321XLR are able to do most of the passenger traffic a 757 can solve, from most of the popular airports. None of these require capabilities (1), (2) or (3). The upshot is, although it would be nice to have uprated efficiency on the 757, the cost of an up-rated turbofan program could not be covered without orders, basically, for ALL of the 757s still flying. I would like something wonderful to happen, but the economic reality makes me extra-ordinarily agnostic about long odds.
They are not going to restart the production of the 757s. Hard to imagine there is a market for re-engined current planes. The DC-8 had a post-production re-engined variant. But that started a decade after the end of production of the DC-8. Not the two decades for the 757. And McDonnell Douglas was not heavily involved in the re-engining of the DC-8. Doubtful Boeing, itself, would devote anything towards it for the 757.
People just don't seem to understand the complexity of restarting the production of an aircraft type, years later. Tooling, supply chain, engineering, manufacturing facilities and personnel. And it would have to be re-certified. Boeing would be better off investing in a new aircraft.
exactly. 757 tooling was deliberately destroyed for 737 space / rumors about pushing customers that way. You can’t re-engine & restart production on a plane with all the specialist tooling gone.
They re-engined the DC-8-70 series, they can re-engine a 757
Using what engine? There isn't one to use? And why build a new engine for an airframe that stopped production 20 years ago, and most 757s still flying are 25 + years old. Not a solid business proposition!
I re-engined 757 would be great for the mid market segment plus it could compete with the a321 XLR
No, it wouldn’t. It’s very outdated by this point not going to happen anyway.
It would make far more sense and be easier for Boeing to just produce a clean sheet plane than re-engine the 757 and start up that line again. This has already been covered many times on all the aviation channels. Nothing new in this video.
Where there is an engine you could re-engine the 757 with now, this was not the case in the early 2000's. And I'm sure I read somewhere than the engine manufacturers did not want to develop one for just the 757. The latest engines at the time were either too small or far too large.
Also, no one was ordering 757s anymore as those who needed it, had it.
Should Boeing have kept the engine running and worked on an upgraded 757? Well, with hindsight we can say yes. It was only shortly after production ceased that Airlines started using their 757s to their full potential, airlines started using them on long, thing, point to point routes. As a result any that went up for sale were snapped up quickly.
Boeing couldn't have known that would happen. They made a decision that made sense at the time.
The A321 was also never a true competitor or replacement. It never had the ability to match the range AND payload of the 757 combined.
The XLR has gotten close, but still isn't a 1:1 replacement. It's an alternative, as in "the nearest".
Maybe the cargo market would like to entertain this. As for the passenger carriers they've all fallen for the XLR.
The 757 is a great airplane. The only problem is that it cannot handle standard luggage containers
I love the flying pencil.
Just one question. Why did they ever stop making it. The 747 grew and stayed flying for something like 40 years or more
Hi, not meaning to repeat what has been said, but Boeing had been busy fixing major issues with the 779 &738Maxs. Remember, a NEO is not the only issue; body weight, and engine options would need some serious thinking and effort. Disregard Airbus in the conversation and look at eh 737-9,-10's. Even the body structure/weight of these variants of 737s are not ideal for modern aviation, so one would need quite a lot of engineering and study. Maybe Boeing is right, wait until the 2030's and see what's hot and new then.
Boeing should never have scrapped the 757's tooling, How they have pushed on with the 737 is beyond me, It just looks old and ugly with it's 1960's nose, The 757 is better and more modern looking and has great ground clearance for current engines.
Boeing, leading from the rear!
No chance 757 is done To think is just wild speculation. Boring only recently announced the “797” project was being abandoned
The 737 757 cabin diameter is just too small for American supersize population. I used to be skinny, now 215#.
The will just grease you up.
They should 757 x new engine
737 MAX-10 LR/ER seems like the easiest way to compete against the A321.
Good point. A stretched 737 variant with a wider fuselage. However, I thought that was what the 737-10 was supposed to be. Boeing dismally fumbled the ball.
@@RN-DNP 737-10 was ONLY a modest stretch over the -9 to compete with the standard A321-NEO, not the LR or XLR. They can't do a 737-10 LR or ER without major mods to the main landing and nose gear so it could take the bigger Leap 1A engines. That would also require costly mods to the wing box and empennage; Boeing surely decided that the nearly $2 billion development cost for just one derivative wasn't worth it.
I never understood why Boeing couldn't just pursue a MAX variant of the 757. it seems like a no brainer with how successful the current one is and how many airlines are still using it. now airlines that want to replace it like united re going with the NEOs or the XLR variants
did you not watch the video? its explained quite clearly.
@@cplchanb what hes talking about is simply a slightly revised version of the 757 with new engines im talking about a new MAX variant built from the ground up and im wondering why Boeing didn't pursue that earlier like around the time they were developing the 737 MAX
Well Boeing now is McDonald/Douglas. Just like Sears Co. With the merger n acquisition comes lot of Greed for the Boeing properties. Therefore, by the time the ideas of a 757 Max comes around there was no long the ideal location to do.
Edge funds managers are about quick money schemes with no future in sight. Now we got real competition with China C919 is the replament for the 757. Just like I predicted in 1990 that the Airbus would out do Boeing's domination. Changed leadership to properly do the math to forecast the market was long gone to the dumpster.
@@dakotarobert7975 so you really think Boeing as a company is on a permanent decline? ive honestly never thought of that. I always thought that this was just some slight incompetence but thats very interesting the idea that airbus would one day completely overtake boeing
@alexh2665
It was pretty obvious by 1991, when the hastile take-over by McDonnell/Douglas, while the management (Condit) was sleeping. MDD went as far as publicly trying to merger with Airbus did NOT go for it. American Visionaries like Bill Boeing, Juan Trippe, Douglas, Howard Hughes were long gone and replaced with money managers merger n acquisitions. These folks have no innovative ideas but money money as they shreed everything on site.
They should have just made a 787-7 and 787-6
Say you are Boeing and you have to choose between renewing a model for 500+ orders (757) compared to thousands of them achieved by a smaller plane available in different sizes (737).......who's gonna choose the riskier choice
The supported truss wing Boeing that's under development could be a worthy 737 and 757 replacement.
Boeing is building KC-46 which is pretty much a military B762.
They should build a civilian version.
Looking at its specs it was listed as;
174 - 3 class
214 - 2 class
245 - 1 class
Great cruise speed and 3,900nm range.
Simple fix for a 752 replacement!
B767-8??
The problem IS there are now new twin engine airline available in the market with more passengers and longer distance directly all over the globe I don't think Boeing must invest in B757 as they already build new B777 as replacement for smaller planes
well... they could go with composite material wings... that would be lighter. however they didnt make it so long that makes no sense to start now. i mean 757 not composite wings
Should have replaced the 757 and 737 with a composite tube and wing a long time ago.
Before Boeing decides on the next step to fill the void left by retiring 75s, they need to re-jig the management team.
We can all point at why Boeing have so far it would seem to not opt for a Competitor in the Niche A321 Airbus Product but to Reconnect with the 757-300 Version which would be about the size required is neither here nor there, Boeing said they had scraped the Tooling for the 757 long ago so where does that leave us, For those still in service Engine Upgrades seem to be an Answer but that could lead to Wing Structural Enhancements.
It ultimately points to a New Version of The 757 some are saying, Did Boeing not see in its Forecasting that Airbus would do this.
Shoot yourselves in the foot guys if you Didn't.
So where to and back to that Question, Is their Once 737-7 and 737-10 are Certified could we see a 737-11 to match the Airbus Airbus A321XLR.
Hmmm, Interesting times ahead at Boeing.
Until the next PW2000G or UltraFan engine with around 30k-40k lbs of thrust
PW1000G is already rated for up to 35k lbs thrust. So if all you need is 40k, it probably would be just a derivative of that
@@cedricfranzen8558 PW1135G wouldn't enough to power upcoming 757
Can’t resist: First!
Would better using the 767x to compete against the a330
Boeing already has the 787 to do that
Why would anyone try to compete against an A330? 34 Orders in the last 5 years...
The 787 already took out the A330 for most purposes
The 787 already took out the 330NEO as a competitor
@@andrewdrone
And the A330neo is partly why Boeing is still struggling to break even on the 787, offering cheap competition which Boeing is obliged to compete with, when the A350 was in profit years ago...........
i bet boeing is going to make a max10 ULR or sth like that
Boeing should've upgraded the 757 as it did with the 737. Instead, the airplane manufacturing giant wallowed in complacency and greed. Now, they're reaping what they sewn. Meanwhile, the A321XLR is poised to dominate. I've traveled on the 757 and the A321. Personally, I prefer the former, so I agree wholeheartedly with the sentiment that Boeing should've stuck with its NMA project. Well, "hindsight is always twenty-twenty." Everyone, stay safe.
Boeing did successfully make SEVERAL their original designs , even better with certain improvements... However, they need to be careful of avoiding overly ambitious / unrealistic delivery dates , of these programs..
Case in point : The overly ambitious/unrealistic delivery dates of the 737 MAX..... Apparently, that plane was specifically created to compete with the Airbus A321NEO, and Boeing expedited the design improvements to allow pilots of the earlier types of 737's, to operate the newer , more powerful , heavier, longer planes (737 MAX) by using a digital device, something called the MCAS system, that none of the pilots were properly trained how to defeat, in case it developed problems....
This video suggests that Boeing wants to replace the original 757 designs with "something that is ground-breaking" .... Hopefully, for Boeing's sake, they won't choose those words to describe their new design proposals ..
I always thought the decision to discontinue the 757, fundamentally flawed. Indicative of a clear lack of board room vision. Something that continues to cost Boeing billions. One wonders how long Boeing will last into the 21st century?
I think that Boeing should rush a small production of a re-engined and modernized 757 into production short term. Refusing to surrender the market to Airbus, while being in position to build the new Air Force 2. (Do they really want a future Vice President flying in an Airbus plane?) All while working on a vastly improved game changing aircraft for the future. Long range and higher speeds seem to synergize. Wing in body, reduced sonic shockwave as well as non-afterburning super cruising engines. Could redefine long distance air travel worldwide. If only someone at Boeing had vision?
Even with all the mentioned updates, the airplane hull itself will still be minimum 19-20 years old.
It's doubtful the cost would be palatable for many airlines.
their culture on continuously re-engining old airframes and harkening back to the good ol days is their downfall.
Well they sell a crapload of those that you reference. Apparently you are not paying attention to any of that.
757 & 767 are same type rating
so why not
757X & 787
There is no equivalent replacement for the 757-300. This is a gap that both manufacturers have. Ultra long range narrow bodies is nothing new (737-700ER).
A true NMA game changer will be a wide body that can fit into a narrow body gate at the airport.
Only 55 units of 757-300 were sold. 90% of them are in possession of 3 airlines: Condor, Delta, United.
@hakanevin8545 those -300s are gold!
@@iceman9678 Exactly. Gold is valuable for a reason: Available in little amounts.
i think bring 757 back to production will be very costly, repreparing manufactures to build 757, re-engineering aircraft like wings, engines, cabins, etc... speaking of engines, the currant engines doesn't have the similar thrust of the current 757, so it will took a years to engineering, testing, and getting a certification for engines, as long it will costly solution, building a new aircraft from scratch is more worthy and secure for long term of program, re-engineering aircraft is possible if the current aircraft is already in production like 777, 737 and A330
It’s called the 737 Max 10
Boeing actually did consider to re-engine the 757 in the early 2000s but they didn't do that because one of the few reasons is actually very simple.
It's the A320's fault. I am actually not joking.
If you don't believe me, there is a video from Coby Explanes that covers Boeing's economic decision for not building the 757max.
Best airplane I had the opportunity to earn a living flying. Different story for those riding in the cabin. I had a Boeing engineer with experience in 757 program explain to me ( at my request) what a dismal air conditioning system they had engineered. Noisy, drafty, bone chilling, experience for pax. He verified this. Unrivaled performance in its category, I never encountered a situation where it was weight restricted, except when maintenance induced. Need more fuel for today’s flight? Put it on… captain’s dream. Time for a new design.
Not gonna happen they got all there resources in the 737 program witch has the same fuselage cross as the 757 it just doesn't have the tall gear or large wing for the fuel heck I'd rather see them bring back the 727 it looked better than the 737 and with the new engines out there you could probably just put 2 on it or widen it a bit and it would look like a fat MD 80
A new 757 variant is not going to happen. It’s not too late for Boeing to enter the market though. The a321neo and xlr proves there is a huge market for that kind of plane. Would it be best to be first? Yes. But being the first doesn’t mean you can’t enter the market later. That’s pretty much what Airbus did with every plane.
I think it is safe to say that Boeing is history, for now
what engine? the GEnx is too big with the smallest one at 69,800 lbf, way too high. The LEAP 1 tops out at 32k lbf, low to be interesting. Also, the 757 is an old airframe. There would have to be a new wing. No real point of a 124ft wing which is larger than Code D limit of 118, so if its going to need a Code E gate, can go a large as 170, but I am not sure how many airports have Code E gates vs, Code D and F?
I can see using the 757 landing gear, but new wing, low-weight fuselage.
What might be interesting is a single engine GEnx or GE9X
Boeing ended up being like Kodak. They sat on their laurels, and got passed by, by airbus. It makes them look extremely incompetant!
At its release 757 and 767 actually shared a type certification. One pilot could fly both planes . And there lies the problem , with 767 aging out airline dont want to spend d the money traing a small number of pilots to keep the certification current. The 737 10 actually was and is the replacement for the 757. Why. The fuselage is the same diameter and you can get just about identical passengers loads between the two airframes. With engins prefromance increasing almost yearly new material that ix lighter and stronger itz really pointless to re-engine the 757.. let the 727-400 fly off into the sunset . Boeing has nailed it with the trifecta 737 , 787 , 777.
Speculation... you cant beat a dead horse
Forget the 757 ... it has GONE
The tooling is all gone. Starting up the program would be like starting with a clean sheet design all over.
@ryanthomas887
Really? How do you actually know that? Many times mfrs store tooling and dies like this for decades for just this type of reason, long range thinking.
@@horseathalt7308It's been well-known up here in Boeing-land that the tooling/jigs/dies/etc. for the 757 were destroyed shortly after the last airframe rolled off the assembly line.
@@horseathalt7308 when recently has Boeing demonstrated good long range thinking?
@@ryanthomas887 Of course they haven't in many years, but major past projects assets are retained and stored on Boeing properties for many decades, even as CEOs and BoD come and go. For any given project tool and dies are kept if for nothing else than limited runs of replacement parts for customers, and unlike the auto mfrs there is no set limit for the number of years that items are produced. I wouldn't be surprised if all those necessary items are in storage and in pristine condition as well.
I believe Boeing should re-engine and remake the Boeing 757 in a way it should be made entirely of carbon composite materials like the Boeing 787 Dreamliner.
If they made the Boeing 777X, they could make the Boeing 757X.
It's still too early to throw away these beautiful jet planes since 1982.
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So many videos on a 45 year old aircraft. It is a shame that many of those engineers who developed that aircraft are either dead or in the home. None today seem to be able to move aviation beyond what it was 50 years ago with them still mootching off of 50 and 60 year old designs. The market no longer asks for high powered hotrods. They want the most efficient jetliners available which does not put a premium on high performance aircraft. In fact, it puts a premium on the slowest most efficient planes possible. The a321 lr and xlr will take 2 hours longer than either a wide body or a 757. Completely annoying since you are already flying on a small cramped aircraft in the A321.
The 757 compared to the A321 is a Lardy fat tub weighing over nine tons more than the Airbus, a weight difference that cannot be overcome, Boeing very quickly recognised that and walked away from looking further at any 757 update, its that simple.
321 the difernce of Airbus A321 and the 737 is that the A321 isnt the relacemt
The 757 production ended 20 years ago. It is dead and buried, as far as new production is concerned. Why do some people keep bringing this up? I would rather see a new aircraft based on the 767 fuselage, as there is still a production line for those.
I feel Boeing needs to semi re-design the 757. I feel they could do a great job on just enhancing the existing aircraft.
The airframes are cycling out for passenger service. A re-engine won’t do anything. They need a new airframe. Period.
DJ loves any opportunity to talk about the A321. We already saw a similar video just the other day.
The fact of the matter is, the market changed during the pandemic, and that actually lines up with when demand for the A321 increased. When Boeing stopped the 757, there was relatively little demand for the A321co as well.
We all agree that Boeing should have produced a stop gap aircraft pending the creation of a clean sheet design. Arguably, a clean sheet design was the right idea to replace the 757. Unfortunately, with all their misfortunes regarding the Max, 787 and 777X, pretty much their entire line of commercial aircraft, it made financial sense to focus on what they have instead of what they want.
DJ needs to find an interesting topic to talk about. Let's stop beating this dead horse. For every 757, there's a 787, just as for every A321neo there's an A330neo, but we won't hear too much about that
He makes a living out of these videos. Whatever empty subject he is talking about, he makes you watch, right?
@@hakanevin8545 True story.
Boeing had a NMA program with lot of the design done, no need to use the 757 airframe. Covid and 737MAX killed the program.
There was no need to rehash this very tired topic by now. It’s not happening and we have known that for years now.
Buzzkill.
For a plane that production stopped almost 20 years ago, you made a video of almost 10,minutes, what was the purpose? I lost you after hearing 757 for the 30th time.
Here's the problem. The 757 is too niche of an aircraft. Even it is rarely used in the full capacity it was designed to be. Furthermore, the 737 and A321 can cover 95%+ of the 757's mission. It's my favorite airliner, but there just isn't a space that the 75 can call its own anymore. The -300 is a bean counters wet dream, but you dont want to be in the last row of one when it arrives late and you have a close connection. 😂
Who wants to fly 8rs on a single aisle? no thanks...
Boeing destroyed the 757 tooling so there is nothing but a clean sheet available.
Boeing needs to stop 737 Max 10 and update the 757/767
LOL. They'll call you...don't call them.
Perish the thought that Boeing would actually spend money on developing a new aircraft let’s just rehash an older model sling some different engines on it and shout out about their “new aircraft”. As long as the top dogs get paid millions why worry about new planes?
Boeing is going to rely on the 737 to fund them while they make more of the 777x so they can all rot for a while until certification can happen and eventually they will start actually delivering them. After that, they will make the 797
boeing doezn't have the money after the 737, 787, and 777 disasters.....that's why nma was cancelled.
To compare a 757 to a 321 is nonsense. The 757 IMO was in a large part designed to provide hot and high and short field performance. Think UAL and DEN or DCA for any airline. Neither capability lends itself to high end economy. Look at the landing gear, the 321 can't carry the same load even if it wanted to. The 757 can't be a fuel efficient, it is a rocket ship. Old school BA. I remember being in the tower at BOS watching departures one day, 747s were airborne much sooner than much smaller planes.
Carriers obviously don’t agree with you. Many carriers have replaced or will replace the 757 with the 321. Only 20% of the 1000 built are still in passenger service. This number will further rapidly decline as Delta and United replaces them rest of this decade.
Agreed - sadly 321neos are rapidly taking routes that were once 757 or even 739er at DL for premium routes that warrant a step a*bove* the A221/223
For the very reasons I stated.@@johniii8147
@@johniii8147There are over 550 Boeing 757's (including freighters) of the 1054 built, still flying currently.
@@sox-on-a-duck693 I specifically said passenger.
2023 onwards are the era of 737 Max 10, 787 Dreamliner and 777
The B757 program will not be revived by Boeing.
Jet another Boeing rehash about time they wiped the slate clean and start designing totally new aircraft.
Oh not this comment again. LOL.
@@RLTtizME Just stating a fact :)
@@r12004rewy I know I go to YT comments to get all the facts.
Always hated the 757. Much prefer the 767 and comfort level that it as a wide body brings.
The 757 is history. Move on 😉