How Reliable is the Ford 2.7 EcoBoost? | 4 Common Problems
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- In this video, Zach speaks about Ford’s 2.7 EcoBoost engine. He touches on the background, specs, common problems, and reliability. As always, we have tons of 2.7 EcoBoost content over on our Tuning Pro site if you are interested in learning more: tuningpro.co/ultimate-2-7-eco...
Also, here is a mod guide for the 2.7 EcoBoost: tuningpro.co/2-7-ecoboost-per...
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00:52 - 2.7 EcoBoost Background & Specs
02:59 - 2.7 EcoBoost Common Problem #1 - Carbon Buildup
04:48 - 2.7 EcoBoost Common Problem #2 - Cam Phasers
06:23 - 2.7 EcoBoost Common Problem #3 - Oil Pan
08:12 - 2.7 EcoBoost Common Problem #4 - Spark Plugs and Ignition Coils
09:20 - Ford 2.7 EcoBoost Reliability - Auta a dopravní prostředky
204K miles on my 2015 with ZERO warranty claims or mechanical failures. Really no issues to speak of, and I drive her hard! She's even tuned! I LOVE my truck!
Brick - Nice! Love hearing that from viewers. What truck do you have?
What would you look for in a new one? Would you consider the Lighting, the 2.7 or the hybrid?
@@8020Media 2015 Ford F150 FTX with 2-1/2" leveling kit, running 33's, corsa Ford performance cat-back exhaust, AFE cold air intake and a catch can. Also tuned w/SCT LiveWireTS.
@@stephendoherty8291 I would probably stick with the new generation of the 2.7L. EV's are not only ridiculous, but they're actually environmental disasters, not to mention complete scams in the first place.
@@BrickMudge That all depends on fuel costs when you replace the Truck, Remember the old V8 was likely less maintenance and even more powerful but customers dumped it in droves for a "small" V6 that had turbochargers. I would say the hybrid (or one with an even bigger battery) will be the defacto F150 for many and for those who can charge at home, feel fuel costs the most, don't use it to haul heavy stuff or travel long distances daily, the lighting will take the same share as the old (now endied) diesel until the cost drops and there as many "public" fast chargers as current gas stations (or at least everywhere they visit). Fords Focus will be on the 2.7/hybrid and Lighting going forward not the carbon spewing 3.5 (the V8 goes next)
My '19 F150 EB 2.7 just passed 37k miles, zero problems so far. I do everything with my truck-- tow, haul, carry people, and regularly take it off grid camping. I work it hard, but I maintain the snot out of it in return. Full synthetic oil, every 5k miles, with a new air filter. Gotta protect those twin hair dryers. It's a fire breathing little dragon, undoubtedly the best engine Ford has built in the last 30+ years.
Cactus - Thanks for sharing your experience! We hope the 2.7 holds up well for you!
It is a good engine. I change my oil every 5k as well it’s got about 50,000 miles so far
I have a 2019 F150 also with a 2.7 eco-boost with 187,000 miles and the only thing I had to do beside maintenance was replace the EGR tube and it was $16 plus labor.
It’s a good engine but the 5.0 is the truth
209,xxx miles on my 2016 Ford F150 Supercrew which is the 1st gen 2.7 Ecoboost. I purchased the truck new. First spark plug change was at around 125,xxx miles. It had been 91 performance tuned for a long time. It ran fine, I just decided it was over due. Shortly thereafter I went to e50 tuned, bolt ons and it is making around 125 more whp than it did stock. At 207,xxx miles I changed the ignition coils and again because I felt it was overdue. It ran no different, the original coils were still working fine. I removed the intake and cleaned the valves at around 197K too, they were pretty dirty but not like some of the horror stories I have seen. It is a sealed motor with the original timing chain and cam phasers, still has its original turbos too and still producing up to nearly 22lbs of boost on my e50 tune. I also volunteered to change the low pressure fuel pump in the tank as a precaution before going to ethanol tunes, I installed a new OEM pump and a VMP boost a pump that supplies 18V to the pump. I now change the spark plugs at around 20,xxx miles because it is recommended by just about every tuner too do so when tuned. They look new every time I change them and I am probably wasting time and money doing it so often. Only issues was a fuel tank purge valve went bad and the torque converter developed a shudder at 168K. I tow fairly often and drag race, torque converter lived a hard life. It doesn't drip a drop of anything off the motor or transmission. I have a bunch of UTUBE videos with information about my truck. Check it out if youd like. I love this truck more than any vehicle I have ever owned and there's not a close 2nd. I am looking forward to the next 200,xxx miles and if I blow it up I will install another motor and keep on trucking.
Lil 2.7 - Thanks for sharing your valuable experience and insights. Make sure to keep us posted for the next 200,000 miles!
Nearly 244k miles on my 2015 (2.7l) and no issues yet. I also.... LOVE MY TRUCK! I too plan to buy a NEW ENGINE if/when this one goes.
254,268 miles on my 2018 2.7 F150. So far only a starter had to be changed. Love my truck
Omar - Thanks for sharing your experience! Sounds like you've got a good one.
Great video. I have a 2020 Ford f150 2.7 stx with 30,000 miles. Great truck so far. Keep up the good work. Keep these videos coming for the 2.7.
Ray - We appreciate the feedback! Love hearing 2.7s performing well. We have a few 2.7 videos in the works and should be out in a couple months! Stay tuned.
I have a 2015 1st gen! 2.7 for the win!
These really are great engines, good video, very informative and to the point. We liked our first 2.7 enough that we bought another - the first being a 2015 Edge Sport with nearly 120k on it, and the second being a 2018 F-150. It is interesting to compare the two side by side, and I can definitely tell there have been several small improvements to the original design with the ‘18 model, as you noted. The 2015 is now on its first (and hopefully last) replacement oil pan, but outside of that, it’s only been preventative maintenance that it has required. It runs exceptionally well, and definitely has a bunch of punch. These 2.7’s can move a midsize SUV from nothing to 60mph in the bear 5.5 second range, they are no joke. Keep up the nice work.
Roger - We appreciate the feedback! Also, thanks for sharing your valuable hands on experience. Really goes to show the power of these 2.7s when they’ve been maintained properly.
My 2015 2.7 is my first truck and I’ve owned it for just over 6 months and I’m loving it! I’ve done two oil changes now and I have to give props to Ford for making it so easy and quick to do it yourself. The bigger plug drains the pan in seconds! And the filter on the top of the engine is awesome. I did add a catch can first thing but it hasn’t actually collected all that much oil. Hopefully that’s a good sign.
TP - Thanks for sharing your experience and congrats on the ride. Given yours is a 2015, it doesn’t have dual injection, so it may not be old enough to show signs of carbon buildup yet. However, installing a catch can is big. Keep us posted on this!
What brand of catch can did you use; JLT. I have a 2017 f150 with 49k in it.
Thanks for the video, will be ordering the 2.7 for our family ranger!
N - Glad it was helpful! Congrats on the new truck!
Thank you. Very helpful. Thanks.
Michael - Thanks for the feedback! Glad it was helpful
I have a 2019 with 100k miles. I tow regularly my 6k+ pounds boat on long trips (3-6 hours trips) so far only oil changes and my rear brakes worn out @95k miles I'm not sure why but my front ones are still 70% life left lol I'm not a Ford guy or care about brands but I am very happy how this truck has treated me so far and definitely recommend it to anyone that ask.
Gabriellee - We love hearing that. Hopefully you continue to have a good experience! Keep us posted.
The rear brakes weirdly go out faster because the traction control uses them I think. It's normal and mine went out faster too.
Very informative. I've heard from a lot of Ford techs that the service intervals are optimistic. I take the Ford recommended service intervals and divide by 2. I do my own maintenance and don't mind keeping my 2018 f150 2.7 in great running condition. I sure wish there was a drain on the differentials.
B - Thanks for sharing valuable insight. We couldn't agree more.
Double up on maintenance best advice.
Own a 2018 2.7 also with 50k miles. Zero issues but sure wish there was an easier way to change transmission oil.
2019 2nd Gen 2.7 4x4 4 door 75K miles. No issues, great truck. Gets an oil and filter change every 3500-4000 miles. Would buy with this engine again.
Matt - Thanks for sharing your experience! Love hearing that it is running well for you.
3500-4k is actually too soon, believe it or not. Change it every 5-6k. I own a 2019 2.7 myself. I am crazy anal about maintenance, but you are just wasting money any earlier. More importantly, run a high quality filter, and the correct oil.
great video
Kid - Thanks for the feedback!
Good video, thanks for all the info. On par with what my research has told me. Seems like a solid motor if you take care of it of course. Crazy to me how many people born in the 70’sish era just immediately think these are trash because they have turbos. I have a 19’ 2.7 F150 w 45k, best all around vehicle I’ve ever driven.. I love the thing. I drive it hard too. My lead foot nets me 12.5mpg when hand calculated so I must get on it lol. Hasn’t skipped a beat. Keep in mind I do 4-5k full synthetic oil changes and baby it when the trans is cold (which takes for ever to come to temp) alongside 2-5min cold start warmups I’m from Maine so fairly cold winters. Great power train over all, would definitely recommend a second gen 2.7
Omni - Thanks for the feedback and sharing your valuable first-hand experience. Keep us updated on your F150 in the future!
45,000 miles and still going strong?
Crap….
2003 f150 4.6L…. 220,000 miles …. And that’s typical…
Over build then under demand
Not … over tech, over demand and pray that everything makes it to 150,000 miles.
I’m not flame baiting … I just DO NOT like the idea of demanding race car performance out of what should be a rock solid RELIABILITY FIRST F150
12.5mpg with the 2.7? You keep that thing in sport mode and drop the hammer wherever you go?
@@gabee3464hahaha no I keep it in normal mode tbh the sport mode keeps the rpm’s too high when you let off the gas for driving all the time. It’s probably because I have a ladder rack with a 32’ and 28’ ladders. Without those I’d imagine it’d be around 15-16.
My dad got 2015 FX4 with 187K miles , ZERO issues, he did get a catch can around 25K miles and a Turbosmart. synthetic oil every 5k Miles, The Truck is on it 3rd battery and 3 set of tires all stock, and 1 set of spark plugs, Rest is all original. This thing is a beast, we also got a 2017 Tundra. that 2.7 is a lot quicker than the tundra.
Cesseal - Love hearing 2.7s performing well! Thanks for sharing your experience.
I have the exact same truck. Just passed 210k miles. I've run Amsoil since new. Change oil every 15k, oil filter every 7.5k. No problems, except for oil pan leak.
Thank you for the info
B - Thanks for the feedback! We hope it was helpful.
Mines a 2021. 2.7 Love it! XL. Best value.
Sul - Great to hear! Do you have any mods or anything on it?
I have a 2020 with the 2.7 and so far it's been a great truck. The only warranty issue I had was the backup camera which there was a recall on. Other then that there's been nothing. Not a squeak or rattle anywhere, it's just really solid. Other then wishing I could permanently disable the auto stop/start crap, I love everything about it. I think the 2.7 is an excellent engine, I have never seen any car or truck idle as smooth. I'm constantly thinking I forgot to turn off the auto start stop because when I come to a stop you just can't tell it's running unless you look at the tack needle, which appears frozen at 600 rpm. I'm loving this truck.
Great to hear your truck has been running great. There is a company called Autostop Eliminator that sells a permanent solution to keep it off. It hooks into the stop start button and essentially keeps it always turned off. Think it's like $100 bucks or so and should be a pretty easy DIY install.
@@8020Media Hey thanks for the info, I’ll definitely check it out
I have a tuner, so my auto stop is disabled now, but prior to that I was able to prevent the engine from turning off at most stoplights by just barely pushing on the brake pedal, just enough to keep from rolling. Give that a try.
I put a tuner in my truck and u can disable the auto stop start best thing i ever did to the truck!! Also its a completely different animal tuned!
I have '15 with 140K miles. Great power and fuel mileage! Only issue I have is the non-re-useable oil pan. Had it changed, it's leaking worse than ever, and now it's on national backorder. Gonna try to seal it with the ebay gasket, a new pan, and The Right Stuff silicone.
Gus - love hearing that! Thanks for sharing your experience.
Let us know how the gasket (Ebay) method works. I have a '15 F150 with 2.7 with 93,xxx miles. The oil pan is just barely seeping...but I know eventually it will need replacement.
I have the oil pan leak too. Actually it started leaking while still under warranty. I don't know why I didn't take it in. Ford really needs to do something about that. Ridiculous. Luckily I live in the country, so I park on gravel. It leaks less than a half quart between 15k mile oil change intervals (Amsoil), so it's just a nuisance. I'm not looking forward to replacing it myself, but looks inevitable.
Please let us know im at 73k no leaks yet
After 5 oil pan replacements under warranty and still having leaks I replaced it myself with the ebay gasket and the right stuff 90 min RTV and haven't had any leaks over the past few months. Lots of positive results using that gasket, just prepare for a lot of work if you have a 4WD!
Don't forget the EGR system... EGR cooler failures to be more specific. Early engines also had issues with the valve guides. Then there's the oil pump belt that's routed behind the timing chains and looks pretty bad at 100k miles. The labor estimate for oil pump belt service was around 18 hours the last I saw.
H - Thanks for sharing this insight.
2016 F-150 2.7 with 161k miles, engine feels smooth and quiet still. Bought it at 150k and have been using Valvoline Synthetic Max Life High Mileage every 5k. Swapped out the spark plugs and installed a catch can on the passenger side.
OnePoint - Keep us updated! Hopefully it gives you 100k more miles!
@@8020MediaThank you! I had the blue/white smoke on startup last winter. I've been on the new oil and we had a 40s degree day today for the first time, there was minimal smoke after a cold soak, I'm thinking the high detergents and high esther has been cleaning and conditioning the seals all year. Might not have to do the TSB for the oil feed line if it's improving this winter. We shall see.
I love my 2.7. Silent powerful, light and diesel-like torque. If it was the base engine in the mustang instead of the 4cyl, I'd buy one.
Thanks for sharing your experience! The general consensus of this engine is that they are very reliable, if maintained properly.
you forgot to mention the wet belt that can wear out quick and cloged the oil pump screen.
R - Thanks for the insight.
Just hit 25k on my 2021 F150 with the 2.7. No problems other than a rack and pinion failure. Ford covered it under warranty and other than that it's been perfect.
B - Nice! Keep us updated moving forward.
Thanks for this info, Waiting to order a new 24 Ranger with the 2.7 this fall and this review puts my mind at ease, was leaning toward the Frontier But Like the Ranger better
Chief - Thanks for the feedback! Glad you found the video helpful for your future vehicle!
It’s nice seeing these videos and comments on the reliability of the 2.7. If you listened to others you’d assume you must have a naturally aspirated V8 if you want your truck to last more then 50k miles/3 years.
Idbaylis - Thanks for the feedback. We make sure to have an unbias opinion when it comes to making these common problem and reliability videos because it helps out, you, the viewer.
I hate the internet expert crowd
Looks like they have a PCV "catch can" built into the cam cover to reduce oily vapours entering into the intake manifold further minimizing build up on the intake valves. 🙂
Robert - Thanks for sharing this valuable insight!
What years has the built in catch can
I bought a new 2016 F165 and it has 87k miles now. I have not had any of these problems you are talking about. I had to replace a $20 cylinder head temp sensor @ 69k miles. Maybe people should allow their engine to warm up for 5 minutes like I do.
Eric - Thanks for sharing your experience! Truly shows that the 2.7 EB CAN be reliable.
2018 2.7 82,000 miles. I changed plugs at 60,000 miles they still looked good. I have had one problem with the engine, the left turbo oil seal started leaking at about 70,000 miles, replaced turbo and it's not cheap. I love the motor and it's power and gas mileage. The 10-speed transmission could shift a little smoother. I hope to keep this truck till the wheels fall off.
John - Thanks for sharing your experience! Was the turbo under warranty?
I have a 2021 Edge ST with the 2.7 EcoBoost engine, 335hp. I noticed from the first that carbon builds up around the exhaust pipe trim. This indicates to me a rich mixture. Is this normal? The dealer ran the diagnostics and didn't find anything.
J - Soot on the exhaust tips is normal. You are running rich, but, unless it's excessive, this shouldn't be a huge problem.
I have a 2016 Ford f-150 2.7 Eco boost sport any recommendations on what i should do to it trying start working on it but dont know where to start
We have a video on 2.7 mods here: czcams.com/video/OAoyI3yXRKg/video.html
Give it a read but good starting place would be intake and tune.
The only potential problem i see with a gen 2 2.7 is the rubber oil pump belt behind the timing cover a ticking time bomb! You will definitely be discussing this in a video soon.
Kelt - We completely agree!
The 2021 F-150 5.0 V-8
has the SAME wet oil rubber belt!
‘19 F150 2.7 flawless. Was. Going to get a 5.0 when I ordered my ‘23, got it with a 2.7 again. I like the low 20s mpg and peppy when you need the power.
Howard - Love hearing that! The 2.7 is an amazing engine.
I would kill for low 20’s. Best i get is 16
@@Iwish4zombies stock 32” tires with 3:55 gears normal drive (I don’t baby it). I don’t know why people get differences in mpg.
@@howardriggins4010 4wd?
@@Iwish4zombies yes, sorry forgot to mention. XLT sport 302A
Stay away from the 2018+ 2.7 ecoboost. When Ford "improved" it they switched to a rubber belt INSIDE the engine to drive the oil pump. It does not last very long. I watched a tear-down video with the engine out of the truck...it was a lot of trouble to get to it with the engine removed. Might as well throw on new timing chain and cam phasers while its getting torn down for the oil pump belt. 2015 - 2017 used a chain to drive the oil pump. In the tear-down video of a 96k engine the belt was shown to be cracked and deteriorating. Before it fails it will clog the oil pump pickup with rubber chunks--starving your engine for oil. Oil pressure will look good. Either way it fails...$10k for a new engine.
I installed a passenger side catch can right away to prevent carbon buildup on my 2017 (driver's side PCV flows into the intercooler and main air filter, mitigating the need on that side). Not worth moving to 2018+ until they revise or ditch the oil pump belt.
Sean - Thanks for adding this insight.
That is advice, but it is bad advice. The second generation 2.7 has proven to be more reliable with many improvements. In fact, This motor has had an above average reliability, compared to GM, other motors. Most were mentioned in the video. There is a not belt inside the engine, but most modern cars are using rubber belts. The only major concern is cam phasers, but the video is slightly misleading. The cam phaser issue seems to affect mostly 3.5L and not the 2.7. I currently own a second gen 2.7 with 115k and zero issues, outside of a EGR tube crack. I also maintain my truck and don’t follow the stupid owners manual. Fluids and filters need to be changed more often, as well as plugs.
@@calebniederhofer6529 Yeah, I've seen multiple 200K+ 2.7 F150 videos with zero issues. Trucks are expected to have major maintenance components replaced after 100K. Stuff just wears out after half a decade. I'm old enough to remember when 100K cars were considered unkeepable.
I saw a 96k rebuild video where it failed because the owner left the dipstick unsecured and oil poured out of the tube which I'd call user error.
I personally own a '15 Interceptor that I got with 119K. At 158K, the 3.7L non-EB is pulling phenomenally. Most of these "Ford" 3 liters are actually Mazda engines. There's a reason that they're getting 400K out of them without any major work other than typical maintenance (timing belts, water pumps, etc...). People just need to maintain their vehicles. The problem is that they run so smooth that it's hard to tell when they're in trouble or require servicing and that's where inexperienced car owners get themselves into trouble.
When I do have my water pump replaced, I'm going to have the timing belt and oil pump done too and anything else while she's open. That's a $3000 job, but I won't have to touch the engine for another 150K. That's a whole other lifetime on that block.
The 2018 Ford went to a second generation motor. They use a dual and port injection system. There is not carbon build up lol. These are also fantastic motors. Ford Torture tested the crap of the motor in the baha. I have seen people getting upwards of 150-200k with these motors, without major repairs. All motors and parts fail overtime. Water pump, trans, belts, can all be expected at 100k plus. Fords 2.7L has proven to be a very reliable motor, If. Maintained properly. The block is actually a graphite material. Same as the power stroke 6.7. Incredibly strong motors.
118k on my 2020 2.7 eco as of today. Nothing mechanical has failed. Spark plugs changed at 70k. Transmission fluid changed at same time(not flushed!) No leaks. Turbos sound like sewing machines on 87 but they always have. Now and then transmission will slip but honestly they all do. I will be on my 3rd set of tires probably by fall. Oh and no catch can-changed oil every 6-7k full synthetic.
B - Sounds like you've got a good one. Thanks for sharing your experience!
Does this one have the slits between the cylinders?
No that’s only for earlier 1.5, 1.6, and 2.0 i think
I know that 1.5 block was updated in 2019-2020 with slits removed
There was a free program to replace 1.5 with slits with ones without, probably have expired already.
My 2018 2.7 is on it's 5th oil pan ,two sets of catalytic converters all this in 52,000 miles .
Bobby - Sorry to hear this.. Thanks for sharing your experience. This will help future viewers!
@@8020Media thanks I still love the truck .Dealers are my biggest disappointment. Truck was in the shop for 6-7 weeks total. Ugh
Bobby - That's rough.. Never fun when your main is in the dealership for so long..
What was wrong with the oil pan?
@@stephanfiebich1561 the factory did not use a gasket to seal the pan ,just rtv. The updated or current design will accept a gasket.
I'm having an issue with my 2018 2.7. It's got 175k miles and it has an issue on the highway in 8th 9th and 10th gear at low rpms climbing small hills the engine rpms increase slightly and it makes a vibration like a rumble strip. It only lasts a couple seconds and I have changed the spark plugs. I did get a catalyst inefficiency check engine light but the vibration issue was happening long before the light came on. Not sure if this issue is engine or transmission related. Anyone know anything about this?
Jake - From the sounds of it, you may have an exhaust or fueling related issue.
2018 ford 2.7l xlt sport 4x4 80k miles.
Driver side front hub replaced at 55k
Both cat converters have failed waiting and waiting on parts. Oil pan is leaking not bad but is leaking. Rear pinion seal leaking fixed that. Black smoke on start up after 3 days of sitting. White smoke on daily cold start everyone says that's normal found out it's oil and coolant leaking into driver side turbocharger. Evap code came on and went away on it's own twice. I currently have mixed feelings about this truck. The lack of motorcraft parts is the biggest problem everything's on back order. So your left with a truck you can't get fixed. Make that make sense.
Big - So sorry to hear this... It sounds like a very unfortunate situation. Supply chain issues have been occuring way too much lately, but hopefully they get them back under control. Keep us updated on this!
I'm looking at buying a 2019 tomorrow, same model. Should I stay away or what?
This is what it is like working in service Dept. on any make....been there....at least you admit it man...the worse are the Toyota and Nissan drivers that will never confess....Like I tell people....reason they have a few Mechanics at each dealership.
Got scared of cylinder deactivation issues as my ram gave up the ghost at 160 k because of it. so i ruled out ram and Chevy for that, and ruled out Ford because I don't have time to deal with constant warranty repairs. Bought a Toyota
Thoughts on running amsoil signature series
RW - There are a lot of people that swear by Amsoil, it’s a great oil if you are okay with the price point on it. A lot of people will also tell you to stick with a less expensive full synthetic so just depends on willingness to pay for it. Just don’t extend your oil change intervals because you’re using Amsoil, make sure you are still doing every 5k or less. Alternatively you can use a less expensive synthetic and change your oil every 3k-4k if you are looking to really maximize reliability.
I just bought a 2021 F150 Lariat 2.7L EcoBoost. Are there any issues with that year that I should be aware of? It has 44000 miles on it.
None specifically with that year that we didn't address in the video. Just take care of it, change the oil every 5,000 miles (not 7.5k or 10k) and it should treat you pretty well.
Be aware of the oil pump run by a rubber belt located behind the driving chain. Cost to replace $2k in labour. Consumers have the oil pump exploding distorting the engine. Poor design
G - Thanks for adding this insight!
I’m looking at a Ford Fusion Sport with the 2.7. Any year you recommend?
E - None that come to mind.
Thank you for the great info! I have a 2019 2.7eb. What I’ve you hear about with adding a banks pedal monster or a 5 star tune? Any great improvements? Is it safe? Thank you!
Hey Dave - we have a guide on mods for the 2.7 EcoBoost that I'll link below. The pedal monster is just a throttle sensitivity controller so I'd recommend getting a real tuner. Getting an SCT X4 with custom tunes on it from 5 Start would be a great start - or if you want to keep the budget down a little bit just get a base X$ without their custom tunes. The JB4 is also a good option and one that we recommend in our article.
tuningpro.co/2-7-ecoboost-performance-upgrades/
My second one. Purchased in 2020. Love the engine plenty of power, torque and great mileage. The issues with these can be avoided for the most part by, using good gas all the time. Change your oil at 5K and put a clean a/f on every year. Mine have been trouble free, literally no issues. Most issues come from abuse, and with any engine if you beat them, you will have issues.
HD - Spot on. Thanks for adding this insight and experience! Glad to hear that you have had some solid 2.7 EB's. Maintaining is key and it sounds like you've got it down!
Just got a 2019. What are you seeing for highway/average mileage?
@@TheMarpalm Ave on the highway, always to date 24-26 mpg. And that is as long as you stay below 70 mph. If you are out west the Speed Limit 80. Your mileage will reflect that.
@@hdvictoryford5329 thanks!
The 2.7 is all I’ve ever had never had any issues. It’s the best ford makes. Peace.
P - Thanks for sharing your experience!
I had a 2019 F150 2.7 and it was nothing but problems. Left me stuck on the side of the road when the truck went into limp mode. 11k and had to be towed to the nearest Ford dealer. Turns out it was a faulty temperature sensor that they had to remove the intake manifold to get to. Got the truck back and it broke down on my way home (same problem). After that at about 14k a fuel ejector broke and was pumping gas into the engine compartment and caused me to need another tow to the dealer. I also had a water leak into the cab of the truck, which was caused by a leaky vent in the back of the cab. They had to take the box off of my frame to get to the vent and I had lost my truck for over a month while this was being done.
Cliff - Sorry to hear about your bad experience with your 2.7. This will help future viewers. Did you trade it in? If so, what vehicle do you have now?
Sounds like you got a lemon
You must be doing something wrong lol
I purchased a new 2018 with 2.7 EcoBoost with 10 speed automation. I've done ALL recommended services - however at 103,000 miles my 10 speed transmission had a complete failure leaving me stranded. Out of warranty by 3,000 miles, a new transmission cost me $8,407.00 - I am NOT happy about that!
Danny - So sorry to hear this.. However, thanks for taking the time to share your experience!
2016 2.7 EB here. Had the leaking oil pan 6 mos ago. The latest version of the replacement pan has a rubber gasket as part of the pan vs using Fords adhesive only on previous versions of the Pan. Did the replacement and no leaks.
Patrick - Thanks for sharing your experience!
2021 2.7L F150 4x4 (w/ resonator delete & drop in high flow filter), just hit 30k miles, averaging 22 mpg, and the thing can do it ALL. 💯🤘
Wyman - Thanks for sharing your experience!
Great info sir, how reliable is the 2.7 in Lincoln Nautilus engine?
Ktre - Thanks for the feedback! There aren’t any specific 2.7 issues with the Nautilus, aside from the ones mentioned in the video. If maintained properly, there shouldn’t be any major issues.
I’m looking at buying the f150 and I’m wanting the 3.5 how much better to how worse is the 3.5 than the 2.7
Pablo - We have a video coming out this Friday addressing this topic! It should be able to answer all the questions you have regarding the 2.7 vs 3.5 EB! Make sure to be subscribed with notifications turned on.
Got 200k on the 2015, just oil changes, breaks, and usual wear items. hopefully ill get another 200.
Josh - Nice! Thanks for sharing your experience. Keep us updated.
I’m considering buying a 2017 Lincoln continental with the 2.7L. Would that be the first generation motor as well?
Yes, the first gen was in the 2017-2020 Lincoln Continental's.
2019 2.7 owner and just had to replace the transmission.
Just under 55k miles
J - So sorry to hear that! Do you happen to know the culprit? Assuming it is being replaced under warranty.
@@8020Media yessir it is. Luckily I’m still within the power train warranty for Ford. Just made it lol.
Apparently the transmission had alot of that metallic particle buildup in the valve body. The Ford Tech told me to ignore what Ford’s recommend transmission oil change at 60k miles and do it every 25k-30k miles and I should never have that issue
Jessi - Great advice. Thanks for sharing your experience!
I got 2018 F150 3.5 with over 2873xx on it runs like new still I put AMSOIL in it best oil on the planet look it up if you don't believe me.
Allen - Love to hear that! Thanks for sharing your experience.
I believe you I has a friend his Dad was a dealer put it in his Oil,Trans Fluid Rear ends everything an he said had a 2 part Filter System change small Filter 5000 miles an big one at 10000 miles but he never changed the Oil just put Oil in Filters used an thats all so my question do you change all the Oil or just put in what Filter used im asking cause he told me it was million miles Oil............
I found a 2015 lariat with 102k miles for $22k do you think that is fairly priced?
T - Depends on how it's been maintained.
Its incredible in my Fusion Sport.. Since I am never towing, I feel as though it will last forever... Its so unstressed..
Plop - Thanks for leaving your experience with the 2.7! How many miles do you have on it?
I finally had to take it to Ford and they really put the screws to me. At 12,200 miles 2500.00 for direct injector replacement.
took them 8 days to do the work. No more Fords for me. Recently bought a used Highlander with 116000 miles on it.
to replace the f150 if I care to sell it. Toyota runs like new. No more fords for me and over the past 52 years I purchased 15, this is my last.
Michael - Sorry to hear this. That’s quite the loyalty you’ve had! Thanks for sharing your valuable insight.
What years is your Ford?
@@AndyTN64 2018. it does run much better since ford fixed it. but the cat. converter bank 2 set a code.i pulled it out and flushed it out with heavy duty oven cleaned, loads of carbon came out. works ok now.
There’s nothing good about internal rubber belts in oil period.
J - You've got a point.
Which gen does a 2017 Mkx use?
D Hill - 2016-2018 Lincoln MKX's included the first generation 2.7L EcoBoost.
@@8020MediaI have been told by several sources that the 2018 MKX has the 2nd gen. Were they wrong ?
K - Could be. Only way to tell with 100% certainty is to check the VIN. but more than likely has first gen
I’ve got 115km on my 2021 f150 with zero problems
Willy - Thanks for sharing your firsthand experience!
What is "tuning " it that makes the spark plugs only last 20k miles.
More power means more heat within the combustion chamber which wears down the spark plugs more quickly.
Kept trying to turn up the volume
On my phone.
Glade - Since this video, we have upped our audio quality. Thanks for the feedback.
My 2023 has 330 miles on it engine light has come on 3 times.once for a low voltage reading and twice for lo coolant temperature. Its currantly in shop for thermostat replacement and no parts for 8 days. This is not what i was hoping for this early in the game. Only had the truck for 2and half weeks and it sits in shop for the second time..
Jeff - So sorry to hear this.... Hopefully it is still under warranty. Albeit not an enjoyable experience at only 300 miles.. Keep us updated. Hopefully they get it right.
Probably be ok to power a sewing machine or a water well
R - Lol what
75k hard miles, royal purple every 5k miles. No issues.
T - Thanks for sharing your experience!
Had a 2017 f150 with 2.7 ecoboost.started smoking bluish gray smoke at cold start ups. 2 Ford dealers said that's normal on that year engine.i called bullshit and traded it in.never again will I buy a ford
Tony - If you don't mind us asking, how many miles did it have on it when this started? Sounds like an oil leak to us.
Lol it is normal. Just burning off condensation
@@Iwish4zombieslol he just made a mistake trading that truck
Any comments on the 2.3L ecoboost for Ranger ?
Valter - We have a video dedicated to the 2.3 that we think would be helpful: czcams.com/video/D12lmi6kYj4/video.html
I have a 2018 f150 with 35k miles. It seems "rattly" when i first start it. It does sit for a few days at a time between running. I worry about how it sits and when i drive it i only drive a mile or two and shut it off. Any insight would be great.
A - Ford considers the "rattly" sound as normal operation. But as you stated you let it sit for a few days between running and you take short trips. In essence, this isn't the most optimal driving patterns for any vehicle.
Thank you for sharing all this information
I’m currently in a state to buy a 2.7 or 3.5
both I believe needs to be from 2018 onwards as the cam phaser issue has been resolved from that model on.
I don’t row much and located in the Middle East region. Out here 2.7 is very rare and all of the hve been imported from canada or US
Reason being I prefer the whole fuel economy in the 2.7
would you suggest your input
Thanks
Gavin - Thanks for the input! We actually have a 2.7 vs 3.5 video that we think would be very beneficial. Let us know if you are looking for more information. czcams.com/video/lOHekNXClwU/video.html
Seems like buying this truck is a 50/50 gamble. Some people get 200k problem free miles and others experience every possible nightmare before they hit 50k. Was gonna get a 2019 f150 4x4 2.7 crew cab tomorrow with 36 k miles on it but now im thinking the hell with that. I can get a tacoma with only 11000 miles on it for same price and i know it will run forever.
S - Both are great. Keep us updated!
@@8020Media picked up the Tacoma today. Ford failures scared me away. It's a shame too because they are way more comfortable than the Tacoma and capable of much more with the same gas milage. But what good is it if it's constantly in the shop. In 2022 Ford lost 4 billion in warranty repairs, just imagine the trucks out of warranty added to it. Couldn't find any numbers for fiscal year 2023.
Shawn - Nice! You'll certainly be happy with it. Thanks for sharing your experience!
My 2018 2.7 12,500 miles developed a miss, new plugs no help, trying new coil. should have bought the 5.0
Let us know how the new coils work. We usually recommend changing them at the same time, but at 12,500 miles I can understand why you wouldn't. If the new coils don't work we can do our best to help you troubleshoot.
I Replaced one coil , the plug was very carbonized, was going to replace but local O Reilly did not have plug in stock , cleaned and reinstalled. I have an Innova 5610 scanner have a bunch of miss fires on different cylinders, cleared codes and ran engine between 3- 4 k rpm. The longer it ran the better it got.
I put the best plugs in recently that O reilly had NGK,s they "look" just like the motor crafts I took out.
This truck is not run hard, no towing, that may be it's problem. Thought maybe injectors may be dirty.
added Royal purple cleaner to fuel (I only use premium, hopefully always teir 1) maybe I should put Motorcrafts back in, but they are hard to find. Thanks for any suggestion, I am a retired NIASE mechanic
but I do not have experience on these newer computer controlled vehicles, but I refuse to give up trying.
Michael - I'd stick with OEM plugs and coils. If you only replaced one coil I'd recommend replacing them all first before moving on to other things.
@@8020Media Thanks for the reply, I bit the bullet and ordered 6 new Motorcraft spark plugs and coil packs, they can be hard to find right now.
The NGK plugs (5 of them appear to work ok the one fouled out by the bad coil pack is shot, even though I put a Standard brand coil to replace the defective OE coil).
No other error codes were set accept misfires.
Hope this does it. This will be my last ecoboost though.
I will post as to the outcome should have parts by next tuesday.
Michael - Please keep us posted on this. Sorry to hear about your frustrations.
The new pan is only for 18 and up
Thank you for the comment. I rewatched that portion and see that my wording wasn't great. Anyway, you are correct. Unfortunately, the press in place gasket design does not work on the older 2.7 EcoBoost engines.
@@8020Media I personally love the engine. The oil pan leak was 100% avoidable. Makes no sense.
2015 2.7 with 6speed and got 83k
Michael - Nicce! How is it holding up?
@@8020Media my favorite truck by far!! I love my set up!! So far no issues and so fun and easy to drive
Instead of spending $4-600 on removing the carbon, why not just find a nice highway and drive it when there is low traffic and set the cruise control to run the car at a constant high speed, perhaps at a slightly lower gear selection to keep the rpm slightly higher. This should burn off alot of the carbon and do the exhaust a favor. Perhaps haul something heavy in both directions to keep the engine pulling a little harder.
I drive almost all highway miles, commute 100 miles every day for work. No problems yet. My catch can is only half full when I change it every 15K miles.
Stephen - This is also a very viable option! Unfortunately, not everyone’s commute is on the highway, but this is definitely helpful insight!
@@8020Media It does not have to be a commute. Take a trip. Go somewhere you can reach in a day (so the engine-exhaust has less time to cool down). Yes it might seem a waste of fuel but tell yourself (or your reluctant passengers) you may have to spend even more if its needs a service visit. Plus a long drive allows you to check everything is working (or not) for the next warranty shop visit, see how everything works (without the pressure) and see some of your amazing countryside. Its not going to work on a longer commute route
On the '15 - 17 merely driving them will not be cleaning the back of the intake valve that always contains blow by oil vapor. A catch can can remove the oil and minimize what makes it to pass over the intake valves. '18 and beyond offers a combination direct and port injection that incorporates a bath over the intake valves keeping them clean.
@@larrybe2900 Yup, that's why I installed a catch can. I also drive with a lead foot, which I'm sure helps to minimize carbon buildup, etc. At least I ASSume so. Fingers crossed! lol!
So why doesn't direct injection cause those problems with diesels?
Intake system in gas engines is pretty much under constant vacuum so exhaust gases get drawn back past the valves. Diesels don't have vacuum within the intake system since they don't have throttle body's to help create it.
34,000 miles on my 2019 and just blew it up sitting in my blown up truck watching this video
Oh man... Sorry to hear this. Do you know the cause?
I have a 2015 2.7 and i had a turbo go out around 100,000 miles. Cost about $1,500 to replace. Other than that, no problems.
Nathan - Sorry to hear about the turbo. Thanks for sharing the experience.
@8020Media I purchased the truck new, by the way. Also, I don't think the actual turbo was bad. The turbo and wastegate are one unit, and I pretty sure the wastegate went bad. I started having issues with boost management and replacement was the diagnosed repair. It seemed to be the correct fix. Hopefully this is not a normal occurrence as I see alot of people with no issues with this engine. I also changed the oil religiously at 5000 miles.
Absolutely, this is excellent insight for future viewers!
I have a 2017 2.7. If one of the turbos got out, do you HAVE to get it replaced or you can still go on the single turbo? If yes would you just experience slower acceleration? Thank you. $1500 is a lot of money to replace a turbo, for me.
Mac - This is most certainly not advised. the 2.7 is twin-turbocharged. Therefore, without both functioning properly, it could lead to many more problems. It wouldn't be operating at optimal levels.
Zack. Please get yourself a microphone. It will present much more effectively as your current audio setup is poor. Thanks for the content otherwise
Drunkenfarmer - Since this video, we have upped our audio quality drastically. Thank you for the feedback!
I have owned two Ecoboost Fords. 2011 and now a 2019. No issues. I always used Exon 87. They put a good cleaner in the fuel. Yeah it costs more but you get what you pay for. I read many complaints about this engine. One was carbon buildup under the valves. Not mine. And dont modify this engine and you wont have problems. Stick to manufacturer specs. That engine has plenty of power stock. I towed with it.
Will - Thanks for sharing your experience! Glad you haven't experienced any problems.
PLEASE could you guys get to the issues at the get go, you could have condensed this down to 2 minutes if all of the crap was deleted.
Thomas - Thanks for the feedback. That’s why we put chapters in so you can skip ahead if you would like. We know some of our audience is interested in the background and history of the engine itself.
Yeah, definitely not the best engine to get. When I was working at a Ford dealer in NY the 2.7, 2.0, and 1.5 Ecoboosts were the worst. Always in the shop. A sales manager there had a 2.7 Ecoboost blow up in his special order F150 at 800 miles. Ford lemoned it and he never bought another vehicle. Leased an edge for his wife and drove whatever used hunks of crap we had lying around. The 1.5 and 2.0 are the best engines if you like to warp decks and heads like a set of cheap rotors. 2.0 engine failures were primarily in the Fusions, didn't see too many escapes with problems, but the bronco sport 2.0s were blowing catalytic converters in the first 10 we received. Sent black soot all over the tile in the showroom, and reeked of sulfur.
Edit: Also every ST explorer we sold came back with a blown transmission. Every single one. It got to a point where we stopped ordering them completely just so we didn't have to sell them and ultimately deal with the customers. They were always very, very upset which they should be when the vehicle costs $60k and breaks immediately.
Insult - Thanks for the valuable feedback here. We'll be doing the 2.0 EcoBoost in the near future.
@@8020Media That will be interesting. Best recommendation for anyone who owns one, buy an aftermarket thermostat that drops the operating coolant temp. From factory they run too hot for the block and head design to handle. If you do that there shouldn't be an issue.
Replaced transmission in 1.6 at 99k. Then I found out they cast slits between the cylinders for cooling. engine Timebomb waiting. Last escape transmission failure too. Funny thing is, I only see new fords on the road these days, I see zero older than 6 years.
Just traded for a Toyota. Never another Ford
@@-thirteen Ehh, I see a ton of Ford trucks around. Only SUVs that are older that I see are the 3.5 NA explorers.
@@Fin.mint. yes, I do see some f150s.
60,000 just bought certified. Blew up 2 days. I hate this dealer. They did this to me and my wife
Larretta - So sorry to hear this. Are they trying to make it right?
@8020Media yea they are putting heads and turbo on it. But I'm pretty sure they knew tht when they sold it to us at yeomans of palm bay fl. It's such a nice truck it has Mickey Thompson tires and lift. I did buy certified. But they have been dishonest and hiding from my wife and I. We work very hard and thus has been the worse experience
Sorry to hear about this experience. Glad they are at least taking care of it!
Blew up again.. 66k miles horrible dealership. They finally fixed leaking sunroof too. They scratched my truck to, sealant on my headliner. I have no idea who to talk to or wht to do.
L - wow..... i hope they make it right.
I'll take a 5.7 Hemi any day over a twin turbo. Yes, it may be faster and gas milage better but won't last as long or be as reliable as the 5.7.
The 5.7 Hemi is a great engine no doubt. The 3.5 gives it a bit more of a run for its money than the 2.7 does. But yes, the twin turbo setup gives it an additional (expensive) failure point that you won't get out of the naturally aspirated Hemi's.
@@8020Media In a couple years we probably won't have a V8 choice anyway. I'm not opposed to the turbos but the Hemi is simple in comparison and reliable plus doesn't cost a fortune as an option. The reason why the Ram has been so popular is because you get a good bang for your buck after discounts and incentives in a normal market. Bought my 21 Ram, 1 year old with 7k miles for 43k. The truck is practically new. Bighorn crew cab with decent equipment level and full bed package.
70D - We agree about V8s not being an option in new vehicles shortly. Thanks for sharing your experience on your RAM.
The 5.7 in my 2017 work truck has been through 2 cams in under 80k miles
Ian - Sorry to hear this, but thanks for sharing your experience. This helps future viewers.
I pay extra...to get a simple non turbo....no cam phasers...or direct inject...,need realibity more that hp....this is example of problems.with all the complicated..stuff...that goes with Ecoboost...
Charles - Everyone has their different needs and wants. So you're more of a 5.0 guy?
@@8020Media i own a 1.5 Ecoboost in a 2017 Escape..Recall after Recall.....yes..i am a non turbo guy...in 4 cylinder and v6 as well....Reliabity is most important thing to me and most others....after the last batch of Ecoboost problems and class action lawsuits...i thing more will concude that...the 5.0 is not all that must less in hp and torque...and fuel milieage..,,i own 4 and still have 2 Vulcan 3.0 engines...one with 264,000 in a 2005 Ford Taurus....they been bullet proof....and all combined have given less problems that the Escape...with 1.5
Charles - Thanks for sharing your experience!
Need a mic. Too quiet
Daniel - Thanks for the feedback. This was one of our first few videos. Since then, we’ve dramatically upgraded our audio. We hope this is seen!
ECHO....echo....echoes
B - For it being one of our first few videos, we know the audio quality isn’t the greatest. However, since then we have invested in microphones to improve audio quality and hope you have seen the improvement over the last year. Thanks for the feedback.
The commentator on this video is not telling you the truth regarding the faulty design on all Ford F150 eco-boost !!!
Ford engineers, Fail to properly design, the cam phaser !!!
It will cost you $2,000 to $3000 in repairs !
Avoid the eco-boost or you’re going to pay a lot of money ! 💵💵💵
Greg - We have said many times in the comments that we forgot about the phasers. Can't say we aren't telling the truth. There is NO reason for us to lie. But thanks for the insight.
Good luck finding someone to "walnut blast" your engine for $500... 😂
Removing the intake manifold takes about 15 minutes if you know what you are doing. Walnut shells cost like $25. So it's purely a labor job and should only take about 3-4 hours. Curious why you think $500 is funny.
Only the 2015-2017 owners LOL.
Lol no
Coyote
LR - lol. Some people have different opinions. Also, the 2.7 EB isn't a bad engine.
The coyote is problematic and burns oil
Never Ford. They are over engineered money pits that are hard to work on. and you will have to work on it. Ill buy 1 toyota to your 2 or 3 of fords trash. Over 20 years of trying to make cam phasers and still can't get it right.
Loving my old school non turbo non direct injected 4.0 v6 in my '22 4Runner. Toyota all the way. I find it strange that he doesn't mention all the turbo failures of these engines which are the most expensive repairs and seem to always happen just out of warranty.
@@redwoodforest3572 he didn’t mention turbo failures because if they do happen it’s rare. It’s good that a 4Runner is all you need, I’m sure it’s a beast hauling a landscape trailer and push mower around the neighborhood.
You shouldn’t listen to rumors from your moms sisters, third cousins, gardeners, brother in laws dog walker. It’s not reality
@@paulhunter9613 Rare not at all. And reality is I'm a licensed Auto Mechanic who has see this over and over again. You must be a Ford owner good luck out of warranty.
@@redwoodforest3572 almost 100k on my ecoboost out of warranty.. no problems what's so ever..
@@redwoodforest3572 lol all you experts on the Eco’s are mechanics 😝🤣
2.7 is a complete and total pile of garbage compared to the 3.5 weak as hell the old 3v engines make almost as much as a twin turbo v6 and the 2.7 is harder to work on and a rats nest of wires and a headache to perform repairs to everytime we have one come in at our dealer for anything engike related it has always been that a cylinder was down on compression and it needed a cylinder head which a complete and total pain in the ass compared to a 3,5 or 5.0 , they’re not worth the money to even repair when you can take the money you’d spend at a dealer putting a head on vs getting a new 5.0 or 3.5 they’re a total junk and should be dropped from fords engine options and left at a NA v6 ( 3.3) currently , the 5.0 or the 3.5
Logan - I think "a complete and total pile of garbage" is a little blown out of proportion. However, you made some valid points and we appreciate you taking the time to type this up.
bottom line is ford is crap period
Must be a Dodge guy
I HAVENT BOUGHT ONE YET BUT BEEN LOOKING AT 2.7 AN 3.5 ECOBOOST 5.0 IS JUNK I KNOW THIS BUT EVERY ONE I TEST DRIVE AN SALES PERSONS WITH ME I DRIVE IT LIKE I STOLE IT IF ITS GOING TO HAVE PROBLEMS YOULL FIND THEM THEN FOR SURE but this Cam Faser it cost $2500.00 to fix they had that problem on 5.4 too .........
David - It really all comes down to maintenance and what you are using it for. The 3.5, 2.7, and 5.0 are all great engines.