SNP suffers astonishing losses as Keir Starmer mops up Scotland
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 5. 07. 2024
- Newly elected Scottish Labour MPs are already looking to the Holyrood elections, where they'll hope to further take Scottish heartlands from the SNP's grasp.
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Tosh, they voted against SNP coz of corruption and sleeze..
@@user-kz3yu3oz2w havenât you seen the Welsh Labour leader who has been caught red handed handing government contracts to donors and doesnât command the confidence of the Senedd yet refuses to resign đ€Łđ€Łđ€Ł
Correct. The Scottish SNP are completely corrupt.
The SNP spent SNP money on SNP stuff. The Police have been investigating this for 3 years. No public money is involved. The National Audit Office said that the Tories have lost ÂŁ21,000 million of public funds to Fraud and Corruption đ€·ââïž
Which only exists in English and right wing controlled UK media. While at the same time largely ignoring institutionalised corruption in Labour and Conservative parties. Between 1995 to 2010 the transparency index put the UK in the top 10 least corrupt governments now it's ranked 21 and falling. Using the same factors to calculate an index for Scotland shows increasing transparency in the period from 2012 to 2023. Largely because of John Swinney who applied private sector strategies to reduce loss and identify corrupt individuals. He was often accused of being a "bit of a Tory" by Labour.
Over the last eight years you have seen blatant corruption in the UK government amounting to ÂŁbillions go completely unpunished. A Russian with direct links to Russia's FSB buys his way into the House of Lords. You ignore all of that to focus on what? Can you even explain what exactly is this "corruption" you claimed? Not to me but to your self? Did any money go missing? Did any money suddenly appear? Was it dodgy book keeping on overspending on elections and not declaring? Conservative and Labour Party candidates have blatantly stolen campaign funds and expenses in the ÂŁ100's of millions over the last 40 years. (adjusted for inflation) Not to mention the works of art taken from museums and galleries to decorate government offices only to disappear. Later to turn up at auction a decade later being sold by family members to MPs, senior civil servants and Lords.
The UK economy is stagnant and government corruption is spiralling. But concentrate on seats that if still in SNP hands would make zero difference to the 2024 result. Farce.
@@boxtradums0073 And how is that relevant to us in Scotland. The SNP have 'diverted' over ÂŁ 20 BILLION of 'ring fenced' and other monies into their own vanity projects of 'FREE' bikes, laptops, phones etc in order to buy votes and con the electorate into voting for them.
SNP they're own worse enemy. Sturgeon needs to be accountable.
Did yânotice any opposition to her leadership or policies, from ANYONE đ€·ââïž, other than the usual theatre and lip service of course, thatâs all it takes to convince the public thereâs someone fighting their corner đ€Ąđ€Ł, the people deserve every hardship coming their way up and down the country đ
@@alistairbeveridge2753people were happy with her leadership and policies. Letâs no rewrite history here
Starmer taking credit, but it was primarily a rejection of the SNP. Tories elsewhere were rightly punished, BUT Labour will be hopeless. Just wait and see.
Who are you? Nostradamus with terminal cancer and gout?
@@BrianWMay According to data from Sevanta, 81% of voters in Scotland voted primarily with a view to get rid of the Tories. Labour being the big winners there. However only 14% of Scottish voters wanted a Labour government in Westminster.
@@gordonmackenzie4512 Useless & Swinney chanting get rid of the Tories in Scotland really backfired on the SNP who lost 39 seats whilst the Tories lost 1, which would suggest either that Useless and Swinney did a GREAT job, OR, there were reasons other than getting rid of the Tories which were very apparent as detailed in my post.
I dont see me voting for SNP ever again at least not while Sturgeon Swinney and Yousaf are part of it - Oh and you can include the waste of space that is Kate Forbes in that list - The one person i feel sorry for in all this is Joanna Cherry who seems to be a good person - A rose among thorns as the saying goes
This guy talks nonsense, he's an SNP shrill. The SNP will be judged on their record in 2026, not Labour's. When public services start to improve in England and the Scottish NHS continues to get worse, people will punish those responsible.
Bitter bstd Rob
@@kevinkevin-ug9po yes, he is
@@robcarrol Can you name me one public service that is better in England đŽó §ó ąó „ó źó §ó ż ? Just one, come on, Iâll wait đ€·ââïž
â@@gordonmackenzie4512education, transport, NHS waiting lists.
@@gordonmackenzie4512 Water. A public service that England no longer has.
The SNP lost because Scotland are sick of the SNP period they have been horrendous and have done nothing in all their time in office.
Can you name one, just one, public service that is better in England đŽó §ó ąó „ó źó §ó żđ€·ââïž
Clearly you don't live in Scotland. The SNP, for all of their many faults, have done plenty for the the people of their homeland. Only a rabid, Scotland-hating, Rangers-supporting, unionist would claim otherwise.
The SNP couldn't even build ferries to send boat-illegals back to France in. đ
Exactly what will happen to Labour in 2029 and largely for the same reasons.
@@gordonmackenzie4512 Don't worry once Labour have completely destroyed Scotland they'll be voting back SNP in their droves.
There is a positive....
Michael Fabricants wigs can now be recycled and used to insulate houses in Scotland.
Those were wigs??
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Scots don't have houses, they have hoooses.
They could be used as the chase hare in dog racing.
38% of Labour Voters support Scottish Independence. That has been the case for many years. That figure will be nearer 50% now. The priority on this occasion was to dump the corrupt, lying, incompetent Tories by voting Labour.
Mhhh, that is an interesting take on the loss of so many SNP MPs.
I see you are struggling to cope.
All you got was the equally as corrupt Labour.
Andrew Bowie increased his votes. SNP lost votes, Liberals gained them.
support for Indy is lower than 2014, it's a dead donkey, Labour will be even less inclined than the Tories to support it, as they benefit from Scottish Seats. Ironically the party that was more pro Scots indy has been replaced.
I was with Nicola, until she broke the 11th commandment.
Labour in Scotland got 35.7% of the votes in Scotland and 37 seats The SNP got 29 9% of tge votes in Scotland and only 9 seats not a fair system Labour are already unbearable let's see how long it takes Labour to mess things up
I suppose you were fine with the SNP getting 95% of the MPs with 50.1% of the vote back in the day?
What a load of tosh.. It was an anti-SNP vote not an attack on the tories , who lost one seat, SNP nearly wiped out
In Scotland, the SNP got 30% of the vote and only won 9 seats. labour got 35% of the vote but yet they won 37 seats. The tories only got 12% of the vote but yet they still managed to win 5 seats.
In England, if it wasn't for the reform party, we could well still have a tory government.
This guys a clown we the Scottish people got rid of the SNP because they did not a lot for Scotland but squirreled away money for a new indy ref they should have put that money into NHS,education,transport. Good riddance.they now knows the big wheel turns
@@ewanhenshaw5307 no, services work better in Scotland than they do in England and Wales and thatâs just a fact đ€Ł
@@boxtradums0073 Trains are cheaper. Water is better. Social care for the elderly is better. Tons of stuff, really. Try to read something other than anti-Scottish propaganda.
Ewan you are the clown
But they did before the SNP. Came to power fact because I was alive to witness it
â@@boxtradums0073 no that's not a fact
I used to be incredibly enthusiastic about the SNP, but after the party's financial scandal involving its top people, my cautious trust in the party was wrecked. I have no doubt at all that this was a huge reason as to why the SNP was reduced to a mere 9 seats. People have had enough of crooked leadership.
They'll have you believe that people who were really SNP supporters were voting Labour in SNP held constituencies to get rid of the Torys despite the Torys having never in history held most of these constituencies. The less convoluted solution is that people were voting for other parties in SNP constituencies to get rid of the SNP. I prefer this reasoning because it's the one that doesn't imply that Scots are thick as mince.
Time to get the S N P out of Holyrood now đĄđĄđĄđĄ
How long do we think it will be before the public is crying out to throw the bums out? What a joke our system is an apparently the sheeple can't see it.
Labours win in Scotland was Unionist tactical voting to reduce snp Westminster seats which in turn reduces snp funds ...I think they now loose 1.5 million. per year. Short Money is public funding that allows opposition parties to carry out their parliamentary work.
As of April 2022, the amount payable to qualifying parties is ÂŁ19,401 for every seat won by their party at the last general election plus ÂŁ38.75 for every 200 votes gained by the party. The SNP Party fund got 1.2 million last year.
That amount is now much reduced,
@@raymondhill8973 SNP funds come from SNP members. That makes no sense. The membership is still the same.
@@gordonmackenzie4512 Short Money is public funding that allows opposition parties to carry out their parliamentary work.
As of April 2022, the amount payable to qualifying parties is ÂŁ19,401 for every seat won by their party at the last general election plus ÂŁ38.75 for every 200 votes gained by the party. The SNP got 1.2 million last year.
9 seats isn't going to earn them very much..
Sounds about right, your statement reminded me of the 70s,but what do I know,I got that feeling I was back there and Iâm in the south of England,how depressing is that,good luck to you Scotâs ,your be ok, your a strong bunch of carectors, you always have been, and I hope you continue to beđŽó §ó ąó „ó źó §ó żđŹđ§đŽó §ó ąó „ó źó §ó żđŹđ§
So glad they're gone!
The Tories?
No ITâs all the Troyâs have gone
Not SNP the SNP are still here
Its only 6% swing to Labour, if folk were not desperate to get the Tories out. Labour would not get yes voters votes otherwise.
6% swing where? across the UK it was over 10%, and in Scotland the SNP to Labour swing was well above 10%
Problem with the SNP they keep flogging that fossilized horse of Scottish Independence! It's NEVER going to happen. They haven't listened to real and important issues that Scottish people want to solve. They got what they deserved!
It will happen no matter how much English fascists try and fight it.
If labour doesn't deliver for Scotland within the next 18 months or there toast in Scotland
Only true comment she made was that Labour in Scotland are nothing more than a branch office
Will be misery for the whole country real soon, don't forget to report
In your dreams, knuckle-dragger.
Scots going back to vote lending in UK elections and voting otherwise in Scottish Government elections. English commentators will eager jump to conclusions. But only the next Scottish election can confirm any change. Studies and polling data going back decades shows a slow generational shift to restoring independence. When age becomes a predictor in political choice on an issue always side with the younger age groups. The median age range for SNP is 20's to 50's for the Conservatives it's 70's to 80's and Labour 60's to 80's. Long term it's obvious who will be the last standing. Just as we know there is a 50% chance Labour will lose the next election and 90% chance the one after that. Since WW2 I think the Conservatives must have held power close to two third of the time. Only electoral reform can change this cycle and Labour like the Conservatives will never allow that regardless the cost to the UK.
I'm a supporter of Indy, but not a communist. The SNP managed to separate us Scottish Indy supporters from the SNP. Quite the achievement.
There going to be lot of Labour voters who will come face to face with that i told you so, very soon.
Repeal the hate crime bill. Thats one of the many reasons SNP lost but the MSM dont want you to know that.
The time has come for 'levelling down ' not up, that's Labour.
Time that Scotland had their money reduced to the same as England. Free England!đ
Scotland get more per head than England/Wales, the nerve to ask for more
The timing of the election during Scottish school holidays, challenges with individuals receiving their postal votes prior to departing for holidays, and Labour and media speculation regarding the importance of Scottish votes in diminishing Tory presence all contributed to the outcome.
@@suecole7338 My daughter got her postal vote paperwork today, Saturday.
Let's not forget nicola sturgeon called for a referendum during the Scottish October break
If you really believe that look outside to see if the sun still rises in the east and sets in the west clown
Taylor is a long time SNP apologist and SNP voter. Can you tell?
Its a nonsense to think that `Scottish` Labour MP`S will have the slightest bit of autonomy. They are Labours branch office in Scotland, that is an undisputable fact.
@@markwilkie3677 just more Anglo MPâs. Serfs
Whatever it is, just blame it all on the English. It's worked for the last 300 years it'll do for the next 300 years.
And btw, don't worry about independence. You'll still be able to blame everything on the English...so that's alright then....................unless you grow up in the meantime, but that's hardly likely.
@@tommymorrison6478 except it is all Englandâs fault because they have a monopoly on power đ€Ł. And itâs been 1000 years of oppression thank you very much
The same way the English blame the Scots for everything and get shirty about Scotland's very existence?
Labour always try claim credit for devolution, it was the EU that forced the issue.
Please explain how?
Poor Brian and Ayesha, their heroine Nike-liar caused this and they do what all snp people do. BLAME someone else, usually in anglphobic fashion.
They're done đđđ
14 years of madness are hopefully over. Thank you to Scotland for helping us get rid of the ridiculous posh tories đđ»
I'm curious why Alba didn't do well in the election. Not a single seat at all. You'd think nationalists annoyed with the SNP would have moved to Alba, but the numbers don't stack up.
They lost their deposits in every seat they contested. People have had enough of indy wanking and neverendums
The central belt is Labour territory historically and Alba are more akin to Lib Demâs
Just too new, I think. The real test whether Alba is already a failed project will be 2026 Holyrood elections
@@boxtradums0073 Alba got a total of 11,700 votes and lost their deposit in every single seat they contested.
@@robcarrol like I said the central belt where 85% of our population lives is natural labour territory where as Alba are more of a highland and Island Lib Dem type party. For instance ALBA dont want EU membership they want the EEA
And what is interesting is that the SNP have a larger vote share than the Tories đ
"Fugitive Snp hate monster last seen lurking in Glasgow sex shop basement trying to wash out red colour from fur"
There was never a "get the Tories out" momentum in Scotland. It was get the SNP out. Woke and incompetent government meant the SNP [+/- independence] deserved to be ousted. Please listen; the SNP do not own the Scottish Independence.
Nobody with a brain says that they do. The reality of Scotland and England being two wholly different nations and cultures has existed since the formation of both kingdoms over a millennia ago. The SNP are just the current expression of that reality.
A big majority voted SNP out, they couldn't vote green or tories, even Labour are going to do better in the next 5 years than snp have ever done....
Independence not on the ballot. Labour will utterly annuhialte their own gains by forgetting that.
We were more sick of the snp
Brian Taylor can hardly contain his glee at SNP defeat
Scottish band........Bay city rollers.............bye, bye baby good bye!
Rejection of Tories really. Westminster is a waste of a Scottish vote. It will be different in the Scottish election. Labour will be rejected because they like their blue friends, dismiss democracy in Scotland.
Missing the point(s). Scotland is fed up with divisive politics, and Swinney's latest comments on "de facto referendum" from this election reminded us of the damage done by the SNP with their previous referendum. Secondly, that previously when Ruth Davidson promised voting Scottish Conservatives was the best way to stop the independence debate, we got Boris Johnson as well and nobody wanted him. Thirdly, the inability of the SNP to do anything right, or what the vast majority of Scotland wants. We want to see ferries delivered, on time, on budget, and not wasting so much of our money that Calmac could have replaced their entire fleet for less. Then there's Deposit Return Scheme, in a country that already has kerb side recycling. Nobody wants to take their bottles back to the supermarket when they're also paying the council to come round and take away our recycling too. That was just going to be another SNP tax, and the SNP like to tax us. Fourth, identity politics, eroding women's rights is not something any parliament should ever do. Trans definitely need more help and recognition, but not at the expense of women's rights.
Misery for the UK
Maybe Labour ought to amend Scotland constitution to stop independent movements.
Could easily introduce a bill to prevent secession. Many countries have done this, such as the USA and Germany.
@@keewng wow such outright fascism I didnât expect to see.
As part of the ongoing strategy of removing the left from UK politics no doubt.
@@boxtradums0073 you might want to look up who the SNP were supporting in ww2....
@@PhoenixLord777 different party back then đ€Ł
Voted for far-leftwing socialists, over far-leftwing socialists ! Enjoy high taxes and population replacement Scotland đđ»
Excellent analysis
What happened in Skye?
Lib Dems won it
*The Nonces do DIRE STRAITS*
Times have been hard for the group formerly known as the *Singing Nonces Party* and now, after rebranding, just called *The Nonces* . In an attempt to start again they have released their favourite tracks from *DIRE STRAITS* on an EP available from their store priced at 600,000 smackeroonies. It features:
Sultans of Swing - Useless on Mutta, vocals by *Barry WHITE WHITE WHITE*
Money for Nothing - Waity Katy on Kartal
Walk Of Life - Fiona 'Leggit' Hyslop on Sarod
Southbound Again -'Sleekit' Sturgeon on the A9
Private Investigations - Dotty Bain on Dulcimer
Tunnel of Love - featuring The Saturday Girl
*Sultans of Swing* was their breakthrough single, though the *WHITE* vocals were a distraction. *Money for Nothing (It's all FREE) * became a MONSTER hit and an alternative 'anthem' for many. Unfortunately it's follow up ' *Can't Be Ar$ed* ' was pulled after after advice from ' *Dotty* ', who had a day job as a Lawyer and was doing alright, thankyou, had concerns about 'Hurty words'. *Sleekit* left the group under a bit of a cloud after some of the group's finances went missing. Tunnel of Love, featuring the Saturday Girl, was the groups most infamous track. It was the subject of much gossip and speculation and was attacked by many religious and women's' pressure groups.
Following the failure of the group to win at the latest BRIT contest, it is rumoured the Nonces will disband unless Beryl, the backing singer, can get the group's minibus back so they can support the up and coming ULEZ on a National tour.
Scotland should leave, support for merging will go through the roof.
Scotland should join the Russian Federation and ally with Iran , China and North Korea.
I think heâs got his push and pull factors mixed up.
Guff!!!!. Hear it.
Brian is a very astute observer and articulate commentator on peopleâs political leanings.
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Ted Heathâs reincarnation.
The man hasnât been to Tiree.
SNP have evaded political gravity for years, people are sick fed up and this is the first step of them being in opposition.
Yeah itâs a great result for Scottish mps to be frozen out of government but hey plenty of other minorities in there. Itâs only Scotland that go cares about that place
The people of Scotland lent their votes to Labour in order to get rid of the hated Tories. That support can very easily be withdrawn if London Labour insists on treating Scotland like a possession to be held. Starmer is in for a very rude awakening. All of the unionists are.
@@jackdubz4247 theyâve already done that by freezing Scottish MPâs out of the cabinet
They can now fit the whole parcel o' rogues in the one stolen campervan. Nine left, nine to go, zero seats.
Jimmy Krankie caused it.
interesting choice of thumbnail that shows no bias, lol
Doubtful the Scottish Goverment at Holyrood can last until 2026, it's hanging by a threat as it stands. That is before the SNP panic with this result and try to centre the party, if they do this the Green Party wont support their autumn budget, and thats it bust. Let's hope the SG collapses in the autumn so we dont have to worry about the Labour impact problem in 2026.
Raab. đ
I just can't believe what he just said. When he worked for the BBC he was the most biased reporter on the SNP side always reserved a seat, right at the front and always the first to get to ask a question some of us call it ,a licking SNP. He is wrong. The Scottish people just wanted rid of the corrupt SNP the easiest way to do it was the Labour party most of us aren't supporting the Labour party. It was the same in England as well it was not the labour won, but conservatives lost. this shows because of the very low turnout in both countries
So who are you supporting and if not Labour ? đ€Ł. Are you happy despite what Starmer said that Scottish Mpâs have been frozen out of the cabinet like a good little serf
@@boxtradums0073 reform UK of course
@@chrisharrell2449 voting for the hard right Anglo fascists/nats
Choice was between a jobee sandwich and a diarrhea roll.
Scotland has lent their vote to get rid of the Tories as independence will be easier against a Labour government. If you think independence is gone then youâre deluded. Scotland wants the EU and if Starmer doesnât deliver (and he wonât) the SNP will be back bigstyle.
If that was true, you'd know Labour didn't need the Scottish votes to win and form a government. The difference is Labour recognised that to govern for ALL the UK he needed Scotland. They're not just honeyed word from Starmer, he means it.
The SNP were mired in scandal, which is why they lost.
@@mattbooth307if he means it where are the Scotâs in the cabinet đ€Łđ€Łđ€Ł
â@@mattbooth307 Glasgow is a yes city and folk I know were desperate to get the Tories out. The lent their vote and want 2kid to deliver or it wont happen again.
@tomwalsh2244 Scotland separated from the UK would have no chance of rejoining the UK. We would never meet the Copenhagen Criteria.
Lol đŹđ§
That's wot happens with gubment. What we were all expecting. See why no one bothers voting.
That thumbnail is funny đ
Should not have been as sleezy as the tories. So I voted ALBA not voting for a English party. That includes labour and reform what.
Get rid of the pointless Holyrood which is just a home for the otherwise unemployable!
@@123ZURLON aye Scotland was nirvana under Thatcher. Run along and play in traffic.
Get rid of Westminster. It serves no purpose.
The majority of Scots want independence and they have given the SNP too many chances to keep to their promise of independence. Where do the independence voters go? They are still there and will grow and grow. The SNP or another party is going to have to enact a state of independence on a majority in a Scottish election. Notice of this should be made to the UN and of course England. This enactment must be automatic on an independence majority and the 1707 UK union instantaneously desolved. No more messing around.
and Scottish MPâs frozen out of the cabinet while other minorities are over represented đ€ funny that.
Probably because they can hear all the complaining 400 miles away
Thereâs the Scottish Secretary! Itâs about in line though, 1/11 (ish) MPs in Labour are Scottish, maybe another one would be a little more representative. A lot of the cabinet have gone over from their old Shadow positions, so new MPs get less of a look in, and as the Scottish MPs have only just been elected it may take time to get any more in.
@@alundavies1016oooh we have the one position that has to be a Scottish MP so we are very well represented đ. Meanwhile people from a demographic of just 2.5% of the population holds a senior position and we have two BAsianâs in prominent positions. People seem to forget that itâs Scotâs that are the largest minority in the UK but hey 1000 years of history show the absolute hatred the English have for us.
@@alundavies1016oh aye and Douglas Alexander just got reelected someone who served as a Secretary of State under Brown but he was completely overlooked for people who have never held any cabinet position. The red tories again showing their English imperialist attitudes
Considering all of them are brand new MPs they are going to need to prove themselves before getting ministerial positions
Scotland is so attached to Ireland in so many ways, so a lot of what Is going on in Scotland will be what happens to Ireland if Ireland should seek to unite as one and be part of the EU, and Scotland is still stuck with England and not allowed to join the EU as what most of Scotland wants. As many in Scotland hold a Irish passport which allows freedom of movement
@@louisjadot9194 đ€Ł
@@louisjadot9194 Scotland has always been the bridge between Ireland and England politically and geographically
GB energy headquarters in Scotland mean F all when it will be staffed by no doubt English people đ. Remember when Labour said âdont send a message, send a governmentâ and then froze Scottish MPâs out of government đ€Ł
_"GB energy headquarters in Scotland mean F all when it will be staffed by no doubt English people"_ - Why should it be? There are plenty of examples of de-centralised Government departments/agencies around the country that are locally staffed.
@@ftumschk I have some magic beans to sell you đ. How much you want to bet they tray and make it reflective of the population as a whole so we end up with 85% of the staff being English. Plus any manufacturing jobs related to it will go to England. This is what they always do.
@@ftumschk Police Scotland has all senior positions given to English and Northern Irish staff. They have to maintain a unionist advantage.
@@ftumschk I have some magic beans to sell you if you are interested đ€Ł. Any manufacturing will go to England too leaving the only thing that is Scottish are the resources they are taking to hand to non Scotâs just like they did with our fossil fuels.
@@gordonmackenzie4512 hit the nail on the head đ
Sanity at last well done Keir power to your elbow
Amazing how some people just spiel drivel. People voted for Labour because they became sick of the SNP. Opinions are like a""holes. Everyone has one. The key thing is not to become one.
Load of old tosh. The silent majority do not want separation. However, there are increasingly numbers who want to stop more devolved powers and abolish devolution.
Good little Tory serf you are
@@jacquelinegraham4786 Whatâs the advantage of English dominance ? 50% of Scottish folk simply donât get it đ€·ââïž
Its astonishing that Glasgow a yes city lent their vote to Labour.
She is wrong, that is not why folk voted labour. They lent their vote to get the Tories out.
Dissolve the devolved we never had these problems when Westminster was running the uk all our problems started with the SNP AND DEVOLUTION.
Rigged! Passpost vote, RIGGED! Union & imperial masters goodbye! 53% yes :)
I'm awaiting SNP's excuse that they weren't handed sufficient millions by the UK government to fund their campaign.
Government does not fund Party campaigns. That would be illegal.
Andrew, you really dont understand party funding much do you?
@@kevinkevin-ug9po Methinks Heâs not a clever wee racist.
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@@ianadams1132 My daughter highlighted this today. She is NHS, and like her colleagues very SNP. But many had voted Labour to get rid of the Tories, The Tories hate the NHS, they want it gone.
we'll rise up again đŽó §ó ąó łó Łó Žó żđȘ
You will have to đ