Chad Johnson | If You're Good Enough You Don't Need An Alabama, Go To An HBCU.
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IAA Miami Season 3: Episode 3
Brandon Marshall, Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson, Channing Crowder, Fred Taylor and Jared Odrick jump out the gates tackling subjects surrounding HBCU's and the NFL Hall of Fame. Chad Johnson argues that athletes don't need a Power 5 schools like Alabama to make it into the NFL. Channing Crowder disagrees and believes that the road to the NFL is much easier through a power 5 school. Jared Odrick challenges Channing to donate $200,000 of his own money to an HBCU to help close the financial gap. #HBCU #Ochocinco #Alabama
(0:00) Intro
(2:09) DraftKings Sportsbook
(3:00) What is needed to be accomplished with HBCU
(10:20) can HBCU keep up with big name schools?
(28:15) Breaking Bread Interlude
(29:01) Hall of Fame
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Ocho is hall of Fame in the fans books. He’s been out the league many years and everybody still knows him and loves his game still! That’s hall of fame right there!
Unfortunately, it's the NFL Hall of Favoritetism.
@@JELew-yk3bm System of control in America is what they described. Made football not about football. Same in hip hop: how bad do you want this hall of fame? What will you do for it? HBCUs facilitate strong sense of self with no caping. Beware, this same system has been planting poisonous seeds in HBCUs with sellout presidents. Much accountability across the board. Get involved with governing of these institutions from Institution of Higher learning down to campuses
@@tacotom3492 still better than alot top 20
Them white boys don’t want a confident black man who doesn’t care about their validation to be in the hall of fame tout like you said he’s definitely a HOF in the fans book
Same. B marsh is too and Fred is borderline.
Channing’s face when Jared asked him to donate 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
😂🤣
And that's the problem. I want to see you do great.....but I'm not gonna help.
Priceless!! Even if they all give fifty thousand a piece & donate to a HBCU that would be a start. Since they’re saying they want these 18 year olds to head to a HBCU school. Then lead by example. Sounds like all talk & no action. Except Channing because he’s not for it in the first place.
I hope they see this post because its the absolute truth. Division I schools got big from donations, booster clubs, alumni who were all doing it for their culture.
Channing tripping.... I also say "If all of the top black athletes went to HBCUs the money would come and they would be on TV causing the hbcus to have more exposure .... then you have the competition there because the "Top" players are at the HBCUs.... "
Fred always pushes the conversational beyond basic, he has very deep thoughts.
Because fred for the most part is an alpha male and thinks like a man the others make abit to many excusee for my liking but at the end of the day its good to have diffrent opinions to make a show grow
No he just uses common sense, the issue is Brandon is too emotional and he needs to chill and not try to talk over the other brothers. If they did just one episode without him, it would even go to an other level, because then you have only relaxed brothers talking to each other
What I was just thinking. Dude is so zen and composed at all times. Huge respect for him
HBCUs don't look at athletes as just athletes. They hold those young men and women accountable to be more than an athlete and pursue greatness beyond athletics. Many HBCUs want their students to be more than their sport, unlike some PWIs who mostly look at their athletes as a ticket price or commission to build their facilities and presidential suites.
Facts 💯
Please most athletes are behind academically when they get to HBCU’s and remain that way throughout the 4-5 years they stay there.
Correct
@@chocmilk10 Most athletes are behind at PWIs too. They get pushed along as favors. I have SEVERAL former students who are 3-5 star athletes at or committed to PWIs who could barely read when they graduated H.S. Brandon didn't know what a mammal was, Channing didn't know Europe was a continent, and my baby Fred struggled to determine percentages 🤣
True
Fred is absolutely needed on this show I love his wisdom and perspective
Yes, he definitely brings the balance...
he’s essentiall
@@MyBigMeech Definitely ‼️
Agreed. All of em are a great fit honestly.
@TIL IS2 Thank you for taking time out your day to let me know this Bless you 😂😂😂🤦🏾♀️
Steve Mcnair, Alcorn State, 3rd pick in "95, went to a Super Bowl & was the first Black quarterback to win NFL MVP. So it is possible, because it's been done. History is forgotten and left in the past, when it's not shown & spoken about. It's the instant gratification that is really being ignored. And how value is placed in material than the actual work, for these young people to recognize their worth.
Lol of course it's been done. But most 4-5 star recruits are going to a power 5 school. You got the best facilities and trainers and coaches in college sports plus you go be on tv alot also. They do recognize they worth that's why they are going to the best sports schools in the world. And hbcu schools aren't it right now
Absolutely 👊🏾✊🏾👊🏾
Steve Air McNair!! Go look at his college numbers
Retired professional athletes are asking poor inner city kids" which most great athletes are" to change a culture, come on fellas lets hold these HBCU's accountable, they have to do better themselves to deserve these kids
Rip "Air" McNair
I love Fred Taylor's quiet, humility and classic confidence... He's definitely a Renaissance Man!
This show sure hits different now that Jackson State University has gone 11-1 and now got the number 1 player in the country
And so many people are transferring to JSU. He spoke too soon. Prime is changing HBCUs. I graduated from FAMU but JSU is on a different level this year. If JSU playing a “money game” this year, my money on JSU. Much respect to Prime!
How bout now lol
@@Kayloveyoumoore this didn’t age well
@@lamar679 Lol… You’re right!
Note to IAMATHELETE: Read the comments and keep Jared on.
A very rational and clear communicator!
I second that
Yea keep him and get rid of crowder
@@kingofrome5657 I couldn’t agree more bro.
@@kingofrome5657 no. channing has a unique way of thinking which is needed can’t have a cast with similar minded people
@@thebryants4201 Wrong, get rid of B. Marsh...put him behind the camera or something. He disrupts the show..
I know it says Jared is a special guest but I am hoping he stays a part of the team this season. He's been a great addition into the conversations thus far.
I agreed 100%. He adds something that I didn’t know the show needed. His insight is refreshing.
This better be a part one........ like he's awesome--he can say what he needs to say, really efficiently
Fred and Jared really know how to deep dive into a topic!! I enjoy their perspectives 🔥
They’re the “thinkers” imo
I think having an HBCU alum on this panel would’ve been beneficial
They didn't go for a reason
Jerry rice would’ve been perfect
Jared asks questions that makes you really think. That's a whole different level of comprehension! HIGHLY RECOMMEND to keep him ! Great asset to the team. Loved how everyone had different opinions. Keeps the show interesting.
I love him as an 5th host
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This is how men talk. It has been hard having manly conversations in recent years since lot of black men don’t want to stand for anything positive for their own, even in private lol. This how testerone communicate without highstrung emotions crossing respect line.
Fact
Bruh fr. He be on point. He make you check your answer 3 or 4 times for his questions.
I’m glad Fred spoke on the Randy Moss Hall of Fame. A lot plays on a person mind & heart when they have achieved something. His up bringing or his Mother anything. Jared seemed like he got what Fred was saying. Fred deserves to be there!
Fred has so much wisdom. He doesn't speak as much as the other guys, but when he does, it's always worth listening to!
Can someone explain to me who most hbcus are named after. Then please explain to me who actually runs those schools. Please someone educate me on this! It just seems to me like it’s an elusion that these are black university’s 🤷🏿♂️
I’m glad this is the first comment. That conversation almost turned into them starting to make assumptions about how Randy felt and his emotions. Fred was right on time with everything he said.
@@stevenbrathwaite9932 educate yourself. Google is free.
@@huntstyle indeed
PrimeTime is doing a great job with changing things for HBCUs! Hopefully, he doesn't leave.
i dont think he will, i think as long as he's winning and those attendance numbers are avg 40k-50k every home game and his salary is competitive with some power 5 schools(notice i didn't say with nick sabens or huge power 5's like Bama) he will be a lifetime coach like those many life time power 5 coaches i.e. the Bill Snyders of KSU etc. Prime has found a new calling
Florida state um sorry
Yea right prime always been about the light. Let FSU call see what happens. Let a nfl team call and see what happens. Hbcu want great players it’s easy raise the money and build state of the art facilities. These kids need to think who’s telling them to go to these schools and did they go and did their kids go. D1 schools offer these kids great everything from food to weight programs. Prime is awesome but there’s one reason he’s at jsu and that’s the bright lights back on him. If that goes he goes. If other schools call he’s gone. When his kids graduate he’s gone maybe I’m wrong and kinda hope I am because it’s good for those schools but they don’t have to get 5stars. Most schools are made up of more 2 & 3 stars anyways. Evaluate and coach the kids up.
Fred Taylor the most underrated tailback of all time. My favs growing up was barry then fred then all day.
It's a tie between Fred and Corey Dillon from around that era. At least Fred had a resemblance of a decent team for several seasons, Dillon was stuck in Cincinnati during some very lean years.
if fred was on a big market or even more popular team he would be in the hof
Good episode! FYI Jerry Rice, Walter Payton, Michael Strahan, Shannon Sharpe, Richard Dent, Steve McNair, Robert Mathis, Donald Driver, Jimmy Smith to name a few NFL Legends that graduated from HBCU’s. Do your research Channing!
I haven't watched the whole thing but wasn't he talking about modern day sports. It's been awhile since a lot of those guys played. I agree that it isn't a requirement to go to the top school to be great. But it helps. And how can you spin it to a high schooler that an HBCU is the better choice. Because if I am not mistaken a lot if not all of who you named didn't have many options for school. So yes you can make it but we are talking about going by choice not necessity.
1 guy you listed was drafted in the past 25 years. Channing was spitting straight facts.
The only reason HBCU's aren't on the same level is due to funding. Power 5 schools receive millions more in funding every year from the government, including sponsorships, & alumni giving back. The HBCU I graduate from was recently gifted $1M from an alumni which is the largest in school history. Dr. Dre gifted USC $20M last year. Big difference.
AAMU
Facts the athletes come from our neighborhood
It’s not just funding, it’s exposure…they aren’t picking power five schools because of funding, it’s being on cbs, espn and the sec network…1 recruiting class should all go to a HBCU and that will change the tone…until that happens they won’t be going and if ur end game is the nfl…u have to go get that exposure
100%!!! I live in Louisiana and LSU alumnis practically pay damn all the football team expenses
Great point! 20M to an HBCU will be life changing to any of those schools.
Fred T is really the one I want to hear most from every week. Love his insight, love his perspective, love his intellect, love his delivery. His input can usually wrap up the entire show. Unless they wrap the show with Chad or Chan’s humor and that works too.
Chad Johnson really supports Florida A&M (FAMU) to the fullest. Plus he's from Florida. I'm glad he supports a HBCU college.
I wish Fred participated in conversation as much as B and Chan… his emotional intelligence is off the charts and he’s always dropping such knowledge when he opens his mouth
He is always calm.
Well he is a listening man. Hear everything there is to hear before speaking.
What Prime is doing in Mississippi… is showing a path for prosperity. Now kids can get sponsors and coaching… those extras that Channing is enamored with will follow. The NFL will go to where the talent is. Some players won’t like the HBCU culture… others will thrive.
But you have to face reality, it’s so much harder to make it from an HBCU and I went to one
FACTS 💯, just like some know and others don't
What Prime is doing.... Has not actually worked, we need to be patient enough to watch if and how a seed grows!! Prime has not actually done anything yet. And to even put it all on him... is quite frankly beyond wishful thinking and borders on delusion!!
@Vincent Greer. Channing is actually correct. Large schools have to the resources to recruit way before HBCUs can. Also, sports writers who make teams aware of in college are not focused on HBCUs. Just like how most kids drafted to the NFL primarily from the east coast versus the west. They are a lot of elements to this issue.
The NFL use to go to HBCU all the time in the 60s because that was where some of the top black athletes were, it is possible if we use intent to make that a standard again.
When we talking HBCU’s there’s a lot of players that went too the NFL!
1. Jerry Rice
2. Walter Payton
3. Deacon Jones
4. Willie
5. Jackie Slater
6. Michael
7. Shannon (Unc)
8. Ed “Too tall Jones”
Just a few so there is players I could think off!!
Steve McNair as well
Times have changed tho.....
Doug Williams
Doug Williams
@@braedendavis8972 but if you think bout it, times were harder then for players from HBCUs to even have a chance to be looked upon from the NFL. With the technology now it should be easier for HBCU athletes to be looked at
Brandon- makes you think
Chad- brings the passion
Channin- brings the real (unfiltered)
Fred- brings the wisdom
No man is bigger than the team. Love the show.
Brandon makes you think as long as he’s not speaking on the NBA and their contracts 😂😂😂😂
Big Shoutout to Fred for defending Randy Moss. I remember watching a documentary on Moss. That man went through a lot. He overcame a lot.
FRED!!! THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING UP FOR HBCU'S - It's more than sports - They are pumping out quality and confidence individuals yearly in overwhelming numbers. I wish more athletics would invest their dollars in HBCUs/education. Channing your wife is an example of excellence of an HBCU get on the wagon.
@Frank White they produce the most black professionals. What do you think they are supposed to do?
@Frank White speak on what you know, instead of spewing out ignorance.
HBCU graduates have the most success in graduate schools than those Indigenous Americans from PWI. Facts
Know thy power. If Channing’s child can ball, the power of networking and celebrity should give his child advantage of getting chosen for the league. Disspell employee mindset and know strength of your following amd name recognition while people still recognize it.
What HBCUs need is strong alumni support. That's how these major universities became so big. Alumni who became millionaires gave back.
Doug Williams won a Superbowl coming from a HBCU Grambling State.
What Coach Sanders and Eddie George is trying to do, is what the “white” colleges did to HBCU’s. There was a time, not to long ago, where the HBCU was dominate with talent. The “other schools would not play them, when they did it was a blow out. We have to remember the only reason these team are powerhouses, is because they have the kids, it’s not the school. Once our kids decide to support their OWN, the whole narrative will change. Stop thinking of the school as the resource, the kids are actually to commodity/resource, that part needs to be understood. In Florida we are having a problem with our kid going out of state making these other colleges look great. It’s the “Florida Talent” not the school.
Great history lesson. Thank you.
That's facts
I understand what you’re trying to say . But this is just false lol there was no point in history where Florida State, Michigan, and Alabama would lose to an HBCU bro. Maybe an HBCU could beat an low tier FBS like Kent state or damn Utep. But those huge schools have always had an advantage
@@youngchubby7764 remember blacks was not welcome in white facilities, so where did the black athletes play? A lot of the older black HOF’s came from Black Universities. Just to name a few Walter Payton, Mel Blount, Deacon Jones, Jerry Rice and I can keep going. You missed the whole point I was making… the kid makes the school. Don’t disagree just to disagree. Things happened before you were born. A lot those team just refused to play HBCU’s. There is so much I can speak but this is not the platform. By the way, I study history for fun.
@@hanselwatson8446 spitting
Fred was 100% spot on with his take on Randy crying.
FACTS total Gcheck loved that shit
Jared didn’t mean that as disrespect toward Randy he was just saying that too many times he’s seen athletes lose their identities because other people were determining it for them. When he saw Randy crying he didn’t say it was bad for that to happen, he was saying how his first thought was Randy let other people dictate his identity and he thought that display of emotion was like his life was now completed when sports shouldn’t be what fully dictates athletes personas cuz it can be taken away in an instant. And Jared was juxtaposing that reaction he saw from Randy to how Chad carries himself regarding the HOF
@@pascalpolynice9906 yes that’s the problem we’re not going if the talent goes the scouts won’t have a choice🤷🏾♂️ we control cool
@Stock Starters I literally cannot conceive how you rationally arrived at this conclusion unless you’re 12 or you’re one of those “men don’t cry” guys
I'd say about 45% spot on. Nothing is without context and when things like Randy crying is presented without one, people are going to fill in the blank areas. What Jared was saying is Randy's behaviour at that time could be interpreted as him crying over the jacket and the narrative and visual, was something he wasn't too comfortable with, especially with how much athletes' personas are heavily tied to their respective sports, as if the jacket validated Randy, who on his own merit was one of the best to ever do it.
Jared is a perfect addition to this show. He's very sharp and adds a conservative point of view.
Absolutely! We sometimes need a conservative point of view.
Absolutely
I agree!
I appreciate him
I love when Fred talks, everybody shuts tf up. Sincerely, WV resident✊🏾
For real b
This conversation on HBCU’s is beautiful. I agree with Brandon and Ocho that you don’t need to go to Alabama or one of those schools to make the NFL especially if you get enough guys to go with you. Look at what NBA players have done teaming up on a team why can’t kids do that with HBCU’s and build strength and visibility there. Also with social media and the change over the last year these kids can get paid in college and even high school so the game is changing. I’d like to see more businesses put their money where their mouth is on diversity and give back to HBCU’s similar to Jeff Bezo’s ex wife. Can anyone go to an HBCU or does that take away from the intent? We all should be funneling money there, we owe that to the black community. Again great video guys, my favorite channel on CZcams hands down.
Lmao Jared saying “go get his jacket” had me rolling.
Me too. The way he said it. Lol
The only reason Power 5 schools are Power 5 schools is because our athletes made them powerful. Is it to build a pipeline to the NFL or build the culture through an HBCU? Both are possible. Our community is fractured and HBCUs can begin the rebuilding of the foundation of community-minded leaders. Channing wouldn't be one to sit at a counter during the Civil Rights movement. HBCU's can not compete and he's right, but the bigger picture Channing won't embrace, is the movement and pursuit of a higher purpose of rebuilding Black families and communities. I also don't think Channing knows the history of how HBCU talent was raided because that's where the talent was. Yes, cultural sacrifice. We need higher profile men like Brandon, Chad, Fred, Jared, Channing and Deion to say, you will not ignore Black talent at HBCUs to keep them down and youth, you can come to an HBCU, make the league if you're gifted, and get cultural, intellectual and life development beyond the field if you're not, as well.
PREACH. The single and only reason PWIs and Power 5 schools have the resources and success they have now is simply because of their black athletes who bring the funding there with their talent. The only reason they choose these places is because of the possibility of making it to the league and even then it’s only a 1-2% chance because only the best make it. If you take away the athletes from PWIs they are NOTHING.
Deadass 💯
Accurate!
And giving back by alums. We cant tell kids to go to hbcus without putting our money where our mouth is
@@mrcoachdevaughn8925 This.
Telling a young kid thats looking to breakout from that "situation'' him and his family are on, to 'sacrifice' without those so-called leaders not leading by example is blasphemous.
Channing stays keeping it real. You can’t expect an 18yr old to attend a HBCU and risk securing the bag, when you secured the bag going to Florida, Penn State, Oregon State, UCF. Why ask that kid to risk his bag if you didn’t?
Some of our greatest black leaders started cultural movements when they were 19-21 yrs old…look at fred hampton, he was only 21
@@thatboymike1732 Fred Hampton didn't play football & have a possible multi-million dollar future in front of him, that's what the conversation is about as much as I Respect Fred Hampton.
Facts
I get what you are saying but a 3, 4, and 5 star recruit is a 3, 4, and 5 star recruit. Can't deny the talent. Scouts will find you.
@@ericjackson7632 yes, but are you getting better those 3 years you’re in college when you aren’t competing agains the best day in and day out? Also, you won’t have the best coaching, nutritionists, strength coach, facilities, etc. Unfortunately, it’s tough to ask an 18yr old kid to risk his potential generational wealth. Especially, when the cast majority of the minorities before him didn’t go to HBCUs. They secured their bag and now they want you to risk yours…
Just imagine if these top black players go to the HBCUs to play how much attention they could bring to hbcus. Which will drive money (resources) for these universities to prosper. Therefore, give these universities the opportunities to offer full scholarships and make the facilities better
the thing is the best of the best high school players aren’t going to school to help the school. they are using it to make the NFL. It is not about putting the school on the map it is about going to the league. That’s why it will be very hard to convince these athletes to attend HCBUs
The show deserves to be nominated for a Emmy Award.. 100%
No Emmy that means they sold out
Faxxx
I'm really liking the addition of Jared. He brings in a fresh level headed info to Channing's amazing craziness.
"Amazing craziness" lol that's a t-shirt.
Channing isn’t wrong imagine if these dudes went to hbcu is it still a Fred Taylor , ocho cinco, Brandon Marshall and Jared O ?
@@Flameofblaze7 Nope. But it’s a Strahan, Sharpe, McNair, Rice, etc.
AMAZING craziness. OTFL Cracking up!
@@nik-at-nite 🗣say it louder for the ppl in the back!!
This show is so necessary for the culture. Agree or disagree with anything that they are saying, it's good to have a platform where we can be real in our own lane. There are so many different layers to our people and I love that these brothers are not afraid to be themselves and show the many different sides and points of view that we see everyday in our communities
It is fam, I just wish they would have worked it out.
Shout out to Chad Johnson for mentioning Langston University. I played ball and graduated from there. Langston is an HBCU out in Langston Oklahoma, about an hour from Oklahoma City.
ahh, I always see ya'll on some of the SWAC teams schedule, always wondered who ya'll were. On a side note, Mississippi Valley is beatable.
Fred Taylor is the most underrated rb of all time he'll eventually get in thank you defending Randy Moss people must never seen his 30 for 30 the way he grew up in West Virginia
The different perspectives are 🔥. Love the fact that everyone gets to say their peace. This is how you use your platform. Channing keep it 100. Jared is a deep thinker. Fred T is the OG dropping Gems. Chad is authentic. B Marsh is a great moderador. Love it. Love it. Love it. Lets goooo.
Right I like Jared on the show. Dude brings up some excellent points whether you agree with it or not he makes you think.
Facts. The roster is complete!
facts i love this show
These power schools don't want the HBCU schools bcause its gonna take away frm them what Prime is doin is fuckin amazing teach these boys this is what you deserve playing for me they asked about a starting QB in the the NFL as of now none but there was 1 Steve Air McNair was a beast and all pro QB
Well said bro 🎯
Thank you for bringing J.O. to the show, gives the conversations a totally different spin that is needed to keep this going. My favorite show right now!!!
You got to respect Channing honesty and being real. And respect his brothers on the show that disagree with him but still love him.
I attended FAMU so I KNOW the beauty and the necessity of an HBCU. This convo is gold because "other folk" never heard about JSU, FAMU, HOWARD, HAMPTON, etc. Don't STOP the talk and support. Five years from now, I guarantee things will look and be different
🐍🐍🐍
You better mention BCU especially given how we whopped FAMUs behind in the Florida Classic year in year out, and made your band look like a joke 😂😂😂
NOT ASKING AN 18 YEAR OLD TO MAKE THAT COMMITMENT BUT THE FORMER PROFESSIONAL PLAYERS TO FEED THE GROWTH THROUGHOUT HBCU UNIVERSITIES AND COLLEGES BY DONATIONS, CORPORATE SPONSORSHIPS AND KNOWLEDGE. THANK YOU TO COACH SANDERS AND GEORGE FOR SEEING WHAT IS NEEDED TO BRING THIS CONVERSATION TO LIGHT!!!!!!
All that corporate money sound good. But it is a cop out for the alumni. If u want to compete the base of the growth has to come from alumni and boosters of the school.
HBCUs need help in mechanics of system with more full scholarships for athletes
Jared is a great addition listen to your fans and keep him on the team.
Fred’s piece in response to identity was a 💎!!!!! Freaky Fred always gives valuable insight!
Yep Fred and Channing
Always! He's my fave!
ALWAYS… While they all have their moments, Fred brings peaceful value to the room
Steve McNair was a runner up for the Heisman in Alcorn, he was the top QB. People's forget that.
I was wondering why he was never mentioned
Doug Williams to
Youngins on this show
You would Chad or even Fred remember him.
South Africa here: The types of conversations that go on here…….everyone should watch this channel. It’s inspiring and there is so much to learn from listening to these guys. Always learn something and these guys get me thinking about things from a different perspective in many instances.
This show should’ve been longer!!! Loving the content
Appreciate Fred for checkin them on Randy's emotions when he was accepted into the hall.
👏🏾👏🏾
It’s just really enjoyable to watch and listen to these men who all have such different personalities but compliment each other so well. Bravo gentlemen
Amen Kaya. This was a conversation of free Men with expression of independent thought. When everyone’s saying same thing and no disagreements, you are watching sellout show no matter what the show is. Evidenced in most sports commentating increasingly now and over last decades.
It's so great that there having these type of conversation and I hope one day that our kids would understand that they need to do it for their culture
Gentleman I thank you from the bottom of my heart for the conversations you have. So glad I found your channel.
Glad y’all brought Jared back. Make him a regular. He really keeps the convo flowing in more ways than one.
Jared was the best addition to this show since Ocho no cap
Great episode! Dope conversation! HBCUs now! HBCUs forever!
Since day 1 episode 1 I been rocking with them. They open the doors to conversations that need to be seen and heard. Thank you fellas for being more than just athletics, your PIONEERS🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 Love Chad and Fred
"Culture is incalculable" - Jared Odrick | I love it!
Channing says himself “it comes down to donations”. And he would like to see it change. Well donate Channing…
He keeps wishing for a change but any effort toward making that change he argues against it.
he said he has kids too still take care of before he can make the make donations you guys want to see
Lol if you feel different u donate, i didn’t hear anybody say “i always donate to help” they’re the main ones advocating
HBCU alum NCA&T and financial supporter along with my father JCSU, Aunts NC Central, and cousins WSSU. We believe in the HBCU experience!
It’s kinda like when people say tax the rich and they get rich, they stop saying that shit real quick lol
I love that you guys are having this conversation
most HBCUs are scared to even recruit the 5-star athletes, cause they assume said athlete won't give them the time of day
Recruiting budget for an HBCU is limited. They can't gamble on recruiting a kid who 95% isn't going to attend a HBCU.
they are starting to try now
there's a shift now and things are changing- the great ones will be pro regards of where they go- one and done any way
@@keithwisdom1663 nah, not in football lol
When Jared asked Channing to donate to his wife college he was hesitant but quick to tell what HBCUs don’t have lol
He really does their job for them. Like you dont like NOTHING about HBCU dude? Why are you here.
That right there be my issue with his attitude about this conversation.
Ok.
We get where it is.
Are you willing to help change it to where it could be?
Channing just throwing HBCU under the bus definitely wouldn’t be a black leader
He literally said “I have 3 kids, you think I can do that?” , nigga 200K is alot for a school he DIDNT go to
@@dariusbrown9561 nah he speaks facts, why would a kid choose a HBCU over Bama, LSU, or Ohio
When Channing said “no you need to love this scholarship, so you can go and get this bread later on” was straight facts.
Fred said, “Hol’ up, y’all not about to talk about Moss like this.” 😂
I loved the addition of Jared. His perspective is different and deep. I remember when he came on last season and nobody agreed Ed with him.
Jared is a top tier addition to the show fellas. GREAT discussion, as per usual especially because identity was something I struggled with after 10 years of ball.
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Two things I like to add: I agree with Chad and as former NFL players changing the narrative starts with you by funneling finances into the HBCU for the training, food, etc.. Or find one potential star and sponsor that kid by remodeling the dorm room, making sure they have the necessities.
I think the best way is to start at basketball 2 five star recruits on a hbcu team and the rest 2 or 3 star recruits to fill out the team they can make real noise in the tournament compete for a national championship and shine light on hbcu athletics as a whole it can be a game changer
@@johnjohn0 it's gonna happen watch
Exactly it would help HBCU to have more high profile student athletes go there to uplift the university as a whole and it will take strong people to change that narrative that big college’s are the only choice to be seen if the great athletes are minorities they need to push their power to HBCU’s so minorities can reap the wealth they generate to the big colleges
@@johnjohn0 I think now they will especially with getting paid now think about the commercials they would be offered and I know they'll get sponsors they just need to be the first one to do it
The money and the resources are there. They just need to funnel that to the HBCU’s and recruit and retain these students. We have to change the narrative and the idea that the HBCU is inferior. I had a chance to got to Howard and Southern. I was so brain washed at the time, I brushed it off like they were trash school. I just had to be at a D1 PWI because that’s what “they” taught me. If I could go back in time I would have gone HBCU and left SJU.
Love the dialect Jared always brings. He is never afraid to share unpopular opinions or ask the questions most wouldnt. 👏👏👏
I love y’all bruh! Greatest podcast ever. Y’all really affecting the culture positively. If it’s not broke don’t fix it. Peace, God ✊🏽
I would really have loved to see a current/former NFL player that went to an HBCU on the show but I'm still excited for this episode.
@@kristophiertilmon1602 Langston Lions yup!
they need the goat.... Jerry Rice!!
Shannon Sharpe would’ve been great.
Michael Strahan went to Texas Southern and has transcended sports after a HoF career and succeeded on a mainstream level.
Tarik Cohen
Keep bringing Jared. I love this show.
Definitely keep him....
Yes!!!!!
Wholeheartedly agree
Disagree he doesn’t fit well,
I agree. A lot of the times he brings a different sometimes more controversial take on things. What was needed
One of my new favorite podcast, been going back watching every episode
Channing’s face when Jared told him to donate 200k to Howard 🤣🤣🤣
His wife should divorce him
Steve McNair went to a HBCU and was a starting quarterback in the NFL.He was more successful than any Alabama quarterback has been in the last 40 years
That was in the 80s
@@shkrsimpson44 that was in the mid to late 90s and early 2000s my boi
80’s ? Naw Steve was playing in early 2000 when them and ravens battled . He actually played with the ravens in mid 2000 almost to playoffs
@@Waldo2O5 I was thinking of Warren moon. Either way that was mad long ago.
Amen
That boy Jared is a thinking man. I completely disagree with Channing but I LOVE that he says it. If I keep hearing the point of view that matches mine, I'll stay the same. But when you bring in different perspective, my mind can expand.
Well said Brother , I totally agree
It’s crazy because his point of views are honestly real life decisions people have to make. We all know the right answers to things but choosing to do it is harder than people make it seem
Exactly iron sharpens iron.
And we definitely need different perspectives in the neighborhood. Not continuous monolithic conversations.
I LOVE these guys and show. You are all are doing a phenomenal job. Keep up the great authentic conversations. Love Chef Nancy she brings the female energy. I tell everyone in my circle about this podcast. I watch it on you tube.
Thank you Jared! The players make the program. The players bring the money 💰
Doing a HBCU Tour on my motorcycle (89 schools so far) 😁
Experience has been unbelievable!✊🏿
I wish and pray that these black athletes will start going back to these HBCU'S because the PWI'S only want them for one reason and one reason only and that's for their bottom line... MONEY!
And to put their faces on their websites and flyers to seem “diverse”
You do know that most of the HBCU’s are owned by whites now, right?
U been to Valley? (MVSU)
Channing Crowder hit the nail on the head. Financially how many people who attend HBCUs are giving back to these institutions. Its not just about showing up to homecoming
The Black Alumna gives back but, they need more!!!
He is right about that
Proof is like a Harvard or something like that all the alumni are heavily marketed they prop up there best talent you know WHO comes from there school.
So it's not just giving back social weight matters a lot.
If you hear Beyonce came from blah blah blah college hundreds of thousands of kids will enroll. This is the same formula Howard Uni uses it works now the alumni no longer has to carry or except for the backend if need be...
Money matters but it's not just about the money
@@moebreezy7187 the white people give too trump did as well
We need some guys from HBCUs that actually played in the league when this discussion is had.
Strahan or Shannon Sharpe 🔥
No we don’t fuck HBCU they aren’t as good as other schools
@@aeduannmcclary9854 Reshean Mathis, Robert Mathis, Nick Collins, Antoine Bethea, Darius Leonard, Taron Armstead also.
Love this show bruh..i like how you have different views on various topics💪🏾💯
I don’t always agree with Channing’s take most of the time, but I respect his passion as he vehemently defends his position!
CHAD- man I don’t have time to play politics with them Cr- EXUSE me I almost said the C word! 🤣🤣🤣🐐
😂
🤣🤣 love him
Very good show gentlemen. Great insight and on the whole HBCU debate.
Great conversation. Hopefully can spark a larger push for HBCU building.
I love the addition of Jared Odrick to the crew. I believe his insight provides a different perspective to the conversations and it's cool to hear.
Agreed
This is one of my favorite shows! Everyone is well versed, however Fred is on another level!
Man, I remember him in the league and dude was a dog. Now i'm seeing him in a whole different light. And he stay clean..
He a god
Doesn't say much, but when he speaks you stop whatever you doing and you listen !
Love this show and loved their honesty when they talked about which of them would make it to the hall of fame. “Go get his jacket” 😂
Really starting to like JO with this group! Dude is so smart and his mindset and angles/opinions on different subjects just makes you think.
Fred's opening statement is GOLD!
Fred is gold🥇!
Platinum
Steve McNair had those big time colleges scared when he was doing his thang at Alcorn State!! Espn, Sports Illustrated , USA today following him. The NFL always follows talent!
💯 Florida State wanted him as Safety
Scared? They weren't scared of him. They beat Alcorn every single time. Hell, Alcorn didn't even win the SWAC when he was there.
Steve McNair was good but once he left did I hear about Alcorn like that
@@themansince U missed what I was saying. Steve McNair was putting HBCU's back on the map. He was giving HBCU colleges alot of publicity back then. Every last one of his games was being televised and games were packed with media and fans. Major colleges didn't like that.
@@dequintonwilliams6814 HBCU's always been on the map. Y'all are some fake fans! HBCU sports have always been great! All of the Alcorn games were not on tv. Stop lying! As I said, no FBS school was mad or jealous of Mcnair.
I love your show you guys address a lot of great topics. As a former pro athlete not in football but I relate to so much of what you disguise. I went back and coached at mid school and high school and saw alot of difference in inter city schools and the other systems and the injustice I saw.
But I always want to see everyone get a chance on the same level of playing field
Keep up the great show
This is hands down my favorite podcast
Keep bringing Jared back.. His perspective adds more flavor to the Sauce!!! Love this show.. Still High Quality!!!
Steve McNair was a heisman candidate and went to the super bowl
Alcon State own but some act like you need those big schools. Walter Payton HOFer and many more! 🔥🔥🔥
@@MrKells24 FACTS
That “for real…. For real” from Chad was priceless. My boy was like ok 🤷🏾♂️ conversation over 😂😂😂
Man i love this crew. Fred is so important!
Jared just brings such a great energy that balances everything, This pod is so great
I wish the cast can see this because I feel they are missing the key component. The athletes! see if we who are predominantly the NFL then we can make them come see us. The parents send their kid to hbcu's now the scouts will invest because Alabama fsu Miami Notre dame can't be up because they don't have the athletes