The Greatest Theft in Human History
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- čas přidán 15. 06. 2024
- I share my thoughts on what I believe may very well be the biggest heist that ever occurred in the history of our species.
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The greatest theft in human history is the robbery of our beautiful night sky. When I come home from work and I take a walk through the city, I can barely see any stars and most of the time the lanterns are so bright that they completely block the view and hurt my eyes if I try to stargaze. Darn lightbulbs.
lol
My uncle runs a many thousand acre cattle ranch that has zero man made light visible in any direction, as far as you can see.
My favorite thing to do is to take friends and girlfriends there, tell them to get out of my car and then just shut off all the lights and wait for them to realize why our ancestors were infatuated with the sky.
If your in the US, you gotta move out to the country, in Oklahoma in the smaller towns, it's still very easy to see the stars, and in my town we even have quite a few lights, as long as your about a block or two off the highway, you have almost no interference, love star gazing out here, its perfect
This is why post apocalyptic settings in fiction are so popular and people dream of being in such settings. There is something natural about it when you have only you and your small in group, it speaks to our very humanity and cry for true freedom. We want to see this hypocritical system of double standards and slavery end.
Such deep words
Cool. But a post apocalyptic world would suck. Why? Because we’d have little chance of surviving if it was anything about nukes or AI. This isn’t Fallout or Horizon and we don’t have the technology to deal with any of those issues if they ever escalated to extinction level events. But, I want to be clear, I’m not trying to be rude or anything. Just sharing my opinion on this idea lol.
@@Hedron1027I think you underestimate the sheer resilience of man. He's even more unkillable than rats and roaches.
Also, neither of those scenarios you mentioned are capable of generating an extinction event. Both ai and nuclear warheads are pseudo concepts of fear perpetuated through society by the very same system the original comment was referring to
@@Hedron1027I think you underestimate the sheer resilience of man. He's even more unkillable than rats and roaches.
Also, neither of those scenarios you mentioned are capable of generating an extinction event. both ai and mutual assured destruction are artificial concepts of fear perpetuated through society by the very same system the original comment was referring to
@@Hedron1027I think you underestimate the sheer resilience of man. He's even more unkillable than rats and roaches.
Also, neither of those scenarios you mentioned are capable of generating an extinction event. both ai and mutual assured destruction are artificial concepts of fear perpetuated through society by the very same system the original comment was referring to
I always knew ER was D.B. Cooper
i had to google that lol
I immidiately though this was going to be about D.B. Cooper.
The scariest thing to me, is that no one person can be blamed for "the theft of humanity", rather, it was a gradual devolution that took place over the course of decades upon decades of industrialization. In the quest to make everyday life more simple, the world has become detrimentally more complex. As a result, so have we humans. It's a bizarre cycle when you really delve into it
It wasn’t a quest to make life more simple. It was a quest to end crushing poverty
The greatest theft in human history is when you stole my heart ER
That wasn't me. That was Margaret I swear. She even showed me the jar with your name on it.
I may not necessarily agree with returning to primitive humanity in a literal sense but i can't help but agree with the sentiment.
I'm more of the mind that these power structures must be reshaped for the good of everyone and that our work be done for all mankind rather than states, corporations, etc.
There's something so magical about Pennsylvania! It's absolutely gorgeous. I am totally loving all your nature videos!!!
there is plenty of ugly in PA too just like any other place in society, lol, but yeah there are some spots scattered about that are nice
I think the big theft was the theft of land, as in the idea that land can be owned. For hunter gatherers, the only land ownership was the land you were using. As soon as your tribe moved to another area, that land you were just in was no longer yours.
I recommend anyone interested look up the Piraha native Americans in Brazil, one of the last true hunter gatherer tribes left in the Amazon. They have no religion, no agriculture, their language does not even make use of numbers over three. American Psychologists studied them and concluded that they were far happier and less stressed than the average American.
I kind of agree, however, the earth belongs to no organism, therefore, it and is land never belonged to us.
Greed in general just sucks
@@EphemeralRift That's kinda what I was arguing, that the idea that land *can* be owned was the theft in itself. Land was "owned" only in so much as it was used, and you could easily be pushed out of that land by a whole shwack of reasons (natural disasters, resource depletion, etc.), which would not constitute the modern concept of land ownership at all. Thus hunter gatherer societies like the Indians of the Great Plains basically had no concept of land ownership.
Uncle E, I think you would profoundly love a series of four books called "Secrets of the Forest" by Mark Warren. He's a scholar of Native American culture and survival skills. Unlike a lot of bushcraft books, this set describes how to live without assuming any modern conveniences.
They are a little on the pricey side ($30 each), so I'd be glad to ship them to you if you have a PO Box etc. I found studying and practicing their contents to be very soothing for all the reasons you're discussing here.
lol i'm not poor (i'm also not rich) but yeah i'll try to look into them. just not in the mood for reading anything lately. thx! i will add it to my list :)
I would also be wearing all that to prevent ticks and poison ivy outbreaks! But ER is looking like that guy from Curious George 😀
Ah, I forgot about the poison ivy! And Curious George!! Woot!
Those nature sounds😢
Can’t wait to see the fall colors in these nature videos of yours
ah, i haven't even thought about that!
So at what point in history weren't we killing each other? Tribes fought all the time over resources and land. Even nomadic tribes had conflict with other tribes when they crossed into their territory. So your modern privative tribe, sick of being in conflict with other tribes for resources, sets down roots and builds walls to protect themselves from everyone else. And then gathers food and animals, plants crops to make lives easier for themselves, maybe re-directs a river.
Living is good and more babies are born, so more crops are needed and farming is now a thing again. Other tribes, seeing what you have start doing the same thing. Basically after a few generations we are back to square one because we are intelligent and constantly crave an easier life.
And why not? With the brains we have who wants to live in a tent when we have the mental capacity to live in fricking space. I for one believe in transhumanism and look forward to uploading my mind into a new synthetic body on one of our space colonies near Jupiter. Just a shame I'll be a few generations dead - unless I can get myself frozen :)
Guess we all can't agree on what's best for us, which is another problem in and of itself ;)
@@EphemeralRift I do think that in an anarchist future, there would be multiple societies. As anarchists we agree that hierarchy is shit and should be rejected but there is so many different anarchist ideas(excluding anarcho-capitalism which isn’t anarchism) that I do think there will be different societies.
A deep and meaningful in a deeply beautiful setting. We do live in conflicting times, but at least there is still nature around us.
Ethereal Rant
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Very interesting points!
Quick note- based on dental analyses on the hominid line of ancestry, it looks like our early predecessors first ate plants, and later evolved to include meat in their diet! This is hypothesized due to the regression and shrinking of large back molars, refinement of the incisors, and reduced chewing muscles. Some also argue the expanding brain case, as a diet higher in animal fats might be related to more rapid brain development (if any new info has come to light I'm not sure- it's been a while since my anthropology studies in college)
I Highly Appretiate you Uncle E, Between my local Gym and your CZcams channel has kept me Sane & Alive truthfully
You truly amaze me with how much we think alike, truly Fascinating how i could talk to you for hours on end and feel at peace, By the way im no longer homeless as from Tuesday 7th May 2024, My previous landlord accepted me back to the rental as his renovations is finished, a long 2 years of homelessness has come to an end amongst Australias homeless crisis
Love the wild turkeys purring in the background
This primitivism, or whatever term would best describe it, is all very new to me. I thoroughly enjoy these talks. Also, i havent gotten asmr in a very long time, but for some reason these videos give me crazy levels of asmr! Love the channel!
Hey ER, i am brazilian and your videos help me so much to understand the english language and study. Thanks ❤️
I feel this and often think about this. I feel we need to restructure the entire system But easier said than done. Id love for it to be a blend of nature and still parts of society that are great. Sort of like nature cities, more integrating nature, having ai help us with dead end jobs, freeing some of peoples time while also making sure they dont go poor with something like a basic guaranteed income no strings attached(important part is no strings else it becomes control). Still having dentists and doctors... becuase I also think about life without dentists omg, would be horrendous I think XD. Especially things I went through with a tooth nerve dying and needing a root canal. Horrible pain. Or the women whose babies get stuck in the birth canal and need medical intervention.
I love many parts of what we built as humans, its quite incredible. But I also love and crave nature
Sounds lovely but like most utopian dreams I’m sure it would end in disaster
@@joesheridan9451 idk I dont think its so utopian :) At least not milder versions of this idea. Society has changes so tremendously over time, it will also in the future.
Someone else said this but it sounds great but this would be disastrous. For this everyone would have to think the same and that’s just never gonna happen
@@rhettshanley8712 no not necessarily! :) No reason for everyone to think the same.
Oh god. A lot of people pre 1900s died from tooth infections. Man what a terrible and painful way to die. Absolute torture
Yaaaaay! Just in time for sleep! ❤
I have been following your videos for a while, but this is the first time I truly feel like I want to say: thank you. I agree with you, there's something wrong with the system and how we live our lives in today's age.
Professor Paul is full of knowledge! Glad he decided to venture “outside of the box” doing what he enjoys, all while bringing some enlightenment to society and the world as a whole. I only hope too be as wise as he in my 50s
not wise: it's a combo of smart & dumb
I saw the title and immediately started grinning ear to ear. ALSO the outfit goes HARD 🔥
i imagine the same grin when I'm typing in the title
@@EphemeralRift I feel like it would look like most aphex twin album covers 🤔
I enjoy these gnat side chats.
ba-dum-tss
I wasn’t sure what you means by the greatest theft in human history, but I’m pretty curious to see what metaphorical theft you mean by it. Maybe it has to do with things like freedom or how big companies work these days
There is nothing metaphorical about it, it is true and tangible thing humanity has lost.
it's more tangible than it is metaphysical, bit o' both i guess
@@LornextNot really. The answer to societies problems is not to regress into such a primitive way of living. Industrialized society allows life to thrive.
@@ItsB3enLikeThisNo, it allows life to be exploited and absorbed of its freedoms. Maybe industrial society could’ve been different but we live in the present and capitalism has made industrial society shitty.
Hope alls been well with you ER, despite everything. Still love your catalog.
Despite having lost my hearing in my left ear and being 53 and getting older by the minute, I'm doing as well as one could ask for! haha
I appreciate you sharing! I was giving it some thought while listening, I feel like what we are missing is true community. Like even back in the 1800 people genuinely knew each other and would help each other. Today we don’t have that. I hope that makes sense. Thanks again uncle E!
I mentioned that. But yeah, the further back you go, the more community there was. There is no community today.
@@EphemeralRift yeah I realized that after I wrote it out so now I feel a little silly. I was giving it some thought if there was a way to go back to a life style like this. Truth be told, if we were to you basically have to give up modern medicine which I think is a huge deal break for most people (even though I would healthily say 40% of people just need a change in diet not surgery or meds but you know). The loss of life there oils make this even harder to swallow. What do you think?
@@EphemeralRiftI don’t think community is the problem, it’s this pseudo-individualism of capitalist society.
finding out that me and ER share the same beliefs years after starting to watch his stuff is the most amazing thing that has happened to me in all my 20 years of living
it gets better: you and I aren't the only ones
Wooohooo I've been waiting for this one for ages! I'm so happy that you finally made this video.
Ive been wanting to get into "The Culture" series recently. I hear it dives into things like "what makes a human a human"
If a human could change their physical body into some form of floating squid, would they still be human?
It's not too late to get some of it back. Build a real community of friends who you love and trust and keep those relationships a priority. I'm hoping one day a few of us can own some land or neighboring houses and support our little tribe
I take a nihilistic point of view. There is no "humanity" there is no "authentic community" shit happens. Even back during hunter gatherer times its not like there wasnt conflict with other tribes. Most people prefer security and comfort over hardship and struggle. Say what you will, but industrialized society has secured food and life for more people than ever in history. If we did it your way still we would just be subjecting ourself to the "control" of nature. People would starve, there would be plagues and blight, child mortality would still be extremely common. Have fun in the woods if you want.
we've secured comfort through the destruction of everything else. it's not worth it.
@@gonb3259 I'd say some people that wouldn't be alive today without industrialized society might think its worth it. I think it is.
@@NotoriousTim it'd be much more worth it, if it didn't cause climate change and extinctions
@@gonb3259 hahaha! Okay yeah so you’d rather have disease and dead babies because you think we arnt able to eat bug and berry in woods anymore. Lol
@@gonb3259 My view is that whatever it was worth it depends on where this "startup" will take us in the end. So I suppose ask again in 100 000 000 years (for example dinosaurs lived for almost 200 000 000 years). Even if now it is somewhat bad if in long term it turns out to be way better than what we had before then I would say it was worth it.
Ted posting is getting good now 💚
This video is deep but that’s okay because we have soft serve ice cream.
How do you think we start taking steps to start going back to our humanity/somewhat primitive living as a culture?
you're asking the wrong person lol
I'm 22, this is something I've been wondering about just about my whole life. It's pretty much my life mission to make money to buy as much land as possible to recreate the tribe lifestyle
May someone please explain what happened to Ephemeral, because i have absolutely zero idea what happened
Nothing happened to me! If anything, I've become more... carefree and happy I guess. Back to my roots, having fun, exploring the world kind of thing.
The universe is an infinite set of systems and I am a couch potato :)
One of the hardest and most sinister obstacles to overcome for someone who wants to own land and be self sufficient on it is property tax. The government has made it so you can never really leave the system, you have to come up with at least enough money to pay property tax every year. It also implies that you can never truly own land, as the government can come and put it up for auction if you refuse to pay tax. And the kicker is it funds the public school indoctrination centers. Just a crazy cycle that’s so hard to get free of.
Taxes and "property" / property ownership. The #999,999,999.999th reason why society is shit lol
Property tax needs to exist as long as "owning land" exists. The main issue is the private ownership of land part, that's how you get the conglomerates, that's how you get slavery, through private ownership of land which is used for the benefit of the owners and not collective humanity
100% agree and it’s so nice to hear it articulated by one of my favorites. the longing to be completely separated from modern society and return to that simplistic, natural, beautiful life…but “they” don’t want you to, and try not to allow it, not one bit…
I find myself utterly disgusted in society today, hating that I have to play a part in it, and yet my partner and I are labeled as weird or crazy for wanting to pursue the alternative
woop!
I wanted to say really quickly that while I totally understand this point of view, I don’t think that going back to the beginning is the correct approach. I think it’s a from of nostalgia we feel as a species, longing for a simpler “better” time. This discounts all of the beautiful things we’ve been able to do as a result of this large scale collaboration we’ve agreed to. It leads to shitty things, but these are growing pains in my opinion. Once we learn as a species how to treat each other with empathy on a large scale I think we’ll gain some of that humanity back, but we’ll keep the abilities that large scale collaboration gets us!
When I was a child, I thought as a child. I didn't think I would change either. When I get to be older, I may learn something new. But I hope I can have empathy for my current flawed understanding.
This is discussed in a book called "Ishmael" by Daniel Quinn. It's a quick read.
Rift, i would love if you did something like 'waves crashing asmr' i dont care if its non comentary i just find waves crashing the most relaxing thing ever
uhhh ocean wave sounds? Yup, already did that too like ... 8 years ago? you'll have to search for it
I Was Walking Through Ridley Creek (the pathway near the bathroom shed thing) A Couple Days Ago.🙂This Is Only CZcams Channel I Know Of That Lives in Southeastern Pennsylvania
Ephemeral Rant
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Relying on the land and your hands means you're at the whim of nature and more prone to famine, BUT I get your point. I especially resent that every scrap of land is owned by someone else. You can't pick blueberries without worrying about "trespassing." And there are planes flying by overhead no matter where you go. No peace.
I love these topics and i think about this society what it has become almost daily and while i love all the technology that modern society offers, there are way more negative aspects of modern society than positive 🤔 I'm unemployed and while i had multiple jobs in my life, i have truly never enjoyed work and now that i'm much older, i think i understand why. Working is slavery, no matter how you see it. Sure, you can be boss in your company but then again, you just don't end up being boss without working your way through to one day (a big maybe) to become a boss but eventhough you would now have workers that work for you, you are still slave to society! OK, i could go on and on with this topic, but i think i made my point already... Paul's views on society is very similar to mine and that's why i really enjoy these topics. Keep preaching, Rift. Wise words, indeed!
lol are you my long lost twin? ;) Yup that’s kinda the realization I had in my 30’s and haven’t stopped thinking about it all yet lol. And I’ve been unemployed too. Anyway keep pushing through!
@@EphemeralRift I sure hope so 😂 Anyway, i randomly found out about your channel by finding confort that i didn't get PS5 at launch and that was also my full introduction to ASMR (I only had heard about it) from your video "for those who didn't get PS5 on Xmas" and have been watching your videos regularly since then (old and new). I have seen on comments that some don't like these outdoor videos but they are great alternatives to your ERU videos for example!
I may not agree with most of the things you say but I respect you and what you do for a living
8 billion people and counting are never gonna agree about everything so yeah it's all good lol
i couldn't agree more, its crazy becauese i have thought about this so much. i always tell my parents that most people in my class don't act like people, i just cringe at seeing them repeating the same shit, wearing the same clothes, having the same believes and not think for themselves. "this is what we all as a group find weird/supid/cool/sad" im talking about 16-18 year olds, young "adults" (in the nethelands 18+ so yea) i look around me and only have 2 people that are with me. 2 great friends who are NOT like me, we discuss, we share opinions and exchange believes without putting up this facade that people seem to have. we don't need to act "cool". so please if anyone reads this. start to really THINK! stay out of friendgroups were you put up a version of yourself that isnt you, because altough you might argue "my friends do know me" i see people most of the time not bond with each other, but with there "cool" alter ego's
sorry for the venting but yea
I mean you have a few thousand willing people to take out to the woods and start a new society.
Sign me up!
ha!
holy shit
Another Great Video 🎥 What Else Is New
I want to live here!
Can you do a dinosaur asmr for sleep like talk about facts and stuff please it’s ok if you don’t want to love the asmr
I sincerely enjoy thy art of so called Asmr dear uncle E(somthing the average dark soul npc would say)
Ok, I'm a little tipsy and a librarian, so here's a reading list: Nomadland, Braiding Sweetgrass, Severance, Station Eleven, Animal Vegetable Miracle, and anything by Neal Stephenson. I guarantee you'll get something different from each of them and they're fun to read (except Braiding Sweetgrass can be slow)
Interesting recs!
Ooh, I grew up Catholic, too. Got kicked out of CCE for not taking "it's a mystery" as a valid answer😄
Pretty cool to see the guy who made me sleep 6 years ago doing normal human things now.
You do know that "normal human things" includes being creative, yeah? Ok good. lol
@@EphemeralRift lmao I just meant doing non-asmr content and telling amazing creative stories too :D
Stopped by to check out the view count since n-word gate. Yikes
Views don't mean shit. Meanwhile, I'm still living my best life, creating whatever kind of content I please, and earning a very decent income doing it. So, thanks for checking in, I guess? lolol
To some extent I do agree with you. Every person should have the ability to be self-reliant. Able to grow their own food, fish the waters, raise bees, harvest water and of course - how to fight in self defence.
For how close we are to Transcending as a Species, it's incredulous how much power we have sacrificed. However; I do still believe we need a Government of some form.
at this point in society, yes we need government of some kind. society is a catch 22 at this point in time.
At 13:40 . A popular theory dictates that early humans, similarly to hyenas, evolved as scavengers, eating mostly the marrow of cadavers and gathering, which helped develop a very tolerant stomach, again being very similar to hyenas, animals known for their scavenging lifestyle.
Edit: the thing is that for the extraction of the bone marrow the use of tools was needed, which obviously helped develop our tool-making proficiencies :)
I miss Arkham…
They're still there! The rift to that universe is temporarily out of order due to maintenance is all.
10:25 for the answer
I think the one good thing that came from the advent of agriculture and civilization is art and music. Obviously we had art and music before the invention of farming, but with people able to spend their entire life devoted to art we took it to the next level. Some might see modern music and art as just more meaningless material possessions, but for me it has a higher meaning.
That being said, I agree with the idea that we've lost our humanity. Every time society moves away from the roots of humanity, it seems to be detrimental to everyone. We've lost all sense of community and our value is determined solely by our ability to work and/or the amount of capital we own. We've become obsessed with consuming sugar and simple carbs (as opposed to meat, fruits, nuts, veggies) and our health has suffered dramatically. We've completely lost touch with nature and our unsustainable practices have become the norm.
I would even go so far as to say that the proliferation of art & music in society is just a drug acquired by us/people who lost their humanity and have nothing constructive/fulfilling to do with their time. Triggers the happy chemicals (dopamine, seratonion, whatever) and basically keeps us drugged/distracted from the truth of this video pretty much.
😏 another portrait change..I guess even rifts are a little bit of a perfectionist.
I share your sentiments on much of this, but there are lots of factors that come in to play with this.
We’d have to have a Thanos level instance of depopulation for your ideal system to be feasible. The land mass of the earth is supporting thousands of times more people today than it ever has in the past. All of these lives are supported by industrialization, agriculture, etc. The book “The Wealth of Nations”, though xenophobic (as many of that era were), enlightened me into how modern society was formed.
There are a lot of places in PA, WV, DE where rural land to support a single family can be acquired for a somewhat reasonable price. I’d love to see it be free, but if it was free, then it wouldn’t be available, because someone else would have already taken it. Even indigenous people fought over land use (not ownership).
I’d love to be in your ideal reality, but I realize that I can only get a piece of that by enjoying national parks, national forests, and saving up to one day build my own permaculture homestead.
If the apocalypse happens, then those who survive will enjoy what you are talking about, but it’s not a possibility with the 8+ billion people on the planet today.
Yeah, like I said in the video we've reached the point of no return. I can't imagine how things get better from here.
@@EphemeralRift if it’s any consolation, the world of digital currency is very similar to hunting and gathering once you gain the skills to hunt. They are trying to rein it in, but there are lots of berries to be gathered.
your voice is like butter
so slowly, in time, it'll clog your arteries and give you heart disease? dam.
@@EphemeralRift sign me up for that
Funnily enough I have to go to work for now, so I can't watch the second half of the video until later. My thoughts until now:
You are heavily romanticizing a past you haven't lived. Hunting and gathering, living in small communities like in the middle ages or something is about basic survival. Living only for yourself and your family, not knowing where food will come from tomorrow unless you work the land all day every day, means there will be no leisure, which in this context also involves things like science and advanced medicine, because there will be no time for the specialization in jobs, you described that led to companies existing. Which, by the way, wasn't a nice-to-have thing in the beginning either. Someone else baked the bread, so you could work your body to the point of breaking on other things, because anything else would have likely meant the death of some of the people directly around you, because it would have been a lot harder.
Also consider the fact how much more efficient modern agriculture is and how many millions will have to die until humanity has hit an equilibrium with nature that is able to support the simple more scarcely scattered around community lifestyle you envision. There is too many of us right now to go that route. What's your plan for that?
Here is my bottom line for this for now: Our living standards have been so high for so long now, that in the west there is currently one generation after another growing up without a clear common strife other than the pitfalls of our modern world and it seems like it is making us forget how hard the road was to get to all the niceties we have (for better or worse admittedly) and it makes us yearn for simply something other than what we have as a mental escape exercise. I'm a sailor. I have got a glimpse of an ultimate truth of my own: forces of nature do not negotiate. Or to quote Shinedown: "Quicksand has no sense of humor". There is no scenario in which the future you describe will not be paved with the bones of all those who couldn't make it. All this said, you are right that we have to change and build better social structures again and a better environment for ourselves.
"You are heavily romanticizing a past you haven't lived". No, I'm not.
@@EphemeralRift Sorry. It's a year with a lot going on for me. Anyway! It's been fun typing up a storm in response to the video. Nice little exercise for both brain and fingers.
@@kalimer0968 Hunter gatherers did have fairly decent amount of leisure time (probably it's hard to be certain about this).
You can hear numbers as low as 15 hours of "work" per week but first problem is what do you call work in this context and second it would depend on lot of factors (like for example how easy it would be to survive in any given environment or if you had less than friendly tribes next to you).
@@petrkinkal1509 Sounds a bit like a "if you enjoy what you are doing, work can be like free time"-kinda attitude goes a long way there. :D
But as you said, it's probably hard to pin down.
Sometimes i wish to just live on a boat in the middle of nowhere with just some stuff to fulfill my creativ needs and fish. Normal society is so far away from easy needs is almost sad how we terrorized our human lifes ^^
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Uncle super fell off 😢😢😢
lol "fell off"
ever onward and upward
Taxes?
A lfie more attuned with nature doesn't even mean we have to give up technology. If we align our Civilisation with human needs in mind would be enough. Sadly since that means the 1% wont get richer from that it will never happen without revolution.
not just human needs though. i think we also need to stop thinking about ourselves.
Even if we went back, greed would bring us right back to where we are now.
you're probably right
ER you should read Taoist texts I think you will like Chinese philosophy.
Sigh, so much to read so little time/interest. I'm sure I would!
I wanna start off saying, I am about as fond of you as I can be in the context of an internet personality. I want this to be clear because I may sound hostile later. I am generally a miserable person sick with the world as is. I am a fatalistic nihilist and I suffer living only for the fear of death, otherwise I would be dead by now. So, when I get into these discussions, I naturally read as embittered and resentful.
First thing I am going to assert is that all of life strives for power, I am very Nietzschian in that way. When I say power, I mean of pattern of action that can overcome contrasting or competing forces. Those forces could be of other individuals, society, nature, etcetera. Power can actualize as physical might, intellectual might, deception, technology, political power, etcetera. Now, it’s not that this always works or that examples don’t exist to defy manifesting power. It’s that if a combination of abilities and behaviors aren’t the the greatest of all forces in a given circumstance, then it will inevitably become crushed into a relative rarity with time. Humans do not even have the agency they think they do to resist this, the very molecular interactions in our minds are dictated on a chain of interactions in and beyond our bodies. This power may not even manifest as one could predict or intuitively understand because there is huge macro complexity and nobody has even a percent of the information necessary.
So why are tribes rare relative to modern globalistic economies run by corporate-government hybrids? It’s because the latter resulted from and is the current actualization of a series of patterns that either over came or outcompeted the former more and more. The only ways in which proto civilizations can exist is contingent upon the limitations of modernity, the places it hasn’t or can’t spread to as of now. The most true tragedy isn’t that our humanity has been stolen from is, it’s that the truth of our humanity is for us to organize our behaviors into how we live right now. This, unfortunately, is as faithful a representation of what being human is proven by the fact that it’s reality. The things otherwise imagined are, in actuality, the rejections of humanity.
You recognized that we can’t simply go into nature again. Your reasoning is because we are too entrenched in our current habitats, our way of living right now. Simultaneously we lack what we need to know to live in the wild effectively. I concur with all of this. However, what you didn’t include is the fact that humans can only survive at our current numbers and variable health problems because of modern organization. Just take agriculture, where we can be more productive on the same spaces than the natural counter part many fold. We cant all live in nature at our current numbers even if everyone agreed. Not only is it hard to get any one person to reject modernity, you’d have to accept the culling of billions so that our numbers aren’t too high to make primitive life styles viable.
Regarding being born an atheist or anarchist. For anarchy, I wholly reject this. When you were born, you had total reliance on your parents and everything that happened to you was involuntary impositions of your care takers. Growing up, you looked to the authority of your elders and would often test your limits. Those limits would be made known, assuming your care takers were competent. In tribes, this was no different, hierarchy still existed due to how growth and development in any community occurs. The only difference is the scale. Now you may think “yeah, well, I would have cared about my trine so it was voluntary.“ It wouldn’t be voluntary in a tribe for the same reason being able to remove yourself from society today is not voluntary. The utility and co-reliance of those around you is simply too high to risk the wilds alone, regardless of the scale your society exists in. Cooperation in nature is simply too strong of a pattern to not be a dominant power dictating the behaviors of most that can do it.
You are born an atheist, however that’s simply because you are born unbelieving in all “a posteriori” things. You are also born with no belief in the suns existence as well for example. You are born with these drives though, your emotions and wanting. Apart of this is a need for an absolute direction, an ultimate aim to prioritize. This is very important because it’s the basis for all our value assessments of what is or isn’t worth doing. I don’t believe this is unique in humans. I think all animals have it, but most are not intelligent enough to question a very basic sense of direction. Ever creative, we can, and subsequently we became ever more elaborate with our direction. Religion was something that did the trick for most, that satisfied this drive for most and for the the longest. This was dependent upon knowing too little though. Our search for a greater understanding of reality drives religion into further irrelevance. Unfortunately, we had nothing but the pursuit of hedonistic progress to replace it so we could satisfy our drive for an absolute direction. Unlike religion, this hasn’t worked as well. Turns out that simply satisfying our immediate desires as is a little better is a dead end in terms of direction. So what is there left but to realize that all is a meaningless waste? If nothing seems like a particularly compelling direction but to avoid death, what has any value? What true virtues are there? What could possibly satisfy once the novelties of the senses reach their limits? This was the job of spirituality for the tribesman. It strange to me how you so pleasantly reject religion when it’s something you’d be bound to love if you weren’t corrupted by modernity.
Lastly, there is no such thing as “freedom.” You are always caged by your circumstances, and those circumstances interact with your physical hardware to always compel a particular result. Your conscious self will always perceive burdens and challenges in all things and feed you contentment just sparsely enough to suffer longer for the next chance as contentment for another brief moment. What people mean by freedom is either from something or to do something. Because you will always be subject to something or be unable to do something, the feelings of limitation swill always establish themselves. You don’t think people in primitive society didn’t have a similar feeling of longing from something or to do something all the time? It’s a large part of how humanity has gotten to now. It’s easy to feel romantic about things we have zero experience in.
Well I'm not romanticizing anything. Aside from you being free to have your own thoughts and opinions on the matter, and aside from what I've already said, there's plenty of stuff that's been documented about how happy/happier primitive/indigenous people have been even when they didn't have much. Anyway, hardships abound in both primitive/modern society, but modern society has more ills.
I personally hate city life and have always had an appeal towards living in smaller communities away from it all
I agreed with you a long time ago by another name. I was hopeful for a solution back then. I still agree with you, but my idea of a solution changed the minute all the geopolitical undercurrents got exposed. Once the danger that currently surrounds us has subsided, I firmly believe there can be a solution, but it will be a difficult matter of getting to the solution without harming anyone on many different levels.
By another name?
@@rhettshanley8712 I just realized that maybe you are implying something to do with pronouns. No. And settle down if that is the case.
@@toniwilson6210are you on drugs. Neither your comment or your reply are comprehensible by human beings.
Rift PLEASE!!! Make another fallout 3 let’s play!! I have been watching the old 4 for years!!!!
lol we'll see
I very much encourage you to try to be more self sufficient you may find that you are happier. Start a garden with herbs and vegetables. Farming isn’t a bad thing in concept. Chickens would much rather be in an enclosed pasture with minimal threat of being ripped open by a coyote than in the wilderness I would presume at least. These small learning jumps actually make you feel like you’re accomplishing something. Heck you could even move to a more rural home with a couple of acres that is cheaper than most houses in the city. Just some thoughts that could lead to more happiness.
Chickens! funny you mention that, I looked into the local laws/ordinances about keeping chickens and yeah so much for that, too much of a hassle lol
Good Now ER
I think people should be given a choice instead of forced to live a certain way. Creating modern farming villages or forest tribes that take in anyone that is willing and more attuned to a natural lifestyle.
Industrial society and it's future.
"uR jUsT PuLLiNg bErRieS aNd nUtZ" mother nature ain't all sunshine and rainbows if you hangout with her long enough
Google Uncontacted Peoples. You're welcome.
@EphemeralRift Look up Chris Mcandless . You're welcome.
life sucks buddy but you gotta realize they’re are still un contacted tribes living full hunter gather lifestyles. Just because someone died definitely doesn’t mean it’s impossible
Bwaaahh haaaa blast
Would you know if you were gradually losing your sanity?
@@fotiacruz194 Would you know if you were gradually losing your sanity?
@fotiacruz194 Would you know if you were gradually losing your sanity?
So by now I'm guessing this...isn't satire after all? I'm confused.
Confused about... what? Now *I'M* confused lol
@@EphemeralRift Yeay! Let's all be confused together then! :D
I wasn't sure if you meant everything you said in this video or if you were being 100% serious. I'm admittedly bad at picking up on deadpan humour sometimes, but at the same time, debating what plagues the world and the current generations is something very interesting to me. So, I wasn't sure if I was adding to a real conversation in any way, or if I was unwittingly making myself the punchline.
The Industrial Revolution and its consequences has been a disaster for the human race
Amen.
Theft of the commons? Nice.
are you okay?
(checking myself) uhhh yeaaahhh why wouldn't I be??? (confused look)
What's your political ideology comrade?
FIRST !!!!
The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
pretty much
Ты поставил мой любимый цвет красный когда мы уколим палец какой цвет крови красный но не голубой как вы себе предсиавили .
watching this while playing 7 days to die and I'm like "damn, he's kinda right"
Who cares what an objective truth is when they effect me so deeply that no change can ever happen? I want change, but i do not think that any meaningful difference will happen in my lifetime. Maybe because i was born after the technology boom and before interspace travel or whatever, is the stagnation in society i feel just internal reflection or the truth of my despair or both?
I want community and nature to return more than anything, or i want to return to it, but i dont know that its possible for our society.
Bro keeps changing his profile picture
Are you new here?
@@EphemeralRift haha, no was here since candy man 2, but really started watching religiously after the visiting hours video.
I get your point but i dont agree, itd be cool to discuss that with you through the comment section
Regardless another a nice watch, love your stuff man
i'm sure millions of people disagree. that's fine. and as much as i'd love to, i can't, don't have time to, get into discussions here beyond a few sentences in a comment. but feel to leave yours and maybe i'll see it!