Couldn’t have made a better video mate. I watched your video, went to my local Pinch a Penny, bought a replacement unit, took a picture of the existing wiring set up, made sure the power was off to the unit with a voltage detector after cutting the breaker off, and replaced it in 10 minutes. Works perfectly and saved probably $100 in labor costs. Well done!!
After 18 years our pool timer gave up. I forwarded your video to my husband, he pulled the original unit apart, ordered a new timer from eBay, and easily installed it thanks to your video. 😉
Unfortunately mine turns off but not on. The On tab doesn't look damaged. This is a very helpful video and well done. For those who would rather replace the entire thing look in the lower right corner at 6:07 and you will see (upside down) T104. That's the entire unit. Just get that instead of wasting 20-30 for just the motor when the whole shebang is $55.
I watch a lot of instructional videos, and yours ranks right up there at or near the top! Thanks so much for taking the time to share your knowledge in such a patient and clear manner. Giddyup…
305 Miami it turns out whoever installed my original timer had the load wires backwards, installed a new one and had the same problem. Carefully checked the wiring and “wallah”!! Lol
This was very helpful, just seeing how the unit is attached and how easy to detach. Our unit stopped being adjustable, the time disk would not pull out or push in - frozen in some way. After seeing your video, I was able to tip it out and squirt some penetrating oil back onto the shaft (fortunately we have another working unit so I could see what slides and what doesn't), worked it a bit, and it loosened up. I then applied a heavier oil (just some household 3-1 type) to hopefully keep it lubed, although it might actually deserve a grease of some kind.
Yes, great video for replacement. However mine just needed a new ON pin as they wear out and bend after many years usage. Cost a few dollars. So check your pins first if motor is running normally.
I watched the video then went to pool store for the timer. They recommended changing the clock motor which costs less. I could see the gears NOT turning as described. Changing the motor was two screws, two wires, 10 minutes and done ..... costs about half.
Just a couple of comments. The back of the metal plate may or may not have the part number of the complete mechanism. WG1573-5E is for the clock only. Intermatic has a good rundown of the different complete mechanisms-the real key is the voltage. In the video, it's 208/277, and the T104M is the part number (mine didn't have the T104M designation anywhere on the plate). If the part number is appended with a P then it includes a plastic enclosure, and an E indicates an enclosure. There are other part numbers that will fit the same enclosure but would not be the correct voltage, and there is also a mechanism that has pool heater protection. They'll all fit, but only the T104M would be the correct part number.
Thanks man this is real helpful . i have 2 timers one for the primary pump and the other for the secondary skimmer pump that has the little robot connected to it. The primary pump timer is out. I will look for the part number this weekend. I thought at first the numbers were on the little mechanism but its actually the numbers on the corner t104. Thanks again this is very helpful.
You have the most detailed instructions I could find on YT. My dial is not turning and I see that the electrician did not put a ground wire on timer faceplate. I will shut power off and then see what he did inside. I have the power coming from a GFI breaker in my panel, then to a shielded switch on the side of my house near the pool, and then to the timer. And then over to a covered plug on a panel where I plug my pump into. Everything is built to code, but for some reason the timer dial doesn't turn. I have a 24' round above ground pool with 1hp pump. I'll try to get back here to tell you what I find. Thanks for your video!
Thank you for a good video. Also, I could hear you very well, which is problem with half the videos on CZcams. Good quality and good technical presentation. Dave
I haven’t had ours for even a year and it’s already not working. I see my farthest gear turning behind that hole but not all of them? Does that mean it’s burnt out?
great video, thanks. Question is : when I look through hole in plate at the timer gears, I see one moving The one farthest back from plate. Does this mean the timer motor is bad and just replace it for $18? or replace whole thing for $78 + shipping?
Mine was not moving the time dial at all. I checked the motor dials in the back as you suggested and it seemed not all gears were rotating so I just ordered the complete set up on Amazon for $72...Hopefully it will fix the issue....
Turning that main breaker off is not enough to be sure you’re safe. You need to put a voltmeter or voltage detector across the phase and neutral of the timer to be sure it is not sourced elsewhere.
Greg Faris I was scrolling thru these comments hoping to see someone mention this. Not taking anything away from his explanation. However posting a video like this and not strongly suggesting to be 100% certain there’s no power is irresponsible.
great video. I have a question. My timer works but it makes a very loud thumping/ticking sound all day. It is located in my basement next to the breakers, but I can hear it clearly in the room above it. Any idea what could be causing the sound? Is it best to just replace the full unit? I assume they are normally very quiet. Thanks!
Very nice video and thanks for taking the time! Quick question, are the same colored wires interchangeable or does order matter? (For example in the three red wires in your timer).
Thank you for the video! I got a new part at Home Depot (mine was WG1573-5 and could only find WG1573-5E). The pool is on so I must have done something right. Now to see if it turns off.
Thanks for the video - really appreciate the walk-through. However, my timer IS working - but it won't switch ON. Could it be that something that the ON trigger needs to flip could be broken? Or would buying new triggers potentially help? I'm trying to troubleshoot before I take the only timer out an purchase a replacement. Thanks for your help.
i can see behind the plate and one of the little gears back there is spinning very slowly but the rest of them arent moving at all, is this still indicating that i would need to replace the timer mechanism?
What if the gear in the back is spinning but the ones in front of it are still... are all of them supposed to be moving or just one... what would your diagnosis be?
Great Video! My house was recently hit by Lightning. I had a GFI blow out for my pool light and also my Jandy AuqaPure Salt system (which is on this timer) Keeps blowing the 2.5amp time delay fuses as soon as I flip this timer switch to "on". I see the gears turning but the timer is constantly off. Thinking of just replacing this as its the next logical (cheapest test) Do you think this thing could be shorted out and causing my fuses to blow?
Is the timer noisy, i mean does the timer make a noise ? if it's still working shld i hear clicking or timing sounds like a clock wen running ? My timer trouble is it turns off pool filter daily at night but doesn't turn on in morning ? Stay safe Thank You
Hey I just found your video because I have the same timer and everything works but it stops at 6 am that's when it should come on but the timer just stops any ideas
Our power grid has been for crap over the last year. We have a whole home surge protector but this timer apparently failed to know this (sarcasm) and has crapped out yet again. This is two in the last 5 years. Not really that dependable and quite frankly aggravating to keep replacing. I wish we would have a better solution.
I can hear my motor working. But for some reason won’t trigger on and off at the setting screw things. And I checked they are on and tight. Any recommendations?
My pool pump died. I hoped that it was the timer as it was cheaper than a new motor. I installed the new timer. I was wrong, it was the capacitors in the motor (shorted out by a huge scorpion). The pool guy took off all the wires to the new timer. When he re-installed the motor, he neglected to replace the two wires for the override switch that is used outside of the normal pump operation. My question is what terminals do I connect the override switch?
Great video but unfortunately my pond/waterfall timer does not have a model number. I only have the model number of the motor which is WG1570-4. Will any of the timer model numbers T104M, T103, T101M or T103M work for my purposes?
Probably not. If it's keeping the right time the dial must be moving and I think you can assume the gears are not seized. I'm not an expert on these things...just figured it out by poking around and trying to learn without calling a repair person.
Have the exact timer to run my Polaris. I can feel the plastic gear turning (same as my booster pump timer) but the timer itself isn't moving or advancing in time. What could be wrong?
Hey quick question--maybe a wiring thing, I hope. The timer runs but when it hits the OFF know the whole thing turns off instead of just the pool pump. It runs fine when you turn it on and keeps time till it hits off....any thoughts? thanks so much
If I need to run my pool timer 24 hours do I just remove my stoppers and turn the manual switch to the “on position” until I turn it off? Can’t find this answer anywhere. Thanks!
Heads Up: After determining that the motor was not turning, I saw that the two white cables supplying 110V to the motor were only twisted around and not soldered to the motor connectors and were somewhat loose. I soldered both connections and everything was fine. I don't know if this was a manufacturing defect or just a careless design. Fortunately, I did not have to buy a new one.
If you pull the disc out you can rotate it to set the time. There should be text on it stating such. Something like, "PULL OUT DIAL TURN TO SET TIME" Least that's what it says on my Intermatic time clock. Then it should snap back down again when you let it go.
Ive had a box for years now without problem until now. Timing clock works fine, the cam does not trip on the lights, so i literally see the green arrow go past the silver clock hand without kicking on any lighting....
My time clock runs but just does not have enough power to push through turning on and off. It hangs up at the stops on the dial. I pulled it all apart once and oiled it up and that got it going again. I guess I have to do that now.
If my timer is working but the on-tripper isn't turning on the pool pump, what is the problem? Is there a problem I can fix without buying a new tripper?
My box has to be turned on manually. Then the gears turn and it goes off great, but will not come back on on its own. I replaced it and the new one does the same thing. What could cause this?
Place a long screw driver against the yellow face plate with power on and you can hear the stepper motor running, (or not). No need to stick your fingers in behind. Also you can remove the yellow face plate and see if the "on cam" has worn away.
Couldn’t have made a better video mate. I watched your video, went to my local Pinch a Penny, bought a replacement unit, took a picture of the existing wiring set up, made sure the power was off to the unit with a voltage detector after cutting the breaker off, and replaced it in 10 minutes. Works perfectly and saved probably $100 in labor costs. Well done!!
After 18 years our pool timer gave up. I forwarded your video to my husband, he pulled the original unit apart, ordered a new timer from eBay, and easily installed it thanks to your video. 😉
I just finished watching a couple of other videos before this. Thank you for including the detail on how to identify which part.
Unfortunately mine turns off but not on. The On tab doesn't look damaged. This is a very helpful video and well done. For those who would rather replace the entire thing look in the lower right corner at 6:07 and you will see (upside down) T104. That's the entire unit. Just get that instead of wasting 20-30 for just the motor when the whole shebang is $55.
I watch a lot of instructional videos, and yours ranks right up there at or near the top! Thanks so much for taking the time to share your knowledge in such a patient and clear manner. Giddyup…
Mark,
I have viewed many videos covering this problem. However, your video is one of the best, and I recommend it to all.
Watched your video every year for the past 3 years... I think I’m actually going to replace it this year!!
next year keep us posted...lol
305 Miami it turns out whoever installed my original timer had the load wires backwards, installed a new one and had the same problem. Carefully checked the wiring and “wallah”!! Lol
I rarely comment. This was an absolutely perfect instructional video. Thank you!
Thanks!
Thank you very much! Thorough, straight to the point and fast and now I dont need to pay someone for basically nothing! Thanks again!!
Thanks! Great video! Easy to understand and follow. My timer has not been turning on at the time as specified.
Thank you. You saved me some cash. And my family are enjoying the pool again.
This was super helpful! I couldn’t figure out why my timer wasn’t running and this fixed my problem in minutes! Thank you!
You're welcome. Glad the video was helpful.
Just replaced timer. Very easy. Your video was very helpful
Thank you
Thanks, for taking the time to teach us!! Great job
This was very helpful, just seeing how the unit is attached and how easy to detach. Our unit stopped being adjustable, the time disk would not pull out or push in - frozen in some way. After seeing your video, I was able to tip it out and squirt some penetrating oil back onto the shaft (fortunately we have another working unit so I could see what slides and what doesn't), worked it a bit, and it loosened up. I then applied a heavier oil (just some household 3-1 type) to hopefully keep it lubed, although it might actually deserve a grease of some kind.
Glad it was helpful.
thank you for the video! Ended up having to replace my unit so, followed this video step by step and was super easy to change out!
Glad it helped!
This was very helpful and I was able to replace my timer in a number of minutes.
Excellent video!! Right to the point - easy to understand & just saved me a lot of money!! Thank you!!
I replaced the gear motor for under $20 and saved a bunch of money. Got the part a Grainger locally too
Thank you FOR SHARING. You made IT SO EASY. I LOVE YOU.
Absolute best “how to” video I’ve ever seen. How do I subscribe to your other clips? Thank you!!!
Yes, great video for replacement. However mine just needed a new ON pin as they wear out and bend after many years usage. Cost a few dollars. So check your pins first if motor is running normally.
My timer seems to be working fine but same thing, it won't turn on but will turn off..Need to find that ON pin..
Excellent video. Saved me so much time. Thank you. Straight quick and simple
I watched the video then went to pool store for the timer. They recommended changing the clock motor which costs less. I could see the gears NOT turning as described. Changing the motor was two screws, two wires, 10 minutes and done ..... costs about half.
Thanks! That is the info I was really looking for ... how to repair it, mot replace it.
Thanks for this great video! you literally saved me over 300 dollars!
Glad it was helpful.
Best instructions ever!
Well done. Thank you for sharing your knowledge on this.
Just a couple of comments. The back of the metal plate may or may not have the part number of the complete mechanism. WG1573-5E is for the clock only. Intermatic has a good rundown of the different complete mechanisms-the real key is the voltage. In the video, it's 208/277, and the T104M is the part number (mine didn't have the T104M designation anywhere on the plate). If the part number is appended with a P then it includes a plastic enclosure, and an E indicates an enclosure. There are other part numbers that will fit the same enclosure but would not be the correct voltage, and there is also a mechanism that has pool heater protection. They'll all fit, but only the T104M would be the correct part number.
Excellent video. Well organized and very clear instructions.
Glad it was helpful!
Excellent. This really helps. Thank you!
Very nice video and explanation. Thanks so much for sharing.
Thanks man this is real helpful . i have 2 timers one for the primary pump and the other for the secondary skimmer pump that has the little robot connected to it. The primary pump timer is out. I will look for the part number this weekend. I thought at first the numbers were on the little mechanism but its actually the numbers on the corner t104. Thanks again this is very helpful.
You should do more like this. Very clearly explained. Good job! Thank you!
You have the most detailed instructions I could find on YT. My dial is not turning and I see that the electrician did not put a ground wire on timer faceplate. I will shut power off and then see what he did inside. I have the power coming from a GFI breaker in my panel, then to a shielded switch on the side of my house near the pool, and then to the timer. And then over to a covered plug on a panel where I plug my pump into. Everything is built to code, but for some reason the timer dial doesn't turn. I have a 24' round above ground pool with 1hp pump. I'll try to get back here to tell you what I find. Thanks for your video!
Awwww, sweet. Thank you for this!!
You're a great teacher. Thank you!
That's what you always say
Perfect example for troubleshooting. Thank you
Trouble shooting he told you how to install it
Brilliant presentation, easy to follow...
Super love this video! Thank you, thank you, thank you for posting this! Awesome job explaining this!
What if the timer is working but the pump still doesn’t kick on or off?
I wish you would of clarified if both plastic gears need to be moving or only one (the back one).
Thank you for a good video. Also, I could hear you very well, which is problem with half the videos on CZcams. Good quality and good technical presentation. Dave
Simple explaining, great viewing.
I haven’t had ours for even a year and it’s already not working. I see my farthest gear turning behind that hole but not all of them? Does that mean it’s burnt out?
Well done
great video, thanks. Question is : when I look through hole in plate at the timer gears, I see one moving The one farthest back from plate. Does this mean the timer motor is bad and just replace it for $18? or replace whole thing for $78 + shipping?
Ever get an answer to this? I too only have the furthest gear moving only.
I’d replace the whole thing. It’ll save you time in the long run once the only working gear goes too
is happening to me too! I can hear the motor running but it won't turn the front plate. I replacing the whole thing.
Very detailed and helpful explanation. Thanks!
Mine was not moving the time dial at all. I checked the motor dials in the back as you suggested and it seemed not all gears were rotating so I just ordered the complete set up on Amazon for $72...Hopefully it will fix the issue....
Turning that main breaker off is not enough to be sure you’re safe. You need to put a voltmeter or voltage detector across the phase and neutral of the timer to be sure it is not sourced elsewhere.
Greg Faris I was scrolling thru these comments hoping to see someone mention this. Not taking anything away from his explanation. However posting a video like this and not strongly suggesting to be 100% certain there’s no power is irresponsible.
Thanks for the nice video, it will help me a lot when I replace my timer.
You are the man!!! Thanks
Glad to help
Thank you. So tired of trying to remember to turn on & off. Great video.
Thank you.
wow great video
I have the same exact as yours. Where could i buy a new one?
great video.
I have a question. My timer works but it makes a very loud thumping/ticking sound all day. It is located in my basement next to the breakers, but I can hear it clearly in the room above it.
Any idea what could be causing the sound? Is it best to just replace the full unit? I assume they are normally very quiet.
Thanks!
Thank you!!
Very nice video and thanks for taking the time!
Quick question, are the same colored wires interchangeable or does order matter? (For example in the three red wires in your timer).
very clear explanation, helpful!
Thank you for the video! I got a new part at Home Depot (mine was WG1573-5 and could only find WG1573-5E). The pool is on so I must have done something right. Now to see if it turns off.
Thank you very much for your excellent presentation. Very good.
Thanks for the video - really appreciate the walk-through. However, my timer IS working - but it won't switch ON. Could it be that something that the ON trigger needs to flip could be broken? Or would buying new triggers potentially help? I'm trying to troubleshoot before I take the only timer out an purchase a replacement. Thanks for your help.
Did you ever find out a solution? I’m having the same issue.
There is only one gear turning. Is that normal or are all gears suppose to be turning?
i can see behind the plate and one of the little gears back there is spinning very slowly but the rest of them arent moving at all, is this still indicating that i would need to replace the timer mechanism?
What if the gear in the back is spinning but the ones in front of it are still... are all of them supposed to be moving or just one... what would your diagnosis be?
Great Video! My house was recently hit by Lightning. I had a GFI blow out for my pool light and also my Jandy AuqaPure Salt system (which is on this timer) Keeps blowing the 2.5amp time delay fuses as soon as I flip this timer switch to "on". I see the gears turning but the timer is constantly off. Thinking of just replacing this as its the next logical (cheapest test) Do you think this thing could be shorted out and causing my fuses to blow?
Is the timer noisy, i mean does the timer make a noise ? if it's still working shld i hear clicking or timing sounds like a clock wen running ? My timer trouble is it turns off pool filter daily at night but doesn't turn on in morning ? Stay safe
Thank You
Hey I just found your video because I have the same timer and everything works but it stops at 6 am that's when it should come on but the timer just stops any ideas
Thanks!
Can you the link in the description for the product.
Our power grid has been for crap over the last year. We have a whole home surge protector but this timer apparently failed to know this (sarcasm) and has crapped out yet again. This is two in the last 5 years. Not really that dependable and quite frankly aggravating to keep replacing. I wish we would have a better solution.
I can hear my motor working. But for some reason won’t trigger on and off at the setting screw things. And I checked they are on and tight. Any recommendations?
Nice! Thanks to you, easy as pie. Kudos!
you are the best i love it
Thank you so much. You did great job
This was a great tutorial! Thanks for the help!
My pool pump died. I hoped that it was the timer as it was cheaper than a new motor. I installed the new timer. I was wrong, it was the capacitors in the motor (shorted out by a huge scorpion). The pool guy took off all the wires to the new timer. When he re-installed the motor, he neglected to replace the two wires for the override switch that is used outside of the normal pump operation. My question is what terminals do I connect the override switch?
Great video but unfortunately my pond/waterfall timer does not have a model number. I only have the model number of the motor which is WG1570-4. Will any of the timer model numbers T104M, T103, T101M or T103M work for my purposes?
I'm not sure, Jim. Sorry.
I wish you explain to fix if the motor is working and the dial moves but gets such when it reaches a tripper
excellent video very informative , thanks for posting.
If it's keeping the right time of day, is there any need to feel for the gears moving?
Probably not. If it's keeping the right time the dial must be moving and I think you can assume the gears are not seized. I'm not an expert on these things...just figured it out by poking around and trying to learn without calling a repair person.
Thanks professor
Have the exact timer to run my Polaris. I can feel the plastic gear turning (same as my booster pump timer) but the timer itself isn't moving or advancing in time. What could be wrong?
Hey quick question--maybe a wiring thing, I hope. The timer runs but when it hits the OFF know the whole thing turns off instead of just the pool pump. It runs fine when you turn it on and keeps time till it hits off....any thoughts? thanks so much
Replaced a brand new timer. It’s not spinning in back. Need to replace the timer again?
If I need to run my pool timer 24 hours do I just remove my stoppers and turn the manual switch to the “on position” until I turn it off? Can’t find this answer anywhere. Thanks!
dontrunmusic yes. It’s as easy as that
Changed my motor but still not turning on at the set time. Only manually. What can it be ?
Replaced the timer, but the gears on the new timer still don’t turn. Maybe this is power supply issue?
Heads Up: After determining that the motor was not turning, I saw that the two white cables supplying 110V to the motor were only twisted around and not soldered to the motor connectors and were somewhat loose. I soldered both connections and everything was fine. I don't know if this was a manufacturing defect or just a careless design. Fortunately, I did not have to buy a new one.
Well done!
Mine is running 2 hours behind what do you recommend on a slow running timer?
If you pull the disc out you can rotate it to set the time. There should be text on it stating such. Something like, "PULL OUT DIAL TURN TO SET TIME" Least that's what it says on my Intermatic time clock. Then it should snap back down again when you let it go.
Good film.TU
Ive had a box for years now without problem until now. Timing clock works fine, the cam does not trip on the lights, so i literally see the green arrow go past the silver clock hand without kicking on any lighting....
My time clock runs but just does not have enough power to push through turning on and off. It hangs up at the stops on the dial. I pulled it all apart once and oiled it up and that got it going again. I guess I have to do that now.
Where can I find the kind I have
WG1573-5E
That on the back of the motor
???
Great video
Thanks!
If my timer is working but the on-tripper isn't turning on the pool pump, what is the problem? Is there a problem I can fix without buying a new tripper?
My box has to be turned on manually. Then the gears turn and it goes off great, but will not come back on on its own. I replaced it and the new one does the same thing. What could cause this?
Place a long screw driver against the yellow face plate with power on and you can hear the stepper motor running, (or not). No need to stick your fingers in behind. Also you can remove the yellow face plate and see if the "on cam" has worn away.
If the on cam has worn away, do you replace the motor?
Thank you so much!!!!