Why Would a Rose Change Color?
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- čas přidán 22. 05. 2021
- What would you think if your garden rose suddenly bloomed in a different color or shape of flower? There are couple of good explanations of why this could really happen. Some people explain is as "cross pollination" - no, that's not on the possible causes, and I'll explain why.
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Climbing red rose by Anna Reg (CC BY-SA 3.0 AT) - Jak na to + styl
BTW, I hadn't noticed while shooting or editing - at 1:57 it's my dog wandering about in the background, not a coyote!
hahaha..smack me silly..was zoning in on the pink roses on your left..very beautifull
@@rot-kaiser31 Me too. Then after 5th try that's when I saw it 🌹🌹🌹
Everyone knows a Rose is a lady and a lady can always change her mind💕
Lol so true haha
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Lovely ❤️
Love that. Lol
Now I totally understand what is sport. Thank you!
The yellow apricot color is gorgeous!! 💛💛🧡🤍🏵️
I just planted a white iceberg floribunda. I sure hope it stays white! side note: I sure like those green tires in your background. Nice!
The flowers on our rose in our backyard in Virginia had been orange for many years but they turned red this year.
Years and years ago, I bought a Parfuma Bliss rose, which unhappily died. The next year I thought it had come back, but the roses were red. That's how I met Dr. Huey. He was nearly indestructible (it took years, by the end I almost had mixed feelings), and I definitely understand why he got chosen as root stock!
Very informative. Love all your videos and thanks for putting the names of roses on screen. That helps a lot. They are so beautiful !! ❤️🌹🌹
Thanks Jin. My pleasure
Always very informative Jason love your videos 👍
Thank you so much for this.
I was looking for an answer and a solution as to why my rose plant went from a beautiful apricot shrub to a red vining plant.
Tomorrow, I prune.
Best of luck!
It's possible the rootstock took over.
Very interesting video! I now completely understand what a sport is.
Good one, I did not understand about types of rootstock until now, thank you so much
Thank you for sharing. Very interesting. As always
Very interesting, like always learning tons thanks to you… been more careful about suckers and color variations.
Blessings
I love the idea the painted tires , the blend nicely with the landscape 😊
Thanks - I'm pretty happy with how they're filling out.
Just LOVE your work!
I really appreciate it. This was really needed❤
Absolutely lovely!
Thanks for the explanation, some of my dark red roses turned pink. I was mortified and did not understand why. My orange roses normally turn whitish yellow as soon as the open fully. I think that is normal but I like to keep the real colors!
Fascinating as always, great info
Thanks!
Thanks for another informative video Jason :) I once had a rose (unsure of the variety) that started out as a deep red and had branches with pinkish blooms. Those branches took over so I got rid of the entire bush not realizing I needed to cut those out at the base or under :(
Not fun!
Omg thank you soooooo much!!! My favorite channel!!!!
Very much my pleasure
My dahlias change color after heavy stress. I believe they're reverting to a heartier genetic line.
That's really interesting!
Thank you!! I’ve been searching for this exact information! My coral knockout rose bush has a sport variegation growing on a stem. I propagated a bunch of stemcuttings and 1 of them has grown. I’m excited to see if it grows the same creamy colored rose!
Crossing my fingers for you. It sounds like a nice variation.
Thankyou for speaking on roses in pots.....I have a west porch in Alabama. In senior housing can't plant in yard.....hope mine do ok in pot I purchased them in
I also have a huge striped Rosamunde bush that I planted more than 15 years ago and it hasn’t reverted at all. In fact it still has pink and white stripes. I call it the candy cane rose
Nice. I had to repurchase Rosa mundi because the original plant has so completely reverted to gallica officinalis. Good to hear there are stable specimens out there.
How very interesting. This is currently happening to one of my camellias. I think it must be a sport, because I have one branch with bright red blooms on an otherwise white plant. Furthermore, the flower structure is totally different. Strangely beautiful!
Wonderful
I garden for several families and many of them have multiple Dr. Hueys and the reason is that they purchased numerous David Austin roses. I am in 5a to 6a and Huey grafted roses have to be planted very deeply or they making their presence known.
Frankly, I recommend against buying Austin roses. The late David Austin was moving towards own root but that program has been discontinued.
I planted two white rose bushes three years ago and the “iceberg” floribunda bush turned dark pink/red. Even the petal size, shape and number of petals changed on it. It’s as if I completely changed the bush. The other white bush is still the same.
I also have an apricot colored bush next to the one that changed from white to pink/red that turned yellow
Very interesting! I planted 3 Knockout Drift roses about 6 years ago. They never looked as pretty as their pictures (whitish with yellow centers) but all of a sudden this year half the bushes have turned multi shades of pink. I can't figure out who grows them but I assume they are grafted because they were very new to the market when I bought them and are mass produced for the big box stores. Thank you :)
My pleasure Suze
oooh, thank you so much. good to know..
I’m new to gardening and I was very confused when my purple mini roses & white hibiscus both started blooming bright pink flowers.
Surprisingly I can’t find much information online for why or how to prevent it. But this video helps narrow down the list a bit 😅
I have this same issue!! I’m looking for the answer as well because I loved my bright purple roses. The pink is nice but the color of the purple was absolutely breathtaking.
@@Batzybatz EXACTLY SAME ISSUE! its kinda scary...
Best rose to buy for fragrance. All the big box stores only sell non-fragrant varieties. Thank you!
It's hit-and-miss by the breeding of the rose. With some luck and guidance you can still find fragrant roses (even in the big-box stores). Have a look at 'Beverly' for instance, which is fairly widely distributed and has a wonderful scent. Your best resource is: helpmefind.com, kind of a Wikipedia for rose varieties. Have a look at what's locally available at your garden centers and take the time to look them up. Helpmefind will generally rate (based on community feedback) a rose as "strongly", "moderately", "lightly" scented or "none".
Fraser Valley Rose Farm thank you so much for this info. I greatly appreciate that you shared your knowledge and time with me. Be blessed and highly favored by the Lord.
Thanks so much for such informative vids! Could you also possibly talk about bougainvilleas?
Thanks Charry - I'm not an experienced grower of bougainvilleas, so my opinions wouldn't be worth much! They're not hardy in my area.
Would PH balance change flower colors like it does on other flowering plants?
I can't rule out that soil chemistry (including pH) could play a role in flower color, but not like the dramatic changes you'd see in a hydrangea.
I once bought a blue verbena and when it finished flowering I trimmed it and added used coffee grounds. After awhile it flowered again and came in dark purple.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Jason, I live in North East Italy, near Vicenza...now is very warm but still tolerable and my floribunda Gruus An Aachen are nearly white...a little beige and light pink...but in July they are going to change colour and bloom in a pinkish tone...I believe it is the pH soil and the very hot weather
Thank you always🥰🥰
That was interesting. I have a yellow rose bush that also has white blooms.I was wondering why.
When I went out today to pick roses I noticed that ‘Hot Cocoa’ had thrown a vivid orange red sport. The colour reminds me of ‘Fred Loads’. It is very bright and quite a contrast.
Thanks Marilyn. I'd question whether that's a true sport or just a weather related shift in color. That rose varies quite a lot for me.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm I think it’s the weather. I saw another one that had all orange flowers. Oh well, I’ll have to find something else to name after my mom.
Thank you for this presentation . It has helped me understand the process. And I assume it applies to fruit as well. Pollinating with pollen from one variety to another won’t change the skin colour or flesh c9lour.
Thanks, now I know I have a Dr. Huey rose bush. Used to be yellow roses, got mowed down, grew back red.
Well on the bright side, at least Dr. Huey is a big step up from a plain old multiflora
Roses are usually grafted to a hardier rose stock. And sometimes the graft can grow and take over.
I complimented my friends deep yellow rose then she said it was green flowers when she bought it.
This is interesting. I have a rose that was grafted and I guess the the one that was grafted could not handle the cold and it died, but the root stock did not. It is a nice white that I would not plant. It is a nice rose so I kept it even though it is white.
Well that worked out nicely then!
🌹🌱🌿THANK YOU‼️🌿🌱🌹
I have a single rose bush that had beautiful yellow roses on it & then it had no roses on it for a couple of years & then when the roses came back on it they were cream colored almost white
Hmmm. I wonder if that's just a natural variation based on climate or conditions. I know a lot of my yellow roses will skew towards cream in warmer weather or under stress.
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That's very nice of you to say Kimberly!
I bought a GERTRUDE JEKYLL 2 years ago and the flowers are always cream instead of bright pink, I guess it may only bloom in bright pink in cool spring, but in Minnesota we never have spring, only winter and summer...
I have two roses that changed colour this year. My Summer Sun, a beautiful apricot colour turned deep red with a yellow centre and my Bill Reid, a yellow rose bush has a stalk with pink roses on it! So weird! I have almost 40 roses and these are the only two so far to change colour.
Who is the first Rose that you show on the video with yellow and apricot flowers? She is lovely! Also I wish to be so lucky as to someday find a sport. Edit. I caught the caption. It’s Maigold. Thanks!
Hey Jason are there minature roses that are fragrant? appreciate if you could answer and list down their names or create a video about this topic. Thank you.
So glad to find your video! I hope you can help me! I have a few different varieties of garden roses (mostly David Austin) for 5 years. This year, suddenly, these completely different looking new fuchsia color roses (with a lot less petals) popped out from all of my garden roses!!! Not just one, but all them! Even different breed roses. I’m so confused! I would really like my original roses back. Please help!! Thank you!
I don't know why it's all happening at once, but those sound like rootstock suckers as described in the video
Found this out with my Ebb Tide. When nights get colder they turn fushia.
I purchased a tea rose a few years back I believe named flame. It was the most intense changing from yellow to orange and then a hot red! I have not seen it since and this video caught my eye with the story. Do you know what the variety might be?
Not off the top of my head. Sunblaze maybe, it they were smaller flowers.
Except grafting, sport (mutation), another main cause is temperature. Especially on some varieties like ‘Juicy Terraza’. Mate, it changed from orange to pink and then to white in hot summer, and even with less petals. I sometimes enjoy it. 😂
Very informative video! Hi Jason, I have a question about rose colour change. Hope you can give me some hint! You’ve mentioned that the temperature and moisture can impact the rose colour in a certain range. I’ve bought some David Austin roses this year. The dark pink variety turns out to be a pale pink, and pale pink one’s blossom is nearly white. Is there anything to do to help make their colour more vivid and contain more petals? Thank you very much!
I think you may have to accept the natural variations in color intensity that come with weather change. You can certainly work to make sure there's an adequate supply of soil moisture, but temperature is going to be hard to control.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Thank you! This will certainly help. I live in Ontario. This spring is very hot and dry. I did not water them frequently neither applied any mulch. Looking forward to see changes in their next blooms! Thank you!
Thank you for answering my question about rose color change.
In my area there is a huge difference in heat between winter and summer. It could get over 50°c in summer while in winter it gets below 0°c.. Could that be another reason?
Yes, temperature can definitely play a role in the intensity of color - it probably wouldn't explain huge swings in color (red to yellow for example) but I've seen roses emerge as a strong apricot in spring, but pale buff yellow in late summer.
Yes, I had big beautiful yellow roses all of a sudden I have little red carpet roses all through my roses at least that's what it looks like. I figured it was the grafting. It's too late it already invaded my plant
Mine did Too. And from the SAME GRAFT~!Look just like this wild rose that came up a few years ago. Mine is not from the original root. It really changed color to red from the grafted on . I must believe that it was from cross pollination~!
I enjoyed the video as always, I have to say I’m a bit curious about the green tires. Are they just strictly to protect the roses from weed eaters? I live in an area that has very aggressive ( invasive) grasses and I want to spread my roses out a bit more to help prevent viruses or diseases especially the dreaded RRD. Do you use the tires in conjunction with anything else to keep the grasses from competing with your roses?
They work both as a weed barrier and to protect the the base of the roses from mowing. They're doing the trick so far. As a side advantage, the mulch (and shade within the tires) seems to be maintaining a good amount of soil moisture.
Thank you, I recently purchased some roses that grow into monsters (I’m hoping to start a nursery) anyway this just seems like a great way to keep them. Thank you for sharing!
I am looking for a reblooming/continuous blooming climbing rose. What do you suggest. I have seen a Colette rose and really like it. I’m in zone 7b/8a.
Nice. I like 'Rosarium Uetersen' a lot, 'Westerland', 'Leverkusen', 'John Davis', 'Sally Holmes'
Hi Jason I have a question. I thought everything was going great so far with my roses (almost blooming...I'm in ohio zone 6a), but upon closer look, I have these insects ALL OVER my Buds. I thought maybe aphids because some are SUPER TINY lime green things...but there's also these other ones that are similar looking to a Gnat...with clear wings. I tried Drenching the buds in Neem oil. Didn't do anything. So then I tried the Rose Rx...still didn't do much. HELLLLP lol. Last year I had rose slugs bad until I was able to kill them off. Thank you! Katie
Hi Kat. Aphids aren't too serious. You can wash them off with a sharp spray of water. The winged insects may also just be the winged adult aphids (could be a different pest, but since the aphids are there...)
I believe I have a Scarlet Knight Grandiflora, which is around one and a half years old. Initially it would grow dark red very big roses with no fragrance, and now it is growing medium large size roses that are more pinkish red with brilliant rose fragrance. I wonder how that happened?
I do see some variability in the pictures of Scarlet Knight on HMF - usually quite red, but in some pics a little pinkish. Fragrance can vary quite a lot as well with environmental conditions. I can't say anything for sure, but I wouldn't rule out the idea that SK is just showing some seasonal variability in bloom size, color and fragrance.
So... I bought a *red* hybrid tea rose from Tractor Supply. The bag said “potted rose” but I put it in the ground anyway. Well I got my first bloom yesterday and it’s a vibrant yellow. 😐 The bloom is from an off shoot from one of the canes it came with. It’s still beautiful, but are they all going to be yellow? Is this a mislabeled issue or something I can fix?
My bet is the variety was mislabeled and all of your subsequent blooms will be yellow. Sorry!
I love your videos.
How come that they are selling blue roses seeds, is that for real or what?
Thanks Zohar. No, they're not for real. Most likely what's they'll grow into is the Japanese beach rose (Rosa rugosa) - pink or white
I came here looking for an answer and found some interesting info,thank you for that. I have a question. I have eight rose bushes that were here when I moved to this property,all of them were a bright fuchsia pink for the past seven years, I walked past one this morning and stopped looked at it and it is a dark red and then I looked around and they are all dark red(not just a branch or a few of the flowers,all of them)! Would that be caused by the original root stock taking over even after this long of a time?
Unlikely to all revert at once and on all stems is my thinking. I'd probably go with the working theory that there's some variability in bloom color based on environmental conditions (cooler than average temps for instance) or stage in the bloom cycle (blooms often lighten as they develop). I can't say that for sure, but you'll have a better idea as you progress through the season
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Thank youu.
My "Rock and Roll" hybrid tea rose changed into a red climbing rose. Shocker. Now I get it. (It was stressed from transplanting). So the roots are expressing their genetics. But, will it come back?
Have a good look at the base of the rose. You might be able to tell which shoots are coming from above the graft union. If there's still life in those shoots, eliminating the suckers (from below the soil) might restore fresh growth to the scion variety.
Dose your farm sale David Austin climbing roses?
Yes, I have a few - I'm adding them to inventory as they become ready
Had a coral rose bush and last year she didn’t do so well… She was affected by a late frost and she didn’t bloom at all… This year she is full of buds but they are all red 😮and it had a shoot that is growing taller then the rest of the bush… Is there a way for it to go back to the coral color? Thanks
Watch and see if any of the blooms are from the original scion variety. If so, you can try to remove the rootstock suckers to favor the "true" rose or take a cutting
?? Can one take a RootStock Shoot and propagated into it's own set of roots and then graft a cutting from the above roses 🌹 hence doubling my rose bushes?
Yes - another nice part of the hobby is to experiment with different propagation techniques.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm now THATS EXCITING. I'm so blessed to stumble upon your channel enjoying how knowledgeable you are quite a bit
It was grafted and reversed to original graft
Definitely one of the possible causes.
So, how do I keep my Queen of Heart Rose keep giving red roses? Help!
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It is beautiful there. What province or city?
Thank you. We're about an hour away from Vancouver BC
I purchased the Sultry Sangria rose 2years ago it had a beautiful lavender color I had to pull it while work was being done in my backyard when workers were finished I replanted it in the same spot it came out of. I noticed when it started budding out it looked different. When it bloomed the flowers were red. Could it be because I had to pull it?
Well, stress could definitely effect the bloom color , but you'd have to trust your gut about whether this is just a temporary color shift or maybe the rootstock has sent some shoots.
It was pretty stressed. I really thought I had lost it. Thanks for your help
This reminds me of how a woman’s hair can change from straight to curly when stressed, during pregnancy or with age.
Earth genetics are so weird. 👀
I'm a hairstylist and medications can cause hair texture to change also. As does chemotherapy. I had some clients tell me they lost hair during chemotherapy and when their hair grew back the hair came back a different texture.
Prednisone for years makes my hair more curly/frizzy
and of course a woman´s hair can change in colour practically over night.
@@boomchicaboomboom Yes that happened to me. It was straight and came back wavy - a nice surprise as it's always distressing to lose it.
In spring we purchased 2 roses one it should be yellow and the other it should be red , the yellow it give roses light yellow close to light green and red one it was light red close to pink how can we change that ?
Thanks. That kind of variance (paler, less saturated color) sounds like it could be related to growing conditions. I often find my roses to be washed out when they form in warmer weather or when stressed. This could improve as he roses become more established as well.
My Rosa 'Souvenir de la malmaison' blooms pink in fall/winter and white in spring summer (and yes i do get roses in bloom during winter because, zone 10b 😁). I think temperature is what plays in this right? 😅
Totally - great example of how temperature (and moisture availability) can influence bloom color/form. With few exceptions, I've find my roses have more intense color in cooler weather.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm yes! I forgot to mention bloom form. In the winter it gets these complex flowers with three centres (idk the technical term 😅) massed inside a low cup of formal petals but in the summer it just half heartedly produces crinkly , lesser petalled flowers.
My rose was dark peach all over the bush for several years. I didn’t prune or fertilize it this year. This year it a med pink. I can’t figure out why it change. Do you know why.
My first thought is that the stretch between peach and pink isn't so drastic that it couldn't be explained by variation due to conditions (temperature can have a pronounced effect on bloom form and color). If it seems otherwise unchanged, that'd be my assumption and I'd just watch to see if there's some return to its more usual color through the season. If not, all things are still on the table (sporting/reversion, rootstock suckers)
Cross pollination is so widely misunderstood and there's so much misinformation about how it happens and what the actual rusults can be. Can cross pollination happen in roses, and where would you harvest seeds to benefit?
Hi Paul - well yes, cross pollination (or self-fertilization) happens as a part of the production of seeds. Obviously, it doesn't change the parent, but determines the DNA of the offspring.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm where do I find the seed of my roses, as I have wilted older blooms still hanging on.
Ha! So interesting :)
I bought yellow labeled roses at Tractor Supply. They bloomed red. So I bought white labeled roses. They bloomed pink. Mis labeled? Or chemical confusion?
Mislabeled somewhere along the line from grower to retailer.
I have wild roses, harvested from a long gone homestead in the bush. They have always been a pretty pale pink with an excessive number of thorns. The last 2 years, I've had 2 stocks come up a beautiful bright deep dark reddish pink. There are no other roses growing around. Just a yard filled with the pale pink, heavily flowered rose bushes. Why would 2 stalks after all these years change colour. The only change I've done is put red mulch around the bush.
That's interesting Lindy. I wonder if it's just a genetic sport. If you're game, you might ty taking some cuttings from that color variant, and see if it grows true in a new plant.
I planned one pink and one white years ago. This year, both blooms dark reds. They are beautiful but I missed my white rose.
Thanks for this video. ❤ 🌹
Mine did Too. And from the SAME GRAFT~!Look just like this wild rose that came up a few years ago. Mine is not from the original root. It really changed color to red from the grafted on . I must believe that it was from cross pollination~!
What is the name of a flat simple rose that looks like a berry rose. It does not have petals that stand up. It looks like a blackberry rose. The beeses can really get into it. I wonder which rose carted it along. I have it next to a purple one that blooms in the spring only. I even have it near Fairy tale. It is just beautiful.
I like 'Darlow's Enigma' a musk rose that blooms all year and the bees love it.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm I love this rose. Does Palantine sell it? It is exactly the rose I want to put at my front door in a circle:-)
My rose plant never blooming. Plant looks very healthy .More than 3 years I having that plant . Please give me some tips.
After this length of time, it should have tried flowering. I can't say too much without knowing the rose and the climate (and sadly, I don't have time to consult individually) but here's a couple of things that come to mind: some once-blooming roses bloom only on "old wood" meaning that if you prune low in the spring, they'll never bloom for you. Also, some roses have difficulties in certain climates (example: centifolia roses in a tropical climate). It could be other things, but those are the two that come to mind.
Thank you so much for your tips I didn't remember what kind of rose. I am living toronto Canada.
Sometimes a rose surprises. Roses are like apples in their genetic richness and versatility. My grandpa had an apple tree with multiple varieties of apples from different grafts he made. 🍎🍏🍎
mine went from pink to yellow to pinkpolkadots I get 1-2 buds at a time
What's the name of the rose at 1:55?? I couldn't catch the name properly.
Thank you
Thank Daniel - French is not my first language (and just barely my 2nd) so the fault is probably in my pronunciation: 'Baron Girod de l'Ain'. I'll fix it in the subtitles when I have a minute.
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No, thank you for your help! I love your content!
You're the only person I come to for my rose care needs! 🏆
What is the name for the rose behind you(first rose)? Thank you
It's 'Maigold'
Ok thank you 🥰
Another great video, thanks Jason. If I let the grafted rose bloom, does it affect the overall health of the bush? Is there a reason why i should be cutting them?
It's not such a big deal. I'm in the habit of "dealing with it right away" because I don't want to lose track or forget. The rootstock does tend to dominate (over time) but letting it bloom for a while isn't a big problem
I would have to cut my whole entire climber bush to the ground to change the flower back to white?
Only possible if you see a section of the climber that still is blooming in the original form/color of the variety. If it's all been taken over by the rootstock, there's nothing to do but live with it or remove it.
My Mystique Rose openes yellow,then changes to pink then red.
Thanks Susan
A rose I mean
I have many sports of Peace. How many Sports does Peace have?
At least four I can think of without any research, and probable a fair few more than that.
Is there a way to intentionally get my white drift rose to bloom with a different shade or color? Adding or reducing certain nutrient or agents?
You don't get too much influence on the bloom color - sometimes weather or nutrients will play a role, but not in any way you could purposely manipulate AFAIK