Grooving the bag, Mamaa (Dudley Moore, Peter Cook)
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- čas přidán 16. 05. 2007
- Jazz musician Bo Dudley (Dudley Moore) explains to the presenter (Peter Cook) what the Harlem song he is playing on the piano means but does he really?
This sketch is from Not Only But Also. Dudley Moore, apart from being a comedian and actor, also performed as a musician. - Komedie
Thank Fate that the BBC were not able to wipe this sketch, one of the funniest pieces of comedy ever written.
Unfortunately many of the ones lost could of been even better 😞
Dudley gets Peter to corpse first, a rare treat for Pete and Dud fans the world over. Love it.
To be fair, I think Peter is laughing at his own mistake. The German interpretation line was slightly muffed up.
It's certainly not racist. It denigrates the British sensibilities of the era and mocks the uptight format, approach and lack of understanding and that was often seen in the '60s. It's extemely well observed and cleverly written, not to mention DM's great playing.
These 2 were years ahead of their time which is why we can find interest and humour in it decades later.
I absolutely love this and all the other race-referencing D&C sketches. But it most definitely is racist… they’re having their cake and eating it. The more important question is whether certain types of racism are permissible (or at least tolerable) or whether even the slightest, most naively conceived instance must be penalised.
It’s no more racist than Joe Bonammassa’s Blues noodling..
Can blue men sing the whites ?
Have watched this quite a few times. Always get more laughs out of it. These two were an international treasure.
Peter and Dud bagged this one! Priceless bag!
This is sooooooo funny! It knocks the establishment, wonderfully observed, beautifully played ... it also shows how far we have come as a nation in our understanding of other cultures. Yes we have a long way to go but branding everything to do with race as racist makes it more and more difficult to move forward and have honest debate. "Irony is wasted on the unintelligent " - who said that? Me!!!! Hahaha
It was during my college days (late 1960s). After many hours of study on the day before an examination, I decided to relax a bit and happened to see this sketch on TV.
Next morning, half-way through the exam, I suddenly remembered it - and spent the rest of the time trying to suppress laughter. The invigilator must have thought I had gone round the bend! I did pass the exam though.
The brilliant satirical and zany comedy of Peter Cook & Dudley Moore!!
Absolutely spot on, couldn't have put it better. Thank you
If anyone is interested to know (if you didn't already) Dudley Moore was a very talented Jazz musician - and worth you exploring 'Moore' on YT
He was also a great concert pianist and performed Greig,s Piano Concerto which is available on Amazon.com
this is exactly how I feel when told to analyse some poems and stuff at school..from now on I will always start to sing that song and then turn out my best cook impression explaining it!...plus, I love how peter nearly corpses at some point
I absolutely loved it. I had no idea Peter Cook was so funny. Saw him beside Stephen Fry a couple of times on Whose Line is it Anyway and he often appeared a little sullen
Satire at its best. Absolutely loved it.
Absolutely superb, like so much of their stuff, works on so many levels.
How can 5 people dislike this - Unless they came across it by mistake?
Genius x
4:53 Pete nearly loses it.
I remember seeing this for the first time and being in pain I was laughing so much.
Sheer, comic genius.
+Julie Arnold They took really stupid lyrics and made a whole narrative about it.
Dud`s a great pianist.
Yeah daddy!
Thanks for sharing.
they were fantastic!!
Utterly superb!
I just lost my voice from laughing so hard. Thx for sharing the video.
“In parentheses”😂🤣
so funny on so many levels - where does one start?
Brilliant!!
It's brilliant!!!
Brilliant. Just brilliant.
they don't make comedy like this anymore!! outstanding!!
It's rentable on Netflix "Not Only ... But Also". I just saw it on DVD and laughed and laughed.
mississippii groover
LOVE it when they laugh. Classic.
Brilliant, I haven't seen that since the original broadcast.
Excellent!
As a tribute to the great Peter Cook, I have but one word to say. Mawwage!
Very valid point! Nice one. :)
Haha, lovely.
I'd love to see Pete and Dud take the living piss out of society now as they did then, god knows the material almost writes itself XD
This must be my most favourite sketch everrrrr!!! 4:34 turn for me in parenthesis the light on baby
very rare to see him lose it - it's usually Dud !
Nice. Thanks for pointing this out. ;)
Some of the terms used might make us wince now (correctly), but God it’s funny. Python is great, but Pete and Dud were often even more brilliant! It mocks the pundit and white singer, not the song.
Glad that some of these episodes survive . Not just the BBC but alot of other TV Stations had that practice of re-using video tapes back in the day . I was told by someone that the BBC even wiped the original Monty Python shows and it was only by chance that someone made copies that the show survived .
Maybe it was the accountants that made the decision to tape over shows , but of course if they had preserved the whole series they could have made alot of money from them.
I saw this at the time brilliant stuff. This was the time before video recording that technology didn't exist here. The only way to record programs the broadcasters had was to use cine film. The BBC didn't bother to record light entertainment shows, expecting viewers to watch them live. Any that were recorded were wiped or played over, that's why there is so little material available from great TV shows like these.
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No, video recording existed by the mid 60s but the tape was very expensive, so was often reused. Also, videotape was at the resolution of the TV camera, (in most countries either 480i or 576i or thereabouts, in the UK only 377i), while a film camera had much higher quality.
If anyone watching enjoyed this sketch, I recommend the Pete and Dud Art Gallery one as well - very good. : )
The whole Igloo!!! hahahaha
Exactly. Thanks.
I wonder why Dudley Moore didn't get to work with James Brown, or any of the R&B or rock'n'roll artists? He was that good!
"Oh Good Lord no and anyway, I wouldn't sing that sort of garbage" *cheesy grin*
xD
By the way davidon30. Great video. I enjoyed it immensely! This is what the World needs more of, not reality shows (which are very UN -real).
Lol it's so funny...they laugh at their own sillyness!!
This is some funny stuff, considering it's British and old. Simple yet effective. I did not intend to watch all of it, yet I was happy to.
Well well fucking done you!😂
"Darkie" hahaha
you're exactly right.
its a satire of cultural insensitivity and racism, that should be obvious
the sketch would be pointless were this not the case
Grazie Stefano Bollani!
real comedy.....my childhood.
This is fucking hilarious!
Dudley looks like Dudley here but Peter looks like his own grandson.
"you and most 'tolerant' Brits talk these days". You said that.
As for Cook been the type of guy who'd complain the Right are the cause of all problems were he still alive, you do know he was the son of a diplomat, went to the best university (in the days when this was in most cases still the reserve of the elite) and used to write a column for the famously politically "Right" Daily Mail? In fact he was more of an everyman, who could see over both sides of the fence and laugh at everyone.
Peter reminds me of a young jug-eared Charles here.
It's very funny, English white chaps not getting it ! A lot of 60's English musicians were trying to play rhythm and blues, so it is a very clever satirical comedy.
Im finished, this is my best
England's had a history of social class barriers preventing people from any social mobility and up until about twenty or so years ago, there weren't that many blacks in England, so where you get this information about it being "very mixed", eh-hum not exactly. I lived in England for five years in the '80's ,enjoyed my life there, and attended school, however as far as "mixed" , no, there were only two blacks in the entire school. My husband has lived there also and had a similar experience.
MISSISSIPPI GROOVER
4:56 he was laughing lol
you are a very welcome voice of reason and common sense - couldn't have put it better myself - the PCs don't get the sophistication of these kind of jokes.....
"igloo or wigwam"!!!
There is nothing wrong with Steve's post, as this is an accurate description of what the sketch was about, and by making a sweeping judgement about all "you Brits" you are merely highlighting the kind of blanket stereotyping you are guilty of yourself.
Sorry if you are unable to deal with the idea of British people mocking the negative behaviors of the time, when you would clearly rather believe that they (and indeed all British people) were all the same. Sorry to disappoint you.
This skitch is in first Derek & Clive album.
I remember the song this character sang in D&C. Glad they didn't sing it in this clip.
OMG Dud and Pete are groovin in this one. Real hip cats, looks like Ray Charles doing a Stevie wonder impression.
Also Foarp, I get it. Some Americans may not get some of this British humor, but there are some of us who get it. I'm American with British mom, American dad. These two are definitely England's best comedy duo. Could use some of this humor on TV now instead of the crap reality shows.
@MeMrJust Whats the fact that it's English got to do with it? Everyone knows we English have always made the best comedy on television.
great to see this. where did you get the clip from? not asking for any copyrght reason, im just curious
first time ive seen peter crack up more than dud
I was thinking the same thing myself. I wasn't born then, but I suppose it must have been. The BBC would not have let them use the word other wise.
Yeah I agree.....
This is funnier now than it was then.
I've lived in both nations I think I'm aware of their history. The topic was about race not gender. And the point was in the relatively brief amount of time in America's history (say 400 years) in comparison to England's over 1000 years history, America has actually covered more territory for democracy. This isn't a competition.
This is what happens on BBC radio 4 these days
Has anyone seen their hilarious skit on the First Christmas? I can't find it.
Absolutely brilliant! Peter Cook almost loses it which is understandable!
Most likely inspired by the James Brown song, perfect material for ridicule.
4:56 A rare moment indeed, Dud was in the habit of losing it, not Pete. Two masters at work. So sad we lost them so early.
Peter just about starts to loose it in or about 4:56 when Dud sings -"Your burning up now baby!" Too funny!
God bless the the late Bedazzleds' Peter Cook, and Dudley Moore!
@FOARP love that comment !!! i think it takes longer than 200 years to understand irony sarcasm and wit, one day maybe the yanks will learn , until that day we`ll all just keep laughing at them.
@angrysamoan666 Do you watch the clips to be offended? BTW, if you knew anything about the era that this sketch was actually set against, Dudley Moore could have been mocking any number of white, middle class Brits who treated this music like it was their own (Lonnie Donnegan and Georgie Fame spring to mind) So there's no `hook`. Were it not for middle-class Brits from this era the music would have had an even smaller audience. Usually the people who scream racism are the ones with the problem.
Peter Cooks speaking voice is as funny as Dudley's stuff here. ....."And so the bag is grooved by the mother ....its a long prO-cess".....funny how he says "process"! Haha English!
He's correct.
Great video davidon30! And for some equally good pieces of film watch some of the American directed films , one's by Stanley Kubrick, George Lucas, Steven Spielberg, John Huston and Martin Scorsese. "Space Odyssey 2001" , sheer genius.
5 people grooved their bags badly and couldn't work it out
This is not racist, it's funny, anyone who sees it as such is a very silly and sad person.
That's your opinion. MsCatamaran said she'd lived in both countries and has one British parent. Having lived in both countries is different from visiting there. There's a lot you can't tel about a nation just by visiting. And that wasn't what you were saying, you were challenging her by saying that England is the more progressive when it clearly isn't. I think she made a valid point in that America is the younger nation and has gone much further for social rights in a briefer span of time.
@angrysamoan666 Regarding what?! Have you started combing through the Goon Show & Hancock footage yet to allow your valuable observations to continue?
You may need to look into the history of that paper a little more. Plus he played characters of various types, in fact some of the most famous sketches (Pete and Dud pub chats) were based on ordinary blokes down the pub telling increasingly exaggerated stories about their exploits or trying to talk with authority about subjects they know little about. Were he alive today and showed such bias that would be different, but to assume he would based purely on his background? That is stereotyping.
MsCatamaran40 makes many valid points. It doesn't matter really whether your english or not, except you seem to be off track. Indian slavery was rampant during colonialism in 17 and 1800's as was African slavery by the English. I've read all of MsCatamaran40's posts. It seems she was just posting a well known fact. It was your initial post that came across as accusatory.
He almost loses it 4:58, I would say.
*accept (typo error) except (typing on my cell phone)
No one mentioned Australia because it wasn't the topic at hand. And I believe it was you that made it a contest. MsCatamaran was simply stating a fact. America is the younger nation and has come further in a shorter span of time. You chose to make it an issue or controversy.
@FOARP You forgot. 'I bet those Americans just don't get it. (Aren't we smarter than them lol?)'
Naturally....what else but....?
Are there any mistakes that aren't in the past?
i'm sorry if it came across that way, but it just read that way to me, slavery has been rampant since ancient times and sadly still goes on, is it a case of who abolished it first? who's country is more inclusive? it's hard to pat anyone on the back, nation-wise when racism still exists everywhere. i've been to the states 5 times and currently live in england, i think both countries have racism problems. but both governments have been making big strides for a lot of years to eradicate this.
what makes you think i'm english?
Also, I thought it might be useful if I correct two glaring errors above: 1) This isn't jazz but in fact soul , blues music (created by us "dumb" Americans. haha and 2) saying or rather ASSUMING that all Americans sit around viewing Happy Days is like saying that all British people sit around viewing Last of the Summer Wine and Benny Hill re-runs. lol Wow , some people will try to insult anyone just for attention. Next time please guys do some research. Have a nice life. Next! ;)
Actually my first post WAS addressing their post on this, what else?
And that's why I said I was tired, because people like to keep coming back with same old comments. I wasn't commenting on other posters here, so your point about how they're not all from the UK is relevant how? You bore me. If you don't like my 'hijacking' the comments with my reply to someone who was talking about the same subject YOU don't have to reply. Stop berating other people and then calling them negative, clueless man
Send up of British uptightness! Genius.
Yes I said that. Very different from 'you Brits' in connotation and actual meaning. It means Brits who try to show how moral they are and not the less condescending, preachy ones.
Even if he wrote for the Daily Mail (which was less r-wing in his day) he would still lambast them & Bush as being purveyors of war and other ills while ignoring the others in the political spectrum who did the same. Re: my original post, when people in general Brit & others stop being hypocritical I'll feel different
On the subject of racist language, is there another interpretation? Yes. There are other countries besides USA and GB. If you are in a country where everybody or 99% are dark-skinned and you are a tiny minority who are white, then if you call them dark and you are white, you look ridiculous. This is the colonial era. Peter Cook's father was in the British colonial service. The comedy of Peter Cook for example in Beyond the Fringe, is to satirise a ruling class that is on the way out in Britain. This was the case in the late 1950s and 60s as former British colonies became independent again.
Certainly in Britain or the USA where whites are the majority, the use of the word darkie is pejorative, but in a country where all but a tiny minority are dark, then using such a word just makes you look ridiculous, and out of touch.
That, I think is what the writer of the sketch had in mind.
+nigel642 Don't forget they're playing characters in this spoof, so they'd be writing in the style that would be normal for a light entertainment show at the time so it may be less about their views and more about making the script fit the general zeitgeist.
+Jamie Smith
Yes, you are right.
+nigel642 , I think that the joke is that two of the most un-funky commentators are picking apart a funky song. The fact that one of them is a white man pretending to be an African American man with a posh English accent and old fashioned values is a surreal touch . Remember these were two highly educated subversive comedians who later on became the pioneers of shock comedy and who loved to make the upper classes look like out of touch fools.
+Christian Carruthers Yes, you are right. There is a video somewhere in which Dudley Moore, wearing black make up, is singing Old Man River in the shower in the style of Paul Robeson. As the black make up washes off, his singing style becomes the clipped very English pronunciation of Noel Coward.
+Andrea Llewellyn Yes you are right.