Herbert Grönemeyer - Männer Live 2003 - Mensch Tour (Gelsenkirchen) [Subtitle] - REACTION
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In Germany, the song doesnt offend anyone. Actually it is being celebrated by any because it praises the diversity of men and shows that there isnt just one type of man.
And it is great fun to sing along with thousands of people at a live concert
The Song ist Form the 80s!
Yeah, its not that serious
@@rickyratte5643 exactly
It was also a direct response to some more anti-men sentiments by some of the hardcore feminists at the time (in the 80s). At least that's how my feminist parents exlpained it to me, and why they always tried to teach us gender issues as a matter of equality. There's actually some really cool stuff from that time highlighting the need of feminism for men in direct opposition to those voices. The "Männer sind auch Menschen" ist sort of the line that to me was always directly aimed towards them.
This song is soo genious. It plays with so many positive and negative facts and stereotypes... especially when you consider when it was recorded. Herbert is amazing.
The joke with the babies is: In German „blue“ isn’t only the color, but in colloquial language it is also „drunk“. As female babies are pink and boys are blue, he can sing: „Men are already blue (drunk) as babies“.
men was great in 1984 and still is today
"männer" was great in 1984 and still today
Dieser Liedtext steckt voller Ironie - einfach ein 80er-Jahre-Klassiker und darüber hinaus.☺️
This song is from 1984 and made him famous ;-)
Maybe you should react to a studio version first, where you can really hear the lyrics and the melody and then go to the live version to feel the tension. Both in one video, we don't mind if it gets longer 😉😎
The song "Halt mich" from Herbert Grönemeyer is awesome Lovesong. so beautiful.
The Version from the concert in Hannover ("Bei dir ist gut Anlehnen... Anna..."). Melancholic and when you know the background the saddest moment on a concert ever.
Did you know that Herbert Grönemeyer was the first NOT english singing Artist who was invited for MTV-Unplugged? This Song and its Album Bochum is now 40 Years old and i remember listening to it at work.....I believe Herbert and me grew old.^^
It's because they wouldn't recognize what language it actually was.
Westernhagen "Freiheit "live is also awesome
"Männer sind schon als Baby blau" is a wordplay and rather means they wearing blue baby wear instead of being drunk as babies. blau = double meaning in English: blue/drunk
So actiual...the song is from the 80s! Herbert first time released it on his album in the year 1984!
Oh, Grönemeyer. 😂 If you're a German millennial whatever direction you went later, chances are, Grönemeyer is part of your childhood memories.
As in- your parents dancing to this and likley Westernhagen and Klaus Lage😂
It would be better translated as 'what makes a man a man?' Rather than the temporal 'when'. It basicslly mocks alpha stereotypes, while acknowledging that there may be truth buried in there, and has fun with it. Still valid after 40 years...
Nice reaction like always.
Herbert Grönemeyer - Bochum live 2003 - Mensch Tour (Gelsenkirchen)[Subtitle] EPIC!!!
Have you ever watched "das Boot" ? You probably have, Herbert had a role.
„ALKOHOL“ ist auch geil!
Und "Bochum"
Do you know Herbert Grönemeyer starts his career in the famous german war movie "Das Boot" as an actor, where he plays a war reporter in a german U-boat. You should watch this.
This song was initiated by Anna his wife that died of cancer. She and Herbert had a long talk about what men was all about and many of the lines in the lyrics came from her rant. He spunned it around from a rant to a ironic song from his point of view. Actually its also a critical eye on why we are deviding mankind into geners at all. The first verse and the refrain should be interpreted as its ok for a man to be vulnerable and not so tough guy. The rest of the lyrics are a bunch of exaggerated and stupid stuff men think they need to do to become a true man. Herbert Grönemeyer himself feels like a man but would never ever like to be such a tough guy, he is a true softie.
Myself being an autistic woman think that gender norms are really stupid, most of it is based on the ideas of "stay in the group and don't ever think about why you do the things you do". I have never found a song so on the point of what I feel about genders as this song.
And people who want to transgender themselves and need to should get the needed treatment. And be happy. Perhaps we should give them a little bit more mental health checking so its not done "to easily" and church should stay out of it and don't try to change the people who need to transgender. This song is also for that group of people.
To be a human being should matter the most. And to me Herbert Grönemeyer is one of the finest proof of what it takes to be a caring, warm and open minded human being. He might be voke, but in the best way possible.
Above all, he is willing to learn. He always says that he is a child of his time. Of course, he was taught certain things that are no longer up to date or are simply wrong today. And he has done things that he didn't think about at all at the time he did them. Precisely because nobody thought about it. But he is one of the "old white men" who don't behave like old white men. Who don't rail against the LGBTQI+ community. Who are open-minded and say that we have no chance without migration.
He's only so "loud" because he's so famous in Germany. Of course, the obsessively male or proudly German pigeonhole thinkers don't like his attitude. But that shouldn't be his problem or the problem of those who share his attitude. An attitude characterized by tolerance cannot be wrong. But he also takes the tolerance paradox to heart and clearly opposes people who are intolerant.
@@tinisunblue he is the answer to the question: when is a man a man? Well when they behave like Herbert Grönemeyer they're a real man!
Maybe you want to check out "Westernhagen", too? o_O He is/was like the rival of Grönemeyer! :)
Give "Westernhagen - Mit 18 (Rockpop In Concert, 24.08.1984)" a view/listen!
"Mit 18" means "at 18" and he is singing about how he founded a rock'n'roll band at the age of 18 and how he "struggled" with it!
Great performance, great show, great audience, great sound, great lyrics, great location, ...!
Westernhagen got his first record deal in 1972 and was already know as an artist in 1984... his last record was released in 2022 btw! < so 50 years of german music history!
And you must be good, if you could survive 50 years in this business, don't you?! o_O
Great live Version 😅
Love it that you dig deeper into Herbert Grönemeyer's songs. Always amazing lyrics by him! And what a performer when he's live. I myself watched him two times on tour 🙌🙌
He and all of his band members LOVE live concerts.
(Alkohol) another one from him😊
👍second this
@@arnodobler1096 Moin!Danke für den Hinweis mit dem Feigensenf,kannte ich noch nicht!Heute wird Käse überbacken!!!SERVUS und frohe Ostern
@@wietholdtbuhl6168 Wünsche ich dir auch!
Ist total lecker.
A man doesn't have to be able to open the bottle either. That's what the song is about. What defines a man, really?
Also, I don't think that the lyrics would have to change now, as it plays with all the stereotypes.
Herbert is an institution in my country Germany. He is a singer songwriter, also was an actor in 'Das Boot' as a military journalist on the submarine during their mission. He is seen very smart as he is reading books. In an interview he once stated, reading gives him ideas about what to sing about and also how his verses will be formed and even some single words give an interesting twist to the story he just told.
And 'Männer' is more or less THEE 80´s hymn in Germany while feminism started to gain influence.
Oh ja, please much more Herbert 🙏🏼 but please watch her offical Videos 🙏🏼🤩🥰
HERISS SKUYYYYYY !!!! NEW VIDEO 😁🙏🙏
Grönemeyer - no ! Way
Btw he never wanted to offend trans people. He only says, that even when you aren't that strong, tough or rough you can still be 100 percent a man. Be human. That is everything it needs to be a man.
You GOT IT! 👍
i bet this was quite at the end of his tour. his voice is really raspy here.
I saw subtitles... In English.
This song made him famous in 1984
At the beginning he says: "A song about a guy like me... nobody here knows... relatively unknown... MEN!"
bochum?
The first single from the album "Bochum" was "Männer". In interviews, he repeatedly says that the radio promoters came back to EMI with slumped shoulders because the radio stations rejected "Männer" with the words: We don't understand him. What is he singing? Can he sing more clearly?And with "Flugzeuge im Bauch", the radio stations asked if there was ever a verb in his lyrics.... @@jdktoo
@@tinisunblue thats not the end of thr Story. It continued with " when they say "WE cant understand him" He Said OK WE record and Mix it Up again but in real they did nothing . Than after a time they played the excatctly Same record: "yes, NOW He ist better to understand"...
@@danielr.5785 yes, instead of mixing it anew they sat in the canteen eating meatballs
@@tinisunblue when i heard it Herbert Said nothing about meatballs but they emptied a bottle wine
"4630 Bochum" war leider auch sein letztes gutes Album. "Ö" ging auch noch. War eine schöne Zeit damals, Grönemeyer, Klaus Lage, Heinz Rudolf Kunze, Jule Neigel... und was bringt die deutsche Musiklandschaft heute zu Tage? Rammstein. Traurig, traurig...
What's next, Die Ärzte with Männer und Frauen?😅
Hi Mr.D, the best song and lyrics by Grönemeyer is "Bleibt alles anders", it´s really worth a reaction but i dont know if the original video comes with english subs.
No, unfortunately not
Play Alkohol 👍😉🇩🇪
Questioning the concept of society enforced stereotypical masculinity back in 1984.
You have to react to j.b.o.'s version "Frauen"
This misogynistic rubbish? Come on. Yes, one could sah that Männer is also not very friendly to men. But the little difference is: it's a Song about men sung by a man. But J.B. O.'s Frauen is simply malicious. That has nothing to do with humour.
Wahrlich viel besser als das hier.
Ach, der kleine Troll ist wieder da....
@@tinisunblue Ich werde jetzt auch bleiben. Schon alleine weil dir das so sehr auf den Sack geht.
He only lists the prejudices that exist about men.
Please react to the german marching band Meute
What a man! Left the country where he got rich and still earns most of his money to pay his (almost not existing) taxes somewhere else. A real man... not!
No,bro….you don’t get it
Herbert live - geht nicht!
Only Incels would be offended by this.
nothing special
The guy is a rabble-rouser... I wouldn't even go to the concert for a million
Zitat zur Klarstellung:
WENN RECHTE TROLLE IM BUNDESTAG HETZEN
Hat Herbert Grönemeyer irgendetwas Kontroverses gesagt? Hat er irgendetwas Neues gesagt, was wir nicht über ihn wussten? Nein. Schon vor 26 Jahren hat er den Song „Die Härte“ veröffentlicht, der sich gegen Nazis richtete. Eigentlich regelmäßig spricht er sich gegen Hass und Hetze aus. Auch auf seinen Konzerten. Auch bei seinem Konzert in Wien am Donnerstag war alles wie immer.
Was sagte er konkret? „Ich kannte das nur vom Hörensagen, in Zeiten zu leben, die so zerbrechlich, so brüchig und so dünnes Eis sind“, rief er. „Und ich glaube, es muss uns klar sein, auch wenn Politiker schwächeln - das ist, glaube ich, in Österreich nicht anders als in Deutschland - dann liegt es an uns.“ Und nach einer Unterbrechung durch Applaus:
„Dann liegt es an uns zu diktieren, wie ne Gesellschaft auszusehen hat. Und wer versucht, so eine Situation der Unsicherheit zu nutzen, wer rechtes Geschwafel für Ausgrenzung (sic!), Rassismus und Hetze, der ist fehl am Platze! Diese Gesellschaft ist offen und humanistisch.“ Er beendet: „Keinen Millimeter nach rechts! Keinen einzigen Millimeter nach rechts! Und das ist so. Und das bleibt so.“
I think you've got something mixed up. He simply tells the truth, even if it's uncomfortable from time to time. During the pandemic, he called for common sense. And he was right. He said that the better we stick to the measures, the sooner we can see each other at concerts like this again. And he was right. The fact that he only "wanted" to let in vaccinated or recovered spectators for his tour in 2022 (which unfortunately had to be canceled because he and his band members all had COVID themselves) was not his decision alone, by the way. He had the choice to do it this way or there should have been 1.5 m distance between the individual spectators. Can you imagine a concert under the latter conditions? No? Me neither.
He grew up in the Ruhr area, a region that grew up through immigration and could never have been so successful with only organic Germans. And when he says that we as a society have to show "those up there" and set an example of how we imagine living together in a diverse society - then he's right.
There are exactly two possibilities as to what you are: either a person who is not entirely averse to the right side of the political spectrum (to put it mildly) or simply a lateral thinker who has still not understood that vaccinations save lives. They may not prevent the disease, but they do reduce the consequences.
@@tinisunblue He insulted those who cared about bodily autonomy in various ways. Which was true totalitarian
@@norden-am-werk he cared for the health of the majority of his Fans, his Crew and his own health. Choices have consequences. And the choice not to get vaccinated had the consequence to be excluded from this events until further notice. You still had the chance to stay unvaccinated. He didn't force anyone to anything. But he didn't want to be forced to launch a superspreader event either. That was HIS choice. But lateral thinkers can't accept that. They place their personal freedom over the health of every other human being and can''t deal with the consequences of being excluded from events vaccinated people want to survive healthy.
you got him wrong. your perspective and thinking its a song from "nowaydays" (the song is very very old) ... many you presuming is absolutely wrong. But you showed a another perspective how people could interprete the song. Im a german fan since the 90s btw. You should hear his former "rival" - yeah... back then some had rivals.. like michael had prince - he had "marius müller westernhagen - or in short just: "westernhagen")... but.. you are wrong. he dont wanted to say what you think he wanted to say. And i am a bit confused - you said you have no lyrics (subtitles) - but..i saw some...cause you add them..? hm?
Oh no. Not him again.
The same could be said about your comment.
@@tinisunblue Welche Krankheit hast du, um tagelang die Kommentarbank danach abzugrasen, bei denen Herbert nicht gut wegkommt?
Welche Krankheit hast du, jedes Video von Herbert zu kommentieren, den du ja scheinbar hasst wie die Pest?@@Sloppylicious
Tagelang? Das Video ist erst seit gestern drin. Du hingegen scheinst jede Menge Langeweile zu haben, weil du auf Teufel komm raus alles von Herbert kommentierst, obwohl du ihn scheinbar hasst wie die Pest.@@Sloppylicious
@@tinisunblue Das andere nicht. Und du kommst immer wieder vorbei um auch bei anderen zu kommentieren. Ja. Rede dir das ruhig ein. Mir egal.