Legacy BIOS CAN boot GPT, but it needs a BIOS Boot Partition on the Disk in order to be able to start booting, which Linux Mint Tries to install to an EFI firmware partiton, which isn't supported on Legacy BIOS
Yes this should absolutely work (out-of-the-box even). I did install Fedora 39 recently on a BIOS machine and the installer did the right thing. Mint(/Ubuntu?) installer has a bug here, they probably didn't test that. Maybe they're out of BIOS machines. :thinking_face:
Every non- apple computer before 2012 or so was Legacy BIOS. Windows 8 is the one that made UEFI standard in 2012. Some motherboards had it earlier though ;)
I remember - and remember thinking - what are they talking about. I worked on PC's, Unix workstations and knew how 'normal' bootup worked - but this EFI. I said - what the heck is this?
I saved that pc from death and it hurts my head how much you struggled with that hdd... Those 2 screws allow the hdd tray to slide out and then you take the hdd out
Those hard drive caddy's were in all older OEMs back in the the early mid 2000s can't comment if they have them now but I guess it made assembly line process smoother am assuming
@@ScuffedPCs 🙂 sure buddy, i understand, for cheap video cards the number one cheap gaming card is: $12 AMD HD 8570 or the slow 7570, they work just fine in Windows 11, I can still see the bios screen with a new monitor and old motherboard combination. You will need a display port cable for the card or DVI cable. U could also checkout a used GT or GTX video card. Something around the 40 dollar mark. Like a bus powered 750 750ti, and the cards that use a single 6pin video plug are pretty safe to use with a SATA Adapter for example a gtx 950. U also have a bunch of radeon cards but some of them are hit or miss with a new monitor so if u go down that route make sure u have older monitors in ur arsenal otherwise you wont be able to see the bios screen.
🙂 Broh, technically after the blowout or instead of blowing it out you also have the option of putting everything into a bathtub and giving it a good hot soap wash down, then rinse, then pat down with a towel, then u mite want to bake it a little bit in the oven, then air dry on table with a fan overnight. It's really the only way to get off all the germs. The other way is giving it a good wash in a tub full of alcohol but that can get pricey and its kinda overkill unless its medical equipment for use at a hospital.
@@ScuffedPCs 😊im not, i do it all the time, i recently washed an LGA 1156 Asus Motherboard and an EVGA 750w Bronze power supply, they both came out squeeky clean, I recently plugged them both in and they both work just fine. 😏👍
I have 2 cases that have a removable cage for the HD/Floppy (s) but no screws, has a latch. It is not so bad if you know to take the cage out and then change HD/Floppy (s). In fact, I find that easier than working the the cases that have cages that do not come out.
i wonder if the chip-set can take the phenom ii x4 900 series, since the 900 chips have more L3 cache plus there cheap. you have a AMD Phenom II X4 820 95w just so you know
to switch from mbr to gpd ( and I think the reverse ) you have to write/overwrite the boot block/partitiont table. the partition table differs between the 2 and they will not mix. I assume Mint allows this ( I am about 100% that Kubuntu does ). I have computers in my house and are running that are either one. and they are running a kubuntu/Mint dual boot config. that is how you fix it. To add, this is an option if you do manual partitioning inside the installer - so you can fix this at install time.
🙂 interesting, i usually just run the auto installer and if it doesnt work then i try a different distro. I'll try the manual option next time just to learn something new. Thanks.
Or find a cheap nvidia video card and drop in it. Shut the integrated video off in the bios(if you can) and you should see an improvement in system stability and performance.
🙂 yes, radeon cards are weird, some of the cards with some motherboards u can't see the bios screen which is really anoying. I've had good success with HD 8570 7570 as I can see the bios screen, and they both work fine in windows 11 and old boards. I haven't done extensive linux tests but the little bit I tried the cards seem to work ok. But yes I agree that u should have on hand a stash of GT and GTX video cards because they are more compatible friendly with most motherboards and most operating systems.
Not true, you can remove the hard drive without taking the caddy off, just push a lock mechanism on the right of the caddy and slide the hdd upwards. i had a pc with the same case.
LOL I got one of those Phenom II computers free 10 years ago from my local cableco who was tossing it out, turned out the GPU had died so I slapped in a 7750 I had lying around and is still purring to this day as a backup box on my network.
@@ScuffedPCs 🙂yes hes rite, use ur finger and hold the fan in place while u blow it, its a good practice for any fan u come upon, that includes when u work on your cars, trucks, and home. Because a spinning fan at very high speed could come apart and the plastic pieces could hurt you or it could damage surrounding parts. Its like a mini grenage. So yes be careful with an air gun.
I guess being a long time old school pc tech I’m a little biased but that isn’t a difficult HDD removal and was pretty standard.
Just not what I'm used it is all lol
🙂 yup, i was thinking maybe you have to take off the front plastic panel cause sometimes theres screws there too
Legacy BIOS CAN boot GPT, but it needs a BIOS Boot Partition on the Disk in order to be able to start booting, which Linux Mint Tries to install to an EFI firmware partiton, which isn't supported on Legacy BIOS
I tried formatting it that way, perhaps I did it wrong but that was definitely something I tried in the installer.
Yes this should absolutely work (out-of-the-box even). I did install Fedora 39 recently on a BIOS machine and the installer did the right thing. Mint(/Ubuntu?) installer has a bug here, they probably didn't test that. Maybe they're out of BIOS machines. :thinking_face:
Every non- apple computer before 2012 or so was Legacy BIOS. Windows 8 is the one that made UEFI standard in 2012. Some motherboards had it earlier though ;)
I remember - and remember thinking - what are they talking about. I worked on PC's, Unix workstations and knew how 'normal' bootup worked - but this EFI. I said - what the heck is this?
@@user-cg5xv4zz2b 😊 yes its confusing even today because the bios screen can sometimes look exactly the same between the two versions.
I saved that pc from death and it hurts my head how much you struggled with that hdd... Those 2 screws allow the hdd tray to slide out and then you take the hdd out
😊 maybe he should have checked the Users Manual first or check on utube if anyone has worked in this case before
Those hard drive caddy's were in all older OEMs back in the the early mid 2000s can't comment if they have them now but I guess it made assembly line process smoother am assuming
Im ur 18th sub (Next video install Windows put a modern GPU in It and try to game on it??)
Gpus are expensive but I was planning on doing something similar.
🙂 I agree, i keep an SSD preloaded with Windows 11, and a handful of spare videos cards, my main goto card is a cute short single fan 1050ti
@@ScuffedPCs 🙂 sure buddy, i understand, for cheap video cards the number one cheap gaming card is: $12 AMD HD 8570 or the slow 7570, they work just fine in Windows 11, I can still see the bios screen with a new monitor and old motherboard combination. You will need a display port cable for the card or DVI cable. U could also checkout a used GT or GTX video card. Something around the 40 dollar mark. Like a bus powered 750 750ti, and the cards that use a single 6pin video plug are pretty safe to use with a SATA Adapter for example a gtx 950. U also have a bunch of radeon cards but some of them are hit or miss with a new monitor so if u go down that route make sure u have older monitors in ur arsenal otherwise you wont be able to see the bios screen.
Nice edits, keep it up, you will be big
🙂 Broh, technically after the blowout or instead of blowing it out you also have the option of putting everything into a bathtub and giving it a good hot soap wash down, then rinse, then pat down with a towel, then u mite want to bake it a little bit in the oven, then air dry on table with a fan overnight. It's really the only way to get off all the germs. The other way is giving it a good wash in a tub full of alcohol but that can get pricey and its kinda overkill unless its medical equipment for use at a hospital.
You gotta be trolling 😭
@@ScuffedPCs 😊im not, i do it all the time, i recently washed an LGA 1156 Asus Motherboard and an EVGA 750w Bronze power supply, they both came out squeeky clean, I recently plugged them both in and they both work just fine. 😏👍
I have 2 cases that have a removable cage for the HD/Floppy (s) but no screws, has a latch. It is not so bad if you know to take the cage out and then change HD/Floppy (s). In fact, I find that easier than working the the cases that have cages that do not come out.
🙂 yup, pretty much all the cute tiny DELL SFF cases uses a blue latch cage that u unlatch, then pivet, the pull out. Dont forget to unplug the wires 😊
i wonder if the chip-set can take the phenom ii x4 900 series, since the 900 chips have more L3 cache plus there cheap.
you have a AMD Phenom II X4 820 95w just so you know
🙂 yup, its always fun to upgrade the cpus
to switch from mbr to gpd ( and I think the reverse ) you have to write/overwrite the boot block/partitiont table. the partition table differs between the 2 and they will not mix. I assume Mint allows this ( I am about 100% that Kubuntu does ). I have computers in my house and are running that are either one. and they are running a kubuntu/Mint dual boot config. that is how you fix it. To add, this is an option if you do manual partitioning inside the installer - so you can fix this at install time.
🙂 interesting, i usually just run the auto installer and if it doesnt work then i try a different distro. I'll try the manual option next time just to learn something new. Thanks.
I've noticed that Linux Mint seems to have a problem with legacy AMD video drivers when installing on legacy systems, too.
Yes probably going to switch to windows on it. linux is too much
Or find a cheap nvidia video card and drop in it. Shut the integrated video off in the bios(if you can) and you should see an improvement in system stability and performance.
@@larrysrandomness3237 yeah thats the move i think
🙂 yes, radeon cards are weird, some of the cards with some motherboards u can't see the bios screen which is really anoying. I've had good success with HD 8570 7570 as I can see the bios screen, and they both work fine in windows 11 and old boards. I haven't done extensive linux tests but the little bit I tried the cards seem to work ok. But yes I agree that u should have on hand a stash of GT and GTX video cards because they are more compatible friendly with most motherboards and most operating systems.
Removing the front bezel might have gotten easy access to the other two hard dive screws.
we love making EVIL pc's, good video you need more subs you deserve it
Not true, you can remove the hard drive without taking the caddy off, just push a lock mechanism on the right of the caddy and slide the hdd upwards. i had a pc with the same case.
I can't believe you had a hard time installing Linux Mint because, with old hardware, Linux installs pretty quickly. Very insteresting.
LOL I got one of those Phenom II computers free 10 years ago from my local cableco who was tossing it out, turned out the GPU had died so I slapped in a 7750 I had lying around and is still purring to this day as a backup box on my network.
I had exact computer, burnt out on me 😢 well mine was intel dual core wish I was smart to fix lol
we neeed more ngl
Hell yeah I love old school free finds!
Fun video, subbed.
This jawn dope!
I am your 153 sub you should never spin fans by air comprasor as the every generated by the rotating fan can create some serious problem
I've heard this many times, I haven't and an issue *yet* but if its good practice then I'll prob start doing it.
@@ScuffedPCs 🙂yes hes rite, use ur finger and hold the fan in place while u blow it, its a good practice for any fan u come upon, that includes when u work on your cars, trucks, and home. Because a spinning fan at very high speed could come apart and the plastic pieces could hurt you or it could damage surrounding parts. Its like a mini grenage. So yes be careful with an air gun.
PC like this is great for someone that needs it or it is uselesss junk for anyone who can get a better pc
6:53 what game is that?
Townscaper, its 5$ on steam
Wow, you actually got my childhood setup for free!!!
Lmao
😊 yup, Nostalgia is Priceless
@@MrSamadolfo 😂😂😂😂
Interesting video
Nice video.
Amd fanum tax 😂
Si no es molestia pero no entiendo nada, ponme la respuesta en español
Yo también tengo una igual pero no me da video y ahora no
🙂 eh primo, si puedes consegirlo una tarjeta de video, algo sencillo de amd radeon o invidia
Linux is disgusting, install windows