Audi A3 brake fault fixed! Part 2 - Audi A3 ABS pump replacement and bleeding with VCDS
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- čas přidán 29. 04. 2021
- The ABS pump has been repaired and it's time to fit it back in the car.
This video starts with fitting the ABS pump back into the car. After that the battery is connected up on a temporary basis so the car can be started. Starting the car revealed that the brake warning light had gone off - good news! The engine light stayed on because the code causing that needed deleting with VCDS.
Having verified the repair it was time to fit everything back properly and bleed the brakes. I tried doing a standard bleed (i.e. without VCDS) out of interest as much as anything. However this proved a little optimistic so I went on to do the Audi A3 ABS pump bleeding procedure using VCDS.
All the warning lights went off after this repair and the brakes felt great.
A very satisfying repair of this Audi A3 brake fault for a fraction of the cost of a new ABS pump.
Part 1 of the video, showing the faults and warning lights: • Audi A3 brake fault! D...
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Greetings from Chile, I congratulate you, it is the best video I have seen for beginners and even professionals, very well explained and with a lot of detail. Thank you for your input.
Saludos desde Chile, te felicito, es el mejor video que he visto para principiantes e incluso profesionales, muy bien explicado y con mucho detalle. Gracias por tu aporte
Great job,You are best!
Great video
good job thanks
Not absolutely sure, but I think that the command ' press 10 times close ' means press the pedal 10 times, THEN close the bleed nipple...
Thanks very helpful
Glad it helped!
In case you wondered what those letter mean on the ABS Block, here you go -
• HR - Hinten Rechts (Rear Right -RR)
• HL - Hinten Links (Rear Left - RL)
• VR - Vorne Richts (Front Right - FR)
• VL - Vorne Links (Front Left - FL)
• (DK/HL) HZL - Hauptzylinder Links (Master cylinder left)
• (SK/HR) HZR - Hauptzylinder Rechts (Master cylinder right)
In order to prevent mixing up the brake lines when the ABS module is removed, Bosch recommends colored cable ties to identify the brake lines, rather than identifying them with paint or markers, since the brake fluid may obliterate the paint or marker ink.
• Connection RR - Green
• Connection RL = Red
• Connection FR = White
• Connection FL = Blue
A yellow cable tie on one of the two master brake lines could be used to avoid mixing them up too.
Thanks for sharing, yes I was concerned about the brake fluid washing my marks away!
Had reconditioned unit fitted and after 6 months I am back to square one, 01130 error code. I've changed 3 speed sensors and still no luck.
Hi Andrew, each time you ran the pump with the bleeders open did you have good flow out of the bleeders?
Thank you for taking the time to make this excellent video!
Peter
Andrew, what type of VCDS software Do you use for Audi brake bleed ? Thanks
What about the speedometer not working how did you fix that
Nice. If i just change brakefluid do i need vcds ?
How much of fluid was needed by end of it? I'm planning to replace ABS in few weeks time and wondering if ordering just 5L will be enough or not? Also on part 1 removal process, do I need to empty the brake fluid tank? Many thanks. Forgot to ask what psi did you use on bleeder?
Hi Andrew, where did you send the part to be refurbished ? thank you
When did the warning lights on? When stopping or accelerating on snow
Dear Andrew, you are using VCDS and bleeding pump too. Can I bleed my brakes without the bleeding pump, I mean is VCDS only enough for to do this?
Hi Andrew - I have a 2009 Audi A3 convertible 2.0 diesel tdi
Current Mileage 155000
Car runs perfect until ABS Fault code appears
Have had reoccurring error code 01130 three times - abs unit been sent off via garage 3 x times …error code 01130 has now returned fourth time - no speedometer etc … should this be reoccurring at this rate? At wits end
I've just bought a a3 convertible today the guy has now blocked me for some reason all the lights are gone even on the start up where they light up and then check and go and stay on if theres a fault there not there in the first place all assistance to the car has stopped ie parking sensors abs ect ect and left with on first start on it says drive to the nearest gaarage and then goes so when the car was already started when i bought it i didnt no till i got home and restart it its coming in with loads of faults to the abs module ect ect and another code j285 but he cant understand stand why all the lights have vanished and hoping theres a connection to another fault only looked at it for 20mins before closing angry over the guy that did the dirty on me 🤣 any help would be great
Hi, enjoyed watching the video, I have the same problem on my sisters audi A3, where she has been told that the ABS pump has a fault, could you please let me know where you had the pump repaired from.
Hi, thanks for your comment. I got the pump repaired here: www.ecutesting.com/
Why aren’t you using wing covers ?
hello, where did you send it for repair and how much did it cost?
Andrew i bought one from eBay I should receive it on Thursday with the same part number, I hope it works
Hope you manage to get it fixed!
@@AndrewFixes Andrew i resivd do I need to code it
Andrew, Great video thanks. My sister's 2009 A3 has the same issue and has spent alot money on wrong diagnosis. Is it cost effective to get a used ABS pump or have hers reconditioned pls?. Thanks
Hi Joe, thanks for the feedback. I decided it was better to get the original pump reconditioned for several reasons: firstly the used pump could develop the same fault as the original one, and this could happen quite soon after fitting it. Secondly, a used pump would need coding to the car. I suspect the warranty on the reconditioned pump would be better than on a used pump too. Hope you manage to get it sorted out.
@@AndrewFixes technically you can reprogram the used pump with VCDS, though it is quite an annoying procedure.
Is this recon of the abs pump available in Australia? Does anyone have any answers to this? Regards, great article.
You probably have sorted it by now I guess. I’m from the UK so not sure if there are repair options there, there are here. If not though, I believe you can buy a replacement ABS pump but it will need to recoded as the pump is paired with the ECU I think.
I had the same fault on my 2009 A3, just cleared the ABS fault codes and they stayed off after restarting the engine and a quick drive round the block testing engaging the ABS 3 times all ok. My wife said the brakes warning lamp came on after she braked hard avoiding an idiot in a beemer. I'm hoping it was just the pump valves sticking having not had the ABS engaged for a few years...missus does not race around.
Hope that fixed it for you, certainly quicker than what I had to do!
Bonjour,
J'habite en France, j'ai amené ma voiture chez un garage pour purger les freins parceque ma pédale de frein est molle.
Ils ont purgé au pied et la voiture freine moins bien.
Je pense que de l'air qui était déjà dans le circuit, est allé au bloc ABS.
Qu'en pensez vous ?
(Car : Seat Alhambra - 2L TDI 140 - year 2007- engine BRT)
Excellent video just about to do same job to mk6 golf. When you're using vcds to bleed abs after it says hold down pedal and pump runs to build pressure and then says open nipples does the pedal still have to be kept pressed or can I lift foot from pedal as there is already pressure in system .. thanks in advance
I did this work on my own so i definitely wasn't holding the pedal down whilst opening the bleed nipples.
It’s a 2 person job,maybe 3 actually. One to hold pedal, and I seem to remember the front calipers are bled at the same time.
f i dont have anything to pressure the circuit, how do i refill the brake fluid while doing the process?! Thanks!!!
If possible I'd get someone to help you by adding more brake fluid as required. You could do it yourself as long as you top up before advancing to the next step of the process in VCDS.
Hi Andrew. 1. VCDS bleeding required only for the front to bleed ABS pump?
2. No need to do same procedure for rear brakes?
3. How many stages VCDS asking you to do ABS pump bleeding?
Thanks
Hi, as I understand it the VCDS bleeding is mainly to get the air out of the pump, so yes just doing it on both front wheels covers both circuits of the braking system. I did a standard pressure bleed of the rear brakes (i.e. not using VCDS to activate the pump) after bleeding the pump. Removing the pump involves disconnecting the lines to all 4 wheels so I thought it made sense to bleed any air out of the rear lines too. I don't remember for certain but I think there were 10 cycles of bleeding with VCDS. Thanks
@@AndrewFixes thank you
27:02 looks like that one is still letting out bubble before You closed it
Thank you so much for this video, i have the same issue with my audi car A3 2009 1.6. I am going to brought a used ABS with the same reference and going to install it on mine but i need to know about the procedure to get the coding and enter it back when i install the brought ABS. Thanks again very helpful.
Bro what ur car does? Speedo stuck to zero ? Abs esp epc lights on? Did u solve ur problem?
@@tedankouil2356 hi Tenda. Yes i have lights on abs esp and brake. On vcd i have the same errors and i need to change the abs. I am waiting for the brought one (used one) and going to chance mine but i would like to know more about coding
@@TheBizertinos does it show you fault number 00597? Please bro when u find a solution text me I have same problem
@@tedankouil2356 i think that i haven't this fault code. I have the others ones 00113 ... i will let you know about my reparation bro. Keep in touch
did you manage to solve the problem? I'm from Brazil and I have the same problem on my a3 2.0 tfsi 2010. I'm thinking of sending it to a company called “ecu testing”.
Hi did i must bleed rear brakes after replacment aps.pump
I decided to bleed the rear wheels as well. There shouldn't be much air in the rear lines but as the repair involves disconnecting the lines to all 4 wheels, there is likely to be some. The VCDS bleeding process is mainly for getting air out of the ABS pump.
Andrew I got the abs pump z coding needed?
If you've had the original pump repaired, coding is not needed. If you're fitting a new pump, I think it does need to be coded to the car.
If you bleed though vcds, is the pressure bleader essential or can you do it just through vcds?
No pressure bleader necessary for VCDS as the pump takes it in & pushes it through.
@@petehuws Thanks - was checking for that. Brilliant video Peter. Super clear. I really appreciate the time you've put into setting up different cameras.
Just hooked my HX-V2 up to the RSQ3 and I’m lost here, options after selecting basic didn’t match...
Menu options had ‘brake bleeding’ then two stages offered...maybe it’s a adapter and software thing.. current V 21.3
Thanks thou.. I’m closer to sorting it after a manual bleed..
Should all 4 wheels be raised or just the front???
Check online if Your car has ABS rear too, I followed this guide and mine is FWD and front only ABS I'm guessing his is the same so only cycled the front
I need my pump doing where are you based??
Can I ask where you sent this to for repair and what the cost was? I have the same issue and would love to avoid the price tag of buying a new module ...many thanks
Hi Zoe, I sent it to ecutesting.com and I think it cost £240. Cheers
@@AndrewFixes Hi Andrew! Thanks so much for the reply! Coincidentally I sent mine there this morning after a couple of other people recommended it. So hopefully all sorted soon! Thanks for your video, it was soo helpful! 👌
Great videos can i ask you about a fault on my audi a3 8p 1.6 petrol 2010 the car starts and runs fine park it go back 30 mins later spins over fine will not start wait about 1 hour starts up runs fine some times does not do it for weeks then its back been to 2 garages cant find the prob they say no fault codes come up any idea thanks
@@thomastempleman7601 It's the high pressure fuel pump had the same problem with my Audi A3 2.0 Fsi 2007 until a guy who works on them helped me it would drive fine on cold weathers as soon as the temp hits 90% especially on shirt distances the car would stall just swings and won't start for about 1 - 2 hours then it would start up again and drive well. The guy changed the high pressure fuel pump and it's been running fine since then. When it does that try pouring cold water on the hpfp and it should starts immediately then you know it's the calprit.
@@thabangtumelo2159 found out what it is the car is not recognising the coded keys all 3 keys ok getting the ecu sorted to do away with coded keys going back to old school a key is just a key the alarm will still work
Good Video...But just wondering when it says Press Pedal...10 times....Bleed Screws.....Close wheather it means pump 10 times then close.Otherwise surely it would say Press Pedal...10 times....Bleed Screws.....Closed Don't see whats being achieved with them shut other than pressurizing the system while your pumping..And the ABS does that on next cycle when you have to press pedal and hold...Just a thought
I think you're correct - it's rather unclear but it doesn't make sense pumping the pedal while the bleed scres are closed.
It was really necessary to do abs bleeding for 10 times? I'm looking in the workshop manual for Mk5 and it says this:
On vehicles with EDL, EDL/ASR or EDL/ASR/ESP, the brake
system must be pre-bled when a chamber in the brake fluid reservoir
is completely empty (for example brake system leaking).
Pre-Bleeding
- Connect -VAS 5234- or -V.A.G 1869- . ( this is their pressure tool and the reservoir adapter)
Bleeding sequence:
1 - Bleed left front and right front brake caliper together simultaneously.
2 - Bleed left rear and right rear brake caliper together simultaneously.
- With bleeder bottle hoses attached, leave bleeder valves open
long enough that brake fluid exits without bubbles.
Then the hydraulic unit must be bled again with the “Basic setting” function using the -VAS 5051- .
Initiate basic setting (to bleed brake system):
-VAS 5051- , ( Vcds in our case)
- Then, brake system must be bled normally.
So, from what I understand, based on these informations, you do a basic bleeding but with 2 calipers at the same time, after that you bleed abs pump via vcds and final step is a normal bleeding, every caliper individually.
Am I right? From what I read in the manual, this sequence is applied to abs pump change too, not just a leaking break system or anything else
Hi, I don't know if the 10 times were completely necessary. This isn't a job I do often enough to have tried out lots of different options.
Thank you for adding the bleed information you found. I think you've understood it correctly, but I'm not sure it would be a whole lot quicker than what I did in the video.
What I can say is that after the multiple bleeding cycles, the brakes felt better than they ever had before.
@@AndrewFixesI tried to bleed the abs pump but the pump is not starting to bleed for 10 sec. It jumps directly to the " press pedal" part. What should i do? The car is a Golf mk5 2004
Hi bud. I have a problem on my Audi A6 Sline Quattro 2017 (67) plate. The problem is: errors in dashboard: ESP , auto-hold , start stop , parking brake and ABS.
I went and put the tester on it and said everything in the dashboard but specially ABS pump module valve malfunction and right front ABS sensor.
Ive changed the sensor with genuine part from TPS and when i got in the car and turn right again everything pop up. Do you think that i have ABS pump fault ? I lm waiting for a response. Regards
Apologies for the delayed reply. You may have a pump fault but it sounds like something else is going on with the right front wheel sensor, or perhaps the connections between the sensor and the ABS module. Also, is the wheel bearing OK?
Check the magnetic ring, that seems a common fault also .
I couldn't see any detail how to remove it but thanks anyway
How can som1 got hold of you because I also hav the some prblm
How much does this repair cost ?
I’ve been quoted £259.80 for the refurb and then there will be labour on top - not from the OP
where do i download the manuals
erwin.audi.com/erwin/showHome.do
@@AndrewFixes thanks alot
Is there a way I can contact you directly via email or social media
Lot of fucking about using the Ross tech what happened to the old school method
Quite hard to get all the air out of the ABS pump with the old school method. Unless by old school you mean driving at speed on wet grass or gravel and slamming the brakes on to activate the ABS, then bleeding again afterwards...