Fiido D4S Review The BEST eBike of 2020 for the PRICE!
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- čas přidán 8. 06. 2024
- Fiido D4S Review. New 2020 model eBike with up to 80km range and max 25km/h speed limit (36km/h unlocked*) It's foldable, 18.5 kilos, uses 20" x 1.75" wheels, has 6 gears and a 250W motor. $619 with coupon BGtechtablets1 here: bit.ly/2BGNKRJ You can win one enter the D4S giveaway: www.fiido.com/d4s
00:00 - Intro & specs
01:31 - How to fold it up
02:23 - Unboxing
02:54 - Features
05:55 - Ride test & rough roads
06:57 - Climbing with power assist
07:32 - Emergency braking test at full speed
08:14 - Regenerative braking? And range
09:13 - Thoughts with Pros & Cons
*How to unlock the 25km/h limit. Hold down the e-throttle to 100%, while holding the front plus rear brakes, and then turn it on. Keep them pressed holding it for 5-6 seconds then release. The screen should flash E 08 code will reboot and now you can hit 30-36km/h with the 250W motor. But your battery life will drop significantly and check local laws you can do over 25km...
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$619 with coupon BGtechtablets1 here: bit.ly/2BGNKRJ You can win one enter the D4S giveaway: www.fiido.com.cn/d4s
00:00 - Intro & specs
01:31 - How to fold it up
02:23 - Unboxing
02:54 - Features
05:55 - Ride test & rough roads
06:57 - Climbing with power assist
07:32 - Emergency braking test at full speed
08:14 - Regenerative braking? And range
09:13 - Thoughts with Pros & Cons
*How to unlock the 25km/h limit. Hold down the e-throttle to 100%, while holding the front plus rear brakes, and then turn it on. Keep them pressed holding it for 5-6 seconds then release. The screen should flash E 08 code will reboot and now you can hit 30-36km/h with the 250W motor. But your battery life will drop significantly and check local laws you can do over 25km...
You know what? After waging pros and cons I've ordered one through your referral link - enjoy whatever percentile of sales you're getting in that partner program. Who knows maybe I will actually like it ;)
Btw. I've found out how to change battery, they use generic battery pack available all over Chinese websites - worst case scenario you can ever cobble together your own battery pack and reuse the controller. It's a bit disappointing however there isn't easily removable battery as there IS plenty of space inside to add casing. Battery pack is literally held in place by thick pieces of foam to not rattle around.
@@Micromation if you ever tackle this please make a short video. I wish they would just design to use the L2 battery on the majority of them and offer the smaller as a downgrade if it’s not needed.
Can you do me a massive favour and measure the length of seatpost jutting out of the frame for your height please? Sooner rather than later would be greatly appreciated as I've bought a seatpost which may be too small ...
Code is invalid :/ And now it's around 700$
@@vedranart you can buy directly from fiido website quite cheaply
I enjoyed that point of view camera work! Its been awhile since I rode a bike an this really was fun to watch. Thanks :)
Some thing worth testing is the ability to wheel it around after its folded, many folders can be pulled around by their seat or handle bars because otherwise they are very awkward to move..
Thank you so much for the review. Was a bit hesitant about buying this because it's cheap and claimed to do 80km, whereas lots of ebikes in that price range only do "up to 20km". Great to know that it has at least 60km in it which is way more than enough for my 16km daily commute with some steep hills 👍👍
Did you end up getting it? How does it ride up the hills? How steep are the hills?
Hi, nice review as always. I'm buying one this week but worrying about changing rear tyre. Does the D4s have a connector near the back wheel like most ebikes or have they cheaped out and not put one. Meaning you have to pull the cable through the rear axel nut all the way from the controller?
Really enjoyed this review and the presentation.
Thank you for not being afraid to venture into the budget e-bike category out of your bread and butter of phones, tablets and laptops etc.
- This would be ideal if they had hydraulic brakes. I have had mechanical disc brakes in both the shimano and tektro guise and they are fantastic at stopping don't get me wrong as its still brake pad on steel disc but it's not fun day in day out.
- Re-gen is not the end of the world imo, the removable battery too isn't as it can be folded nicely and brought into said home/apartment.
- I wonder if the r&d needs too much effort with the routing of hydraulic brake cable routing relative to the route of the mechanical brake cable through the frame to not kink horribly when in the folded state.
Not a knock on your review as it is fantastic, only that this style of bike and price category in my opinion should be another say £100/$100 with a good hydraulic system behind it before I whack my credit card details in.
Thanks for the effort you put in to your channel, I always thumbs up and comment when I watch as I know that helps pump the youtube algorithms.
Thank you for the feedback and comments. I'm looking to swap to the hybrid hydraulic pistons via cable upgrade that some have recommended here. Front shock would be great since my local roads are terrible. I've been riding to and front my house to town with this bike.and it been great. I think only with those two additions I would be happy to pay a little more for it.
Great video and very informative, thank you.
One question though, what sort of speeds can be achieved on the flat by pedal power alone. If you have the number of teeth on the crank set and cassette then I can work out the theoretical speeds for cadence.
Many thanks in advance.
Just ordered mine. I can't wait for it to come!
Enjoy!
Those are some really beautiful roads to ride to
They are! Nice views on the coast
Great review, any thoughts on doing some more of the range in the future? The m1 looks rather fun.
Ye but more expensive
I brought the Fiido D2 wheels at 16 inches with rear suspension which makes riding over bumpy ground with out a lot of vibrations, giving less punctures, strain on wheel forks and components. The weight is 19.5 kg = nearly 43 lbs which is too heavy unlike other folding bikes like Brompton which some people say its a heavy bike at around 28 lbs! I really peddle and just use electric power on mid throttle to have the bike do all the work and enjoy the ride taking me around 4 miles (6.4 kilometres) to and 4 miles (6.4 kilometres) back before the battery runs out.
My improvement on the Fildo (D2) wound be to make it a lot lighter, fold down a lot smaller so you can take it on a bus, coach, car, train, office and air plane by putting it in your hand luggage compartment like a Brompton bike and travel a lot further just on electric power and faster just on foot power since its 52T chain crank moves you along at snail pace
Achieved by using the Brompton vertical folding mechanism which patency has now expired to fold it up very small, the battery placed in a removable (long down) bag on the bikes front handle bars where you could store up to 4 extra batteries to travel much further and more foot power bike speed by using bigger chain cranks from 52T to 58T . The reason I brought this bike and my 1st electronic folding bike was its competitive budget price around £500 to £600, variations in models eg 3 gears or 6 gears , quality construction, looks and CZcams recommended reviews but because of the improvements needed you can see why many people buy the over price Brompton's due to folding down size, weight and speed.
I thought you removed this a while ago😁😁😁got excited good thing its up! Thanks.
Sorry had to re-uploaded due to CZcams not pushing it to my subs
(No?) pun intended at 2:26 “There is some *light assembly* that we do have to do: We have a *reflector* right here!"
No pun intended, it just happened 😂
I bought the d2s for 482 euros. Has rear suspension smaller wheels and battery 2kg heavier. The reason why these bikes don't have regen is because they are geared motors. Direct motors have regen. This is also why there is a weight limit on these for the gears inside the motor. A lot of users change the front chain ring to 58t and change to cheap 30 euro mechanical-hydraulic hybrid caliper for better breaking power and less need to adjust the alignment of the break piston.
I might change the hybrid hydraulic caliper do you have a link?
How to use the shimano gear when in flat road , hills or going down? Newbie here
The back brakes are not well installed, or the wheel, it has a pulsing feeling which is very annoying. I tried to tighten correctly the back wheel spokes but the brakes keep to pulse. Has anyone fixed this?
I found Ur the best reviews person of this bike
Thanks for watching!
great video and super detail
Thank you! Cheers!
Hopefully Fiido D5s will come with suspension! Greta video, thanks for upload!
I think I'll wait for the D5S, hoping it has that suspension and the rear light.
At least front suspension feels like a must - back doesn't really need one IMHO. So are fenders (what? it's always wet over here in the UK). I wish there was aftermarket option for the front. I would also replace mechanical disc brake with V-brakes. Decent V-brake will outperform this piece of rubbish.
@@Micromation look for the samebike xw-20ly, it has almost same design and the front fork has a suspension. So I'm sure it can be bought by itself.. And they do sell the fenders in banggood for like 25 euros. They're giving them as a gift for the first 50 d4s buyers or somtn like that.
@@klanko64 rear light you can add a xiaomi mi 365 back fender led light. Only costs about 3 euros... The d1, d2, d2s, d11 don't come with back lights.. I'm pretty sure the next one won't either
angelf falcon how would you attach it to the battery?
bought one here in the Phils and thank you for the nice review. 👌👍❤️🎉🙏🏼🚴♂️🚴♂️🚴♂️
Another great review. Bike is cheaper than I expected.
it is. At least the price is competitive compared to other ebikes
Hend,
I have the Fiido D1 with 36v10ah (the same battery) and I got 30-35km of range in full throttle with small tires and 65kgs. Perhaps with these 20inch tires, you can get 35-40kms of range.
Great review, I love these ones about green mobility.
I'm seeing about 60kms using 25% and 50% boost. 100% I think it's about 40kms this with some climbs. I'm 78 kilos
So to go auto mode, you need to squeeze the handlebar? Wouldn't that cramp your hand?
Would you still recommend this bike or the D11?
Hi Sir, Can I use flat mount caliper on this bike? I'm planning to buy hybrid calipers for stopping power and ease adjustments of brakes. Thank you :)
Have you tried how was the range of full throttle mode?
the real gear set is using cassette or freewheel ? can it be swap with diff speed ?is derailleur upgradable ?
The handle folds inbetween the tires which is unusual. The handles should fold outside the tires to make the fold tight. This design makes rolling the bike with the seat in hand probably awkward as the tires are not going to be parallel.
Your photo of the tight fold at 3.05 is a partial picture that doesn't show where the handle is. It this fold possible with the handle inbetween?
What are the exact specs of the tyres please? 20x1....?
great price for this. good product
another cool thing on this channel, amazing 👍👍👍
Glad you enjoy it!
@@Techtablets You don't get nearly enough popularity you deserve. Thank you for that Cube i7 Stylus recommendation back in the day, serves me very well up to this day :)
I'm curious if you are able to roll it on the wheels when folded, instead of carrying it.
Yes a little but it's not so easy I prefer to carry it and stand it on the stand below the crank
does the bike usually have loose handlebar ? not very loose only when you push forward
Hey! What’s the size of the seat tube? Can’t seem to find it anywhere.
Nice area. Lovely weather. Good review
Thanks for watching I have plenty of other ebike reviews in my channel and some new ones coming.
Very nice ..I am watching all your video
Hi , is it possible to take out battery from the frame ?
are there any ways to get motor assistance (w/o using the throttle)quicker? That 4 seconds of delay kinda sucks.
Not with a trick like the max speed or hack I think.
Hello can u help me what to choose z20 or d4s ? I found them at the same price.
Fiido X will come in June according to Fiido., but has it the same
engine as D11? I was hoping for an engine with more torque.
Fiido x seems to have a new locking device for the battery, it is one
of my must criteria for buying the bike, but preferably I want better
torque as well, Unfortunately maybe the price will be too high on X,
Fiido. has already raised the prices of all bikes.
Is it better than the M1? I am looking for a bike in my Motorhome
What’s the feel odd the grips and a close up on that seat rotors be good. These are items that often need to be replaced on cheaper bikes like this so seeing the quality would be nice.
The grips are average, not lock grips so if I put a lot of force on them and twist they will turn. Lock grips would be a good upgrade if there is a half one for the right side. The seat is good, no issues and good padding.
How is the akku reloaded, only in bike? Greetings from Finland!!
if anyone knows this reply but does this bike have suspension and if it doesn’t is it still smooth to ride ?
Does lowest assist lvl help 25% or its feels more like helps till 10/15 km/h?
second, 10 km/h. mode 2 50 % 15km and mode 3 75 % 20 km/h
Someone knows how to check the odometer on this new fiido display (version 2021) ?
Is it good for someone a little under 5feet?
Don't like the fact you can't remove the battery. Anyway round this?
Did you ride the D2S and compare the riding comfort to the 16inch with rear suspension?
No but I've reviewed another with the smaller wheels and prefer 20"
@@Techtablets Did it have suspensions?
My one won't show battery percentage and it goes with new battery but battery comes up full drops bk down to one bar
👍Thanks! Where is this? Mallorca?
Denia
How is this if compared to Xiaomi Himo Z16?
thanks for video .... was considering buying a second hand version of this, but seems electric assist probably needs that torque sensor that they are putting on their newer bikes . D11/21 just so much better design. No suspension,. I guess ADO 20 much much better.
Whats the difference between d2s and d4s?
If battery goes bad, which is the cost to order one?
Hey dude.. can you do review with Insta360Pro R Modular Action Cam?
What’s the front chain wheel? 54t? Do you feel you run out of gear at full speed?
52t
52 teeth. Yes at full speed I feel it could have 1 gear more compared to my Trek mountain bike
Does anyone know what spokes to buy to fix the D4S? Thank you
Hi there, could you please be so kind and measure the diameter and the lenght of the seatpost?
To film those types of "flickery" screens, you either need to wait for dark/dusk to do it or put a neutral density filter in front of the camera lens. That prolongs the shutter speed and captures the whole screen in the picture.
Thanks I was trying different shutter speeds but I wanted to capture it in the sunlight so you can see if it's readable or not out on a ride
Hello! Somewhere I red that if you want to use only pedal you have to turn the bike computer off. Does this affect the functionality of light and horn?
Mine doesn't work without the bike "on"
How long is the battery life?
Does he have to buy a replacement battery or is the whole bike being bought again?
Good for around 500 cycles these batteries. It is removeable the battery, but not user removeable. A few screws to remove and then unplug and remove it. Fiido should have replacements
Would like to see you review the Himo T1, if you can get one.
Sure I'll buy 3 of them haha. It's $5000!!
@@Techtablets or z20?
Does this bike have mudguards like the D2 to protect clothes from splashes during a work commute? Thanks
Yes but sold separately
@@Techtablets Awesome!! Thanks for the info looks like I'll be placing an order asap. 👍
Is there more distance between the handlebar and the saddle than there is with the D11? It is so hard to see but the M1 looks so much smaller with less room but the dimensions aren't really different in the specs. I am not tall but have alot of width lol. Deciding between the D4S, D11 of maybe Engwe C20 (pro or not)
The measurements are on their website. I would go with the these over the Engwe C20 which has a much cheaper build (see my review of it) it’s not as good as the D11 or even this bike.
@@Techtablets Thanks. Yes i checked the site but could only find total length of the bikes not the distance between saddle and handlebar. Thought maybe u remembered (not exact numbers but the feel) as u have used both. I think i would choose one of the fiido ones too. Saw they also sell alot of replacement parts. Just found out that for the D4S u can also swap out the controller giving it immediate Peddle Assist which would be great
How does the small wheels cope with potholes?
Okay but that's also why I would prefer a front shock
Have mine 4 months haven't cycled once haha just pull the throttle and I'm away to work it's great I love it I heard there's a way to unlock the speed but I can't with mine
Nice! If you can't unlock it via the screen it might be a cable from the controller that needs to be unplugged. Have a search on Google for how to unlock the speed.
Are they still available because if they are out stock no need to wait again im curious?
I think they get stock today
can you suggest a rack?
so the european can go fully on electric mode?
can you please write the modes and the speed they start?
Hi, yes full electric is possible with the accelerator at any speed you can take off. For the assist modes it's 10 km it seems to kick in always for me.
@@Techtablets I think twist and go is illegal in the UK, we have ancient laws over here (electric scooters, electric uniwheels, etc. are illegal to ride outside of private property with it's owner permission :( ) and it doesn't look like it's gonna change anytime soon. Assisted pedaling is legal though. Nevermind, UK is not in Europe anymore apparently xD
@@Micromation UK is currently under EU law for Ebikes (I don't think the government will change it but you never know). And in EU law throttle is legal capped at 6kph. Full throttle assist is not.
hi amount is the lowest seat height?
Nice fiido D4S
where can i buy this in EU?
I’ve bought this bike recently. I only tried it indoors. My question is when I start pedaling on level 1, after a while el. engine launches and accelerates the bike. However when I stop pedaling the engine keeps accelerating (without using a throttle). In order to quit engine support I have to press the break. Is that normal that after stopping paddling the engine keeps on going?
Yoo great review I got the bike a few days it's a cool product. BTW I can read in the user manual that frequent braking is bad for the battery: perhaps someone here knows why? and what is the best way to use the brakes without damaging the battery.
I think I figured out why, for those wondering: when you start pedaling there is some lag before the motor kicks-in to give you that boost, if you brake frequently the controller may engage the motor at the exact moment you press that brake causing the motor to run against the force of the brake and consuming too much energy.
@@accelized3599 thanks for the info. I think you should just avoid unnecessarily playing around with the brakes. Use it as much as you need to, however, if the situation calls for it. For example, when biking at a crowded street. Btw, hows your D4s doing? It’s on my wish list, after shopping around. 🙂
@@MasterKoala777 it's doing great after more than 1 year of usage and I'm still using it! Like any other bike in the market, it requires some maintenance, especially the wheels that needs to be true once in a while (very common on Chinese bikes). For the rest it's really basic maintenance
@@accelized3599 thank you! I was trying to choose between this and the Himo Z20, and really leaning towards the D4s. Cheers and may you enjoy many more years with yours.
This might be a stupid question but is there a lock included?
No but the D11 did include a lock
That delay before pedal assistance looks awful, can that be adjusted?
It can't but the new models like D11 got a torque sensors which is much better.
who makes the motor
Good value for the money.
Yes it is.
gtreat review and view.where is here?
It can be used as a common manual bike?
Yes it can, but it is a little harder going.
80km range? Beyond 25% power assist? 25% at nearly 20kg is net loss IMHO. Like, if you can do 80km on 25% assist with 20kg bike, you shouldn't have any issue doing 80km on 10kg bike with no assist. How far does it go on 75% assist? (I write this comment on unboxing part of the video so this question may or may not be redundant).
Better that it doesn't have braking with the recharging ability.. I had a scooter that had that and the second day I used it, it burned. Had to return that ish
That's true it can cause issues
Thanks to you from Facebook group, I know of this bike :)
@@hasan_z to who? 😁
Is this waterproof
Is it still the best budget option?
It still is yes one of the best options for the price.
Is it worthy the price difference compared with the Fidoo D2?
Yes I think so for the price difference this one is worth it.
@@Techtablets I don't think you've mentioned it in the review (or maybe it slipped my attention) - can you get fenders for this thing? Either official or aftermarket that would fit? I understand you don't need them in Spain but it rains elsewhere xD
@@Micromation yes.. Look in banggood..
Slt, I bought this bike and the electric assistance never worked. Fido does not refund....
Can you charge it when its not fully discharged
Yes of course you can.
is battery removable? if yes can you charge it alone or not in the bike?
No it's in the frame so you can't just pull it out
@@Techtablets Well batteries degrade with each full charge cycle, how about replacing battery after, let's say, a year of daily use? It doesn't make sense to get electric bike if one isn't using it often and using it often = chewing through batteries. There is access to them via philips screwdriver I believe, how about getting spares though?
This is a real deal breaker for me 😕 if it could be removed I would probably purchase
You can with a screwdriver remove them and maybe buy a new pack. But as the other comments posted they will last a lot of cycles
TechTablets.com It’s more about charging off the bike, as I don’t have an electricity hook up outside. But I get that the bike is built to a price, so this sort of feature would cost more. Anyway, great review Chris, hope to see some more electric bike reviews on the channel.
How many Nits ?
10000 nits
Is it possible to unlock the speed up to 30kmh ? thx for your answer 😄
Yes look at the description
What's the range full auto?
I'mgetting about 20-25km full but with some big climbs
FFS, give it the L2 battery and hub it’s a winner, or give the L2 these wheels/tires...
JOSE LUIS GARCIA
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Todas las bicis eléctricas al llevar motor trasero funcionan mal. Siempre hay que comprobar que la rueda delantera y trasera en vacío rueda suave y dura bastante el rodamiento. Si ves que se para a las dos vuelatas hay que desmontar la rueda y aflojar el eje siempre que no tenga holgura y también comprobar que las pastillas no rozan en vacío y sin apretar la maneta. Si rozan es que no está bien puesto el freno hidraúlico y hay que desaflojar los dos tornillos que tiene en la parte superior frenar fuerte y entonces apretarlos sin soltar la maneta asi nos aseguramos que están perfectamente acoplados.
También se el truco de hacerla legal y que no lleve acelerador físico en el puño para que no nos denuncien. El truco es quitarlo del manillar y poner otro (el más pequeño que exista) dentro de la controladora o fuera pero en algún hueco (que lo hay) y rellenerlo de silicona caliente para que no se mueva ni le entre agua. El truco está en que llevas acelerador y el circuito envía señal a la controladora pero en posición cero sin accionarlo. Asi ya no tenemos acelerador físico y no puedes acelerar prácticamente al no llevarlo. Tu bici es legal al 100 por 100. Pues bien los SUPER INGENIEROS de Fiido no saben cómo anularlo y quitarlo del manillar dicen que si lo desenchufas a error y la bici no arranca. Pues bien en Aliexpress hay aceleradores miniatura que son pequeñisimos y son válidos para mi "invento" jajaja. Con lo fácil que hubiera sido programar la controladora para que la función acelerador se anule. Aviso que las multas son enormes y estás haciendo una acción contra la Seguridad Vial en España si te cogen y ven que llevas acelerador. Ya hay muchas bicis eléctricas que venden en España que no lo llevan al darse cuenta del fallo. Pero nosotros con nuestra magnífica Fiido nos arriesgamos a la sanción gorda. Lo de deslimitar la bici lo veo una tontería ya que te puedes dar un golpe o atopellar a alguien y te buscas la ruina. Además con mi invento no se puede deslimitar.
How tall are you in proper old fashioned feet and inches?
I’m 190 and almost 90 kg. I’ve not been able to find an electric assisted foldable yet that is comfortable for me.
This one is maybe the closest you'll get I find the others the frame is too small, wheels too small. But this one I can put the seat right up and the handle bars
@@Techtablets
Thanks for the reply.
I will have to see if I can check it out somewhere. Do wish it had shocks though.
@@Techtablets After seeing your review of D4s I looked up other products they have - I wish they had M1 but without fat tires as it sound like perfect bike (also has easily removable battery). I guess you can just change front wheel but rear would require a lot of work to change :/
I'm 189 and 95kg and I don't feel "too big" for the D2, so I would assume that this D4S should be at least as good for our size (-:
Yes it should be fine.the seat goes up quite high and the handle bars
Several hours to charge for a possible eighteen kilometres , you would walk that and back and still this battery would be charging it's a cheap and cheerful bike but the range is very poor old Tec...
That's with hills and big climbs only motor power and no peddling. So really like a scooter I've reviewed then. But if you peddle a little you can get double and triple the range and much easier than if it was peddling only.
Is this a good bike to work as a courier?
No I think you would need something with a much better range?
@@Techtablets In my case, it would be a part time job. In your testing experience, can you recommend a bike with good range but not as expensive?
Thanks!!!
First upload wasn't correct?
It didn't notify anyone almost. Got only 30 views in 20 minutes
It may be waterproof but riding around in the rain on a bike without fenders will get you plastered in dirt and grime front and back.
Does this have import costs? I live in Belgium.