Jeff Beck Group with Rod Stewart - Studio Session For The Beck-Ola album, London 4-14-1969!
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- Very Cool clip of the early Jeff Beck Group with Rod Stewart in the studio in London working on Plynth from the Beck-Ola release. I don't have a whole lot of info on it but it sounds like it might have originated on German TV.
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I ran a small 8-track studio for 12 years and am a guitarist.
I have sympathy for Jeff here. This is "The Jeff Beck Group" so he is the star and is expected to deliver.
Putting down a lead solo as an overdub is not the same as doing it with the rest of the band live. There is a communication between the musicians and a buzz in the air that just doesn't happen with a playback and overdub.
Onstage or even in rehearsal you are "warmed up", the band has gelled together and everyone else is concentrating on getting their bit right.
- in the studio, you're sat drinking cofee and talking about random stuff whilst you wait for someone else to finish their bit. Then suddenly you get called in to do your bit and need to go from Zero to Fabulous in a few seconds and while the engineer, producer and the rest of the band stare at you through the glass wondering why you're such a bumbling incompetent! 😀
You can also see that they are talking to each other and probably sometimes laughing and you cannot hear what they are saying. For all you know, they are saying how your current performance confirms their doubts about you and are arranging where and when they will audition your replacement or leave to form their own band.
It's Pressure!
The multi-track studio can be a bad place for perfectionists as well......
In a live show, your solo spot comes around and you give it your best shot and that's in.
Whatever mistake you made or however uninspired it was it's GONE, it's over.
But in the studio you can just keep trying again and that in itself can make it that no take is ever good enough, there is always some slight mistake or little phrase or section that you feel could have been better.
It's VERY easy to go chasing rainbows and then crumble if you can't catch one.
I am astonished by the capabilities of modern recording software - these days almost anything can be fixed completely or at the very least dramatically improved.
Plus there are unlimited tracks to use so you can do twenty takes because you have the editing ability to pick the little good sections from each and stick them all together to make a "perfect" track. (Called "Comping" because it's a composite track)
Of course, even on 8-track tape you could do "drop-ins" aka "punch-ins" where you play the track back and then just punch into Record-mode for a bar or two to replace a little section but it sounds easier to do than it is. You are literally erasing and recording over whatever was on that section beforehand so both the performer and the recording engineer need to get it right "live" - there is no "Undo" button so if you mess it up you destroy whatever was there originally and have to re-record the whole solo.
Every member of that band a superstar in his own right.
RIP Jeff Beck. Truly one of a kind.
truly one of the best albums ever!!
I have the album 1969. Played one time still have plastic on it.
RIP Jeff Beck
Rod's best period, with Jeff.
remarkable history. RS the best R&D singer hands down.
I'm sitting here in my lonely room--and i can remember buying this album when it was released in 1969. Totally unbelievable that i am watching segments of this iconic album in the making, before my very eyes!!! It's as if i was part of the crew there, like a home 8mm-16mm movie. Seen Jeff almost every time he played Detroit. One of my all time favorite Guitarists & Character.
The people here knocking Mickey Most don't have a clue. Truth & Beck-Ola were landmark albums of the day, and still hold up to this very period and beyond. Not a whole helluva lot of Producers/Arrangers of the day can even begin to make that statement---let alone put out such a creative effort. Also, look at Mickey Most's career, it is staggering!!!
You can see here that Jeff was a difficult person to work with. He seems awfully unhappy here for some reason
@@bozoadams4113 JeFF BeCk was aways a Moody type of individual. Also, Session work is tedious & thought provoking when You realize this will be basically a forever & ever historic recording.
@@dennymcfastlane8530 That's certainly true. But I think that he's more of a jolly good fellow today. Life's been good to him
This is brilliant…. I think Jeff is at his best live and thriving off other musicians and inspirations… and when he knows he’s not being recorded. The energy and awesome -ness of his live performances are incredible.
That’s not to take away from his albums as they are each fabulous and very different from each other.
It’s only my guess but he seems so much a perfectionist and a critique of his own work that putting something to album which he is going to be judged on so much more severely doesn’t suit him the same. He seems unhappy and he says it’s hard to get inspiration looking at 4 blank walls.
I think in the end he found a way through that with band colleagues who understood his strengths.
I have the album 1969. Played only one time still have plastic on it. Back in the early 70s when I started buying albums I would record them on cassette. I have some great albums. Some are 50 years old I'm afraid to play them now.
I'd love to hear Beck and Hopkins isolated!!
beck fan since 1971
It was the end of the '60s . . . .a difficult time , because that vibe has not returned since , and musicians and artists would know this , in their souls . . . Rod has done a good job , carrying on thru . . :)
What exactly was so difficult about the end of the '60's? Besides the music, the '60's were known for wars.
I think the "difficulty" was the post-love and peace vibe of 1968/9, people were getting angrier and revolution was in the air. Unfortunately, the revolution didn't happen for another 10 years and when it did the wrong side won.
@Bob Green which lead us to the sorry state we are in now.
@Bill Kelperis yes, we are still well under the influence and agenda of that particularly horrible time, the 80s.
Jeff Beck , Six Strings Wizard Great Guitar Master , Sounds Still Alive ln Our Soul Forever. Rest In Peace 🙏
R.I.P. to the legend Jeff Beck
RIP, J.B.
Brazil 🇧🇷
Mickie Most did such a great job on Beck's first two solo albums. "Beck-Ola" , a central part of my early youth.
Truth and Beck O La really stand out as 2 of the greatest albums of 🎸
Funny you should say that, seeing as how he totally bungled the Yardbirds with "Little Games" and I kind of dis him even though he did very well by Herman's Hermits and Donovan (no snark intended). But you're right, the first two Beck albums are monsters.
Engineer Ken Scott did most of the production on "Truth". I guess MM was around a bit more on "Beck-Ola".
I just purchased original vinyl Beckola and Truth - - those were the days
Love the intro ivorys then thumping guitar 😄 absolute classic stuff... Jeff Beck such a one off
Great sound and vocals
The best of the best. Greatest stuff off the 60s. Under rated
Rice Pudding = Masterpiece.
Time to dust off my copy of Beck Ola, RIP Jeff Beck a class act
This is freaking awesome.
seconded!!! grew up hearing Rod sing "Do You Think I'm Sexy "...missed out
This is awesome. Not much footage from this era unfortunately
Hi Bob,
imagine the positive energy in those studios back then, all those superstars just jammin
thanks for sharing
Bob
Portland Oregon
Man, that drum break...
great raw rock!
*I love 💕 **#RodStewart** and **#JeffBeck*
This is a time trove. Thank you very much.
rest in Peace Jeff
This was a super group I missed at the time.
Fantastic video. How historic it is! Thanks🌷👍🏻
I don't think they realised what utter magic they were laying down, not least Mr Most.
What a classic gem. Stellar jam seesion with some smokin grooves!
Jeff Beck today admits that he himself was very difficult to work with, and temperamental.
you think the proof's in the pudding tho? All I get from this is that Beck was concerned about putting in his best performance and it may take four hours not two - and Most is a ego driven wanker who thinks he's more important than the actual artist. Most - "You have to be very diplomatic" then goes on a judgemental rant at Beck about lost studio time - Jesus - George Martin would have brought out better stuff from Jeff
Takes me back to when this 1st came out.
Classic RIP. Jeff Beck..................*********
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Thank you!
Great historic video
Wonderful bit of history🙂👍🙂
GREATEST SINGER EVER
Amazing footage. Great album!
This is great sitting in on a session with these guys
I LOVE this
I've only seen the short clip of this-Amazing to watch this in full-Thank-you. 🎸
A great clip. Mickie Most makes a lot of sense. It would have been a tough gig shepherding rock bands of that era through a recording session. Like herding cats.
No - Most is a complete ego wanker and the last half of this clip is wasted on his pontificating. The album probably heaps better with George Martin producing - heaps better
the only time I liked Rod Stewart was with Jeff. Then he turned into. "Romantic Rod"
Super Cool. Rocky
Mickie Most was a baby sitter. Makes me love Jeff Beck even more, Ha ha.
I went to see this band at the "Starlight ballroom" in Greenford and still remember how good they were. I read today that Ronnie Wood played bass in the band but I didn't know of him back them.
He should have stayed on bass. He was a real good bassist imho.
This is from Swedish TV ('Popside' to be exact).
Sadly, this is the only footage that has the Jeff Beck Group ( not counting the other one)other than the live footage at Fillmore East, without sound. I hope some finally comes to light so us older fans will have some memories of the greatest almost bands.
The interviewer speaks Swedish. BTW this album is still brilliant. Just crank up the volume.
Next to Robert Plant, Rod Stewart was one of the best frontmen of the late 60s and early 70s.
In the beginning, he stood behind amps because of stage fright.
Just behind Steve Marriott
Totally agree, I don't know Rod decided to trade his unique style of rock for trendy hits. I'm not saying he should have stayed in that whole blues rock/ Faces style musical direction, but quite a bit of his later music feels a bit like he traded integrity for money.
The sad thing is that he still has a fantastic voice, Stewart never lost that gift. Robert Plant never gave up his musical integrity and broke the mould of his rock singer persona in a way that didn't feel contrived. I wish Rod would have done the same.
Right, throw in Daltry and Jagger of course.
@@PatriotSteve Not sure what you mean 'Just behind Steve Marriott' - I'm thinking you mean 'That Steve was a great frontman ' not literally standing behind him haha.
Amazing!!
Jeff and producer Mickie Most had a difficult time with the second LP finding inspiring material. This is a fascinating inside look at the process.
That’s metal right there
Rip Jeff Beck
“When you are done being a record producer you can become a politician”. LOLZ!!!!!!!
Esses tempos não voltam mais... Muito som
“Being diplomatic and getting the job done.”
Exactly.
It wasn’t necessarily easy being a record producer for a rock group back then.
Christ didn't Rod have a great voice back then, and that incredible run of solo albums in the early 70's before he started asking if we thought he was sexy...led Zep certainly filled the gap that the JB Group left...pity they never did more stuff.
Fantastic
At about 40 seconds we get a quick glimpse of the machine their recording on, appears to be a 1 inch 8 track. Soon after this they doubled the tape width and we got 16 track 2 inch.
After a while they reduced the width of each track and manged to squeeze 24 tracks onto the 2 inches and that was the pinnacle of 2 inch tape.
Later it became possible to link two of the 24 track machines together so that they stayed in sync with each other and you therefore had 46 track (because one track on each machine had to be used for SMPTE code to enable the sync.)
Mickie Most feels like a boss!
Wow!
We don’t get the lead guitar in this, watch the original, so good
The bit from 2:40 where Mickie Most frills and chastises Jeff is so funny - uncomfortable - but funny. Don't get me wrong, I am Jeff's biggest fan and he is a sharp, intelligent and eloquent fella, but that clip reminds me of Christopher Guest recalling an exchange he witnessed in an airport that was inspiration for Spinal Tap: czcams.com/video/VqNFPB3bNpw/video.html
Also, watch the MTV interview with Jeff and Rod from about 1985 to promote Rod's single Infatuation on which Jeff played. During the interview Jeff says something like "4 days ... that's the way to make an album, in and out, don't sit around" - ha! A different attitude to 1969!! Rod then interjects: "you should know, you've made 5 albums in 12 years" or something to that effect.
It's also amusing to hear Most comment that they hadn't even got an album cover yet. Thank God for me that that was the case!! The JBG's lack of organisational skills obviously meant that they just swiped a Margritte painting for the album cover, which is of a big green apple. The extent of my Jeff Beck knowledge in 2007 was Hi Ho Silver Lining (I'm ashamed to say) and I ignorantly and lazily couldn't understand why he was ranked alongside Hendrix, Clapton and Page. I was sifting through CDs in a music shop in Nottingham trying to find things to blow my student loan on when I spotted a big green apple, feint wording that looked like Beatles and the EMI logo. Being a Beatle maniac from early childhood, I thought I had fallen through a portal to another dimension and stumbled upon a lost fab four album! Alas, no, but decided to buy it - Beck-Ola - along with a load of other albums that I've probably never listened to more than once. This decision changed my musical journey. I had already been big into heavy rock, blues and funk, but Jeff's career tied it all in together for me and sent me in other directions. His playing, tone, musical decisions and personality expressed through the guitar are unrivalled.
Rod Stewart he kicked ass back in the day and when he made the song you ya think I'm sexy a lot of people hated it because it had a disco feel to it carman appece wrote.that song mabie some of you mates🇬🇧🇬🇧don't know that but he did up the irons!!;maiden manic🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🤘🤘🤘🎼🎼🎸🎸🎶🎶🎵🎵🎵🎵
well, so now we know what the infamous Mickie Most looks and sounds like - the bloke who pushed such trivia as "Hi Ho, Silver Lining" on Beck and "Little Games" on the Page era Yardbirds, because he didn't understand the oncoming wave of FM radio and album oriented tracks.
Not saying he's a terrible person, but it is ironic that the discussion about "when do you think it would be time to get out of producing?" was not all that far down the road for Most at that juncture.
The language sounds like either Swedish or Danish, from Swedish or Danish TV.
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Was that Micky “ make the worst of it”Most ? Pre New Faces?
Many rock stars.are very hard to get along with Richie Blackmore was one but what a fantastic guitar player he is I wonder if he and Ronnie James Dio got a long and Richie he was a moody at that up the irons maiden manic we all get moody sometimes rock star or not rip Jeff Beck🎵🤘🤘🎼🎼🎸🎸🎶🎶🎶🇬🇧
Brilliant comments from the producer.
If it wasn’t for that smokey voice, Mick Jagger would be my favorite singer.
Shame that Micky Moist didn't recognise Rod's great talent.
Who is mickey most I never heard of him up the irons!!maiden manic😺💍🎸🎼🎼
Micky Most. You're welcome.
The foreign language spoken at 2:30 is Swedish I think, not German
You didn't see Mickie Most's name on lots of albums back in the 60's but the work he put out was usually exceptional, kind of raw, controlled Kaos.
Summer 1968. Jeff Beck and Rod Stewart were at the log cabin in Laurel Canyon and had a food fight. czcams.com/users/shortsq8Qch2El17E
Ye Olde De Lane Lea studios, London.
Anyone see ronnie wood in this ?
Like Hendrix , if Beck has decent studio quality , a decent producer to steer his arraignments etc Beck could easily have been the greatest .
but didn't the world get from this and their musical "cousins" (Yardbirds etc) : Rod Stewart, Ron Wood, Eric Clapton, Jimmy Page, Keith Moon, and John Paul Jones? I'd rather have lost the one in history and gained those others. Know what I mean?
What makes you think that Beck wanted to be a superstar in the traditional sense of the word?
He doesn't sing
I’d like to point out that Beck is still alive
@@davidalston3626 you just jinxed him
Yep, fuckin' awesome! Great song. Is it Kenny Jones or Mickey Waller on drums?
Tony Newman on the Beck Ola album Micky Waller on the Truth albim
It must have been from Swedish TV as they speak Swedish not German!
What was the first song
It is called 'Plynth'.
@@revbobj3220the faces version is much better
Great but not the final mix-take left for the album.
Interesting. Live vocal but JB hasn’t competed solo that was on Beck Ola.
De lane de lea?
De Lane Lea Studios
Rod Stewart was brilliant. Unfortunately he went from champ to chump....
And from poor to rich with a gorgeous wife.
Swedish commentator
Was'nt it recorded in late '68?
The album was recorded over 6 days - April 3rd, 6th , 8th, 10th , 11th and 19th -1969...Hope this helps ?
not much of a fan of Rod Stewart solo. but he sounded kikemass in The Jeff Beck Group! With his awesome voice the music is what does it! JBG!
Mickie Most with his usual face on like a slapped arse. Very clever guy but here he has a look of someone who doesn't quite know what he is seeing. I wonder if he realised that he was witnessing the birth of probably the best rock vocal talent we've ever seen
I doubt his ego at the time let him see much but his paycheck - complete wanker in this clip - 'I have to be very diplomatic" Yea right - also "Well I don't want to record complete rubbish"
Swedish...
2:30 what language was that? Just curious
Swedish?
@@MilesBellas was it?
@@22ergie
it sounds like Swedish and it isn't German
Is it done by a swede?
I can hear a swede make comments i swedish.
So not german😄