Rogan has some of sort of weird obsession with this kind of stuff. Might be due to the fact that he wasn't tough enough to make in kickboxing or taekwondo or whatever he was doing at the time.
Why do MMA fans feel so goddamn insecure after an MMA fighter loses in a Boxing match. They go straight to "If it was a real fight.....", but it wasn't. A non boxer lost to a boxer what's the issue here?
I respect both sports. I lean more towards MMA, but I think the reason why is the a lot of boxing fans are always like "Boxers can beat anyone at any time. Some kid boxing at the YMCA would easily knock out the best MMA fights with on punch in any rule set. The reason why he doesn't is because he'd make more money in a real sport." Now, a lot of fans of boxing do respect MMA and recognize the strengths of weaknesses of both sports and recognize that since there's a greater variety of weapons in MMA that MMA striking does not translate well into boxing since many of boxing's best tools could leave a fighter open to takedowns or kicks. It's mostly just shittalking between hypeboys.
@@RaulRamirez-jv4rn I think it's 50/50. There's plenty of shit talking MMA fans. MMA does have more of reputation for being in-your-face aggressive than boxing does. But there's a lot of boxing snobs out there too.
Any man above the age of 10 is familiar with ten year old boys because he used to be one. The inference you made - where your mind immediately went - makes it look like you are the creep here.
@@H-G89 must be dumb the guy jsut said we never seen that right hand before but he alrerady used it in other fights so we have seen it, so the statment is wrong and your confused lol,.
Fury's resume is pretty bad, Wilder with lacking fundamentals who only beat Ortiz and an old Klitschko and Fury failed a drug test after the fight. And he has a trilogy with Chisora of all people.
Fury and AJ fought in arguably the weakest era of HW boxing since WW2 skill wise. We have no idea how good they are because only AJ has fought 1 elite HW who was in shape. Fury is about to.
@Garrett1240 maybe 5 years ago. But Fury had treated his body like a septic tank and that catches up with everyone. He hasn't looked good since Wilder 2. He's slowing down and catching shots he never used too. How much he has left remains to be seen. Even his own brother said Tyson someday will age overnight because of his lifestyle. Has that already happened? We'll know after Usyk.
He's the best HW of the generation you useless dimwit 😂 only HW in history to win every single title and the only HW to ever beat multiple champs with 10+ defenses
This is what they always said to live off the boxing name. MMA is cool, those guys are badasses, but the real reason boxers don't cross over is because there's no real money for them in MMA. That's why the MMA guys cross over way more often.
"Live off the boxing name" lmao... MMA has big events every other weekend. Boxing has like two fights a year anyone that isn't a die hard boxing fan cares about and they usually involve an MMA fighter lol
"Boxing is dead" yet every MMA fighter that has crossed over has earned more money in one fight than their entire career 😂 Follow the money, it doesn't lie in showing what's more popular. Not mma propaganda.
That second knockdown was absolutely from the Moon. I'm impressed that Ngannou got up from that because if he was a boxer, his corner would have screamed for him to stay down.
@@SuperMarioTomma95 they're not the ones who stepped into his world, he stepped into their world - of course he's going to get his ass slept, at least for his first few fights. Don't challenge the best in the world and not expect to get slept
James Toney went to MMA and fought a 45 year old Randy Couture and got choked out in under 60 seconds. And there were rules in that Mercer Silva fight, it was suppose to be no grappling and kicking which is why Mercer looked at him the way he did when that first kick landed.
@@MOGMirrosAs if James Toney wasn’t obese and way past his prime lol. The fact the UFC guy threw a kick shows it wasn’t a boxing match and your guy got KO’d stiff by a fat washed up Ray Mercer.
@Cobmetal1 The exact same thing can be said about Tim. Dude was way past his prime and was forced to fight a stand up fight in a cage match. Mercer literally told them he would do it as long as no ground game or elbows or kicks were allowed. At least JT said all or nothing and wanted to find out. Not sure if you know JT but he was always heavy in the second half of his career. That's why he went to HW so he didn't have to kill himself and stop eating to make 168. Didn't stop him from going 12 in boxing though. No boxer gets out of the cage if it's a real MMA fight.
@@MOGMirros here's an example of how a boxer can dominate MMA... Remember Chuck Liddell the ice man ? He punched MMA opponents right in the mouth and he rarely got taken down due to his defense.. Liddell was a puncher... If Boxers train to defend that take down... MMA fighters would fall every time just like Ngannou lol
lol love to see mma fan boys feelings hurt. Francis was carried by furry in the their fight. Every true combat fan knows and saw that. Only mma fan boys thought Francis looked good boxing lol
As an MMA and boxing fan, the MMA creamers are the worst. Francis rose to the top of the heavyweight division basically being a BOXER knocking people out in the first round. Same with Derrick Lewis. Top boxers in and out of the ring and in real life would crush an equivalent MMA guy who is not a well versed boxer.
same. fell in love w MMA back in 2019 then boxing later on. I've experienced both sides of fans and mostly it's MMA fans going on about their sport's "superiority". Boxing fans usually don't mention MMA unless there's a crossover fight or as usual, an MMA guy calling out a boxer
Wtf is “a real fight”? A street fight has no rules, you can poke his eyes out, you can use a knife and all sort of weapons, a street fight is not mma. Get real, stop this nonsense. Boxing is a sport, a dangerous game where you can get hurt if it’s a mismatch. Respect each sport and stick to what you enjoy.
Joe Rogan used to say Ronda Rousey could beat elite men UFC and boxing fighters, then the so-called expert says at 3.49 of this video he thinks Ngannou could beat all the top heavyweight boxers, he's the man now, he's that good as Rogan says. Ngannou answers the challenge by showing he's not even up to middle level amateur boxing standards and gets brutally knocked cold in the 2nd round by Anthony Joshua 😂😂😂.
Rogan is a flip flopper. Rogan forgets there are boxers that punch harder than Francis. They think a damn punching machine is accurate in determining how hard someone can punch - LMAO. The real test is during a fight when the opponent punches back. I applaud AJ, too many haters out there.
Rogan has some of the worst takes in combat sports. The only reason he’s respected is because he was there first. He’s the combat sports equivalent of Soulja Boy. Complete dumbass, knows almost nothing about his field but managed to luck out and hop on something that would be massive in the future before it was big.
Rogan has smoked so much weed and been surrounded by so many of his comedian toadie friends that his critical thinking skills have been in the dumpster for a while. He's clearly not an idiot in terms of IQ but he's an incredibly undisiplined thinker who doesn't bother to really think his opinions through. Go back and listen to his commentary on the older UFCs before his podcast. A much sharper thinker.
Most Boxers would not argue they would beat an MMA guy. It's only the MMA guys going ' we could beat you guys' like a pro boxer going to an 'amatuer boxer 'I could beat you up' sound like kids.....so what!. What are you trying to prove. But in a club or street fight Boxing has its benefits. I don't fancy taking someone down on the road in a 10 man street brawl. How did Tito's grappling or ground game do him when he ran into Murrays punches!?
I don't respect that guy no more man, this dude changing his opinions based on who he's interviewing. First he said boxing doesn't work, then he said that when he was interviewing Mike Tyson he had to get a bigger table cos he was so scared, man, ion respect niggas who keep switchin up man
Ricardo Mayorga also won an MMA fight with just punching and ZERO grappling lmao. Sure he lost to a better contender the following fight, but he still won before that.
"Just a boxer" I've watched quite a few UFC matches and lots of those guys wouldn't get close enough to a professional boxer with a long snapping jab,quick footwork and a powerful right hand. Kicks would be their best chance.
@jacktorrance2633 no, just no. A MMA guy loses in a boxing match, there's no surprise here. But you really think kicks would be the only chance of a MMA fighter in the octogon against a boxer? Wake up, there's examples of boxers joining MMA fights, and they all got rolled upon. MMA and bocing are just two different sports, that's about it. Stop thinking boxing is superior, it is not.
@@seanpittaway5341 He beat Klitschko arguably better than AJ Joshua and Fury should definitely fight bro, boxing promotions are so slow with that stuff
These idiots think that when a bar fight breaks out, suddenly there's magically appearing octagon. Bar fights usually last seconds with someone getting punched in the face and KO'd. (sounds a lot like fisticuffs to me.)
@@fractalwalrus5409 Exactly. I've had security/law enforcement professionals specifically mention BJJ and ground fighting as their least ideal style for a street altercation. And we have seen the danger of this ourselves too. So ground fighting is probably out. I don't know if i have ever Regularly seen someone land effective kicks in a street fight either. If it happened it would probably be one kick and it would be low. Still seems rare. Most likely it's fists and stand-up grappling. What's the general rule however in a street fight, the first one who lands probably wins.
Street fights, cage fights, and boxing fights, are all completely different scenario's and last night showed that even ufc fighters are capable of getting straight knocked the fuck out ring cage or no ring.
Why would Manny Pacquiao, in the middle of his career, say "I want to do MMA?" To be called a "bad man" by dudes on the internet? It's like me suggesting Joe to leave podcasting and go work in the coal mines to prove to me that he really is a hardworking person.
AJ got it done like a pro boxer should. He was a -430 favorite for a reason! No need for anyone to hang their head if you supported Ngannou though. Francis is awesome, and one of the greatest combat athletes ever. His story is fantastic… lived the dream and He got paid tens of millions to do it. This was a nasty knock out. I wonder if he’ll box again. I’m a supporter in whatever that man does. True inspiration.
its weird how people turn so tribal over a fight between two people theyve never even seen in person let alone know personally. Boxing dorks get so precious about the idea that boxers are the best at boxing as if its even a debate.
@@callanc3925You're heat against boxers is clear in your statement, It convinced me that you mess with an boxer in your liftime He fucnd u real bad...😏 @callanc
I like Francis and he seems like a nice guy, but he definitely got cocky after the Fury fight and started to believe his own hype. His comments towards Tyson in the pre-fight press conference the other day showed how inflated his ego had become. So one positive for him might be that this fight will humble him and make him reevaluate his actual skill level, so that he can progress and improve.
This certainly holds for the current generation of fighters. This may change in the future due to the rise of mma worldwide, but up until a few years back no mma gym accepted kids nor was it popular for parents to sens their 10 year old to do mma. Most talent is in boxing and wrestling since young age, and most people stick to what they are good at. Sure some good boxers and wrestlers will try out in another discipline as they get older, but most will stay in their respective sports. The ones that were good but not that good will diversify and come to mma. Like I said the trend is possibly changing in recent years, but as of now ufc is not what the young ones gravitate towards or even dream about.
Cause Jake Paul is blonde. Thats cryptonite for MMA fighters who arent blonde themselves Oh and also I heard they were wearing boxing gloves for the fight and couldnt kick or grapple
@@Randoontheinternet365 that too. Its an unfortunate prerequisite to join the ranks. They give them a test. They punch them in the face real hard and if theres no reaction theyre not allowed in the UFC. The toughness against punches makes an MMA fighter resemble a boxer too much and people like Dana White dont want such association
I agree. I think Floyd carries his opponents to put on show. Plus, he’s over the hill. But imagine if they sanction Jake Paul Vs Canelo or some stupid stuff like that.
I seriously hope they do, because that would bring this shit to a screeching stop and I don’t anybody would miss the internet Muppet, except maybe his Mom
This is what I commented on a yt video after the Fury fight: "Don't let this embarrassing performance by Fury trick you into thinking that all the other ranked heavyweights wouldn't beat Ngannou.". This fight was just pointing out the obvious. Who in the right mind at the top level of heavyweight boxing takes 2 fights in 2 months, unless he doesn't take the first one seriously at all? That's what Fury did. Fury signed to fight Usyk next, a couple of days before fighting Ngannou, meaning that he took that fight as a warmup fight to get rid of the ring rust. It backfired, but that was the worst-case scenario for Fury and he still edged the win.
I always said Joshua would fuck him up ngannu was happy to eat 2 or 3 punches against Tyson cuz he's a point scoring boxer and ngannu knew he'd do more damage if he could just land one, evidence was there for all to see fury won on points but looked way worse damage wise... AJ throws his punches with more intent and ngannu was never gunna be able to eat those shots
Yes, but Fury also went into the ring in terrible shape, looks like he sat on the couch and ate only ice cream. If Fury had been in as good of shape as Ngannou, working out a lot with the right coaches, I think the results of the fight would have been different.
Joe secretly hates boxing, he said f**k Joe Louis when talking to Dana about Tyson. No fan of boxing or combat sports would ever disrespect Louis like that. It was not only disgusting but truly revealing of Rogans character.
@@wr9209 It is possible to respect one discipline without shitting on another. You don't have to say that one is better than the other, but regularly disrespects boxing.
@@user-zv1zz5xd3j possible? Yes. Likely? Not when people are vested and put their chips down on either side. Joe will always be team MMA because he’s taekwondo background, and he was a big part of the UFC as a brand growing, promoting MMA. Admitting another martial art is superior to your own isn’t really going to happen in such a high pride environment. He says he ‘respects’ it, but in truth it’s a bit on the patronising side. When a guy comes in like Connor Macgregor beating a lot of the guys with fists, they never really talked about the fact he started as an amateur boxer before going into MMA, because it doesn’t support the narrative, it’s entirely possible a boxer in their prime could do really well in MMA. BJJ guys learn how to strike a little, nothing stopping boxers from learning a little takedown defence. Personally, I think let the individual fighters do the fighting, if your reason for A beating B is ‘they do ‘insert martial art here’, then that is just hyperbolic fanboy or casual bull crap. I’m only interested in breakdowns where people are picking up on specific analytical tactical breakdowns of the strengths of two individuals, but damn is it rare you come across that in the media.
i'm tired mma people saying "in a real fight." in a real fight i'm shanking or shooting, not rolling around on concrete. boxing is the pinnacle of fisticuffs because it is simple, strict but extremely brutal. you have limited areas you can strike, and you have to learn to be effective at striking those specific areas with precision all whilst evading your opponent. mma is far too broad for my taste. it's like football ⚽️ with the goal being 3 times as wide as regulation. yes, more scoring and perhaps more action, but less precision and exactitude. i'm not downgrading the skill of mma fighters, but it is just a far easier sport to excel in especially when compared to boxing. boxing takes much more time because there are no shenanigans. ngannou wanted to box, but the coach said that would take too long and you can make money faster and easier in mma -- their words/story, not mine.
When mma guys tell you "in a real fight" just tell them: "I didn't know 'hugging and rolling' like a sissy was 'real fighting". Besides who TF are they to tell? Isn't war 'real fighting', isn't a knife fight 'real fighting'? Boxing is fist fighting and fist fighting is fighting like men.
I’m sorry but any mma fighter, you take away their kicking and grappling, they can’t box for shit. McGregor, ngannou etc. boxing is an art in itself. It’s a man’s sport. No kicking, no grappling, just let the fists do the talking. I know you’ll say, “well if boxers crossed over” but at the end of the day, fists do the talking. How it should be. Boxing will always be superior 👌
Respect for what? Beating a guy who’s had one professional fight! Look what happened to Joshua, twice, when he came face to face with Usyk! Now let’s see Joshua in the Octagon and see how he gets on. Total respect to Francis in all of this
yeah much respect to Joshua for beating a guy in his second professional fight. Let's see Joshua or Fury do the same in MMA. They won't cause they are too scared to take that risk.
There’s no incentive for them to fight in MMA, when they can make far more money in boxing. The fight proved that Francis is a mere mortal, and isn’t the fighting-god that Joe Rogan painted him out to be.
@@brucewayne9699it proved nothing man, its obvious he is gonna lose in boxing contest, he is a fighter, full fighter, mma, not a boxer, it was expected
Just goes to show Joe Rogan is a complete tool who does not like nor promote boxing and is clearly biased towards MMA, AJ proved him wrong in devastating fashion….
@@colorfulbleeding You do talk absolute rubbish. Are you claiming that it's the 16 oz gloves that make Joshua hit so hard? The bigger gloves cushion the impact of a blow.
@@thewatchman6074 it is basic entropy. Yes gloves play a big role, look at bare knuckles boxing, they don t have big gloves and so they won t shake the brain like big impact gloves would do.
@@colorfulbleeding The bottom line is, no one in MMA has ever hit Ngannou with the same force that Joshua did. That's why he was out cold. Must be those fragile putty fists of Joshua's eh?
@@thewatchman6074 I think he got kicked way stronger than a fist could ever do. It is interesting debate tho because without the big boxing gloves it s super hard to parry a punch that s why MMA fighter never really bang a lot and when they do bang those little gloves put way less impact on the brain. So it is true he probably never received an impact like that in MMA thanks to the gloves.
Boxing's position as the top combat sport appears to irk Rogan. With a history that traces back to the inaugural Olympics, boxing's legacy is unmatched. On Friday, AJ underscored this point, giving Francis a humbling demonstration of skill and discipline. Francis found himself overwhelmed, taking hits from AJ that skilled boxers typically evade. This was a pure exhibition of brute force. This isn't akin to someone striking a power cube and then claiming to be the hardest hitter on the globe.
This proves that it wasn't so much Ngannou that was great against Fury but rather Fury being lousy vs Ngannou,when you have a boxer who's still in it and doesn't in his heart want to retire like Fury,the MMA guy gets his ass kicked.
In one of his recent analysis videos, Mighty Mouse said that he would favour Joshua to beat Ngannou in MMA. Give Usyk 6 months of MMA training and he'll probably beat most UFC light heavyweights. There is a handful of elite boxers who could do really well with minimal training. Bud Crawford would obviously do very well as he is an excellent wrestler as well.
AJ saved boxing reputation, that was a proper fucking boxing match where men actually lay there hearts and warrior will into each other wasn't no hop scotch bullshit it was bear 🐻 boxing
MMA vs Boxing, two completely different sports with different rules and I don't understand why there is constant talk about who would win in a real fight? None of the professionals will fight each other in a street fight. A really absurd story and completely unnecessary emphasis.
I don’t think Fury took his fight with Nogo seriously,, Fury has a helluva chin,, he’s with stood wilders best punches 3 times ,, also Nogos best ,, he’s about the only to do it
no mate, he was saying that mma is far more complicated than boxing due to the many techniques involved... but you are no better fighter than a good boxer if you practice everything being good on nothing.@@jeffc9089
MMA is not a real fight, I has rules. A real fight doesn't have any rules, somebody could use a gun etc Boxing is an art form, a skill and should beat an MMA guy every day of the week. It's not up to a boxer to take part in a lessor sport.
Dude, Joe is salty over the result. Francis prepared for his boxing transition for 4 years before entering the boxing ring. Fury didnt prepare at all for the fight and came in crazy out of shape on fight night. After francis did better than people thought, Joshua properly prepared and disposed of him. Francis didnt get old over night, it was a fluke, and if he rematched fury and fury took him seriously, im sure the result would be similar. maybe not the same as AJ because Fury doesnt have that type of power, but i bet he would soundly beat Francis in the rematch.
That’s like saying navy seals training doesn’t have guys actually shooting each other, it’s nothing like a real gunfight. Yeah but they’d still fuck up any civilian in a gunfight. You’re going to eye gouge? Oh cool the Bjj black belt with a million ways to choke and break your joints can too genius
Ngannou never stopped after knocking out his MMA opponents cold... just imagine if after that KO, Joshua hit Francis's unconscious head on the ground 2 or 3 more times with full power? That's what Ngannou ALWAYS did, without any need for it... Karma. Thank you Joshua
Yeah I was half expecting him to do that then I remembered this is boxing where they aren't allowed to do crazy sh-t like that, surprised no one has died in the UFC from that yet
AJ was so comfortable after the first round he even threw basic boxing out the window and got the knockout with a lead right hand. Joshua never even bothered throwing a jab before that right hand bomb.
Fury basically took Ngannou lightly and the fight too close to the Usyk date. When he realised it wasn't going to be a walk over he had to go into damage-limitation mode so as not to get hurt and lose the Usyk date (and how well did that work!?). Had he not had that worry, he might have mixed it more. Joshua wasn't so arrogant and was able to do the job.
@@milkman4evayou’re simply not right. He wouldn’t be able to knock Ngannou out. Ngannou can be reckless, and impose his size and strength on Usyk. I’m not saying Ngannou would hit Usyk clean, or win the match… but he wouldn’t be in danger of getting knocked out like he was with Joshua. He can most likely take Usyk the distance, even if he does get embarrassed.
After that Fury fluke against a fresh off the couch Fury, I guess most people forgot that this is boxing, not MMA. And Francis clearly let that shit go to his head. He was so damn reckless.
How many hours podcasting after the fight and Joe still hasn’t managed to mention it. Funny that, he was explaining Ngannou to anyone who’d listen before!
That’s how a Boxer should box against an MMA guy. Clinical and violent.
Why, no money there?
How should a boxer fight in mma? Oh yeah, will never happen
@@boky7731 Because there's more money in boxing. If there was more money in MMA we would be seeing Boxers call out MMA guys to the octagon.
@@boky7731 like holly holm did
@@boky7731 sean strickland
Here right after AJ knocked the F*** out of Ngannou
lol same
After all that shit he get's KTFO inside 2 rounds.
Same Haha
😂😂😂 yo también 🥊
Yep just got alert I’m happy stay in your lane lol I wanted a jones fight
Massive "my dad could beat up your dad" energy from Rogan
Rogan has some of sort of weird obsession with this kind of stuff. Might be due to the fact that he wasn't tough enough to make in kickboxing or taekwondo or whatever he was doing at the time.
@@jumbothompsonwhere you?
So perfect 👍🏼
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@@israelhernandez5431 fuck good call man, that was so dumb of me 😂
Went from "sleeping in a parking structure" to "sleeping in front of millions of people". Real full circle moment
Then woke up a multi millionaire. Not quite the circle
Not needed sir. He a good dude that been through a lot. Chillout!!
Sensitive people. Can't take a joke.
😂
@@huntelaar404 Biggest losers are the ones who brag about another man's "success" so congratulations! 🤡
I thought Ngannou had died in the ring. That knockout by Joshua was brutal.
“You were magnificent, Ngannou. I won’t forget you as long as I live”
That ko was 1 of the hardest, cleanest punches you're likely to see
Aj absolutely leveled that indestructible monster. Francis was looking so good at first as well. Joshua nearly killed him.
Do explain? Francis was dropped in the first from a hard straight right. lol Francis looked worse than bam askrin
@@pr0l0gue Stand proud you are strong
Why do MMA fans feel so goddamn insecure after an MMA fighter loses in a Boxing match. They go straight to "If it was a real fight.....", but it wasn't. A non boxer lost to a boxer what's the issue here?
I respect both sports. I lean more towards MMA, but I think the reason why is the a lot of boxing fans are always like "Boxers can beat anyone at any time. Some kid boxing at the YMCA would easily knock out the best MMA fights with on punch in any rule set. The reason why he doesn't is because he'd make more money in a real sport."
Now, a lot of fans of boxing do respect MMA and recognize the strengths of weaknesses of both sports and recognize that since there's a greater variety of weapons in MMA that MMA striking does not translate well into boxing since many of boxing's best tools could leave a fighter open to takedowns or kicks.
It's mostly just shittalking between hypeboys.
@@libertatemadvocatus1797while there are plenty of brain dead boxing fans who say this, it’s mostly mma fans who talk the most shit.
@@RaulRamirez-jv4rn
I think it's 50/50.
There's plenty of shit talking MMA fans. MMA does have more of reputation for being in-your-face aggressive than boxing does.
But there's a lot of boxing snobs out there too.
They just want boxing money ,there's no reason a champion boxer go to mma
Only fucking idiots fight for 'Real' no money and if you fall wrong your dead, can we stop with this "if it was a real fight"
Listening to Rogan is like listening to a 10 year old talking to his mates.
Haha!!! Damn true.
You are awfully familiar with young boys it seems you creep.
no one is the baddest anything in a real fight. mma and boxing are just games....
Any man above the age of 10 is familiar with ten year old boys because he used to be one.
The inference you made - where your mind immediately went - makes it look like you are the creep here.
@@gentlemanjim480 Yup! The answer by khancrow7015 is a classical case of projection.
A boxer hitting somebody with those little ufc gloves would kill somebody
"Ngannou cant be hurt,his heads like Granite"
* No one told AJs right hand.
Thats why we saw the right hand against tyson when he dropped him but ok.
@@jonmacistWtf does that have to do with Ngannou getting flattened?😂
Flattened like a lawnchair. @@jonmacist
@@H-G89 must be dumb the guy jsut said we never seen that right hand before but he alrerady used it in other fights so we have seen it, so the statment is wrong and your confused lol,.
Bro lol
Anthony Joshua just showed the whole world that Joe Rogan is delirious.
Reality VS talk talk talk.
In a real fight UFC guy would win..
@@Faladin85 Bla bla blaaa... ...bla blaa bla... ...blaaaaa bla bla.
@@Faladin85 regardless a top mma striker can't hang in a striking match with an elite boxer lolz
In a "real fight", after a short scuffle, an UFC guy would get punched in the face, and he would lie down and fall asleep.
That's the reality of it.
@@bmsuperstar1watch some of the early UFC fights. Boxers and strikers were annihilated by trained grapplers.
I’m always amazed how little Joe Rogan knows about what he claims to be an expert in
he is the most clueless "expert" in the world
He's a biased 'sceptic' with literally everything in the World except his own sport 😂
He's never been a smart man
There's a guy in every pub who talks like Joe. 😂
The Rogan hype curse is undefeated
Never forget Rogan said Ronda Rousey could beat half of the male bantamweight roster.
Alex Pereira
@@hush-615 Rogan said Rousey could beat Mayweather lol
The man video game curse is the goat
He still believes that Ronda could beat him in a "real" fight.
This is the guy who said Ronda rousey could beat mayweathet why would anyone take him serious
@opendagates8642 He’s also the guy that claims to be a comedian (which by the way is the best joke he ever had)
Still can't fathom Joe referred to Fury as the "best heavyweight boxer, maybe ever". He's not even the best heavyweight boxer from the UK today
Fury's resume is pretty bad, Wilder with lacking fundamentals who only beat Ortiz and an old Klitschko and Fury failed a drug test after the fight. And he has a trilogy with Chisora of all people.
Fury and AJ fought in arguably the weakest era of HW boxing since WW2 skill wise.
We have no idea how good they are because only AJ has fought 1 elite HW who was in shape. Fury is about to.
Fury on his best day would handily beat AJ
@Garrett1240 maybe 5 years ago. But Fury had treated his body like a septic tank and that catches up with everyone. He hasn't looked good since Wilder 2. He's slowing down and catching shots he never used too.
How much he has left remains to be seen. Even his own brother said Tyson someday will age overnight because of his lifestyle. Has that already happened? We'll know after Usyk.
He's the best HW of the generation you useless dimwit 😂 only HW in history to win every single title and the only HW to ever beat multiple champs with 10+ defenses
I love how the MMA world forgets that Ray Mercer went into the UFC and knocked out UFC heavyweight champion Tim Sylva.
No mma fighter has ever KOd a boxer. Even fat punch drunk james toney didnt get kod
Even a 199 yrs old Mayorga dominated mma. 😂😂😂😂😂
Then got submitted by kimbo slice lol
@@xXMadDriftXx Mercer is 100 yrs old. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@methuz2304 I know but they brought up his ko over tim so I brought up kimbo subbing him
This is what they always said to live off the boxing name. MMA is cool, those guys are badasses, but the real reason boxers don't cross over is because there's no real money for them in MMA. That's why the MMA guys cross over way more often.
"Live off the boxing name" lmao... MMA has big events every other weekend. Boxing has like two fights a year anyone that isn't a die hard boxing fan cares about and they usually involve an MMA fighter lol
@@NF12222and nothing of what you said debunks what the commenter above said 😭
@@NF12222bro no one’s gives a fuck about MMA in the real world
"Boxing is dead" yet every MMA fighter that has crossed over has earned more money in one fight than their entire career 😂 Follow the money, it doesn't lie in showing what's more popular. Not mma propaganda.
This aged like Rogan’s hair
😂😂😂😂
MMA = Jack of all trades, master of none.
mma = meme martial arts
Boxing= professional prize fighting!
MMA= semi professional club fighting!
Trust me….The prize money and amateur/olympic pedigree for the athletes prove your point way more than ur insightful words brother…👍🏾
AJ hit him like he was throwing a 100 MPH pitch, he threw that punch like a fresh closer.
🤣🤣🤣
…and Ngannou wasn’t able to take his “base”
That punch was slow and telegraphed as fuck the reason it landed so well is because Frances ain’t a boxer
@@leedutch5155who TF cares, it still landed😅
That second knockdown was absolutely from the Moon. I'm impressed that Ngannou got up from that because if he was a boxer, his corner would have screamed for him to stay down.
lol...Ngannou the indestructible wiped out inside 2 rounds.
lol
He had a bad night, let's see what one of these boxers can do in the octagon but we all know it won't happen and we also know why...
@@SuperMarioTomma95 A very bad night indeed.
@SuperMarioTomma95 why tf would they go to mma? They don't train on nothing but boxing
@@SuperMarioTomma95 they're not the ones who stepped into his world, he stepped into their world - of course he's going to get his ass slept, at least for his first few fights. Don't challenge the best in the world and not expect to get slept
Ray Mercer went from boxing to an MMA fight and knocked Tim Sylvia out cold..
James Toney went to MMA and fought a 45 year old Randy Couture and got choked out in under 60 seconds. And there were rules in that Mercer Silva fight, it was suppose to be no grappling and kicking which is why Mercer looked at him the way he did when that first kick landed.
@@MOGMirrosAs if James Toney wasn’t obese and way past his prime lol. The fact the UFC guy threw a kick shows it wasn’t a boxing match and your guy got KO’d stiff by a fat washed up Ray Mercer.
@Cobmetal1 The exact same thing can be said about Tim. Dude was way past his prime and was forced to fight a stand up fight in a cage match. Mercer literally told them he would do it as long as no ground game or elbows or kicks were allowed. At least JT said all or nothing and wanted to find out. Not sure if you know JT but he was always heavy in the second half of his career. That's why he went to HW so he didn't have to kill himself and stop eating to make 168. Didn't stop him from going 12 in boxing though. No boxer gets out of the cage if it's a real MMA fight.
@@MOGMirros here's an example of how a boxer can dominate MMA... Remember Chuck Liddell the ice man ? He punched MMA opponents right in the mouth and he rarely got taken down due to his defense.. Liddell was a puncher... If Boxers train to defend that take down... MMA fighters would fall every time just like Ngannou lol
@@MOGMirros Sylvia was the UFC champ literally a year prior lol. As for Toney, his prime was many years earlier at 168.
Butterbean moved to mma and won several fights, including getting submissions. Rogan hasn't got a clue.
Haha I love that guy.
AJ just destroyed ngannoi
“Stand proud Ngannou, you are strong”
@@pr0l0gueJJK brainrot in the boxing world, just wow 😂😂😂
lol love to see mma fan boys feelings hurt. Francis was carried by furry in the their fight. Every true combat fan knows and saw that. Only mma fan boys thought Francis looked good boxing lol
he just destroyed nigannou yeah.
Spelling is whooping this thread's ass! 🤦🏽♂️
This aged well 😂😂
What exactly didn’t age well?
What he said is still true. The UFC heavyweight champion would destroy any boxing heavyweight champion in a REAL fight. It’s still true
@@Devdogshe’d get chinned just the same 😂
@@julianmorris9951 Nope 😂 you delusional muppet
@@julianmorris9951 Stop jt😂😂😂 mike tyson himself said mma fighters and teddy atlas said they would kill boxers in a fight
As an MMA and boxing fan, the MMA creamers are the worst. Francis rose to the top of the heavyweight division basically being a BOXER knocking people out in the first round. Same with Derrick Lewis. Top boxers in and out of the ring and in real life would crush an equivalent MMA guy who is not a well versed boxer.
same. fell in love w MMA back in 2019 then boxing later on. I've experienced both sides of fans and mostly it's MMA fans going on about their sport's "superiority". Boxing fans usually don't mention MMA unless there's a crossover fight or as usual, an MMA guy calling out a boxer
Wtf is “a real fight”? A street fight has no rules, you can poke his eyes out, you can use a knife and all sort of weapons, a street fight is not mma. Get real, stop this nonsense. Boxing is a sport, a dangerous game where you can get hurt if it’s a mismatch. Respect each sport and stick to what you enjoy.
Joe Rogan used to say Ronda Rousey could beat elite men UFC and boxing fighters, then the so-called expert says at 3.49 of this video he thinks Ngannou could beat all the top heavyweight boxers, he's the man now, he's that good as Rogan says. Ngannou answers the challenge by showing he's not even up to middle level amateur boxing standards and gets brutally knocked cold in the 2nd round by Anthony Joshua 😂😂😂.
Rogan is a flip flopper. Rogan forgets there are boxers that punch harder than Francis. They think a damn punching machine is accurate in determining how hard someone can punch - LMAO. The real test is during a fight when the opponent punches back. I applaud AJ, too many haters out there.
It's insane how a so called 'fight expert commentator' can make such ridiculous statements you would expect from online casual trolls.
Rogan has some of the worst takes in combat sports. The only reason he’s respected is because he was there first. He’s the combat sports equivalent of Soulja Boy. Complete dumbass, knows almost nothing about his field but managed to luck out and hop on something that would be massive in the future before it was big.
@@cnwil4594 prime Mike Tyson puts prime Francis in the morgue
Rogan has smoked so much weed and been surrounded by so many of his comedian toadie friends that his critical thinking skills have been in the dumpster for a while. He's clearly not an idiot in terms of IQ but he's an incredibly undisiplined thinker who doesn't bother to really think his opinions through. Go back and listen to his commentary on the older UFCs before his podcast. A much sharper thinker.
Proof that Tyson rolled off the barstool the morning of his fight with Francis. 🤣
Nah just proof that he doesn't have any power and if you just walk through him you can do some real damage
@@davidmclaren9027tell that to Wilder maybe in the 4 fight he can implement this revolutionary tactic
@@davidmclaren9027anyone who’s been following Fury’s career knows he didn’t care at all about Francis and their fight. Super out of shape.😂
Not a prove. An assumption. Nobody nows shit everyone just speculates.
@@cerberus3426 IV watched a lot of Tyson the guy goes to the boxing gym every time he falls out with his Mrs which is practically everyday 😂
Joe said that Ronda Rousey could fight not only grown men, but real male fighters.
He also thought that a gorilla would rip a grizzly bear to shreds.
The funny thing is chimps beat up on gorillas.
Most Boxers would not argue they would beat an MMA guy. It's only the MMA guys going ' we could beat you guys' like a pro boxer going to an 'amatuer boxer 'I could beat you up' sound like kids.....so what!. What are you trying to prove.
But in a club or street fight Boxing has its benefits. I don't fancy taking someone down on the road in a 10 man street brawl. How did Tito's grappling or ground game do him when he ran into Murrays punches!?
Joe Rogan knows as much about boxing as he does every other topic
I don't respect that guy no more man, this dude changing his opinions based on who he's interviewing. First he said boxing doesn't work, then he said that when he was interviewing Mike Tyson he had to get a bigger table cos he was so scared, man, ion respect niggas who keep switchin up man
A jack of all trades and a master at none
Rogan is waaaaay better at boxing pontification then he is at comedy and he absolutely sucks at boxing commentary!
Said wat I've been thinking for years
Nothing then. 😂
Great example of why you should not let your bias blind you.
ngannou are real fighter
@@herlenicecold didn't do much for him in the ring though, did it?
@@callummcintyre713 Octagon bro welcome to here if you dare to die
@@herlenicecold that probably sounded a lot better in your head.
I've heard more intimidating lines from drunks on a Saturday night.
@@callummcintyre713 Ok take just one leg kick let see if you talk
Has Joe Rogan even commented on the fight since it happened? I see he had full podcasts already but not a peep about the fight lol.
😂I’ve been looking everywhere to see if he has
Still waiting dudes, I don't think we will ever hear the reaction. Too much smoke was blown up Francis to come back down now.
@@jimmelton5846 yup looks like it at this point
Wrong. Ray Mercer turned MMA and knocked out Tim Sikva with one punch.
Ricardo Mayorga also won an MMA fight with just punching and ZERO grappling lmao. Sure he lost to a better contender the following fight, but he still won before that.
@@summerrunner1755 Mayorga fought a bum
"Just a boxer" I've watched quite a few UFC matches and lots of those guys wouldn't get close enough to a professional boxer with a long snapping jab,quick footwork and a powerful right hand. Kicks would be their best chance.
But kicks take waaaay to long to deliver and they tend to rapidly loose power when the Boxer steps inside and disconnects the kickers fuse box!
A lot of MMA fighters don’t have the athleticism and endurance that boxing demands.
@jacktorrance2633 no, just no. A MMA guy loses in a boxing match, there's no surprise here. But you really think kicks would be the only chance of a MMA fighter in the octogon against a boxer? Wake up, there's examples of boxers joining MMA fights, and they all got rolled upon.
MMA and bocing are just two different sports, that's about it. Stop thinking boxing is superior, it is not.
@@XxMoixX011 All round boxing is superior. It’s an art form and a noble sport. That’s why it pays significantly more.
Bro think a boxer would not break his hand with first punches. MMA guys are so low jabs would just hit the top of head.
So now we all know fury is just done and not that good. A.J just made a mockery of that fight.
Fury is facing Usyk for #1 spot, lineal championship, WBC, WBA, IBF, WBO belts next in the biggest HW fight for 20+ years.
And who exactly has fury fought up till now 🤔 🤣 I will say no more because there is no more to say.
@@seanpittaway5341 Who hasn't he fought?
@@agt155 AJ
@@seanpittaway5341 He beat Klitschko arguably better than AJ
Joshua and Fury should definitely fight bro, boxing promotions are so slow with that stuff
Hey Joe, a fist fight IS a real fight. Dope.
These idiots think that when a bar fight breaks out, suddenly there's magically appearing octagon. Bar fights usually last seconds with someone getting punched in the face and KO'd. (sounds a lot like fisticuffs to me.)
@@fractalwalrus5409 Exactly. I've had security/law enforcement professionals specifically mention BJJ and ground fighting as their least ideal style for a street altercation. And we have seen the danger of this ourselves too.
So ground fighting is probably out. I don't know if i have ever Regularly seen someone land effective kicks in a street fight either. If it happened it would probably be one kick and it would be low. Still seems rare. Most likely it's fists and stand-up grappling.
What's the general rule however in a street fight, the first one who lands probably wins.
I love Ngannou but AJ did what a former two time heavy weight boxing champ should do. He knocked him out.
From the man who said Rousey beats Mayweather.. Stop pretending Rogan has any idea about boxing lol.
He's just like hungry he changes his opinions based on who he's interviewing
Francais skill set is being 300lbs of solid muscle and fast.
Joe Rogan giving out Ronda Rousey vibes here 😂
Aj would send Francis to the hospital with mma gloves
Street fights, cage fights, and boxing fights, are all completely different scenario's and last night showed that even ufc fighters are capable of getting straight knocked the fuck out ring cage or no ring.
He almost died tonight! Wiild
I know!!! Can't believe he put Joshua down like that!!! 👊
@@MrDoctor88tf are u on about?
@@niyazahmed3448
Lol. 'Mr.Doctor' is on good Stuff.😂
Can we stop putting amateurs in with professional boxers now?
Yeah and can Tyson stop dodging Usyk....hes ruining boxing...and I used to like him a lot.
Its the inly way anyone will watch boxing😂
@@GTOberfest They're fighting.
But....he was the best heavyweight striker in all of MMA.🤷
@dtoursdigi_tours699 He isn’t the best, just the most powerful
Why would Manny Pacquiao, in the middle of his career, say "I want to do MMA?" To be called a "bad man" by dudes on the internet? It's like me suggesting Joe to leave podcasting and go work in the coal mines to prove to me that he really is a hardworking person.
Boxers don't switch to MMA because the money sucks compared to boxing. Ngannou earned more for the Fury fight than his entire UFC career combined.
Yep and "boxing is dead" apparently 😂 yet the money always says otherwise.
@@summerrunner1755 Boxing is a circus show precisely for that reason. Stop acting like Boxing didn't nosedive.
@@PoliticsRealbut why do world champion boxers get paid so much more than the UFC champs, Dana is a greedy asshole I’m guessing 🤷♂️✌️
AJ got it done like a pro boxer should. He was a -430 favorite for a reason! No need for anyone to hang their head if you supported Ngannou though. Francis is awesome, and one of the greatest combat athletes ever. His story is fantastic… lived the dream and He got paid tens of millions to do it. This was a nasty knock out. I wonder if he’ll box again. I’m a supporter in whatever that man does. True inspiration.
🌟
its weird how people turn so tribal over a fight between two people theyve never even seen in person let alone know personally. Boxing dorks get so precious about the idea that boxers are the best at boxing as if its even a debate.
@@callanc3925You're heat against boxers is clear in your statement,
It convinced me that you mess with an boxer in your liftime
He fucnd u real bad...😏 @callanc
I like Francis and he seems like a nice guy, but he definitely got cocky after the Fury fight and started to believe his own hype. His comments towards Tyson in the pre-fight press conference the other day showed how inflated his ego had become. So one positive for him might be that this fight will humble him and make him reevaluate his actual skill level, so that he can progress and improve.
@@brucewayne9699 True Batman
Only reason a fighter joins UFC is because they are not good enough boxers. Boxers make way more money then UFC fighters.
and you've got legit proof that that's the "only" reason they join, right?.....smh.
This certainly holds for the current generation of fighters. This may change in the future due to the rise of mma worldwide, but up until a few years back no mma gym accepted kids nor was it popular for parents to sens their 10 year old to do mma.
Most talent is in boxing and wrestling since young age, and most people stick to what they are good at. Sure some good boxers and wrestlers will try out in another discipline as they get older, but most will stay in their respective sports. The ones that were good but not that good will diversify and come to mma.
Like I said the trend is possibly changing in recent years, but as of now ufc is not what the young ones gravitate towards or even dream about.
@@michaelbassey1993his proof:"just trust me bro"
He is a beast in MMA, but boxing he got found out
MMA fans like to pretend that MMA doesn't have rules and a referee.
Weight classes, referees, doctors, judges, rounds, breaks, cornermen, cut men, fuck load or rules, but to them it’s “a rEaL fIgHt”
I thought he was dead after that punch from aj 😂
Seriously i was thinking he died ! I was scared.
Same
I saw that with the wife and she was terrified, thought the poor man had passed
Facts that was the most brutal ko I’ve seen since Marquez folded manny.
You should have seen bryce mitchel getying knocked out by josh emmet i really thought he would die it wad so brutal
Casual CZcamsrs like Jake Paul regularly pummel MMA legends. Why is that?
Cause Jake Paul is blonde. Thats cryptonite for MMA fighters who arent blonde themselves
Oh and also I heard they were wearing boxing gloves for the fight and couldnt kick or grapple
@@Randoontheinternet365 that too. Its an unfortunate prerequisite to join the ranks. They give them a test. They punch them in the face real hard and if theres no reaction theyre not allowed in the UFC. The toughness against punches makes an MMA fighter resemble a boxer too much and people like Dana White dont want such association
rogan knows nothing about boxing.
About life in general lol just suckering dumb d bag bois to listen to his garbage
What happens when he fights those other guys??!!
He gets knocked the fuck out and goes to sleep after already being knocked down TWICE!!!!
these non boxers vs Elite boxers like joshua should not be sanctioned .
ngannou couldve been seriously hurt
stop this madness .
I have the bad feeling he did get seriously hurt, he may never fully recover from those blows.
I agree. I think Floyd carries his opponents to put on show. Plus, he’s over the hill.
But imagine if they sanction Jake Paul Vs Canelo or some stupid stuff like that.
True...Ngannou almost got killed.....Doctors scrambled around with oxygen, etc....nasty stuff.
He won’t, give it a year or so and sadly that truth will be revealed
I seriously hope they do, because that would bring this shit to a screeching stop and I don’t anybody would miss the internet Muppet, except maybe his Mom
Fury sold entertainment and a hype train, AJ blew up the train before anyone's ticket got scanned.
Facts fury made ngannou 30 million dollars richer😂
@@Moesie he can make more millions dollars by getting more ko's, who knows people maybe want to see ?!
@@Moesie nope. Ngannou got 10 mill from the Fury fight and 20mill from AJ.
@@fractalwalrus5409 yes 30 mil
"No-one wants to see fury v usky " - Joe Rogan must be on crack again
Why hasn’t Joe react to Ngannou getting smoked?
He's an idiot. Doesn't know shit about boxing.
9 days later, still no comment from joe. lol
Because he’s a punk b***
2 months later still no reaction
This is what I commented on a yt video after the Fury fight: "Don't let this embarrassing performance by Fury trick you into thinking that all the other ranked heavyweights wouldn't beat Ngannou.". This fight was just pointing out the obvious. Who in the right mind at the top level of heavyweight boxing takes 2 fights in 2 months, unless he doesn't take the first one seriously at all? That's what Fury did. Fury signed to fight Usyk next, a couple of days before fighting Ngannou, meaning that he took that fight as a warmup fight to get rid of the ring rust. It backfired, but that was the worst-case scenario for Fury and he still edged the win.
I always said Joshua would fuck him up ngannu was happy to eat 2 or 3 punches against Tyson cuz he's a point scoring boxer and ngannu knew he'd do more damage if he could just land one, evidence was there for all to see fury won on points but looked way worse damage wise... AJ throws his punches with more intent and ngannu was never gunna be able to eat those shots
Fury lost that fight, but he kept his belts due to the damage a loss would have done to the Fury v Usyk fight.
Boxing is rigged Francis won against fury.
Yes, but Fury also went into the ring in terrible shape, looks like he sat on the couch and ate only ice cream. If Fury had been in as good of shape as Ngannou, working out a lot with the right coaches, I think the results of the fight would have been different.
@@huwhitecavebeast1972 I remember a fat Tyson fury beating up deontay wilder, he was in way better shape for ngannu....
Joe secretly hates boxing, he said f**k Joe Louis when talking to Dana about Tyson. No fan of boxing or combat sports would ever disrespect Louis like that. It was not only disgusting but truly revealing of Rogans character.
Exactly ! I see right through it … he always throws subliminal shots at boxing
Off the cuff remarks show more of the person than hours of careful conversation
Of course, the guy comes from a kicking background. To admit boxing is superior is to crap on himself.
@@wr9209 It is possible to respect one discipline without shitting on another. You don't have to say that one is better than the other, but regularly disrespects boxing.
@@user-zv1zz5xd3j possible? Yes. Likely? Not when people are vested and put their chips down on either side. Joe will always be team MMA because he’s taekwondo background, and he was a big part of the UFC as a brand growing, promoting MMA. Admitting another martial art is superior to your own isn’t really going to happen in such a high pride environment. He says he ‘respects’ it, but in truth it’s a bit on the patronising side.
When a guy comes in like Connor Macgregor beating a lot of the guys with fists, they never really talked about the fact he started as an amateur boxer before going into MMA, because it doesn’t support the narrative, it’s entirely possible a boxer in their prime could do really well in MMA. BJJ guys learn how to strike a little, nothing stopping boxers from learning a little takedown defence.
Personally, I think let the individual fighters do the fighting, if your reason for A beating B is ‘they do ‘insert martial art here’, then that is just hyperbolic fanboy or casual bull crap. I’m only interested in breakdowns where people are picking up on specific analytical tactical breakdowns of the strengths of two individuals, but damn is it rare you come across that in the media.
i'm tired mma people saying "in a real fight." in a real fight i'm shanking or shooting, not rolling around on concrete.
boxing is the pinnacle of fisticuffs because it is simple, strict but extremely brutal. you have limited areas you can strike, and you have to learn to be effective at striking those specific areas with precision all whilst evading your opponent.
mma is far too broad for my taste. it's like football ⚽️ with the goal being 3 times as wide as regulation. yes, more scoring and perhaps more action, but less precision and exactitude.
i'm not downgrading the skill of mma fighters, but it is just a far easier sport to excel in especially when compared to boxing. boxing takes much more time because there are no shenanigans. ngannou wanted to box, but the coach said that would take too long and you can make money faster and easier in mma -- their words/story, not mine.
When mma guys tell you "in a real fight" just tell them: "I didn't know 'hugging and rolling' like a sissy was 'real fighting". Besides who TF are they to tell? Isn't war 'real fighting', isn't a knife fight 'real fighting'? Boxing is fist fighting and fist fighting is fighting like men.
I’m sorry but any mma fighter, you take away their kicking and grappling, they can’t box for shit. McGregor, ngannou etc. boxing is an art in itself. It’s a man’s sport. No kicking, no grappling, just let the fists do the talking. I know you’ll say, “well if boxers crossed over” but at the end of the day, fists do the talking. How it should be. Boxing will always be superior 👌
Every time a ufc guy fights a boxer? They lose 😂
In boxing
@@armbar_or_triangle Chess
@@chalkandcheese1868 ? Not in MMA
He beat tyson fury
@ARE123 plenty of MMA guys have been slept by boxers in MMA including ufc champions
Wow... Turns out Ngannou is nothing in front of AJ 👀
clowned by his own power
Punchers chance is a bigger factor than any mma fan boy would like to admit…. All it takes is one shot , or 3 straight right hands 😂
Prepared boxer is a different level
Respect to AJ made an example of ngannou.
Respect for what? Beating a guy who’s had one professional fight! Look what happened to Joshua, twice, when he came face to face with Usyk! Now let’s see Joshua in the Octagon and see how he gets on. Total respect to Francis in all of this
yeah much respect to Joshua for beating a guy in his second professional fight. Let's see Joshua or Fury do the same in MMA. They won't cause they are too scared to take that risk.
Thats no example. This is a one trick sport.
There’s no incentive for them to fight in MMA, when they can make far more money in boxing. The fight proved that Francis is a mere mortal, and isn’t the fighting-god that Joe Rogan painted him out to be.
@@brucewayne9699it proved nothing man, its obvious he is gonna lose in boxing contest, he is a fighter, full fighter, mma, not a boxer, it was expected
Just goes to show Joe Rogan is a complete tool who does not like nor promote boxing and is clearly biased towards MMA, AJ proved him wrong in devastating fashion….
Bottom line is, Ngannou had never been hit that hard before,...by anyone.
Not hard considering a 16 gloves is way heavier than normal fist. Also I think without gloves the boxer would break his hand right away.
@@colorfulbleeding You do talk absolute rubbish. Are you claiming that it's the 16 oz gloves that make Joshua hit so hard? The bigger gloves cushion the impact of a blow.
@@thewatchman6074 it is basic entropy. Yes gloves play a big role, look at bare knuckles boxing, they don t have big gloves and so they won t shake the brain like big impact gloves would do.
@@colorfulbleeding The bottom line is, no one in MMA has ever hit Ngannou with the same force that Joshua did. That's why he was out cold. Must be those fragile putty fists of Joshua's eh?
@@thewatchman6074 I think he got kicked way stronger than a fist could ever do. It is interesting debate tho because without the big boxing gloves it s super hard to parry a punch that s why MMA fighter never really bang a lot and when they do bang those little gloves put way less impact on the brain. So it is true he probably never received an impact like that in MMA thanks to the gloves.
I can literally hear Brendan filpfloping as we speak
Flipflopping is normal, it means that you have learned something.
RIP francis
His boxing career that is
@@wonder777warrior6ngannou is clown
Boxing's position as the top combat sport appears to irk Rogan. With a history that traces back to the inaugural Olympics, boxing's legacy is unmatched. On Friday, AJ underscored this point, giving Francis a humbling demonstration of skill and discipline. Francis found himself overwhelmed, taking hits from AJ that skilled boxers typically evade. This was a pure exhibition of brute force.
This isn't akin to someone striking a power cube and then claiming to be the hardest hitter on the globe.
This proves that it wasn't so much Ngannou that was great against Fury but rather Fury being lousy vs Ngannou,when you have a boxer who's still in it and doesn't in his heart want to retire like Fury,the MMA guy gets his ass kicked.
Francis is calling from the shadow realm.
Francis: "Where am I?"
Man needed oxygen 😂😂😂😂
Shut up u fool
@@AlainNg188 😂😂😂... Sorry child
@@AlainNg188been hit with elbows knees but got comatosed from 10 ounce gloves 😂😂
The fight was in the hot desert.
@@hamzahdomeih7750 imagine if it was u that got hit like that 😂 you wouldn't live to tell the tale 😭
In one of his recent analysis videos, Mighty Mouse said that he would favour Joshua to beat Ngannou in MMA. Give Usyk 6 months of MMA training and he'll probably beat most UFC light heavyweights. There is a handful of elite boxers who could do really well with minimal training. Bud Crawford would obviously do very well as he is an excellent wrestler as well.
AJ saved boxing reputation, that was a proper fucking boxing match where men actually lay there hearts and warrior will into each other wasn't no hop scotch bullshit it was bear 🐻 boxing
MMA vs Boxing, two completely different sports with different rules and I don't understand why there is constant talk about who would win in a real fight? None of the professionals will fight each other in a street fight. A really absurd story and completely unnecessary emphasis.
“Bro, I’d kill you in a street fight” is constantly thrown around like it means something
Very true, its almost never a pro would fight outside the cage. Think people just live in the world of ego where they always have to prove something
@@GradeAmonster that's cap
not that much difference. both are fighting but MMA is all around while boxing is more specialised.
@@oblivion5390you really are dumb.
Somewhere, Wilder is still saying
“TIL THIS DAY”
What is he doing now??
@@wonder777warrior6 Twerking
I don’t think Fury took his fight with Nogo seriously,, Fury has a helluva chin,, he’s with stood wilders best punches 3 times ,, also Nogos best ,, he’s about the only to do it
Everyone - ngannou head, chin and neck are massive and can’t be stopped
Aj right hand - hold my beer 🍺
joe knows shit about boxe, boxing is the most advanced and complicated art between all fighting arts
He knows far more than you. He wasn't talking about a boxing match, he was talking about an actual fight
no mate, he was saying that mma is far more complicated than boxing due to the many techniques involved... but you are no better fighter than a good boxer if you practice everything being good on nothing.@@jeffc9089
in real fight aj is no one
@@herlenicecolddepends who he is fighting. Pretty sure he'd fuck you up
@@herlenicecoldlol Ngannou couldn’t get within 5 ft of AJ without getting lit up
MMA is not a real fight, I has rules. A real fight doesn't have any rules, somebody could use a gun etc Boxing is an art form, a skill and should beat an MMA guy every day of the week. It's not up to a boxer to take part in a lessor sport.
Ufc would beat boxer in real fight
@@Faladin85 Randy couture Humiliated boxing world champ .
Dude, Joe is salty over the result. Francis prepared for his boxing transition for 4 years before entering the boxing ring. Fury didnt prepare at all for the fight and came in crazy out of shape on fight night. After francis did better than people thought, Joshua properly prepared and disposed of him. Francis didnt get old over night, it was a fluke, and if he rematched fury and fury took him seriously, im sure the result would be similar. maybe not the same as AJ because Fury doesnt have that type of power, but i bet he would soundly beat Francis in the rematch.
Lets not forget mma has rules is nothing like a real fight...
That’s like saying navy seals training doesn’t have guys actually shooting each other, it’s nothing like a real gunfight. Yeah but they’d still fuck up any civilian in a gunfight. You’re going to eye gouge? Oh cool the Bjj black belt with a million ways to choke and break your joints can too genius
Ngannou never stopped after knocking out his MMA opponents cold... just imagine if after that KO, Joshua hit Francis's unconscious head on the ground 2 or 3 more times with full power? That's what Ngannou ALWAYS did, without any need for it... Karma. Thank you Joshua
Yeah, aj should have done It 😁
@@m.s.9816 He would have been disqualified, boxing is a decent noble sport.
Yeah I was half expecting him to do that then I remembered this is boxing where they aren't allowed to do crazy sh-t like that, surprised no one has died in the UFC from that yet
Thankfully “Snuff” fights are still not a thing, even in the Middle East!
Fucking casual not understanding the difference between boxing rules and mma rules
How did bro change the thumbnail that fast 😭
He got that shit ready just in case😭
I love how short the collective memory of armchair fighters is
AJ was so comfortable after the first round he even threw basic boxing out the window and got the knockout with a lead right hand. Joshua never even bothered throwing a jab before that right hand bomb.
AJ would knock him out regardless. He didn't have time to blink and he was out.
Joe Rogan is notorious for talking out his ass
Fury basically took Ngannou lightly and the fight too close to the Usyk date. When he realised it wasn't going to be a walk over he had to go into damage-limitation mode so as not to get hurt and lose the Usyk date (and how well did that work!?). Had he not had that worry, he might have mixed it more. Joshua wasn't so arrogant and was able to do the job.
Jon Jones? Yes.
Francis who only relies on stand up? No.
And they though Ngannou had a chance against Usyk
He'd have a better chance against Usyk than Joshua
@@WeanerBeaner69LOL! Usyk embarrasses him worse. Usyk is the best heavyweight in the world. Sit this one out casual.
@@milkman4evayou’re simply not right. He wouldn’t be able to knock Ngannou out. Ngannou can be reckless, and impose his size and strength on Usyk. I’m not saying Ngannou would hit Usyk clean, or win the match… but he wouldn’t be in danger of getting knocked out like he was with Joshua. He can most likely take Usyk the distance, even if he does get embarrassed.
@@milkman4eva omg styles make fights you Usyk sycophant
@@WeanerBeaner69 styles dont make fight if the skill gap is too damn high
To all the people who picked ngannou stfu 😂😂😂
That was embarrassing.
Lmao
The disrespect to AJ is topnotch. Ngannou was picked as favorite going by the votes. Quite shameful
@@Chisom28 so true
After that Fury fluke against a fresh off the couch Fury, I guess most people forgot that this is boxing, not MMA. And Francis clearly let that shit go to his head. He was so damn reckless.
How many hours podcasting after the fight and Joe still hasn’t managed to mention it. Funny that, he was explaining Ngannou to anyone who’d listen before!
NICE Dolphin's didn't know you could still find those😂😂
These UFC cheerleaders really are a bunch of clowns lmao
You can’t fight stfu